Ontario can decide elections, we all know that. Well an interesting thought about what Ford’s win means for Trudeau’s carbon tax plans. Ford says will take Ontario out of cap and trade. Trudeau says he will force it on the province.
It is one thing to push around Saskatchewan and lose one Liberal MP. But does Trudeau want to have 80 Liberals campaigning for re-election next summer on making life more expensive?
Wait till great grandstanding retaliatory tariffs on many US products will hit Canadian consumer.
Unfortunately Ford will probably be scapegoated and demonized by the time a federal election comes ’round, even if he does a good job (not a given). That will favor the Liberals.
Further point: the carbon tax is sucking up too much oxygen (IT’S FUNNY BECAUSE CHEMISTRY). A much much bigger attack on inflated cost of living would be to open up greenbelts to development and generally relax zoning laws. Ford actually stumbled on the first idea and then walked it back like a dunce during the campaign.
Did the noose the Liberals have for all the rest of us get put on their own necks?
Ontario has the highest electricity prices in North America (or close to it). Cape and Trade sends billions to … California.
Nice to see Ontario subsidizing solar panels in California.
Auditor General Bonnie Lysyk predicted Ontario would reduce its emissions by only 20 per cent of its 2020 target, with the other 80 per cent being reduced in California and Quebec, which have been holding joint cap-and-trade auctions since 2014.
She said businesses in the province would be more likely to buy allowances rather than pay for the more expensive equipment needed to actually reduce their emissions.
“Ontario businesses will pay approximately $466 million for Quebec and California allowances by the end of 2020, money that will leave the Ontario economy,” she said. “This could rise to $2.2 billion in 2030.”
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/06/13/quebec-calls-on-doug-ford-to-reverse-plan-to-scrap-cap-and-trade-program.html
Quebec has called on Doug Ford to NOT scrap cap ‘n trade. It will cost Quebec money,and will cause the oceans to start rising again.
The attacks on Ford are about to get as ridiculous as those on Trump, maybe even worse as he’s right here in Universe Central not in far off Warshington.
if I could draw editorial cartoons I would depict ‘cap and trade’ as some snot nosed grade schooler with a propeller hat trading his oh so valuable sports cards . . . . .
perhaps a junior version of ms wynnedfarm or dolt mcguilty or better yet TURDoo v. 2.0.
what are the financial forensics on how much ‘cap and trade’ actually reduces the hated CO2 as opposed to mere currency transfers?
I still wanna know if kahdr’s 10.5 million is going to come back to canadastan in the form of a suicide vest and blow the go&^*&^$#&mn twerp to smithereens. now THERE would be some really nice ‘dot connecting’.
I ‘m laughing at all the liberal types who are frantically crowing about what the SCC might do. That might make them feel good, but even justin is smart enough to know it wld be a Pyrrhic victory.
Until Canadians get tired of paying more than what they should and of power centralised in the hands of incompetent thieves in Ottawa, this tax and others like it will be foisted upon willing Canadians.
If there is anything Ford is able to do to stop this, he had better act now.
PM Aldulterer and No Time McKenna can both eat corn infested feces. “We love the middle class” Crap that the Lieberals spew is pure liquid feces. Ford needs to just keep it simple and those two half-witted social justice twats will bury themselves.
McKenna, aka Climate Barbie and Justin, aka Shiny Pony would make a good team for slap stick comedy, neither of them are in the realm of reality.
And if they were joined by Climate Andy Scheer, who bears a startling resemblance to Harpo Marx, they could have their own vaudeville act!
Only problem is none of them have the talent to play Groucho or Chico.
They’d be a hit on CBC!
All that matters is the over represented criminal province of Quebec.
If Trudeau won every seat in Quebec, and had no other seats in the country, Liberals would consider that a victory. CBC would declare that a victory. The governor general would declare Trudeau PM for a second term. The Globe and Mail would urge us to accept it for national unity. Ditto National Post. Ditto Global. Ditto CTV. Ditto BBC. Ditto Australian BC. Ditto CNN. …
If the #Libranos took all the Quebec seats, we’d be the racists. I think the unattractive governor general would say so too.
Exactly!!
Trudeau, Butts, and their media pom pom shakers miss the point:
The Federal Liberals will bear the entire political hit from reimposing and administering a carbon tax. A quagmire awaits Justin in Ontario, Saskatchewan, and probably Alberta.
Grab the popcorn …
When I listened to former Prime minister Stephen Harper said Andrew Scheer would win the next election on the carbon tax alone. I am doubtful . I think liberas plan to award credit for our impending economic problems , capital fleeing the country and trade wars at the feet of Donald Trump . There is a large majority of Canadians with a negative view of Trump and the Liberals are very good at playing the politics of division .
“But does Trudeau want to have 80 Liberals campaigning for re-election next summer on making life more expensive?”
Nicely put.
Guvamint speak: “federal price on pollution”
Formerly “price on carbon” evil twin brother of “carbon tax”.
So, exactly what is the price on pollution?
https://www.nationalobserver.com/2018/06/13/opinion/carbon-pricing-important-tool-tackle-climate-change?utm_source=National+Observer&utm_campaign=8e25599470-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_06_15_01_05&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_cacd0f141f-8e25599470-254385805
The esteemed Dr.Suzuki, the most trusted man in Canada circa about 2010, says we must tax carbon heavily to save the planet.
Dr. Dave gets an exemption as he is busy saving the planet and can’t be bound by the rules for little people.
Dr Dave’s green friends opposed all the hydro dams in the country.
Meanwhile BC’s coal exports are increasing. And not all is “metallurgical coal”. In 2008, only 4.4 million tonnes of Vancouver’s coal exports could be called non-metallurgical. By 2017, this had more than doubled to 11.3 million tonnes.
But hey, I guess this coal is clean, its green, its BC eco-coal.
Don’t read of protesters stopping coal exports in Vancouver. Maybe we should rename Dr Dave… how about Dirty Coal Dave?
Carbon s an alement of the Periodic Table! Death to Carbon!
I just wish Toronto would burn to the ground or be hit by an asteroid.
yep james, that way we’d git rid of Nutley and the BC freeks….wait, what , no we wouldn’t
So Trulander and Climate Barbie are going to campaign on higher gas prices, higher electricity prices, and higher dairy prices for consumers.
Cool!
The only way juthtins carbon tax plan was supposed to work was that he had willing partners at the provincial level.
If he imposes this tax on one province but not on others the court would be in position to rule against the federal government.
Even if the court does agree, unless he has a willing co conspirator at the provincial level the federal government is left to collect it through tax remission or through a VAT. Either option leaves the federal government absorbing all administrative costs and to make it worse, they by their own admission have pledged that the funds are to be returned to the provinces and not used by the federal government.
And it gets better.
As the federal government would be the one collecting they get to be the target of outrage.
Harper is correct.
One could win an election on a campaigning against a carbon tax, he actually did in 2011 and won.
The Feds will impose a carbon tax and all the money will go to … … … Quebec!
The existing federal expenditures to each other province will be relabelled Carbon tax funded.
meanwhile Ford can reduce the Ontario provincial gas tax of approx. 24 cents/litre gas tax to zero, then impose a 14 cents a litre carbon tax. and voila – gas is 10 cents cheaper, and there is effectively no carbon tax, but there is a carbon tax.
Also forgot to mention.
If this goes to court it would put AGW on trial as the federal government would have to demonstrate the need.
And it isn’t like the data has ever been manipulated has it.
And the plaintiff could demand all data including the cost of the tax (those costs the liberals are hiding) to be submitted as evidence as well.
At that point it wouldn’t matter if the federal government won the case.
AGW would be shown in a court of law as nothing more than socialism by stealth.
Have you ever wondered who was running Germany just before Hitler got elected? I mean, how bad did the government have to get in order for people to say “well, Hitler couldn’t be any worse, so I’m voting for Hitler”. Kathleen Wynne bad? Justin Trudeau bad? Or mayor of Londistan hopeless?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5853179/Less-one-20-street-robberies-burglaries-solved-police-new-figures-reveal.html
I hope that Ford holds onto his balls because the world is against people like him. Not literally holds onto them, but keeps them intact. For at least 8 years.
Wait until the Liberals and NDP impose a $5000/year gas guzzler tax on SUVs and pick-up trucks. In the name of climate science! ha, ha, ha
Alberta – if Notley is re-elected its coming.
Had to laugh, TV scroll news, “Notley says Kenny hopes pipeline fails..”.
Probably CBC as I flicked past it.
I had to laugh at the desperate posturing by Notley, the pipeline is already problematic,what Kenny thinks is almost irrelevant.
Notley and Our national dummies dug this hole.They with their conflicted state of minds,total lack of practical skills and constant spin, cannot organize a drunken party in a brewery..but they are gonna build a 5-6 billion dollar pipeline in the face of opposition from the section of our society who actually vote for them.
Gang Green is not just a flesh putrifying disease.
So. The cpc , the “big tent” party. By my count, social conservatives not welcome. Libertarians not welcome. Who else is out? Can Scheer gather enough support to beat Kim Campbell?
So JT will force ontario to adopt a CT – which is not within the feds powers yet he won’t force through the KM pipeline even though he has the powers AND the obligation to do so.
“So JT will force ontario to adopt a CT – which is not within the feds powers yet”
The only way he can force a CT on Ontario is by imposing one on all of Canada: Federal taxation can only be levied on Canadians uniformly. That is, no Federal CT can be imposed on Canadians in one province alone.*
* However, the fly in the ointment here is our useless Supreme Court which is wholly untrustworthy in terms of impartiality. Still, even they would have to consider the constitutional ramifications of a Federal government choosing to discriminate against Canadians by taxing them according to their province of residence.
Expect a snap “Free-trade” election call by the Lberals; they have already coralled the opposition parties, so off they will go.
It could happen but there is a big risk.
Jim Prentice went to the polls early and the voters rejected him totally.
Will someone pull a Patrick Brown on Scheer and open the door for a real leader? Something needs to be done and soon.
If BC NDP-Green handshake fails before 2019, then hell yah JT’s going to the mattresses. Err, election.
Doug Ford will be bongo’s whipping boy.
The libranos like a conservative to pummel at election time.
Ford won’t be cowed by the librano Nancy boy.
{quote}Discussion Leader. John Pahlisano, Enron
Monitoring, Auditing and Verification
Mr. Palmisano pointed out that CDM will require transparency, efficiency, and accountability through independent auditing and verification of project activities. This, in turn, requires clear, written guidelines so every auditor arrives at the same answer.
Monitoring and verification will be challenging but manageable tasks. Mark Trexler reminded the group that monitoring will never be perfect, even in the case of C02 coming out of a stack.{/quote}
Why not continue we one of Enron’s business plans? especially when it’s easy to cheat.