Looks a lot like it’s liquor distribution.
The Alberta government plans to control the online sale of legalized marijuana but will leave over-the-counter sales to private operators.
Justice Minister Kathleen Ganley introduced the rules in proposed legislation Thursday, but details on how sales would work have yet to be determined.
That is a bit interesting. Seems more enlighted to me than the Ontario plan which is that the government alone will control distribution and all the smaller operators are out of business. I am guessing that with private sales, opportunities for smaller growers would be more available. Also seems like a lot less cost to taxpayers. Oh well, Ontario seems keen to go in the wrong direction on just about everything.
Alberta passed the dope plan when they voted in the NDP
Excellent, more jobs for the rest of us!
The government may be able to legalize sales but they cant force companies to hire potheads that can’t pass a drug test. Especially in any high risk or safety orientated industrys. There should be plenty of openings when the bottom feeders think otherwise and give it a try.
“…and all the smaller operators are out of business …”
Somehow I don’t think all the smaller operators will be out of business. Just the kind that pay taxes.
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the wynne liberals will be creating thousands of new union (lcbo) jobs
to enable this government controlled monopoly. that’s thousands of
liberal votes for all you meritocracy based deplorables out west.
you think this was actually about efficiency & service?
it’s always a calculation for the socialists.
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“Just the kind that pay taxes”
Someone will need to continue supplying the kids who don’t have the parents and adult “friends” that will.
Now you’ll see a war on drugs.
Now the pot dealers will need to up their game to Opioids to subsidize their welfare checks.
So what are the fines like these days for tax evasion?
That’s what “independent operators” will be looking at. Is it less onerous than simple possession?
Note: I don’t care what the outcome is in the pot wars, only that when the Trudeau gov’t said they’d legalise this, the people that were already the industry players, they heard “legalise” as in, it’s ok to wear pink and red together. Offensive for certain, but not currently regulated like Ontario / Quebec have in the works…
I would be worried about government run pot stores. I remember what it was like in Edmonton when ALCB ran all the liquor stores. There were less than 2 dozen stores in all the city and probably about 6 or 7 that handled most of the volume. Those stores always had pan-handlers and other hucksters hanging around outside them. Wouldn’t government run pot stores attract the same thing plus the added convenience of giving drug dealers easy access to potential clientele?
I am pleasantly shocked at how not terrible this is. I mean, the government control of online sales is bad, but that’s a farce. People can still do that easily, even if it’s illegal. Ontario continues to out-terrible all others in all ways.
I don’t know anything about the retail dope system but I hear there is a vigorous trade on line. I doubt those boys are going to voluntarily shut down. They might even have some inter provincial customers.
A system designed by government is doomed to fail.
It’s “its” not “it’s”.
The stupid part is the won’t allow liquor stores to also sell pot. And pot stores can’t sell food or drinks. What if someone wants Doritos with their weed?
yup, the rez Indians don’t sell “illegal” cigarettes because you can buy them legally….say what, you know people who buy rez cigs???
Only those who live isolated lives think there will be much of a change!
The Ontario plan is a sop to the unions.
Feeling old tonight.
I remember when Bootlegging was a crime,drugs where bad,gambling was sinful and criminal and our comrades in Government endlessly moralized to the rest of us heathens about the damage we did society.
Har har,stinking hypocrites.
Number one inciter of gambling?
Government.
Number one drug pusher?
Government.
Number one booze seller?
Government.
And never mind the days when theft by government was a risky business.
Now it is do not steal,your government hates competition as our parasitic overlords debate the “risk” of allowing dumb citizens the right to keep any of their own money.
Course euthenasia is now wonderful too, kill the poor as they have nothing left to steal..currently just the old demented unhappy ones of course.
I am charmed by these parasites infighting over their share of the tax to be taken on pot sales.
I think that is the monkey wrench in all of this legalization business. I always thought pot was a good buffer between legal drugs and the really hard stuff. I was (am) pretty sure current dealers are not going to just abandon their illegal businesses. Things have just moved up a notch. Decriminalization would have been more sensible. I don’t even think that pot heads will like the government’s approach.
That is a bit dumb.
The Ontario approach seems designed to keep the black market in weed intact.
There will be no WCBO stores ready for July 2018.
There will be no weed to sell in WCBO stores by July 2018.
Legal weed will cost $10 a gram, at least, plus HST according to the papers. That’s some expensive weed.
Anybody who wants weed next July WILL be buying illegal black market weed, because there won’t be any legal stuff. No way, no hope, no chance.
Meanwhile the OPP is busting “dispensaries” all over the place, getting everybody ready for the new government monopoly.
If that doesn’t keep the black market in business, nothing will.
We don’t need a ‘buffer’ from hard drugs. There already is one: personal choice. They’re not like UV rays that can only be blocked by the ozone layer. Much like guns, you don’t have to use them.
Further, evidence suggests weed is an off-ramp from opoids: https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/can-marijuana-help-addicts-kick-opioids
This certainly is a long way from only wanting to stop kids from having a criminal record for simple possession.
On July 1 2018 I’ll be counting the days till the first “kid” is charged under the new definition of possession.
Then I will juxtapose that to the first raid on a reserve selling contraband weed…which could be a long long time coming.
So the stage is set for class action lawsuits 30 years down the road when the true effects of smoking pot are finally acknowledged (not that anyone isn’t aware now). This will follow exactly the same path as legal tobacco, being that who knew what when and how it was covered up to make profit. In this instance, not profit but tax.
The stupidity in legalisaing pot in amazing, but not surprising. Not just in legalising the drug and condemning many more to literally a mindless future, but doing so in an era when victims are heros and encouraged. This is going to cost the taxpayer billions down the road. But who gives a flying f$&k, right?
We still have people who drink alcohol and drive, can’t imagine what’s going to happen with pot added to the mix, some will do both. We have the so-called liquor control board, now we’ll be having pot control. The word “control” means nothing but taxes which the fed and provincials are fighting to get a slice.
Ontario has no effing clue how they are going to manage the mess and neither does the Trudeau cabal.
Much more evidence that marijuana is an on-ramp to hard drugs for new users.
“Only those who live isolated lives think there will be much of a change!”
Wow, I had almost given up on reading anything accurate about the subject. The biggest changes, if this proceeds properly, will be a safer supply and a little less money for gangs. Ooohh, that sounds so evil.
How smug some are that they still absolutely refuse to recognize alcohol as a drug. Since everyone who ever tokes is clearly a ‘pothead’, then it’s time for some consistency and I suggest anyone who ever enjoys an occasional drink is a ‘drunkard’. If you are too bigoted and uninformed to realize millions of hardworking, responsible adults already enjoy this plant, well, you probably hang around SDA all day long.
People whining and kvetching about weed while they gulp their beer and ignore the ABSOLUTELY DESTRUCTIVE EFFECTS of alcohol on our society. People who go on and on about personal freedoms, liberties and responsibilities…. unless they don’t agree with the personal choices those freedoms may lead to. People who have no problem with me legally holding a shotgun, but God forbid, not a plant. It is a level of denial and hypocrisy worthy of any skilled leftard.
Generally, for me, witnessing fellow conservatives discussing weed is just like watching fake news discussing Trump.
Short on facts, heavy on the ignorance and bigoted attacks.
bootleggers will have to take up the slack.
That’s so dope
– LindaL
Indeed, criminals do not stop becoming criminals because you legalized something. They move on to other illegal activity and will generally morph that activity in the direction that the profits are greatest, and naturally the riskiest.
UnMe has been full of sh*t on every topic on any thread he’s posted on SDA. If he was legitimate in what he posts then he is nothing more than and Anarchist playing a libertarian. EVERYTHING Unme has posted here is contrary to a healthy society and what he supports is always a means to an eventual collapse.
I’m not giving UnMe any intelligence credit, it’s simply parroted junk of the anarco-commies.
Frenchy…ya gotta look at the Govt’s mentality in this. They seem to think that every one of us that smokes a joint from time to time will instantly rush to buy their”legal” weed as they will likely use facial recognition and mandatory proffering of ID to buy. That my friend is laughable at best.
Govt will never EVER be able to compete…at least not in Ontario an Quebec. Ain’t ever gonna happen. Union employees – HST – plus a 10% Excise Tax by the Feds…?? hah, LMAO.! the street Dealers are salivating.. What “overhead do they have.?
But the bottom line is why was this made illegal in the first place…?? something YOU should maybe look into hmmm.? It was in fact to keep Blacks and Mexicans in line in the US. The Movie REFER MADNESS being a classic bit of stupidity in its attempt to demonize marijuana and its users and in the end justify classifying Marijuana as a Class A(1) Narcotic.
So. To me this whole legalizing pot thing is not about Trudeau being the good 21st Century millennial loving guy…its all about CONTROL imo…..lots of it….and REGULATIONS….lots of them – such that the real war on marijuana has only just begun.
Witness the Shrieking of MADD and numerous Police Groups … one wonders where the hell they’ve been the last 60 years…right?
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Stop lying. There’s no evidence that MJ is a gateway drug. That’s just an idiotic drug warrior meme.
“The stupidity in legalisaing pot in amazing, but not surprising. Not just in legalising the drug and condemning many more to literally a mindless future,”
Your fear-mongering doesn’t work anymore grandpa. No one’s listening. If you don’t like drugs, don’t do them.
“The stupidity in legalisaing pot in amazing, but not surprising. Not just in legalising the drug and condemning many more to literally a mindless future,”
“No one’s listening” – Unme
LOL, you just don’t see your own idiocy. And yes there are plenty of rational thinking people listening, even to you, which is the best advocacy against drugs that can be hoped for. Please keep talking đŸ™‚
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“unme shrieks… That’s just an idiotic drug warrior meme.”
unme, unme… aren’t you the guy who made a spirited defense
of maisum ansari… who was busted with illegal guns and 42
keys of carfentanil?
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