No Debate Allowed

The Libranos 18 Comments

Now we know why the Liberals are killing debate on The Bill to finally break the middle class and call everyone who doesn’t work for the government or large corporations, thieves.
If gov’t talks about it, Canadians will learn more about it and get upset.

“The longer we’re talking about this, the more people are concerned that they will be impacted, which is really raising a fear and not allowing people to be as productive as possible.”

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18 Replies to “No Debate Allowed”

  1. It always happens this way. The Liberal government of Trudeau Sr. got its brains blown out in 1984 on tax scandals of CRA, and Little Potato Chip and his sidekick millionaire banker Finance Minister are about to do the same kind of thing all over again, this time putting the boots to the self employed.
    It’s worth remembering that the French Revolution only became a deadly danger to l’Ancien Regime in 1789 with the outrage of le Petit Bourgeoisie. Guillotines and tumbrels followed soon after.

  2. I won’t be a happy small business owner if they give doctors a special break on their taxes instead of a raise and leave the rest of us with nothing.

  3. I know one (unintended?) consequence of this: There’s gonna be a hell of a lot more “gray market” business going on.

  4. My wife received this post to her faceybook page,from a person called Jeremy Makila. I have been unable to verify if the claims he makes are true or anti-Liberal bullshit.
    If there is any truth to this,it is a Watergate sized scandal. Anyone here have any idea about this?
    “Found this post, is haven’t vetted the source yet, But someone has done some serious digging and has come up with the real reason for”tax reform”. Props to John Gormley of CJME 620 Regina, as I swiped this comment from his thread earlier today:
    John Gormley are you aware of this?
    It’s becoming clear that some very wealthy Canadian shareholders tied to Finance Minister Bill Morneau are positioned to benefit handsomely from the proposed federal tax changes for incorporated small businesses and professionals. As Canadians, we should be paying very close attention.
    Just yesterday my husband and I learned about pension-type savings options for small business owners called Retirement Compensation Arrangements (RCAs) and Individual Pension Plans (IPPs, geared more towards business owners in their 50s).
    These retirement savings plans/products were suggested to us as potential next steps if the proposed federal tax legislation affecting small business goes through. (For context, given our incorporated structure, if the legislation is passed, any income we draw when we retire will have been taxed at a rate of 73%. Clearly, this doesn’t seem like a fair deal for a lifetime’s worth of work, so we—like every other incorporated small business owner out there—are working hard to understand what our options are.)
    Today, from an All Nova Scotia article (Sept 19), we learned that the largest provider of these pension plans in Canada is none other than Morneau Shepell.
    That’s right, Morneau Shepell—the multinational benefits/pensions consulting firm founded by Federal Finance Minister Bill Morneau’s dad, William Frank Morneau, Sr. in 1966, with annual revenue in 2016 totalling $592 million Cdn. It’s the largest benefits and pension firm in Canada.
    Today, William Frank Morneau is listed as honourary chair and founder of Morneau Shepell on the company’s website. And Bill Morneau, according to the All Nova Scotia article, “…controls over 2.2 million Morneau Shepell shares worth over $47 million based on the closing stock price on Monday.”
    If the federal government brings in their proposed tax changes, led by Justin Trudeau and Finance Minister Bill Morneau, incorporated small businesses across Canada will be forced to close their holdings companies and opt instead for other retirement savings strategies… like the private pension plans offered by Morneau Shepell.
    So who really stands to benefit from the legislation that’s being positioned as changes to make the tax system fairer?
    That’s right: Bill Morneau, major shareholder in Canada’s largest pension corporation. Bill Morneau, Canada’s Federal Finance Minister. Bill Morneau, the guy who keeps saying he’s closing “loopholes” and “fancy accounting schemes” that give wealthy Canadians unfair advantages over the middle class (…you know, those greedy farmers and doctors and local business owners and such).
    While doctors are making calls to healthcare organizations offering jobs south of the border, and small business owners nearing retirement are looking at having to work for several more years, and family farms and businesses passed on through generations face being penalized for passing them down to their kids (and rewarded for selling them to anyone other than their kids), and young couples who’ve put everything on the line to start their dream business come to terms with the fact that the rug has been pulled out from under them, Morneau Shepell directors and shareholders must be rubbing their hands together in eager anticipation of the windfall to come their way.
    If there’s a “fancy accounting scheme” that deserves the government’s full attention right now, including a thorough Conflict of Interest investigation, I think it’s staring them right in the face.”
    September 24 at 8:48am”

  5. I see the CORPSE closed comments on that story right away, too many neg comments about that airhead Chagger.
    I want to say is there anyone more useless and unqualified than Chagger, but then, PM Dummy leads by example!

  7. If this is true and people STILL allow this bill to go through without at least ONE riot, then Canadians deserve back-breaking poverty.
    Morneau and Trudeau deserve to be horse-whipped.

  9. Unfortunately my bomb emoji invoking the anger emotion doesn’t show up on SDA’s site.
    Thanks dmorris

  10. Breaking the back of the “middle class and those working hard to join the middle class”… what did people expect the millionaire globalist cabal they elected would do? Lets hope Trudopians wake from their coma, but I doubt it… Socks!

  11. Well even though Canada is (slipping) back (5th to 11th in economic freedom) …
    https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/economic-freedom-of-the-world-2017-annual-report
    At least we had a middle class cut, I mean tax cut. No wait a minute, not really? No sh** Sherlock:
    “Middle-class families in Canada are paying higher income taxes compared to a few years ago, despite claims by Ottawa that it has eased the tax burden on this income group, according to a new report.”
    Vancouver-based think-tank the Fraser Institute said in a report Tuesday that 60 per cent of the 3.88 million families included in its study are paying higher income taxes under the current government. Of those included in the middle-income bracket, 81 per cent are paying higher total income taxes after the changes, an average of $840 more per year.”
    I know, the Fraser Institute and their rigorous research is so extreme right wing.
    I can understand the ignorance of the young, but remain frustrated at numbskull boomers who thought Trudeau was some kind of populist rather than the puppet elitist he is, and sentenced us along with them to his incompetent arrogance, with another term already media pronounced.
    http://business.financialpost.com/personal-finance/liberal-changes-have-only-led-to-higher-taxes-for-the-middle-class-despite-claims-otherwise-report

  12. “If this is true and people STILL allow this bill to go through without at least ONE riot, then Canadians deserve back-breaking poverty.”
    Well, the people that elected this shit-show deserve back-breaking poverty. The people that didn’t do not.
    Imagine, if you will, Albertans rioting. Big yawn from Ontarians/Quebecers/Maritimers.

  13. Canadians won’t riot, protest or anything else. They have never seen a screwing that they would not participate in. If and when the liberals get turfed I can guarantee that the conservatives will not change a damn thing.

  14. A Sunday morning? That won’t get much attention. They need to go and sit down on the Don Valley Parkway during Monday morning traffic. Then threaten to plug 401 a week later. And then do the same in Ottawa.

  17. That day will never come.Quebec is special, every politician from that Province is Quebecois first and Canadian last, and that includes liberals in conservative clothing like Brian Mulroney and his ilk.
    The corporate power elite has a sufficient Quebec base
    to ensure the equalization payments never stop.
    We in the West live to serve our Eastern masters,they are the aristocracy,we are the peasants. Until the day we finally smarten up and separate it will remain the same.Only trouble is we will never be angry enough to break away.

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