Permission, He Says

25 Replies to “Permission, He Says”

1. Debating abortion is like debating religion.

2. That’s aka an “own goal”.

3. killing an unborn child in the womb should not require debate.

4. the dollars of Indiana taxpayers at work.

5. You missed a few.
   “Debating abortion is like debating religion.”
   or slavery
   or incest
   or racism
   or supremacy
   Anything that should be opposed on moral grounds is like religion. Because religion guides our morality. And there’s a reason amoral is usually an insult.

6. I’m struck by the sheer incompetence of a professor at Purdue. Not shocked, as I’ve seen this kind of thing before. But really, he seems to have no idea whatsoever about the concepts he’s using in the argument. It is as if everything is the same as everything else to him. The crime of “child pornography” is worse than the crime of murder? So it seems.
   It seems to me that the Lefties, for so long ascendant and comfycozy in the Ivory Tower and the halls of power, are getting tetchy at having the rug pulled out from under them. These days no “argument” is necessary in their minds. All they need to to is pick a target, scream FASCIST!!! and start swinging.
   I welcome this new openness on the Left.

7. However, I am more than willing to “debate” whether that nearly-naturally-born lump of biological matter is actually a “child”. Whether that “lump of tissue” is actually “child” … a “person”.
   The science is settled. A foetus is a living organism … a child yet to emerge from gestation.
   The “debate” is just a matter of convenience for the murderer. It is most convenient to dispose of the child. That’s all … an exchange of death … for convenience. If the morality of that is OK with you, then the debate is over. You’re a self-centered ghoul, willing to put an innocent to death for your own convenience. The science of your mental illness is settled … you’re a sociopath. There is no debate.

8. Exactly, as was old white guys’ comment.
   Why is it that the the left loves mountains of skulls and mass graves?

9. “Debating abortion is like debating religion.”
   I can see a Libtard making a statement like that. There should be no debate at all unless one believes that human lives don’t matter. The fact is that Canada has the worst form of the death penalty – the execution of innocent souls without trial. The abortion industry. For the entire nine months. We can be evil too. It isn’t the exclusive realm of terrorists. We hypocritically ignore the same brutality our immoral governments inflict on unborn children. The biggest bullies of all.

10. The permission of the foetus.
    Oh?
    Do tell me…who obtained the permission of the foetus to KILL it?
    BTW debating abortion is NOTHING AT ALL like debating religion. There is no debate, unless you believe that killing another human, whose only offense is their existence inconveniences you, is somehow OK. Leave those fiendish sophistries to the left please.

11. The mental gymnastics pro-abortionists do would be hilarious if they weren’t so tragic.
    If the unborn baby is not human, how does he have a butt this professor can fixate on?

12. So many jumping to unfounded conclusions to prove my point.
    The ones making the usual ad hominem attacks are quite silly.
    Ah yes, taking the moral high ground of personally vilifying anyone who doesn’t accept your religion. Some would see that as hypocrisy.

13. Liberal idiocy at work.

14. I’m a Conservative and vote Conservative so take your unfounded opinions and shove them up Uranus.
    No debate on abortion, eh? That sounds familiar, where have I heard that muzzling debate attitude before? Oh right: no debate on islamophobia, no debate on sharia law, no debate on global warming or climate change – the science is settled.
    Such barbaric attitudes have no place in a free and just society where everything is open to debate. It’s guaranteed in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
    Take your barbaric attitudes and go live in a muslime country where debate on selected issues is persecuted.
    This is Canada, GFY.
    For the record, I have NO personal opinion on abortion. That is the responsibility of someone who is pregnant, I have no business telling some woman what to do with their body.

15. It just sounds like you would rather not talk about it but were then moved to give blustery bit of sanctimony about this matter.
    Enough, already.
    The gist of this thread was the logical goalposts regarding this issue. One can see they’re self-duplicating.

16. Someone sounds like a “pompous ass”. My personal as-sessment.

17. “… I have no business telling some woman what to do with their body.”
    Nor do I. But if I have any obligation to prevent her killing you if you are inconvenient to her, it seems I have at least as much of an obligation to to prevent her killing an unborn person who is inconvenient to her.

18. Exactly what I was thinking – pompous ass it is.
    “For the record, I have NO personal opinion on abortion. That is the responsibility of someone who is pregnant, I have no business telling some woman what to do with their body.”
    Hogwash for someone to claim no personal opinion and in the same paragraph give an opinion in favor of abortion. In Canada that is a full 9 months.
    Since you are in favor of debates we should have a debate as to whether you are a Libtard or Conservative and your opinion does not count. To start it off I say your opinions are that of a Libtard.
    My number 1 rule I try and follow: Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

19. I’m voting in the Conservative leadership race, are you? You don’t get to decide who is Conservative or not, like you said your opinion does not count.
    Don’t steal quotes without giving credit, only idiots do that.
    ‘Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.’ George Carlin

20. Now grasp this: You are not a person, you are nothing more than words on a computer screen. I walk away from the screen and you cease to exist. Your personal opinion of me or anyone else contributing to a discussion is inconsequential. If you want to discuss ideas, concepts and events great, if you want to discuss people and your opinion of them, then you’re wasting your time, I couldn’t care less. Got it now?

21. Anytime someone says ‘it’s not my decision or responsibility, it’s up to the pregnant woman’, he/she is saying in effect ‘if you are going to kill someone in your family, that is up to you, it’s not my decision or responsibility’ . If the fetus is actually human and alive, which we all know is fact, then to purposely dismember and remove said fetus is murder. Deep down, everyone knows this. The scary thing is not the people that deny this fact, but the people that openly admit it, and are ok with it.
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22. ‘if you are going to kill someone in your family, that is up to you, it’s not my decision or responsibility’
    Exactly. That’s how it is. Or I would remember if it was any other way.
    It’s not very nice, I think, but it’s moot to discuss this fact of human behaviour or to get enraged about it.

23. back when I knew everything in high school, my pro-choice attitude changed 180 degrees permanently when I found out how early the unborn grow fingers, toes, heart beat, thumb sucking, etc etc.
    I vehemently oppose abortion and vehemently oppose the pro-lifers who choose to be murderous hypocrites targeting abortion clinic staff.
    the debate will never end. feminazis find out their views work diametrically *against* them when technology (ultrasound) gives chauvinists in 3rd world proof they need to abort the female offspring.

24. It’s late May,1971.A pretty young woman approaches her much older husband,” I’m pregnant”.
    He replies,”get an abortion.I don’t want a child right now,it might negatively affect my career”.
    She is adamant that she will keep the baby,and he finally relents,”alright,you can keep the baby”.
    “Good”,she says,”if it’s a boy,I’m going to name him Justin”.
    “Whatever you want,Margaret”.
    The Lord works in mysterious ways.

25. The dead foetus is an inert object – a thing like any other, whatever its (sad) history. Showing a dead foetus is like showing human ashes, or for that matter the corpse of an adult. No human rights are involved.