This will be interesting.

If you report to Parliament people might hear about some of the issues facing our soldiers.
That’s a problem because it makes it much more difficult to bury the bad news.

But Walbourne went so far as to suggest Sajjan is part of the problem.
He said the defence minister’s “nebulous” response to two recent ombudsman’s reports is emblematic of his overall approach to the office.
Over the past six months, Walbourne has called for better support for cadets who are hurt in uniform, and for the military to keep injured personnel in the fold until their veterans’ benefits are lined up.

Via, NewsHubNation

12 Replies to “This will be interesting.”

  1. It really is amazing how stupid people can be.
    Like the saying, if you want to get a mosquito off your forehead, don’t use a shotgun.

  2. The Liberals pander to special interest groups during elections but govern by ignoring them. The Conservatives simply have to learn how to lie at election time. I wonder how the Indians on reserves enjoy all their problems being solved by the Liberals? I bet they’re pissed.
    Just get rid of the military ombudsman. Army veterans never stop their pathetic whining. A Canadian military study found out that going to war was no more likely to make you go crazy than peacetime service and peacetime service was no more likely to make you go crazy than non-military service. Young men kill themselves a lot – get over it.
    Maybe PTSD is real. Accountants medicate a lot with booze and suffer stress disorders as does everyone out their with a responsible job. Even production workers drink booze, smoke dope, and beat their families. The military isn’t any different but the crybabies never stop.

  3. Suicide rates:
    Canadian military 2015 18/68,000 equals 1 per 3,800
    Canadian males 20 to 40 – 21/100,000 equals 1 per 4,760
    Not a whole lot higher than average.
    Nunavut males 114/100,000 equals 1 per 877 Nunavut has an obvious cultural problem.

  4. Scar, veteran suicides for released members are included in the civilian rate, and even so, reports have acknowledged there has been an uptick in military suicides in the past five years. It takes a long time to manifest as problems, so no I don’t think military suicides are a matter of civilianized crybabies.
    When forces members are on deployment, even peacetime, they see things, particularly the mistreatment of children, which haunts their psyche for years.
    Many of the most desperate have long since become civilians and aren’t getting the help they need from DVA. This is a particular problem.
    So no I’m not willing to sweep this under a statistical rug as you seem to be. Your comments seem callous to me.
    Here’s some elucidation if you’re interested.
    http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/about-reports-pubs-health/report-on-suicide-mortality-caf-2016.page

  5. Glen Gieschen gets 4 years for firearms, explosive charges
    Calgary man, who planned attack on Veteran Affairs office, gets credit for time served
    A former soldier who was planning to attack a Veterans Affairs office has been sentenced to four years in prison.
    Glen Gieschen, 45, is getting 18 months of credit for time served in custody.
    Calgary skyscraper attack plotter contacted Veterans Affairs for help
    He pleaded guilty in November to possession of a firearm, possession of a prohibited weapon and possession of a weapon.
    Judge Sean Dunnigan said Gieschen’s crimes were “chilling in their intricate planning.”
    But the judge also said he believed Gieschen’s expressions of remorse.
    During Gieschen’s arrest in January 2014, police recovered firearms, body armour, possible bomb-making materials, schematics of a downtown Calgary skyscraper and a plan to attack the seventh-floor federal offices.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/glen-gieschen-gets-4-years-for-firearms-explosive-charges-1.2970194
    Should returning veterans be profiled for potential risk of terrorism?
    Timothy McVeigh could not be reached for comment.

  6. “no I don’t think military suicides are a matter of civilianized crybabies.”
    Nor do I. I’ve never seen more crocodile tears than from veterans. My issue is that suicide is a general concern but people pay considerably more attention to veterans than non-veterans despite only a slim statistical edge.
    “veteran suicides for released members are included in the civilian rate”
    With recent war veterans being maybe 1/10 of 1 % the stats are not meaningfully skewed.
    “Your comments seem callous to me.”
    Tough world, princess.
    My opinion and only my opinion is that the reason for the slight (only slight) statistically higher rates of suicide in the armed forces is that people are away from family and old friends, trying to fit in with an ever changing group of peers that are likely to be already grouped into cliques. The loneliest place on earth can be among several thousand people who could give a shit about you. Add to that military discipline. I don’t know how much it’s changed in 30 or 40 years but there were sergeants who tried to outdo each other in seeing who could be the biggest prick in the world. Guts and gore? – anyone can get used to guts and gore. Mental illness and suicide all comes from within the victims head. All the rest are excuses.

  7. Canadians are stupid. I have been saying it for decades and nothing has changed they are still stupid.

  8. “…Army veterans never stop their pathetic whining….”
    Well, Scar, the vast majority doesn’t whine, but the press focuses on the ones that do.
    I know/knew lots of WWII and Korean vets – not a whiner or braggart in the bunch. The ones that had been wounded got (by today’s standards) small disability cheques, and they were grateful for it. None of them looked for recognition or thought that they had done anything special. They were all volunteers and they didn’t pretend that they didn’t know what they volunteered for: actual combat.
    I’m of the opinion that PTSD is nothing but depression, and I’m not trying to downplay depression by any means – depression is real and can be debilitating. But I can’t help but wonder about the incredible numbers of recent PTSD claims from our military and ex-military personnel.
    Let’s put it this way. I really hope that the Army, Navy and Air Force put a lot of thought and effort into screening out applicants who are susceptible to PTSD.

  9. meh. lieberals crapping on armed services personnel agin. watch the tactic change big time to wait until they are back in civvies vestments. they ALL do it of course, be it a CONservatist lobbying for a fancypants stealth fighter that NUMEROUS senior air force personnel and not just in Canuckistan publicly do the ‘ohhh pulEEZE no! no no no!!! the f35 will NOT do the job intended !!! ‘
    p.s., anything in the basic training manual to give green about-to-be-put-in-harms-way personnel a glimpse of what they’re in for? the horror and abuses? SOME sort of mental armour to see it for what it is and no need to internalize the whole friggin Shytholeinstan experience? jist askin’ . . . . .

  10. Callous and jaded are we? You sound like the whining soldiers you profess to abhor.

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