58 Replies to “I RESEMBLE THAT REMARK”

  2. Anti-Christians are always quick to trot out the “Thou shall not kill” mantra. Sadly for them, the correct translation is “Thou shall not murder”.
    If Cameron’s constituents first remembered “Thou shall not steal”, the other commandment would be in no danger of misinterpretation.

  3. Do the crime … do the time … which just might include eternity. Look on the bright side! The native perps could be joining their REAL First Nations ancestors. Big time pow wow in the sky. No bills to pay. But, sorry, no white man’s booze in the sky.

  4. When you phone 911 for help there is no guarantee when the RCMP will show up, so you could end dead in the mean time. So protecting your own property is a must, why are farm owners being penalized for this action! FN Indians are a problem in all Provinces when it comes to theft of homes, farms, and businesses with a Indian reserve near them. Native gangs is what it is all about….no one wants to talk about it! Not all reserves are painted with the same brush mind you! Just saying!! We have a right to protect ourselves don’t we!!!

  5. FSIN, news release, my Indian brothers and sisters, stop stealing or you could be shot to death. TY.

  6. I notice the cowards at the CBC aren’t allowing comments on the article.
    First, the commandment is not “thou shalt not kill”. It is “thou shall not murder”, and there is a difference.
    Second, the FSIN is misnamed. If you’re being funded by the Canadian government, ie Canadian taxpayers, then you are neither sovereign nor independent – you’re a parasite.
    Third, imagine if you will a white guy joyriding across the lawn of someone on a reserve. How long until said white guy gets shot? Your property is part of your life; you exchange part of your precious time and effort in exchange for the money to buy the property, so property theft or damage is the same as stealing someone’s time and effort; stealing a part of someone’s life.
    The one thing Harper could have done to improve the lives of all native Canadians would be to eliminate the Indian Act.

  8. “Third, imagine if you will a white guy joyriding across the lawn of someone on a reserve.”
    They have lawns on a reserve???

  9. Finally some common sense towards self defence in parts of Canada!
    Now let’s move on and talk about Castle Laws & Stand your ground, Canadians have a right to self defence.

  10. FNs have been living off the avails of theft for generations. That some of their own have opted to go flee-lance instead of via the federal looting machine and that their victims are upset could come as a surprise or disappointment to some.

  11. Bingo!
    Knight 99, this will go nowhere as there are almost no Castle Laws and no Stand Your Ground legislation. The government owns everything. Besides, Gormley does not agree with defending or protecting the property that you rent from the government.

  12. “‘Let us do our jobs’: RCMP respond to Sask. farmers taking up arms” CBC.
    We’ve seen how they do “their jobs”, in High River AB, while nearby “First Nations” property were ignored while being evacuated themselves after flooding.
    And yes, they do have “lawns” on reserves, I’ve seen ’em. Usually the more prosperous property has one, with a more upscale home on it & with a chain link fence around it to keep the riff raff off.

  13. I live 45 miles from the nearest police. All rural residents are first responders. Something’s going on? You go check it out.
    When it goes wrong as it sometimes does the results can be tragic. Anybody remember the nut case weibo lugwig? He got into a pissing match with the O&G industry in northern Alberta. After a number of bombs went off the whole sordid mess came to a head when a truckload of teens joy rode across weibo’s lawn. Someone in the yard (presumably one of weibo’s flock) let go a shot and killed a teenage girl (Karmen Willis) who was a passenger in the truck. She had nothing to do with weibo’s fight. She was an innocent. A kid out having fun who happened to find herself in the wrong place at the wrong time – on somebody’s lawn. The case was never solved.
    Serious business when incidents arise where firearms are involved – on both sides.

  14. Ken (Kulak) >
    Agreed!
    ….and that’s the problem here that we need to try and change. This municipalities self-defence resolution is a good start.

  16. “If I’m sitting at home and I can see with my own eyes that someone has broken into my own truck, am I going to think to myself: ‘Am I going to kill someone and shoot them in the head point blank?'” Cameron says.
    Whose eyes do you usually see things with?
    This Chief has had too much Hollywood, the probable result is a load of buckshot which would not necessarily be fatal at fifty yards.
    Farmer I met in the North Shuswap several years ago said that he woke up to a noise and there were several people involved in loading his tractor on to a flat deck. He immediately dialed 9-11. The dispatcher said to handle it himself as no cops were available in this dead little backwater where the most serious crime was usually jaywalking or littering.
    The local newspaper at one point opined that there might be less property crime if the RCMP spent less time in Tim Horton’s,where on any given day you would find at least two or three RCMP sucking up coffee and doughnuts. The local RCMP were outraged by the suggestion, but we noticed they didn’t hang around Tim’s as much any more.
    Long and short of it, they stole his tractor, the RCMP came out the next day and assured him they would investigate. He never saw his tractor again, no one was ever charged, but the RCMP DID tell him unequivocally that if he had brought out his gun and even threatened the thieves,he would have been charged.
    I guess he was supposed to go out and confront a gang of well organized farm equipment thieves armed only with his Bible. The farmer would at the very least have gotten the living sh** beaten out of him.
    “Let us do our jobs” actually translates to;”we’ll put out a description of your stolen property and will open a case file,which you can refer to in future”.
    And that’s it. Canadians;always remember that you are SUBJECTS of the Crown, mere peasants sitting on land you don’t really own. Smarten up and act subservient as you’re supposed to, uppity buggers.

  17. In our northeastern town, the RCMP are always busy.
    Always. Infact, I think new recruits are sent here, to get really, REALLY broken in.
    Theft, domestics, drunks.
    And whenever serious weapons are involved, even the sergent gets his hand dirty.
    They do a great job.

  18. “Canadians;always remember that you are SUBJECTS of the Crown, mere peasants sitting on land you don’t really own. Smarten up and act subservient as you’re supposed to, uppity buggers.”
    Bingo!

  19. A 93% margin of approval for a SARMA motion that rural owners need more rights to protect their property.
    Reaction ? If we ignore this it will go away !
    Next time, maybe the delegation should demand these rights instead of a meek request.
    There won’t be any changes as long as we elect the same people with the same mindset. Time to kick ass! The present system is not working and will get worse !

  20. So is this comment by a FN rep a tacit admission that it is mostly FN individuals whose actions have produced this motion? One would then think that going to the source of the problem and telling your own people to stop being thieves would be a logical step. Because if FN leaders are concerned about property protection, then they are admitting that it is their people who are primarily stealing or damaging property. That is a big admission!
    Someone has commented here that a root difference between conservatives and liberals is that conservatives primarily view each person as responsible for their own actions and situations. Liberals eschew individual responsibility and consequences for actions. In their arrogance, they assume that all people are totally good by nature (as they feel they are) so any wrongdoings must have some outside source. Conservatives tend to see human nature as a mixed bag, and so are capable of dealing with both the good and the evil that people do.

  21. Next time he shouldn’t think of it as losing a tractor, but an opportunity for gaining a nice flatbed truck?

  22. “Farmer I met in the North Shuswap several years ago said that he woke up to a noise and there were several people involved in loading his tractor on to a flat deck. He immediately dialed 9-11. The dispatcher said to handle it himself as no cops were available in this dead little backwater where the most serious crime was usually jaywalking or littering.”
    The correct response? “OK, then, I’d like to report shots fired, and one… two… three… four dead guys.” The cops will be there tout de suite.

  23. *
    it’s almost as if chief bobby is saying that all the folk he knows are charter members of the thieves guild and therefore at risk of being headshot… which, of course, all of my cranky caucasian neighbours are prone to doing with alarming regularity.
    why waste lots of ammo on centre mass when you can instantly change someone’s horoscope… a la 115 grain to the brain.
    bravo to the cbc for exposing more “minority report” type pre-crime against protected peoples.
    *

  26. “Cameron, who attended the SARM convention Tuesday, expressed shock over the adoption of the resolution. He said violence is never the answer, especially when it comes to preventing theft. “It’s one of our 10 commandments: Thou shalt not kill,” he said. “We understand protecting property, but at what point do we have boundaries?”
    Isn’t there a “Thou shalt not steal” commandment, too?
    Shooting thieves may not be the only answer. How about cutting off a hand and a foot of the perps?

  27. When it comes to property theft, the cops are on the side of the thieves, pure and simple, and without fail.

  28. Yes, and there is also the 10th commandment, that the left has decided is racist.
    It can be summed up as “Keep yer hands of my stuff!”

  29. The solution should be the same that American ranchers have when they come across a cow with Mad Cow disease…”shoot, scoop and shut up”

  31. Any rancher that gets caught doing that deserves to be pauperized and sold into slavery by his competition.

  32. A neighbour of mine had some problems a number of years back with fuel disappearing from his tanks. He finally got sick of it and came up with a plan. A chair, bottle of rum, 3030 and he parked himself in the raspberries on a bright summer evening. Sure enough here comes a pickup, lights off (you could turn them off in those days) heading for the fuel tanks. The thieves reached for the nozzle when buddy put one through the box side of the 150. At the retort of the Winchester the thieves lit out….on foot.
    Buddy slid in behind the wheel and put the pickup in his shop and locked the door. The next day he had some company. No it wasn’t the cops because nobody called them. It was the thieves, with a hand full of cash. That one turned out good. Buddy got paid for his fuel and the thieves (kids) got tuned up. Lesson learned.
    Not all these situations turn out like that one did.

  34. Very effective method of pest disposal that works in Alberta too.
    One of Ralph Klein’s most remembered remarks occurred in the midst of the 2003 mad cow crisis when he infamously told a meeting of Western Governors in Big Sky, Mont., that “any self respecting rancher would have shot, shovelled and shut up”…

  35. … a root difference between conservatives and liberals is that conservatives primarily view each person as responsible for their own actions and situations. Liberals eschew individual responsibility and consequences for actions. In their arrogance, they assume that all people are totally good by nature (as they feel they are) so any wrongdoings must have some outside source. Conservatives tend to see human nature as a mixed bag, and so are capable of dealing with both the good and the evil that people do.
    Good summary of the fundamental differences in government and why the two can not coexist. It’s like two people shouting at each other in different languages.

  36. “‘Let us do our jobs’: RCMP respond to Sask. farmers taking up arms”
    You’re not doing your jobs because you’re too busy harassing gun owners to worry about little things like property crimes. When you can finally be bothered to show up at the scene you do so only to intimidate the victim into not defending themselves in the future. And then you go and smoke pipe with the thugs that robbed him. That is of course if you are not too busy engaging in property crimes against the same gun owners yourself. Jackbooted thugs one and all.

  37. In the case of mad cow disease, the act of ““any self respecting rancher would have shot, shovelled and shut up”.” is the act of “eschew individual responsibility and consequences for actions.”

  38. “OK, then, I’d like to report shots fired, and one… two… three… four dead guys.”
    Or you could breathlessly say that you just saw a kid nibble his peanut butter and jam sandwich in the shape of a gun.

  39. Nice narrative CBC would be proud. Weibo’s past had nothing to do with he fact that a bunch of assholes were trespassing on his property, damaging it and threatening people on it. If they hadn’t been doing so they would not be shot at.
    “A kid out having fun who happened to find herself in the wrong place at the wrong time – on somebody’s lawn. ”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7X2_V60YK8

  40. “Or you could breathlessly say that you just saw a kid nibble his peanut butter and jam sandwich in the shape of a gun.”, and then say he pointed it at another kid who’s allergic to peanuts. That’s bound to get a good SWAT response.

  42. “When seconds count the police are only minutes away.”
    E.g. in the case of rural areas, sometimes 60 or 120 minutes away.

  43. “This Chief has had too much Hollywood, the probable result is a load of buckshot which would not necessarily be fatal at fifty yards.”
    It’ll kill a deer at 50 yards. That’s why they cal it “buck” shot. Bird shot, you probably mean.
    But the thing is, you don’t use a gun to scare people off. You use a gun when the alternative is, you’re going to -die-.
    Because this is CANADA, and in Canada you have no right to defense of life, much less property. At all. You use your gun -knowing- that your freedom, your family and all your worldly possessions are going to be taken from you. For sure.
    In my mind, it would be worth it to let them take the tractor, then burn the house and the barn down with it. Because this is Canada, not a free country like America.
    The gun is for when the chainsaw wielding maniac in the hockey mask saws open the bedroom door. Jail is survivable, as is welfare.

  44. Yah, and if it had been one of my girls, there would have been a whole lota burying going on. There was little need that time for what happened, there should not have been a shooting, PERIOD!

  45. Because this is CANADA, and in Canada you have no right to defense of life, much less property.
    You absolutely have the right to defend yourself and your property with lethal force in Canada.

  46. As I recall, that night several of Ludwig’s kids were sleeping in a tent in the yard at the time, and the truck nearly hit the tent. The kids in the truck had NO BUSINESS whatsoever being on his farm that night and nearly killed his kids. If I were in Weibo Ludwig’s position, I’d have been shooting to kill, too.

  47. There wouldn’t have been any shooting if these idiots didn’t decide to joyride on his front lawn and threaten people there. They weren’t just innocent kids having fun. They were committing a crime and she died during the commission of the crime. Granted punishment did not fit the crime. So what? In the end either they were being assholes and met a worse asshole then them or they were being assholes and someone acted in self defense. Generally not being assholes would have prevented the outcome.
    It does not matter how much I dislike the people on the lawn for unrelated reasons (try to imagine they were atheist if it helps you). In this case when they seen a pickup charging them across the front lawn they might well have been in the right. Might have not, hard to say.
    Also you may want to teach your girls not to get into cars with assholes.

  48. SDH said: “You absolutely have the right to defend yourself and your property with lethal force in Canada.”
    No. You really don’t. You have the right to go to jail for defending yourself and your property.
    For an enlightening experience, look up the case of Ian Thompson of Welland Ontario.

  50. Well geez folks, get with the program: according to Occupy – you remember, the manifesto-generating machine that informed so very much of the Dems’ run at the election – there is NO SUCH THING AS PROPERTY CRIME, since obviously all property should be abolished and held in common by the Proletariat.
    How can you imagine you have the right to defend that which will some day, perhaps sooner than you might imagine, no longer be yours?
    Just sayin’.

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