57 Replies to “Aleppo: Final Messages”

  1. This is a war of annihilation. Both sides deal with civilians in inopportune places the same way. There religion teaches them that this is the will of Allah. They can take comfort from that.

  3. When you’re listening or watching news reports, listen carefully.
    Nowhere in the western media will you hear that ISIS is involved.
    Instead, these are the ‘good jihadists’ that the UN and the US are backing … the ones the US supplies with weapons.
    It worked out so well in Iraq, Libya and Egypt that the US tried to impose Jeffersonian democracy in Syria.
    The plan, as Obama had articulated so many times, was for the ‘good rebels’ to take out the Saddat regime, then the US could come in and THEN take on ISIS.
    It’s another big loss for US foreign policy and everybody in the region knows who supported the rebellion.
    The Coptic Orthodox bishop of England @BishopAngaelos was on Fox after the St. Mark’s Cathedral in Alexandria, Egypt was bombed and pointed out a power vacuum has been created in the region and as a result the jihadists are now doing their thing. If you’re on twitter, look it up.

  4. Allah knows best. I wish both sides success in their endeavors. We are just kufar scum and have no right to interfere with Islams civil disputes on which branch of Islam is the favorite of Allah.They all deserve lead participation ribbons.

  6. Oops. Meant to write Assad. They all sound the same to me 🙂
    Thanks for pointing that out.
    All else stands and is totally valid. It’s important to know who’s sticking their nose into something that’s none of their business.
    Trump has pointed out on numerous times it was a mistake for Bush to go into Iraq, even though his detractors point out an early comment on the Howard Stern show. After considering other factors, Trump has been consistent in saying it would be a mistake for the US to get involved in the region.
    Every other interference after Bush, i.e. the Arab Spring, just compound the fundamental error, arrogance and delusion of US foreign policy that once they toppled dictatorships, the people would immediately embrace Jeffersonian democracy and everything would be fine. History has show otherwise.

  7. “Trump has pointed out on numerous times it was a mistake for Bush to go into Iraq”
    No doubt. Although hindsight is 20-20. Sadam was a brutal thug however if you want to rule over savages and keep the lid on extremism, brutality is a must.

  8. None of this “trending”, heart rending Twitter storm from fleeing refugees passed my smell test. If I am being poison-gassed to death, bombed to death, raped by soldiers … the LAST thing I am trying to do is find an operable wifi connection and film some weepy plea for help. No, I would have gotten my ass out of Dodge years ago, and would be trying to resettle my family in a nice peaceful little town. Sadly, all the MSM fake-news outlets have no such filter … well at least no filter for “their side” of the “news”

  9. I have picked sides. The side of the legitimate Syrian government. In striving to destabilize Middle Eastern governments, the US created Al Queda, the Taliban and ISIS. Then they go to war with them.
    To a large degree the Syrian civil war is a religious war with Sunni Arabs wanting to kill everyone else. Everyone else includes Alawites, other Shiites, Druze, Christians, and Kurds. Obama is Sunni so he supports the rebels. No mystery there.

  10. My highest commendations to the phone company that is keeping those cell towers going in Aleppo. Everything else is destroyed except the wireless network.
    Twenty years ago I had the fortune to visit Japan. Walking through Tokyo I noticed hardly any old buildings. My host pointed out that most of the buildings were destroyed when the Americans fire-bombed the city killing tens of thousands of innocent people, many women and children.
    More recently I’ve read that the Americans convinced the British that fire-bombing strategic German cities like Berlin would bring a quicker end to the war.
    So I’m confused when I listen to the White House condemning Russia’s help in liberating Aleppo from ISIS terrorists. What is the US policy on fire-bombing, when did it change and does it only apply to Russia?

  11. The looters and thugs of the left will never be your friends. The fake news label is just the next tactic in the war on liberty. The intended recipients of this subterfuge is the mushy middle of the electorate whose collective memory, if it has one, is very short, because, “everyone just wants to get along”. The Spawn’s success is due to this demographic swallowing this kind of media bilge.

  15. “I’ve learned not to pick a side.”
    It’s a civil war – the worst kind of conflict for other countries to meddle in.
    If the aim for the West was to depose nasty old Assad, the moment was five years ago.
    Too late now.
    Well, I suppose we could always draw another line in the sand.

  16. Another thought:
    If the horrors of Assad’s despotic rule are supposedly worth our engagement, why no corresponding outrage in the West against North Korea? The Kims make the Assads look like mere amateurs.
    So why haven’t we toppled the evil Kim Jong-in and his regime?
    “crickets”

  18. What do you mean, Ms. McMillan, that you haven’t picked sides? There is jihad, and there is OUR side. Just as in WWII there was our side, and the Nazi side. The Nazis initiated total war, but we were better at it than they were. Of course it was utterly horrible. Young Canadians, flying bombing missions over Germany, used to be sickened by the smell of burnt flesh wafting up from below.
    So which side are you on, Ms. McMillan? The side doinG the bombing, or the side being burnt up?
    Our side obliterated several German cities. Razed them to the ground. Nothing like that has happened to Aleppo.

  19. North Korea – they would give the US a fair fight. The US would have to kill millions and wouldn’t look good to the world.

  22. The USA will continue its diplomatic and economic distancing itself from the ME. It has been going on since Bush. Energy self sufficiency has a lot to do with it but also the realization that the true financiers of radical Islam is the Saudis.
    Israel can retain its regional power as the Sunnis will have to co-operate with them to maintain some kind of defence against the Iranians. The real military power in the ME is Iran and Turkey. They both border Russia. Better allies actually. The loss of oil revenue over the long term will reduce the Islamic threat.
    Russia can reassert their energy sales into Euroland. Trump can cut a deal which allows this with conditions that guarantee the Ukraine and Baltic states. Nato is likely toast as the Euros have dipped into USA pockets long enough. As allies they simply never pulled their weight.
    Whatever happens in Euroland is their own doing. North America can never again be duped into sacrifing our youth to bail these freeloaders out. At some point their irresponsible immigration policies likely causes civil wars.

  24. Or use a comma: “There, religion teaches” That region will be like that as long as that religion is dominant.

  25. @John Lewis
    Don’t try to compare wars, it’s a worthless exercise.
    I’ve co-authored two books: one on the men on our cenotaph – WWI and WWII, and Afghanistan. The second a book of letters from the front in WWI.
    I’ve read more books about those two wars than any woman needs to read. I’m read out on Bomber Command.
    Avoid comparing German cities with the cities Germany bombed unless you want to remember that the Luftwaffe had pilots with war experience, a larger force, attacked Poland, Rotterdam, before they bombed English cities. Instead of looking at photos of Dresden, look at the streets in the English cities after a bombing, and don’t claim “innocent citizens” for people who supported Hitler.
    Stick with what is going on now. You’ll get a bellyful of atrocities and innocent lives lost. One of the Canadian soldiers recently returned from Iraq knows there are Muslims living there who don’t support the terrorists and if he can feel sorry for them and the fact that the innocent are being killed in order to accomplish the main goal (and they come home and must come to terms with that) then maybe we could acknowledge it also, even if our feet aren’t on the ground.

  26. The US keeps 100,000 troops in Europe while most of Europe has dropped conscription. Even when Germany had the draft, most conscripts chose alternate service. European men have morphed into a bunch of girls.
    European NATO has 4 times the population of Russia. If there were serious, at all, they could outgun Russia by 4 times without much pain. Europe thinks they can disarm and the US will save their asses. They must think they are Canada.

  27. Or use a comma: “There, religion teaches…” That region won’t be at peace while their religion is dominant.

  28. Learned not to pick a side?
    Hmm, secular Assad, or ISIS, Al-Qeada, the MB and the like. It ain’t hard to see who the good guys are in that theatre.
    Keerist!

  29. Anyone who think a war can be won without killing “innocents”, and women and children, is an idiot.

  31. I’ll embark upon your hovercraft Mr. Eel 🙂
    This is a war of annihilation. Both sides …
    There are more than two sides …
    What bugs me is the self-reening of Obama propaganda … they created this mess and Egypt were lucky to avoid it. Obama has been a disaster for the Mid East and US Policy in the Mid East. ROll on 20th January.
    PS I am not a knee-jerk America Blamer, but this one is on this administration.

  32. yessiree WW II was all black hats and white hats.
    – anti-Semitism the world over
    – Jersey Gurnsey BRITS rat out their Jewish neighbors
    – 100,000 DUTCH enlist in the wermacht shortly after the bombs stop falling on Amsterdam (according to The World @ War video series 1975)
    – Vichy Fwance heyo you locals, simmer down and you can be a puppet state with all the perks . . . .
    – American Nazi party
    – Quisling
    – senior Nazi scientists whisked off state side 1945 for obvious reasons, no repercussions for Herr von Braun et al.
    etc.
    ya wol. all black undt vite.

  33. ..PS I am not a knee-jerk America Blamer, but this one is on this administration…
    1000% correct…all on the Muslim Brotherhood Mole – Barak Hussein Obama – Sunni Muslim.
    He will be relegated to history…very soon and history will not look kindly upon this dirtbag whatsoever….

  34. While you Jews did what? Oh yeah, nothing, except be ungrateful when the Brits handed you Israel on a silver platter.

  35. “PS I am not a knee-jerk America Blamer, but this one is on this administration.” BINGO! Btw, has anyone seen that line in the sand? I thought not.
    That said, someone wondered where the communication towers were that were still capable of transmitting these so-called last messages? Good question when you see the supposed devastation in the city.
    In any war, and it does not matter from which side, truth is the first victim. And, we have seen in the current election crisis in the US how the media in the US and in Canada treat “truth”.

  36. John, you’re usually better than this. Did you watch the video first? “I’m not going to pick sides” is talking about the battles in Syria where the world would be better off if an asteroid wiped out both sides. Like the communists against the fascists.
    “Our side” isn’t in this one. And I’d rather keep it that way.

  37. I hold to the W. T. Sherman school of thought:
    “War is cruelty. There is no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.”
    I believe the Russians hold the same belief. Most certainly ISIS does.
    And yes, I place the blame on U.S. President Obama and his minions. His middle east policies have been so screwed up that one scarce knows where to start criticizing them. But you all knew that already.
    Twitter is full of twits…… but don’t be dismissive. Unfortunately it’s the way things are done these days. President elect Trump seems to have understood this before I did. After “principled” resistance perhaps it’s time for me to get in the game.

  38. “It’s not fashionable to care about Aleppo anymore or even anything that happens in Syria aside from the eradication of ISIS. Even so, millions of people all over the world not named Gary Johnson believe that the Assad regime and the Russians have been fighting ISIS in Aleppo, but nope. ISIS is not in Aleppo. ISIS has never been in Aleppo. ISIS is just about the only armed group in the entire country that hasn’t been fighting in Aleppo.” http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/blogs/michael-j-totten

  39. Koni:
    “It’s important to know who’s sticking their nose into something that’s none of their business.”
    Pootin? His palls from Hezbollah? Their sugar daddies from Iran?

  40. What’s your point? Of course I’ve seen pictures of Auschwitz. Utterly horrible. Do you think I am apologizing for Dresden, or Hamburg, or wherever? I think, though I am not sure, that my father did some of the preliminary planning for Dresden. Good for him.

  43. Exactly ! The Arab Spring didn’t quite work out as predicted by the college sophomore in the White House … now did it ? The Arab street is a vicious, bloodthirsty, fundamentalist fragmented rabble who are all fighting against each other … and … the Western world. Until Arab Muslims become mature, and joint he family of man in the 21st Century … they NEED fascist Dictators telling them what to do.

  44. Obama’s RED line has been painted in the BLOOD of the Syrian people. Has there EVER been a more feckless, weak, and impotent POTUS ? I think not. And … Nowwwww can we finally SEE the college transcripts of our FIRST affirmative-action president ?

  45. “…they NEED fascist Dictators telling them what to do.”
    I am very much sympathetic to this argument except that, what is the plan when said fascist dictators tell their people to do jihad. Assad does it with Hezbollah, so do Turbans of Tehran, Saudis do it. They do not need just fascist dictators, they need our (not russian btw but our) fascists dictators.

  46. Suspect part of the problem is that so many of the best and the brightest young men – aristos, middle class, and working class – got taken out in WW I and a lot more followed in WW II. That did a fair bit to the gene pool.

  47. Civil wars half way around the world are none of our business; meddling by outsiders only makes it worse.
    If the money pissed away on Mideast military misadventures had been spent instead on nuclear energy research and development, then North America would be totally energy independent and the Muslimes could go to Hell.
    Insanity: repeating the same mistake over and over and expecting a different result.

  48. I assume you mean slash and burn the enemy to the ground … Twitter, or no Twitter.

  49. It seems as though we developed successful fracking … just a little too late. Since the American left was convinced the neocon war was “blood for oil” … we should have invested more in our own oil extraction instead of waiting for Obama to extract us from Iraq. Next time round … we definitely need to turn the sand to glass. That’s how we needed to deploy our Nuclear capability. In, out, done.

  50. Yep … Reagan taught Ghadaffi to toe the line. And Mubarek knew who signs his biggest checks. The trouble is that Hillary and Obama both suckled the spoilt milk expressed by Saul Alinsky … that America needs to STOP creating puppet dictators. None of these fools evolved past the Sopomore year down at the Junior College.

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