49 Replies to “Indeed”

  1. What a bunch of stinking hypocrites! Talk about biting the hands that feed you your welfare cheques.
    Tens of thousands of miles of pipelines in North America and very rarely is there any leaks.
    This is all about catering to the earth muffins and trying to squeeze some money.
    Although they are no more asinine than Premiers Wynne and Notely, and our new fluffy PM and his handler Butts.

  3. It is not about the environment. It is all about getting a slice of the revenue! Quebec has tapped about every source of taxation they can get away with. Their spending has lowered their credit rating. Combine this with the fact that Quebec is one of the most corrupt constituencies in NORTH AMERICA!
    Yes the same province that brought you Turdeau, Mulchair, Mulroney. Yes the same brain trust that is promoted as Canada’s best leadership. Denise Coderre the Liebel MP for 15 years was the federal Minister of Immigration with the corruption charges of ‘selling’ passports and the Sponsorship scandal where millions of $’s were stolen. With this record the man is elected Mayor of Montreal. If this is not a clear indication of where Canada is headed with these types running the country then I do not know what is.

  5. Last tally I heard Ken was around 420,000 miles of pipeline, and like you say, few leaks, and I’m sure some of the leaks are Weiboish in nature, caused by the environMENTALists or other nefarious types, but until we elect a man to office this crap will go on. Look at the men out there today in politics, millie men who go with the flow don’t want to lose a vote instead of calling a spade a spade like Trump does. Here in Canada the metros/enviros just delivered us Pee Wee Herman for a leader! Brad Wall is the only leader in Canada who is not afraid to say what needs to be said, you are lucky still in Sask, here in Alberta the puppies that wanted Workmans Comp on the farms still don’t know that under that legislation I don’t think they can sue their employer if they get hurt on their farm job. NDPee Liberal types are usually misfits malcontents miscreants gender confused and fatsos along with trust funders and inherited wealthers, hardly a foundation for rational non-malicious thought patterns.

  6. Great Comment Ct…..simply great.!
    Regardless of who/what or where when it comes to “environmental issues”…..follow the MONEY.
    Who made out like bandits in the wind energy Disaster enveloping Ontario.? LIBERAL Insiders.
    Who do you think is behind the global trashing (and funding of environmental groups), of our Oil Sands.? Our competition folks…The US, Saudi Arabia and Oil Funds world wide…among others.
    If you honestly believe all the BS emanating from those that pontificate about Climate change et all…Follow the MONEY and it will change your mind.
    Christy Clark, Coderre and many just like them could give a rats (_i_) about the environment…give em enough money and they’ll shut up. Those that protest outside are simply useful idiots..blinded by disinformation and propaganda.
    Sad really…particularly when we have a vacuous two bit child as Prime Minister.

  7. CT is absolutely correct. This is about toll-gating, not the environment. They’ve done the same thing to Newfoundland with respect to transmission access from Churchill River hydraulic projects. Quite simply, Quebec wants a bigger share of the benefits.
    It’s a bit difficult to sympathize with Alberta right now. After all, if Albertans elected a government that won’t stand up for the province’s interests, why should anyone else?

  8. A bit OT but since ct brought up the sponsorship scandal, does anyone know whether the libs have paid back even one red cent of the 100 million the stole?
    I have my doubts that Coyne Hebert or the rest of the liberal media wing are going to ask or know.
    My guess is nothing repaid.

  9. Hey Wall, step up and make firm demands of the PM. No pipeline, then no tax revenue generated by Western oil for the feds. Back fill the federal tax portion with provincial taxes and keep the money at home.

  10. Good idea dj, although I don’t think it will work because the snakes next door will not lend support. Unfortunately the Western provinces are ‘out of phase’. To get out of this situation we need to vote grown ups with guts in all the west at the same time. Where can you find a Ralph Klein when you need one?

  11. Canaduh, 35 million people living just north of the American border held together by bribes and false promises

  12. Question:
    Wasn’t the pipeline through BC to have a smaller pipe, actually filled with oil, and another pipe surrounding it?
    I thought if it was doubled, then if the smaller one leaks, then it would go into the one surrounding it … therefore no oil spill. If it is a double pipe, then it will be very difficult for any environment damage. The same idea could be for the West – East pipeline.
    Ontario seems to forget that the pipe is manufactured there – along with all the attachments needed. (Though smelting the iron is as polluting as California oil – the dirtiest in North America.)

  13. The problem is that this childless display of “mine,gimme” is all reward and no risk for Ontario and Quebec. They gain votes due to ever present anti-Alberta/anti-western bigotry in the Golden Horseshoe. They might even be able to squeeze a few more billions out of private industry and taxpayers. For instance, I’m sure Montreal would love to host a carbon market – a scheme that’s a buffet of fraud and kickbacks (see the EU ETS). The well documented contender for the most corrupt jurisdiction in North America must drool at the prospect.
    There needs to be a better balance built into these cross Canadian projects. I suggest direct compensation. After all, we already compensate provinces and private business. Just recently the TPP included compensation for dairy, auto and fisherman. If Quebec and Ontario want to reject energy east then they should compensate Alberta, Saskatchewan and New Brunswick for lost revenue. Ditto BC. If the federal government is creating roadblocks then I guess the costs should fall on them. Increase the risk side of the NIMBY equation. Give private businesses a solid footing to work from.

  14. Cordere want’s some cash. That is how they operate in quebek. If the Energy East boys pony up a bribe – the pipeline goes ahead.
    This show of defiance is posturing to obtain a better deal. Cash in a brown bag resolves this issue.
    Think the foreign ‘dirty oil’the purchase now doesn’t come to quebek with ‘benefits’?
    Why would they get rid of a sweetheart deal?

  15. We’ve heard from the pompous little prick Coderre but how about the Premier of the perpetual Equalization taker province? If he’s against the pipeline they should be cut off. Of course, they will be all cut off if we don’t get our clean and ETHICAL oil flowing…windmills and solar panels are akin to farts in a windstorm, making a few people rich an millions poor trying to escape freezing in the dark.

  16. I guess Coderre hasn’t connected another dot, the oil-laden trainwreck that wiped out one of his towns.
    The time has come to put a stop to equalization. Notley seems to agree because she’s doing everything in her power to ensure the largesse won’t be available. AB can’t be counted on as our one trick pony of equalization; BC won’t be picking up that slack either.
    The time is now for provinces to collect their own income taxes to prevent confiscation to pay for others’ political perks. Every cloud has a silver lining and the oil crash has two: putting the lid on interprovincial dole; and low oil prices crushing once and for all green energy rents/cons. Now like oil, only the best/cost effective remains, so goodbye to AB capitalized wind turbines and other useless energy technologies across the land. Unless, of course, the locals want to foot 100% of the bill.
    Then people wonder why we guys like Trump are so popular now. Gunter in his wind up, says it well:
    “Coderre is like the university student who comes home for the holidays and announces, “Mom and Dad, I can’t go into business like you two. Profits are just so immoral. Oh, by the way, can I get a cheque for my tuition, residence, books and spending money?” Standing up to Coderre will be a good early test for Liberal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, but don’t expect the even “greener,” Montreal MP to do it.
    No doubt if Alberta were to demand that Quebec be cut off equalization for rejecting Energy East, central Canada’s chattering classes would label Albertans as bad partners in Confederation. But Quebec will not be called un-Canadian for obstructing the livelihoods of Westerners while still demand the equalization bucks keep rolling in.”
    http://www.edmontonsun.com/2016/01/23/no-oil-quebec-fine-no-equalization-payments

  17. Dead on!
    The bottom line is this:
    Dear Mr. Coderre,
    Perhaps the people that only sign the backs of cheques should be a tad more considerate to the people that sign the front of the cheque.

  18. Every oil and gas company (in fact ALL companies) should review any contracts they have to buy goods or services from Quebec companies and IMMEDIATELY CANCEL THEM. Albertans should be very careful to not buy anything that comes from Quebec.

  19. There will be no Energy East pipeline built or even approved during PMJT’s first (and hopefully last) term. Some reasons, in no particular order:
    Justin has vowed to rejig the NEB hearing process with what one can only assume are more onerous hurdles for energy companies.
    The Shiny Pony’s penchant for “social licence” will ensure that every fringe enviro and social justice group with a decent Tides Canada grant will be afforded a de facto veto.
    Denis Coderre’s position is not an outlier but part of coordinated LPC effort to thwart western interests. DC is the ultimate backroom LPC player in QC and this was merely the opening act of a well scripted political play. Remember, the LPC encourages and thrives on division and manufactured constitutional crisis’s.
    Notley’s weak sauce response was just enough to give her a veneer of cover. Crushing the O&G industry is her ultimate goal so don’t expect much of a fight from our Dipper overlords.
    Segments of the traditional right wing media in Alberta have been co-opted by the left. Case in point, talk radio. The QR77 morning show identified DC as a former CPC MP and when corrected by numerous listeners on social media, immediately pivoted, downplaying the importance and power of DC. Turns out he was a mere bit player in QC LPC circles rather than QC Lte. The same show has been pumping the reasonableness of Notley’s approach, giving her the “benefit of doubt” and preaching patience. The rest of the lineup on QR has almost become un-listenable, to the point that aging hippie morning man Bruce Kenyon has become the conservative voice on the station. So don’t be looking to talk radio in YYC for more than a cursory defense of our energy industry.
    I could go on but I think the point’s been made. Hunker down, it’s going to get much worse before it gets better.

  20. It’s called jacketed piping. Often used with a vacuum and insulation in the annulus for cryogenic liquids and for fluids that need heating. Steam or, say, Dowtherm goes in the annular space for hot fluids.

  21. For what it is worth, this morning I heard from someone who was in Edmonton lately that last month 300 vehicles were left unclaimed at the airport. Suddenly unemployed people going back to the east and abandoning their unpaid for vehicles.

  22. Aside from all the kickbacks and shady deals and gimmie-gimmie crap, I have a question. I don’t believe our provinces share the same autonomy as a state does in the U.S. so assuming we had a real federal leader (big assumption – I know) and his majority parliament, could the feds not simply pass legislation that the pipeline WOULD be built whether the provinces like it or not?

  23. The Constitution stands in the way of that idea. Not only are natural resources the responsibility of the provinces, there’s the Notwithstanding clause.

  24. Question, Ken. If the laid-off workers are returning “home”, do they then get EI benefits based on the Maritime rules or the Alberta rules? Also, have these workers ever been paying Alberta income tax, or is it their “home” provinces that have been benefiting? I heard that, if the family stayed “down East”, the Alberta worker was deemed to be a resident of the province where the family was. So, work in Alberta but pay tax to Nfld, NB, NS, etc.

  25. Quebec can no longer if it ever wanted to block the passage of electricity through the province because of NAFTA I believe.

  26. The Wikipedia entries in English about Churchill Falls and Muskrat Falls were mainly done by Newfoundlanders so check other sources as well. The French version is a somewhat more accurate.

  27. This comes under the saying “no MERDE Sherlock”! Just what does this asshole prefer = another Lac Megantic? Coderre is just one of many incredible idiots to be Mayor of Montreal.

  28. Yeh I heard the talking heads on QR77 going on and on about Corderre being a Conservative. Nobody at the station knew otherwise? No producer or someone in the news room?
    Corderre was a quebek lieutenant in Prime Minister Adscam’s government (chretien ).
    You’da thunk the talking heads would have
    been aware of that simple fact before going on and on in error.

  29. The QR77 morning guys couldn’t pack water to the guy QR fired – Dave Rutherford. Think he’d have got it so wrong?
    How could someone who holds himself out as informed with an opinion not know Corderre was a Librano cab minister? C’mon

  30. The QR77 morning guys couldn’t pack water to the guy QR fired – Dave Rutherford. Think he’d have got it so wrong?
    How could someone who holds himself out as informed with an opinion not know Corderre was a Librano cab minister? C’mon

  31. Careful abtrapper your talking about QR77s very own Beavis and Butthead show followed by the Quisling Manning show followed by the Cumquat show and collectively they couldnt pack Daves water before 2013 after that when he developed the stiffie for Quis, he only needed lotion, which is lighter to handle, and he went completely downhill along with QR’s ratings.

  32. Looks like cananda has its own version of the EPA all the eco-driven stupidity of the eco-freak movment

  33. I am sure that Russia will be ever so careful with the transport of their vast Arctic oil reserves. I am certain they will do a much more environmentally responsible job of it than those evil Canadian big oil corporations would. So we might as well let Russia provide the worlds energy needs

  34. This wouldn’t be my first choice, but it’s starting to make more objective sense. Given Albertans’ preference for action over talk, a significant recession may in fact make this far more palatable, particularly if Alberta could make a Puerto Rico-like arrangement with the US.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw5LjZ3Q7j4

  35. The one and the same Denis Coderre who when as Liberal MP marched in a pro-Lebanese rally under the Hezbollah flag, in Montreal? That moron? Well, sewage seems to be his game. He’s now submerged himself in at least two distinct forms of it and drowned both times, by the looks of it. Things must be awful in Montreal if this discard is the best that could be offered up to be mayor. And the people said, “oui”? Wow!

  36. “So don’t be looking to talk radio in YYC for more than a cursory defense of our energy industry.”
    It may be the consolidation of media, but it’s the same in the Vancouver market. CKNW at one time had some balance but now it’s unlistenable. Not a deep thinker amongst them – just the regurgitation of emotional holier than thou talking points in support of all things liberal and environmental.
    Sadly, they probably have their listenership pegged though. The thirty, forty and fifty year olds who have come through the indoctrination of the education system for the last thirty years listen, not their heads and say yup….
    Thank God for the internet and the online easy ability to listen to thoughtful and informative hosts like Denis Prager, Michael Medved and others.

  37. Fortunately, Just In arrives Just In Time to preserve the hypocracy andand denial of the liberal effete elites.

  38. Actually, Quebec could open up the St. Lawrence valley for oil and gas drilling. But they won’t [precisely for self same ideological reasons. Let them freeze in the dark.

  39. You are entirely incorrect…..the Constitution does NOT stand in the way. While hydrocarbons and other resources are owned by the provinces, the transportation of them across a provincial line or internationally falls FULLY with the federal government. AND, the provincial or local governments CANNOT enact legislation that would frustrate federal government directive. In Canadian constitutional law, there is a concept known as “federal paramountcy”. This doctrine establishes that where there is a conflict between valid provincial and federal laws, the federal law will prevail and the provincial law will be INOPERATIVE to the extent that it conflicts with the federal law.
    Short answer…..the feds can order the pipeline to be built and there is nothing the provinces can do about it.

  40. I think an phrase that was popular 40 years ago might make a comeback: “Let the eastern bastards freeze in the dark!”

  42. I’m unsure how SDA participants can get hold of it, but I was just sent a copy of an on-line book by Sheila Gunn Reid, titled “The Destroyers: Rachael Notley and the NDP’s War on Alberta”. It came to me via e-mail as: thedestroyers-book.pdf
    From the outset, it’s an astounding indictment of governance in Alberta today and a frightening warning to anyone with investments in oil sands interests. From the little revelation of Rachel’s fondness for her Che Guevera wrist watch, to the sabotage of jobs and the provincial economy, it really is ‘must reading’ for anyone who cares about this country.

  43. I downloaded and read it a few days ago.
    What’s really scary is that many of the cabinet ministers seem to simply be there as window dressing. It appears that the major decisions are made by their staff, none of whom were elected to their positions.
    So much for vox populi.

  45. I do not know the answer. Best guess is that they get EI based on residence province. I suspect that you heard right about income tax. Any tax experts in the house?

  47. it is an old line but still appropriate, let the stupid bas tards freeze in the dark.

  48. There is irony here that is the silver lining.
    First, as oil and gas is the prime economic mover in this country, as the industry goes so goes the economy…..regardless of what Leisuresuit Larry defines as resourcefulness.
    Therein is the double edge sword of equalization. If the benefactors start putting up roadblocks and the economy of the paying provinces tanks, the benefactors become the payors.
    Second, the issue of the pipeline itself is about to put the liberals in a position that will force justin to make a decision. Doesn’t matter what the decision is, he avoids making them because of his one driving motivation to demonstrate how well loved he is and making a decision is the same as deconstructing that idea. But avoiding a decision will deconstruct another liberal construct they built up during the election, that justin was ready for the job…right now.
    Hang tight, things are about to get rough for the little ponce.

  49. E! Wers dat li’l fake “je suis un NDPiste guy” who use to be on ‘ere?
    E! NDPiste! You gots somet’ing to say ’bout dis, der? Or, maybe you give yourself udder fake name and face by now, eh?

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