The Radical Middle:“If you don’t want their votes, it’s because you don’t want to win.”
19 Replies to “Here, Tell These People Something They Don’t Know About Me”
But, but, but, they don’t count and nobody wants their votes.
“Voters in the radical middle, Newsweek wrote, “see the traditional political system itself as the country’s chief problem.””
Count me as a radical middle voter, then. Every 4 years or so us taxpaying peons get to choose which royal family plunders us next. There is no real choice, no real democracy for the people. The system has been crafted by lawyers and politicians to benefit lawyers and politicians. Enabled by a useless, gutless msm, I might add.
Trump will go away as soon as he has to kow-tow to party interests, he has yet to demonstrate the ability to put his own interests second. I don’t believe the powers that be would ever allow him to represent the Republican(TM) brand, anyways.
Maybe Trump is what the US needs right now, a $h*t disturber, he can afford it.
voters today are very ignorant of what makes an economy run. their primary concern is what any one running for office will take from someone else and give to them.
The MSM knows nothing about America that hasn’t been exaggerated, in the past, by themselves. They are eating their own Turds.
Trump will only be defeated if someone overtakes him or he quits, it could be said that the Republican party should drop out of the Presidential race.
NOTE:
The Unions declared War on Trump (Texas border Visit) and Trump knows it. The individual rights, Freedom of Assembly, Whistle blower laws, will be used to decertify corrupt UNIONS… Will all Public unions refuse to take part in any Political appearance? NOT LIKELY!
Right, we see it here in Ontario and Alberta. Looking at Quebec,in perpetual have not status as well as the Atlantic provinces, it’s all about let somebody else work, that’s the deal with Equalization. Equalization should be abolished, let the provinces be more fiscally responsible, live within their means.
Whats with all the trump bashing?
The guy speaks his mind he is honest and tells the truth,no he is not eloquent like ted cruz (who i support as well) And he is right on alot of social issues. As for economics i think he has more knowledge and intelligence than 90% of the people in office in the usaright now. He has had several businesses go under , yet he has been able to rise out of it all, he is a fighter, He loves america.
He knows how to run a business and i think his failures have made him even more savvy i don’t understand why people continually say he doesn’t know economics he graduated from one of the best economic schools in america with high grades.
He may have had a silver spoon from his dad but he still understands american economics.
He is the only one talking about illegals for oil with mexico and eliminating the trade deficit with china and so many of the commenters on here call him stupid or a putz or what ever you want.
Is it because he donated money to the democrats? He answered why …he needed a building built in new york he played the game….i admire that.He is a second amendment supporter.
Is it because he doesn’t get involved in all the pomp and pageantry of the establishment squishy middle? Good i dont want that i want a hard right candidate.
Remember he will need a running mate and i think Cruz,Walker,West,Palin. would all real him in on the 1st amendment and a few other things. Trump is a guy who i think can work well with others.
I have no problem with Cruz,West,or Walker being president either but they need to step up their game trump has stated his intentions we know where he stands.
For goodness sake Romney is still a contender i think that is insane great guy would make a good president but undetectable. people are sick and tired you half of america on food stamps and the other half paying for it it’s ridiculous america is divided on almost every issue Obama and bush and Clinton have created this mess along with carter and bush the first.
Right now i would vote Trump/Cruz. I think he is just the right amount of a$$hole to put america back in front on the world stage instead of flying to egypt on an ass kissing tour he would go there and kick some ass where his foreign policy is weak Cruz would pick up the slack.
I like Trump.
I agree liz J
The average voter doesn’t realize that Peter and Paul are the same person. The government is the middle man taking an ever greater slice of the transaction (i.e. robbing Peter to pay Paul).
“voters today are very ignorant of what makes an economy run.”
Amen! The average guy is clueless about the process of taxation. Every time you hear someone use the term “free money”, you know you are face to face with colossal ignorance.
The sad thing is, this “radical middle” could easily be writing the political script, but prefers to say/and do nothing during the inter-electoral periods…and even during elections it limits its political contributions to an X – and then walks away and pisses and moans for another four years. There isn’t too much radical about the silent (should be italicized) majority.
So, by its laziness/cowardice, its net contribution to maintaining a robust economy and stable society is as abysmal as the works of the Ignoramuses…with a lot less of an excuse. I can understand stupidity and ignorance – laziness and cowardice are harder to accept.
“There are two Republican parties, an elite party of the corporate upper crust and meritocratic winners that sits atop a mass party of whites without college degrees whose worldviews and experiences and ambitions could not be more different from their social and economic betters.”
Notice how even in this article, the writer cannot resist parading out the tired stereotype of grassroots Republicans as uneducated white underachievers. Message to our youth – “You don’t want to become one of THOSE people, do you? All the BEST people are over here.” It keeps new voters focused on the party images painted by the media, rather than the actual policies of those seeking their votes. And notice how true accomplishments, as shown by Trump, Romney, Palin, and at one time McCain, is viewed as a negative, while false accomplishment, such as “editing”, but not actually writing anything, for the Harvard Law Review, is heralded loudly. Window dressing over Reality.
And Liz J, thank you for your comments about Equalization. Honestly, if I had a choice between abolishing the Senate and abolishing Equalization, I would choose the latter, for the health of Canada. While the idea of SOME wealth redistribution is supported by most, it already happens with personal and corporate income tax. By the time those forms are filled out, Alberta and Saskatchewan have already paid more than their fair share. EQ payments are a second layer of welfare that we simply do not need. If you want to redistribute wealth, simply use the graduated Income Tax system for people and businesses that we already have, rather than placing a whole new layer of welfare onto us – one that is far less transparent than income tax. (Don’t get me wrong – I am not a huge fan of Income Tax, but I do not see it as hamstringing successful AND unsuccessful economies nearly as much as EQ payments.)
“What’s with all the Trump bashing?”
Well, the fact that his continual existence in the race just about guarantees one horrendous thing:
President Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton
And somehow Jeb Bush won’t? It is to laugh.
Didn’t say that but Trump’s also hinted at third party running. Perhaps one needs a refresher on how Ross Perot gave the WH to Bill Clinton?
“Every 4 years or so us taxpaying peons get to choose which royal family plunders us next. There is no real choice, no real democracy for the people. The system has been crafted by lawyers and politicians to benefit lawyers and politicians.”
In other words the US is ruled by an unelected Politburo in order to protect the interests of the nomenklatura.
Sean instead of that why not get behind him. Trump Cruz,West,Palin, Lots of good candidates why cant the right just unite to get behind one and right now Trump has Everyone scared by everyone i mean the establishment, and if Cruz and him ran on a ticket it would be a lock or Cruz/West.
Dont worry about third party rumors we just had a national rumor about abolishing the senate…all bs and i am sure Trump will stay as a republican until they kick him out if they do that i be Cruz and west and others will join him and again would probably win.
On the flip side if hillary or bernie get in America will be finished and that is that. So far gone already another lame duck progressive president and america will be at war with itself and everyone else.
I agree entirely with “first timer”, that even when trying to write a sympathetic article, so many in the media are still dripping with scorn for the ranks of the unwashed, the “whites without college degrees” – the old canard so often applied to what we used to think of as ordinary people.
The fact is, the number of persons without a college degree of some kind is a tiny minority. Credentialism and nearly universal access to education loans has lead to the expectation that even basic office work requires a post-secondary education. I know that among scores of my peers in high school, I am perhaps the only one who didn’t get at least a college diploma. I can say from experience that it takes a tremendous amount of energy and effort to be successful without a degree – so very few people try it. The uneducated are either the chronic underachievers – in which case they take no part whatever in the “radical middle”, since they are entirely dependent on government handouts – or else they form part of a tiny cadre of hardened entrepreneurs, in which case it would be foolish to be dismissive of them.
The author of this piece, Mr. Continetti, has an undergraduate History degree. So what. The fact is, that whatever you call them, the “radical middle”, the great mass of ordinary, unassuming Americans that this journalist writes of so dismissively are likely just as well-educated as he is.
I find this a tiresome quality of apologists for the left: they believe that their world view is so obviously superior that only stupid or uneducated persons could possibly have a different point of view.
I remember a conversation in which an ardent socialist asked me “what’s your IQ?” When I told her, she replied “That’s impossible! If you really were that smart, you wouldn’t be a conservative.”
The problem, Chris, is not about education or IQ – it’s the ability to do things. How much use to society is someone with a Phd and a 200 IQ that doesn’t know how to tie his own shoes?
I’m sure that there were tons of really smart cavemen … that couldn’t start a fire, that, died faster than those that could start one (even the stupid ones).
Reality and Mother Nature is particularly hard on those that are purposefully idealist and ignorant – tell your friend.
“The radical middle is attracted to populists, outsiders, businessmen such as Perot and Lee Iacocca who have never held office, and to anyone, according to Newsweek, who is the “tribune of anti-insider discontent”
The article emphasises personality.
What voters want is for the issues that they care about, which are being ignored by the PC crowd both Left and ostensibly Right, to be addressed to the satisfaction of these voters
What we are seeing is the MSM and competing candidates making the issue about personality again and again to distract and detract from the policy issues which voters care about.
This article is no different. It makes the issue all about personality and not about the policy.
But, but, but, they don’t count and nobody wants their votes.
“Voters in the radical middle, Newsweek wrote, “see the traditional political system itself as the country’s chief problem.””
Count me as a radical middle voter, then. Every 4 years or so us taxpaying peons get to choose which royal family plunders us next. There is no real choice, no real democracy for the people. The system has been crafted by lawyers and politicians to benefit lawyers and politicians. Enabled by a useless, gutless msm, I might add.
Trump will go away as soon as he has to kow-tow to party interests, he has yet to demonstrate the ability to put his own interests second. I don’t believe the powers that be would ever allow him to represent the Republican(TM) brand, anyways.
Maybe Trump is what the US needs right now, a $h*t disturber, he can afford it.
voters today are very ignorant of what makes an economy run. their primary concern is what any one running for office will take from someone else and give to them.
The MSM knows nothing about America that hasn’t been exaggerated, in the past, by themselves. They are eating their own Turds.
Trump will only be defeated if someone overtakes him or he quits, it could be said that the Republican party should drop out of the Presidential race.
NOTE:
The Unions declared War on Trump (Texas border Visit) and Trump knows it. The individual rights, Freedom of Assembly, Whistle blower laws, will be used to decertify corrupt UNIONS… Will all Public unions refuse to take part in any Political appearance? NOT LIKELY!
Right, we see it here in Ontario and Alberta. Looking at Quebec,in perpetual have not status as well as the Atlantic provinces, it’s all about let somebody else work, that’s the deal with Equalization. Equalization should be abolished, let the provinces be more fiscally responsible, live within their means.
Whats with all the trump bashing?
The guy speaks his mind he is honest and tells the truth,no he is not eloquent like ted cruz (who i support as well) And he is right on alot of social issues. As for economics i think he has more knowledge and intelligence than 90% of the people in office in the usaright now. He has had several businesses go under , yet he has been able to rise out of it all, he is a fighter, He loves america.
He knows how to run a business and i think his failures have made him even more savvy i don’t understand why people continually say he doesn’t know economics he graduated from one of the best economic schools in america with high grades.
He may have had a silver spoon from his dad but he still understands american economics.
He is the only one talking about illegals for oil with mexico and eliminating the trade deficit with china and so many of the commenters on here call him stupid or a putz or what ever you want.
Is it because he donated money to the democrats? He answered why …he needed a building built in new york he played the game….i admire that.He is a second amendment supporter.
Is it because he doesn’t get involved in all the pomp and pageantry of the establishment squishy middle? Good i dont want that i want a hard right candidate.
Remember he will need a running mate and i think Cruz,Walker,West,Palin. would all real him in on the 1st amendment and a few other things. Trump is a guy who i think can work well with others.
I have no problem with Cruz,West,or Walker being president either but they need to step up their game trump has stated his intentions we know where he stands.
For goodness sake Romney is still a contender i think that is insane great guy would make a good president but undetectable. people are sick and tired you half of america on food stamps and the other half paying for it it’s ridiculous america is divided on almost every issue Obama and bush and Clinton have created this mess along with carter and bush the first.
Right now i would vote Trump/Cruz. I think he is just the right amount of a$$hole to put america back in front on the world stage instead of flying to egypt on an ass kissing tour he would go there and kick some ass where his foreign policy is weak Cruz would pick up the slack.
I like Trump.
I agree liz J
The average voter doesn’t realize that Peter and Paul are the same person. The government is the middle man taking an ever greater slice of the transaction (i.e. robbing Peter to pay Paul).
“voters today are very ignorant of what makes an economy run.”
Amen! The average guy is clueless about the process of taxation. Every time you hear someone use the term “free money”, you know you are face to face with colossal ignorance.
The sad thing is, this “radical middle” could easily be writing the political script, but prefers to say/and do nothing during the inter-electoral periods…and even during elections it limits its political contributions to an X – and then walks away and pisses and moans for another four years. There isn’t too much radical about the silent (should be italicized) majority.
So, by its laziness/cowardice, its net contribution to maintaining a robust economy and stable society is as abysmal as the works of the Ignoramuses…with a lot less of an excuse. I can understand stupidity and ignorance – laziness and cowardice are harder to accept.
“There are two Republican parties, an elite party of the corporate upper crust and meritocratic winners that sits atop a mass party of whites without college degrees whose worldviews and experiences and ambitions could not be more different from their social and economic betters.”
Notice how even in this article, the writer cannot resist parading out the tired stereotype of grassroots Republicans as uneducated white underachievers. Message to our youth – “You don’t want to become one of THOSE people, do you? All the BEST people are over here.” It keeps new voters focused on the party images painted by the media, rather than the actual policies of those seeking their votes. And notice how true accomplishments, as shown by Trump, Romney, Palin, and at one time McCain, is viewed as a negative, while false accomplishment, such as “editing”, but not actually writing anything, for the Harvard Law Review, is heralded loudly. Window dressing over Reality.
And Liz J, thank you for your comments about Equalization. Honestly, if I had a choice between abolishing the Senate and abolishing Equalization, I would choose the latter, for the health of Canada. While the idea of SOME wealth redistribution is supported by most, it already happens with personal and corporate income tax. By the time those forms are filled out, Alberta and Saskatchewan have already paid more than their fair share. EQ payments are a second layer of welfare that we simply do not need. If you want to redistribute wealth, simply use the graduated Income Tax system for people and businesses that we already have, rather than placing a whole new layer of welfare onto us – one that is far less transparent than income tax. (Don’t get me wrong – I am not a huge fan of Income Tax, but I do not see it as hamstringing successful AND unsuccessful economies nearly as much as EQ payments.)
“What’s with all the Trump bashing?”
Well, the fact that his continual existence in the race just about guarantees one horrendous thing:
President Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton
And somehow Jeb Bush won’t? It is to laugh.
Didn’t say that but Trump’s also hinted at third party running. Perhaps one needs a refresher on how Ross Perot gave the WH to Bill Clinton?
“Every 4 years or so us taxpaying peons get to choose which royal family plunders us next. There is no real choice, no real democracy for the people. The system has been crafted by lawyers and politicians to benefit lawyers and politicians.”
In other words the US is ruled by an unelected Politburo in order to protect the interests of the nomenklatura.
Sean instead of that why not get behind him. Trump Cruz,West,Palin, Lots of good candidates why cant the right just unite to get behind one and right now Trump has Everyone scared by everyone i mean the establishment, and if Cruz and him ran on a ticket it would be a lock or Cruz/West.
Dont worry about third party rumors we just had a national rumor about abolishing the senate…all bs and i am sure Trump will stay as a republican until they kick him out if they do that i be Cruz and west and others will join him and again would probably win.
On the flip side if hillary or bernie get in America will be finished and that is that. So far gone already another lame duck progressive president and america will be at war with itself and everyone else.
I agree entirely with “first timer”, that even when trying to write a sympathetic article, so many in the media are still dripping with scorn for the ranks of the unwashed, the “whites without college degrees” – the old canard so often applied to what we used to think of as ordinary people.
The fact is, the number of persons without a college degree of some kind is a tiny minority. Credentialism and nearly universal access to education loans has lead to the expectation that even basic office work requires a post-secondary education. I know that among scores of my peers in high school, I am perhaps the only one who didn’t get at least a college diploma. I can say from experience that it takes a tremendous amount of energy and effort to be successful without a degree – so very few people try it. The uneducated are either the chronic underachievers – in which case they take no part whatever in the “radical middle”, since they are entirely dependent on government handouts – or else they form part of a tiny cadre of hardened entrepreneurs, in which case it would be foolish to be dismissive of them.
The author of this piece, Mr. Continetti, has an undergraduate History degree. So what. The fact is, that whatever you call them, the “radical middle”, the great mass of ordinary, unassuming Americans that this journalist writes of so dismissively are likely just as well-educated as he is.
I find this a tiresome quality of apologists for the left: they believe that their world view is so obviously superior that only stupid or uneducated persons could possibly have a different point of view.
I remember a conversation in which an ardent socialist asked me “what’s your IQ?” When I told her, she replied “That’s impossible! If you really were that smart, you wouldn’t be a conservative.”
The problem, Chris, is not about education or IQ – it’s the ability to do things. How much use to society is someone with a Phd and a 200 IQ that doesn’t know how to tie his own shoes?
I’m sure that there were tons of really smart cavemen … that couldn’t start a fire, that, died faster than those that could start one (even the stupid ones).
Reality and Mother Nature is particularly hard on those that are purposefully idealist and ignorant – tell your friend.
“The radical middle is attracted to populists, outsiders, businessmen such as Perot and Lee Iacocca who have never held office, and to anyone, according to Newsweek, who is the “tribune of anti-insider discontent”
The article emphasises personality.
What voters want is for the issues that they care about, which are being ignored by the PC crowd both Left and ostensibly Right, to be addressed to the satisfaction of these voters
What we are seeing is the MSM and competing candidates making the issue about personality again and again to distract and detract from the policy issues which voters care about.
This article is no different. It makes the issue all about personality and not about the policy.