SDA commentor, “nick”.
Bravo, Mr. Glavin. “So what lessons have we learned?” Well, this shameful episode upon which you report—the “Knowing what we know now…?” gambit—has shown us that the political and chattering classes, left, right and otherwise, pose a greater danger to us than do the savages. The threats, of course, are different. To the savages we might lose our heads, and that would be rather inconvenient. To the professional talkers, we lose our minds. How are we—those of us busy living the lives of ordinary people—supposed to understand how the world works when the commentariat upon which we depend for information is so ineffectual and/or corrupt? Where oh where (present company excepted) are those who remember that the WMD threat was one of twenty-some reasons for invading Iraq, and far down the list in importance? Where are those who noticed that caches of WMD were found in Iraq. Where are those who ask where Assad got his WMD, and remember in the asking the stories of Russian Spetsnaz troops carting WMD out of Iraq into Syria and Lebanon?
In the place where facts and understanding should be, we have instead this idiotic question and its presumption that the Iraq adventure had to fail. It did not. That failure took considerable effort from the ruling classes. Let’s remember to give them the credit.
What have we learned? We should have learned, again, that these a$$holes will say anything to promote their cause, and that their cause is always themselves. (Case in point: The idiot Rand Paul now says that ISIS was caused by GOP hawks. What purpose do you think this idiocy is intended to promote? Truth? Knowledge?)
In this regard, it may be worth remembering that the rights of free speech and of the press exist to protect and promote knowledge. When the press and the politician’s purpose is instead to make you stupid, why should their speech be protected?
“Good. At last one of them has understood.” Lord Rayden, Mortal Kombat.
The Mooselimbs are a side show. The true battle is with the Lefties.
The idiot Rand Paul
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Appears to be following in his loony fathers foot steps.
Imagine a world where the press reported on political candidates fairly and honestly, in great detail. No longer would politicians have to be rich and/or well financed.
This and this..
Nick. Nails. It.
why should their speech be protected?
Free speech is protected (1st Ammendment, US only). Including the right to lie.
“why should their speech be protected?”
It’s not protected from being ignored, shut off, ridiculed, or refuted.
In this regard, it may be worth remembering that the rights of free speech and of the press exist to protect and promote knowledge. When the press and the politician’s purpose is instead to make you stupid, why should their speech be protected?
Because we have no fool-proof method of discerning right from wrong, so we must accept all opinions and leave it to the listener decide what is worthy.
Rabbit: Two thumbs up!
The left would be smart to learn the lessons of the Afghan communists…..long since extinct…..
The left has clandestinely built their FEMA trains and camps for us but that will be their destiny if the mooselimbs win. Mooselimbs are only political for personal power…..Saddam and Mo (piss be upon him) were indentical politically……..actually as the Aghan black turbines opined “Allah made some rich and some poor….”
As Rush Limbaugh recently said, these ‘if you knew then what you know now’ questions are only asked of Republicans. Journalists never ask for instance ‘if you knew then what you know now, would you have supported Obamacare’.
Rand Paul an IDIOT, now that has to “hurt” some of our resident lieberaltarians. And yes, he’s a stupid as his old man. lieberaltarians think that one can exist in a social vacuum, failing to understand that there is no such thing
How I long to see some Republican, on hearing such a question, reply thusly: “you may as well ask, ‘if unicorns were real, would you have invaded Iraq?’ because your question includes the same sort of impossibility.”
“The Mooselimbs are a side show. The true battle is with the Lefties.”
You got that right.
That lady nick doth protest too much, me thinks.
He picks and spins the facts he wants then puts them in the order that suits his fancy. From there, he mounts his high horse to prance around hoping nobody notices that his “all-knowing” narrative is a load of bunk.
You can pencil me in as being totally unimpressed with this rant.
Philosophically, I am a Libertarian. To me state, and government, is a necessary evil. But that is philosophy. Practical politics and history demonstrates power abhors a vacumn and if the good guys don’t fill it, the bad guys will. And the bad guys are not libertarians; they are usually statists, or otherwise totalitarian. No friends of libertarians.
I think that most empires have been formed accidentally, not deliberately, through the ambition of individuals or the necessity to control the barbarians outside who wish to pillage and destroy.
Therefore, on foreign policy, I think Paul is being naïve and idealistic. The US needs to maintain an activist foreign policy and presence just to keep the barbarians at bay.
I find if funny, how there is still intelligent people out there, that think in terms of left right. When in fact its always been about divide and concur.Capitalism died a hundred years ago, what we have now can only be described as fascist corporatism. Deals made behind closed doors, like the TPP, are written by the corporations. Made illegal to release any info on it, punishable by prison.Fast tracked through the congress by the republicans.
People are so ignorantly brainwashed they no longer understand what capitalism is. In the past before we had income tax. We would tax countries like china (this paid for or roads and schools). They use their spy’s to steal our intellectual property, slave labor, manipulate their currency, and pollute where ever they want. It was said that it would be economic suicide to compete with them, for capitalism to operate it needs rules. Today the useful idiots think in terms of this guy is better then the other. This is why this corrupt system continues indefinitely.