No longer welcome at Thompson Rivers University…
“We were trying to convey the existence of an aboriginal industry that has developed around the huge amounts of money that are being transferred in the interests of native people and are intercepted by a whole layer of people, the largest component of which is the legal element,” he said.
“Aboriginal people today are living in poverty…lawyers are making a fortune in keeping them there — keeping them in need of their services and the services of other people in the industry.”
Howard said he was approached by some students who appreciated his perspective, but the law students that spoke to the CBC felt differently.
h/t Kevin B.
Link borked. Here’s the one I found. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/albert-howard-and-frances-widdowson-won-t-be-invited-back-to-tru-after-reckless-comments-1.2948167
That being said. Having two white folks saying that the natives are being ripped off by lawyers definitely didn’t sit well with, *ahem* law students. I wonder how many wanted to “help” the natives.
we should shut down indian affairs or whatever name they are calling that particular bureaucracy these days. no more money to tribes or band councils. if we must give money to Indians then I would suggest a modest tax free pension to all natives over the age of 18 years. pay this directly to the individual and only to those whose permanent residence is on reserve property. we could save billions of dollars and give the individual person responsibility for the income. waste it you starve and have no one to blame but yourself. spend it wisely and prosper. no more middle man, no more huge bureaucracy in Ottawa, no more chiefs funneling hunders of thousands into their pockets and leaving their people with nothing.
hundreds.
The native community is no different than much of Canadian society. Their exploitation by ‘friendly’ forces is well established and has existed since reservations were formed. Accountability has been almost non existent. It is only with Harper’s efforts for band fiscal reporting that change is being attempted.
When there is a gravy train in whatever aspect of life don’t be surprised when pigs actually show up. When you have no particular skills and you want to make your way simply spout disadvantage to those who will listen as you pick their pockets. Again this is not limited to the native community.
Watch the next federal election. Many might be shocked at how corrupt the Canadian society actually is. Socialism under Turdeau will do well. That said he is only a reflection of those who want something for nothing.
Re- students offended by inconvenient truth – we can witness the eclipse of civil society/free culture/knowledge at an accelerated rate by watching campus politics.
As for the Aboriginal “industry” there must be something horribly wrong when the billions spent and the years of welfare have done nothing to alleviate reserve poverty. Low accountability on Aboriginal management side and low expectation from the federal side have created the situation but it is , as always, perverse left wing politics which prevent a solution.
No one benefits more from the plight of mismanaged reserves like left wing politicos and agitators, they are a big part of the “Aboriginal industry” – if there were a solution to appear tomorrow it would be rejected by the left because it threatens their sinecure as professional worriers.
“entirely inconsistent with the views of this faculty”
Could be more enlightening if they had said:
entirely inconsistent with the views of this rent seeking faculty
and Aboriginal industry rent seekers in general.
Hello Bob Rae.
” A well-known local law firm that handled more than half of all trials and appeals concerning Indian residential schools is in a legal battle of its own with the Canadian Government.”
http://globalnews.ca/news/1804029/merchant-law-group-in-legal-battle-of-its-own/
CT – quite true. A welfare ghetto is a welfare ghetto. Once one gains the feeling of entitlement, and the feelings of uselessness that welfare inevitably brings, the bottom feeders will line up to “help” you.
from one of the links:
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/canada/british-columbia/albert-howard-and-frances-widdowson-won-t-be-invited-back-to-tru-after-reckless-comments-1.2948167
At 3:45 – so criticising corrupt lawyers is “hate speech”?
7:48 on the other hand “absolutely in support of complete freedom of speech”?
The Merchant Law Group billed for work never done on the residential school issue? Impossible. Merchant is a big time Liberal and liberals would never do anything dishonest.
Incidentally 2.6 billion has been paid out in compensation and legal fees for natives attending residential schools.
I wonder what the next make work project for lawyers will look like?
“we can witness the eclipse of civil society/free culture/knowledge at an accelerated rate by watching campus politics.” Exactly. This is exactly what is happening. Stalin’s fifth column has done its work well and this has become more apparent in recent years. They do not even try to hide it anymore.
CT, “Watch the next federal election. Many might be shocked at how corrupt the Canadian society actually is. Socialism under Turdeau will do well.” Trudeau’s aim is a Cuba and Venezuela north.
I’m sure everyone has seen the following.
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2015/02/20150206-203411.html
And while you are on the Sun Website, the poll there currently needs some help.
nold pondered “I wonder what the next make work project for lawyers will look like?”
It will look like the missing aboriginal women inquiry the progs and their orc minions are clamoring to have held.
The RCMP have determined the causes of so many women going missing or suffering violence are within their own first nations, but you can’t say that.
Besides inquiries make work for rich lawyers.
Ken,
So far have not heard one politician to tell the drama queen to go and suck a lemon, to tell the liberal socialists that there, in fact, will not be a price on carbon and will do their damnest best to stop any attempt on such.
You think there is such politicians?
The lawfirms of CROOK,THEIF,SCOUNDREL,FIEND and CAD and their 99% for the lawyer 1% for the cliant
It has already started – the Merchant Law Group is collecting names for individuals ‘harmed’ in the scoop (when Indian kids were adopted out), with the suggestion that these kids were sexually, physically and emotionally abused by their adopted families. Don’t know how valid any of it is, but for sure there will be another lineup of people looking to cash in even if they had the best experience in the world. No reference to the standards of the day (when most kids were strapped or slapped by their parents or corporal punishment was common in all schools not just residential schools).
“The native community is no different than much of Canadian society.”
Dead on, CT.
Doesn’t matter if it’s Indians, industries, farmers,or enviro-parasites – the ones with the connections are first in line and get the biggest handouts.
The more money they give to reserves, the worse off they are. The more money they give to provinces, the worse off they are. Do we detect a pattern? Giving humans something for nothing turns them into useless, self-entitled, shells of their former selves. I am unsure there is even any room for debate. The science is settled.
Happen to drive yesterday through native territory, west of Calgary.
Highway 1 was clogged with some vehicles situation.
It was impossible not to notice the garbage strewn wherever you looked, acres and acres of untended land. Every branch of bush and tree had a plastic bag or a piece of paper hanging from it.
The natives will constantly say that they are the ones with nature and theirs is sacred ground.
Well, sacred ground looks pretty messy. You may thing that you are driving through a dump.
One can guess that they did not get some cash for cleanup.
Some bottom feeders should be right on it.
“The RCMP have determined the causes of so many women going missing or suffering violence are within their own first nations” Noel
Sure sounds like a slam dunk Class Action law suit against deliberate Governmental dysfunction. The rank & file Indians have been systematically converted from 16th century Savages to 21st century Savages.
Hard to see any distiction between the way in which aid dollars are handled by the Canadian aboriginals and the African ‘governments’ who siphon off substantial sums before the aid dollars reach the target.
Every aboriginal over 18 has either a SIN or other identifier to allow individuals to receive funds directly. Any other method of distribution – if at all – is just plain STUPID!
Nothing is so unwelcome as the glaringly obvious to the willfully blind.
I just LOVE how CBC never fails to present both sides of a story!
In this case, after the original interview with the perpetrators of this racist hate speech, they interview ONLY law students and a lawyer /activist who represents Indians.
Said lawyer claims the remarks are “hate speech”!
And,as always,NO rebuttal or dissenting opinion from a third party.
“Two academics from Calgary have been told they won’t be invited back to Thompson Rivers University after some students felt the comments they made at the Trending Now: #NewLaw conference on Aboriginal law were offensive and inappropriate.”
Because the students obviously know more than professors who have studied the issues for many years.
“Some students felt the content insinuated First Nations people take advantage of government funding.”
If there was ever a pot.kettle.black situation, this is it.
“‘They used it to their advantage to say some reckless things that are not only entirely inconsistent with the views of this faculty but I feel unacceptable to society at large,’ conference organizer and TRU law student Elyse Bouer told Daybreak Kamloops.”
Nothing is “unacceptable to society to large”. Things can only be unacceptable to individuals. Don’t put words in other people’s mouths.
“‘I found that one rather strange thing was that we kept being assured of how accepting they were of a wide range of views, open discussion — how they welcomed a range of opinions and freedom of speech and so on, and I thought, I take that for granted at any Canadian university contemporarily,’ [Howard] said.”
Welcome dissenting opinions? Not where there are “speech codes”, they don’t.
Now that they aren’t permitted to speak, would it not be worth it for Howard and Widdowson to post their slideshow somewhere? The casual CBCtards won’t come across it, but at least it will solidify their side of the story.