The multiculturalist platitude goes like this: Europeans in the past had colonies and aboriginal peoples lost their culture. Now, as retribution, westerners are supposed to disavow their own culture and “accept and respect” other cultures instead.
But countless non-European cultures have had empires. Why doesn’t the p-c crowd demand the same punishment for them?
Further, how many generations must be punished for the sins of their fathers? If you read the academic literature, you’ll see that it is meant to continue until western culture is annihilated(*).
*With the notable exception of western academia.
Go to your nearest Indian reserve and they all dress like cowboys. I’ve never seen such insensitivity.
Just for giggles some time, engage a progressive west coast Social Justice Greenie type in a discussion about the ravages of the Tribal Slave Trade that dominated the West Coast Aboriginal economy prior to the British “colonization”.
They can’t even handle the concept that it could be true, that Aboriginals could be as nasty pricks as any other cultural group, that they lived in a quasi prehistoric state devoid numeracy, an alphabet, the wheel, or rudimentary metallurgy.
After they call you a Neanderthal racist for even entertaining such thoughts, is when I ask them if we should claim our language and technologies, which they appropriated without ever paying a penny in licensing fees, should be used as payment for land use rights.
Usually sends them right over the deep end.
The Persian Empire is still going albiet modernized with AK-47’s and Halal goat meat.
The Aztecs are still considered a superior race, even when tearing out bloody quivering hearts to feed the Sun god.
Arab’s still have slaves, but are more welcome in parts of the west than the Pope.
“That would be a pity, because the core idea of common-law cultures has always been this: People should be treated as individuals, not as members of groups. It’s a much more enlightened creed than the intolerant, race-obsessed fashion of political correctness.”
If Martin Luther King was still alive there would be nothing left of his arse-hole after the p-c crowd were done with him. Unfortunately with the p-c’s, a book is only a cover.
From Moe on the CTV article on the same topic “I am NOT Indigenous, Native nor aboriginal…I am A North American Blackfoot Indian, and proud of it. All our past grandfathers were also.Why are people calling us other names.? Too many other true Indians have turned white, therefore believing all these names are correct, they are NOT.”
The Blackfoot are apparently proud to be Indians per this website.
http://www.bigorrin.org/blackfoot_kids.htm
Explain to extinct inhabitants of European and Asian steppes why Genghis Khan’s empire was so beneficial.
Since he did a very good job of genocide there aren’t any left.
Mahmud Ghazni on the other hand was nothing like as efficient in India and is still reviled, I think he was a pre-Taliban Pashtun.
Re: the cheerleader – much ado about nothing as usual. Re: the offended – who is this broad to pretend to speak for aboriginal groups or peoples?
Like the French (just earlier), they got their butts kicked and lost. The French, however, were spared and lived on to become just another thorn in our sides. The ‘natives’ lost ‘their land’ because they had inferior firepower, but were given superior firewater. Hell, they likely had European roots as well according to something I read here a few weeks ago.
Throughout history, people have been in battles that they lost and had to relocate – or possibly get annihilated – and borders changed dramatically. It happens to this day (Crimea/Ukraine anyone?).
So to anyone offended by me or my statements – a giant raspberry to you!
Genghis Khan was efficient at eliminating enemies as well as “planting” his seeds.
So much so that there is a 0.5% chance that you are descended of Genghis Khan.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/08/1-in-200-men-direct-descendants-of-genghis-khan/#.UzIGkValr5M
Yeah the Normans should go back ta Norway…..from whence they came prior to seizing Normandy and then Britain.
Of course then, who gets Britain…..invaded by Celts, Romans, Angles(Danes), Saxons, Picts, Scots, Danes and Norwegians again,…..or Fwance, Germany, Italy…..Greece
Here in NA the Lakota/Dakota still claim the Black Hills as Ancestral land…although they originated somewhere in Minnesota…
S Africa’s Bantu(including the Zulu)originated during historical time from Nigeria/Congo….
Seems just about anywhere ya go everybody migrated from somewheres else….
“Go to your nearest Indian reserve and they all dress like cowboys. I’ve never seen such insensitivity.”
How about the natives who wear hip-hop gear? They should apologize profusely to Vanilla Ice and Macklemore!
“But countless non-European cultures have had empires. Why doesn’t the p-c crowd demand the same punishment for them?”
Easy back in the day “The Frankfurt School” realized that until the USA/Anglosphere was destroyed that socialism would never succeed…..as long as capitalism existed. Hence the left uses any excuse to punish the “capitalistic” west……those other empires (including the USSR) get a pass cause they were not the USA /Anglosphere.
Does that clarify yer fuzification?
My European-based Canadian culture is superior.
I love it and make no apologies.
The Indians were conquered but never assimilated. The resulting ghettos have marinated into grievance mongering centres. The multiculturalists are simply Stockholm Syndrome victims letting themselves become hostages of the guilt merchants of the Indian leadership and white pimp industry. Until they are assimilated that will not change.
Please don’t disturb suburban progressia in the throwes of a guilt orgy by urging them to reclaim their cultural self esteem oh no – guilt is drug for the comfy left.
The masked guy heckling and banging the drum at John Gormley during his talk at UofR. “You speakum with forked tongue.” That’s 1950’s Hollywood western talk. Is that the Indian culture of today? Something invented in the mind of a script writer? It has become pathetic. I was so excited when I first heard of “Idle No More.” I thought they were going to get off the couch and get a job. Not hardly.
This nonsense was predictable the first time any leader apologized for perceived wrongs done in the past. It should have been a simple “that was then and this is now. Get over it and get a life”. The reverse racism we have now has spawned our HRC kangaroo courts and is just creating a whole batch of new victims. Too many victims all around. The cure used to be common sense but the disease has grown resistant to that and only money seems to ease the suffering now. New victims paying the old victims. Common sense worked so much better. Thank a lawyer near you. Without victims neither they or HRC’s could survive and its in their best interest to keep the victim industry at full production.
the Arabs still have slaves…
The country with the largest estimated number of people in modern slavery is India, which is estimated to have between 13,300,000 and 14,700,000 people enslaved.
The country with the second highest absolute numbers of enslaved is China, with an estimated 2,800,000 to 3,100,000 in modern slavery.
Pakistan is third on the Index, … It is estimated that there are between 2,000,000 – 2,200,000 people in various forms of modern slavery in Pakistan.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/photos/countries-with-the-highest-number-of-slaves-slideshow/countries-with-the-highest-number-of-mordern-slaves-photo-1395644415470.html
File this under “Knowing your enemy”
Aboriginals could be as nasty pricks as any other cultural group, that they lived in a quasi prehistoric state…
They still are and they still do. Tribalism, nepotism, and corruption is endemic in most aboriginal communities. They consider it ‘traditional’, and therefore above reproach. Those who are related to Chief and Councilors live pretty good, the rest live in abject poverty like serfs. The aboriginals like to show pictures of those serfs and claim that the government doesn’t take care of them like the treaties say they should and therefore they want more money.
I refuse to ever call them ‘first nations’.
The Indian/Native /Aboriginal kids in the big cities should be alright.
They have expropriated the Negro/Black/African-American ghetto culture,and even have their own Injun hip-hop and rap performers.
Can’t see any downside to this as all them ghetto kids in the USA are millionaire rap and hippity-hop stars. They can afford the nicest hand guns that are way beyond my budget,so I know success when I see it.
I know this because I watch TV. Even CBC.
If it was the Persian Empire, I wouldn’t be so concerned because they would be a sane enemy. The muslims in control are a) extremely corrupt and cynical and b)insane.
They would go all-in on a game of pker with no pair.
The correct response is to loose several arrows into the front door; followed by deposition of a great steaming fresh buffalo chip on the front stoop.
Then the p-c crowd can get a very earthy feel for some ‘native culture’…
Idiocy knows no bounds and the culturally ‘verklempt’ sphincters running the p-c show at the Univ of Regina need to have their precious cage rattled.
I’ve worked alongside Blackfoot and Cree plains indians and they preferred being identified as Blackfoot or Cree rather than ‘native’, ‘aboriginal’, ‘indigenous’ or whatever the latest buzzword being bandied about.
From my own studies the Blackfoot and Cree were pretty hardy and adaptable in their time; and fierce warriors when pushed the wrong way. The most likely response from the Blackfoot and Cree to this ridiculous display of misplaced ‘cultural sensitivity training’ would be gales of laughter.
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Attawaskiput conditions were described as: No sanitation or windows. Fires in the home. No roads or schools … rather like it used to be: don’t they want their traditional culture or am I missing something?
Did anyone ask ANY professional whiner to speak for them? This arrogant presumption leftists have must be met with a fist to the throat.
Secondly, will hair shirts be provided for the usual enforced self-flagellation sessions?
Thirdly, cheerleaders. Not smart to begin with.
If four white guys can’t pay their respects by dressing up as the Jamaican bobsled team on Halloween, then they/we don’t have freedom of expression any more.
The left is attempting to destroy western culture by hammering away at “racism”, real or by now mostly imagined, until we concede defeat. Hypocrisy is their modus operandi, and we should throw it back in their faces.
Where do I send the bill for the appropriation of the social organization and technology of my culture?
One of the reasons the recently “privileged” northern Euro cultural types are not still chasing rats for lunch, living in mud huts and trying to kill the neighboring tribe, is because the Romans went on a colonizing binge in their northern territories – what did they ever give Europe, aside from law, order, philosophy, roads, economy, mathematics, plumbing, hygiene, textiles, medicine and wine??
Colonization, historically, has been a benefit to the host culture and any comparison to British North American colonization as anything other than reciprocal culture exchange is intellectually dishonest – the subversive left, who love to abominate the historic record, confuse reciprocatory colonization with hegemonic invasion – a fraudulent comparison which has the sole purpose of the radicalization/exploitation of indigenous groups in an overall plan to destroy merit-based culture norms.
Yes folks the old Bolshy magic that has been hollowing out weak cultures for a century is alive and well here in aboriginal identity politics
Robert L >
Vanilla Ice was the grandfather of Rap.
A whole host of peoples owe thier thanks to his cultural influence, especially the black music industry.
Indeed. LOL
Sorry there are far too many cultures through out history that have conquered or hurt other cultures so the Western/European/White culture must stand in for all and take the collective punishment.
Ah, Susanna Hofstra and those eyes…
In this instance the Natives are just useful idiots.
The reality is spiteful lesbian feminists hate pretty girls. The “cultural insensitivity” argument is just an excuse for the femo-haters to “put them in their place”.
When do we start the Cowboys and Muslims?
I thought Grandmaster Flash got there first?
nv53 >
“I thought Grandmaster Flash got there first?”
mmm sorry, I believe your mistaking “Grandmaster B” for someone else.
Grandmaster B although influential through the late 80’s and 90’s owes his Rap artistry to the ICE!
Some original Grandmaster B!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3Z2MlJLd24