Jewish control of the media is preventing an open discussion of the Holocaust, prominent Hollywood director Oliver Stone told the Sunday Times, adding that the U.S. Jewish lobby was controlling Washington’s foreign policy for years.
In the Sunday interview, Stone reportedly said U.S. public opinion was focused on the Holocaust as a result of the “Jewish domination of the media,” adding that an upcoming film of him aims to put Adolf Hitler and Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin “in context.”
The bats in his belfry are really fluttering around now. They kicked up a commotion when he was fixated on JFK, but now… They’re going crazy.
He’ll be in trouble now. Can’t insult them desert people.
I accept the Holocaust, in general, as fact. What does bother me is the outrage at any discussion actually being allowed to take place. I might question the accuracy of the 6 million number and I might question why, if the extermination policy was so pervasive, somewhere around 3 million survived to claim compensation from the German government, many surviving in camps for essentially the whole war.
While there may not be much to add to the story, essentially legislating the permitted truth is disturbing.
Hitler was an amatuer compared to the Soviets and possibly their successor, today’s Putin.
∞2 posted this yesterday in reader tips, but it is well worth posting again. Possibly the most important hour and a half I’ve spent on the computer in years!
http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/the-soviet-story-a-must-see-for-all-students-of-history-t13314.html
Here Oliver, let me put Stalin and Hitler in context for you. Both were mass-murdering megalomaniacs.
And Ollie replies: “…yes but BUSH!…”
The fear of criminal sanctions against questioning historical accounts has made me a devout believer in the Loch Ness Monster, the Trojan Horse, the Little Mermaid, and Sasquatch. One never knows what Scotland, Greece, Denmark or BC might criminalize.
If Ollie Stone needs a diagnosis may I offer up Batshit crazy and there’s no hope.
Oliver Stone is rehabilitating Hitler and Stalin?
Should I be looking for the Onion logo? No? That’s disturbing.
Maybe I’ll start a company selling survival kit and pre-packed bug-out bags. Growth industry, I’m thinking.
I guess Mel Gibson and him can Golf together.. BFF..
There is not a whole lot of room for anything outside of the official narrative on the Holocaust.. Deals were made and a lot of innocent people lost their lives.. The truth will not set us free in this case.. Its a prison cell.. Care to enter?
If you’ve ever seen Stone and his Buddy Jesse Ventura together doing an interview, you are looking at “crazy” and “crazier”.
Both those guys buy into every conspiracy theory extant,and have invented a few new ones them selves.
There were over 300 concentration camps run by the NAZIS, not just a few the public are aware of from the movies, Bergen-Belsen,Auschwitz,Treblinka,Sobibor,Maidanek,etc, but THREE HUNDRED.
My Dad was in the RCASC, he delivered troops and supplies to the camps when the British Army entered Germany. It was no myth, Pa saw it up close and personal,as they say.
I wish Oliver Stone would turn his talents to making porn movies where his talents would be greatly appreciated.
People will believe whatever propaganda furthers their preconceived notions.
History is more objective than ‘what if’ extrapolations to fulfill someone’s agenda.
Rummel defines democide as “the murder of any person or people by a government, including genocide, politicide, and mass murder” Some examples of democide cited by Rummel include the Great Purges carried out by Joseph Stalin in the Soviet Union, the deaths from the colonial policy in the Congo Free State, and Mao Zedong’s Great Leap Forward, which resulted in a famine killing millions of people.
Revisionist history can and usually does apply to every war ever fought. Winners always write the books and losers will never find a publisher until several decades pass. We may not agree with whatever Oliver Stone comes up with, but it’s his research, his money and his reputation on the line. To say the Jewish subject is taboo is the kind of political correctness that doesn’t belong in a free country. The same kind of political correctness that disallows saying or writing anything negative about Muslims or the gay culture. There are usually 2 sides to a story and after almost 70 years we should be able to handle his opinion (or facts) to the other side. He’ll probably lose his shirt on it anyway as 90% of todays movie going audience is probably clueless on Hitler, Stalin and the Holocaust. Good HBO project and I doubt if the main theatre chains would even be interested.
6.7 million Jews slaughtered, out of a possible 20 total. Us gypies had a much higher statistical death ratio, at about 92%. But the real problem is that other than the 6 million Jews, we never hear about the gays, the Polish, the fellow traveler Germans, Russians…..Yup, the Jews do control the narrative and that’s why they took over Hollywood, just so they could. Having said that I doubt they control USA foreign policy. Jews are survivors and will do what is needed to survive, as would most ppl.
scar…. my father got out of the C-camp in the middle of the war. As a dark skinned and short individual in a land of tall blonds it always puzzled me, but my father never spoke about it.
And Oliver Stone…..yah you guessed it, another dimwitted far lefty Joo!!!
biggest mass murderers in history
61,911,000 The Soviet Gulag State
35,236,000 The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
20,946,000 The Nazi Genocide State
10,214,000 The Depraved Nationalist Regime
5,964,000 Japan’s Savage Military
2,035,000 The Khmer Rouge Hell State
1,883,000 Turkey’s Genocidal Purges
1,670,000 The Vietnamese War State
1,585,000 Poland’s Ethnic Cleansing
Suspected
1,663,000 Orwellian North Korea
1,417,000 Barbarous Mexico
1,066,000 Feudal Russia
Source:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091015102513AAVklLq
Someone who believes that sons should be blamed for the sins of their fathers and grandfathers, would be a hypocrite to shop at MalWart.
“He’ll probably lose his shirt on it anyway as 90% of todays movie going audience is probably clueless on Hitler, Stalin and the Holocaust.”
Excellent comment Pete. But it will be that very ignorance that is used to enforce the censorship and shut-down such discussion. But I will skip the film anyway, simply because I do not like Stone’s directing style. He has become a self-winding parody of himself.
The Third Reich wanted slaves to build it’s war machine, and creating the untermench was the easy way to get the people to go along with it.
As an identifiable group the Jews were doing better than most in post-war Germany, and stealing from the rich is always an effective way to finance a war.
I have a friend who also has Gypsy parents who escaped by the skin of their teeth, not that they had many left after their stay with the Nazis. Some of the stories relayed to me raise the hair on my neck just thinking about them. I hope yer Paw got to spend lots of quality time here in Canada, or somewhere free, to make up for the horrors he surely endured.
Stone is your typical “progressive”: a brute who is paranoid and brimming with hate.
“Stone’s comments to the Sunday times echo previous remarks by the Hollywood director, regarding what he perceives as the distorted view of figures such as Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin in U.S. media”.
Who’s distorted views should I take on the atrocities of Stalin, Oliver Stone or Malcolm Muggeridge . . . Oliver Stone or Malcolm Muggeridge? Hmmmm, such a difficult decision here.
Given that Hollywood is in the business of distorting reality, seeing two prominent distorters arguing over how mush distortion is acceptable is akin to watching two hookers arguing over which one has sold their virginity/dignity out for a higher purpose.
Obamba’s getting a pretty healthy murder record as well. He’s even bragged about his killing ability with drone strikes.
I suppose stuffing them tight in gas chambers is worse than dropping a few bombs and imploding their countries, but the end results are more or less the same. A millions dead here or there, whatever.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/4/obama-brag-new-book-im-really-good-killing-drones/
he loved Canada, and did quit well for an uneducated worker, proudly paid his house off at 65, died about 3 years later. BTW, he was about 37 when we came here, and bought his first house at age 47, and that should give some of these “entitlement” twits pause for thought!
He’s lost it.
Someone needs to make sure he takes his meds.
Oliver Stone . Just another loony lefty with a hard on for Jews.
I’m very close to the end of Vincent Bugliosi’s 1600 page magnum opus Reclaiming History which I believe provides the definitive debunking of ALL the insane evidence and logic free JFK assassination conspiracy theories.
He devotes a long section to Stone’s execrable movie JFK which is a tissue of lies from start to finish.
I’m not a there-oughta-be-a-law guy but I would be prepared to make an exception here.
This guy should be strung up by the heels in the public square like Mussolini.
What a disgusting lying SICKO creep.
75% of Americans now believe the assassination was a government conspiracy due in no small measure to his disgusting commie agitprop. This is a tragedy even greater than the assassination itself.
Someone mentioned Stone and research in the same sentence.
That frankly sickened me.
Stone doesn’t do research. No does he do poetic licence.
He starts with a hate-dripping conclusion and invents factoids out of whole cloth to buttress it.
He’s a BIG LIE peddler.
For the record: I didn’t mean to suggest he should be censored and I am against all anti-holocaust denial laws; all hate speech laws.
Ne jamais attribuer à la malveillance ce qui est bien expliqué par l’incompétence.
Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.
Napoleon Bonaparte
I hope he covers Hitler escaping to South America.
Oliver Stone is stoned.
Unfortunately I actually visited Auswitz..The place gave me the creeps..The double wire, the electric fence, etc…..I am amazed that any got out but some actually did….yer daddy was very lucky and very resourceful….a beacon of hope for us all.
Yes Jews were only one identifiable group they attempted to exterminate. Many, many were simply worked to death.
I have little doubt about what occurred there…..my sole reservation is that there musta been more crematories. Takes time to burn a body….
The SS coulda killed that many a day (their own meticulous records are proof of that) but what did they do with the bodies?
rmgk – Thank you for sharing that link. Having watched the film, I have now shared it with EVERYONE in my contacts list. Some won’t watch it, some won’t believe it and many won’t care. But it needs to be seen by as many as possible.
I added a screen capture of Putin and his words and prefaced the link with the following comment:
A film that SHOULD be seen by every student –
In light of current events vis a vis Russia and Ukraine, this film by Latvian director Edvins Snore, critically examines the history of the Soviet Union, its’ deep relationship with fascist Germany and why history may be repeating. Historians from Cambridge, Sorbonne and other European universities speak candidly, along with Members of European Parliament – and most importantly, the survivors and their children, who lived and suffered under communism/fascism.
Vladimir Putin is a student and product of that system, working for its’ return.
Warning: Disturbing footage
http://tinyurl.com/mdjegua
Stone just enjoys pissing on graves … Hollywood just allows him a “virtual piss” … covers more graves, fast.
rmgk – thanks for viewing and the link re-post.
The Soviet Story is also available if one would like it in their library. I do.
Just curious …
Putin has been in power for more than a decade. I have not heard of any mass killings perpetrated by the Russian state. You know, the one that emerged after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. According to my math, that’s 23 years ago.
So, since ‘fear of the other’ appears to be part of the argument, when exactly will this historical mass killing start? And, for what reason?
Just for fun, compare the death toll under Putin to the death toll by US drone in Pakistan. Now, look at a map and ask yourself … who’s sticking their nose where it doesn’t belong?
And, to stay on topic, Oliver Stone seems to have entered some delusional state. He is to be laughed at, along with his left wing supporters.
Yes, and I suppose the 82 that were shot on the streets of Kiev were ‘just for sport’. Perhaps SYF does not recognize government sponsored suppression…
As for Oliver Stone’s treatment to historically rehabilitate Stalin and Hitler as misdirected youthful dictators; we can only surmise that the physicians treating the patient Stone will be increasing the medication for anti-psychotics.
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1946Hoess.html
Rudolf Hoess born in 1900, , joined the SS in 1933, and eventually commanded the massive extermination center of Auschwitz, whose name has come to symbolize humanity’s ultimate descent into evil. This is his signed testimony at the Post-War trials of Major War Criminals held at Nuremburg.
“1, RUDOLF FRANZ FERDINAND HOESS, being first duly sworn, depose and say as follows:
1. I am fortysix years old, and have been a member of the NSDAPI since 1922; a member of the SS since 1934; a member of the WaffenSS since 1939. I was a member from 1 December 1934 of the SS Guard Unit, the socalled Deathshead Formation (Totenkopf Verband).
2. I have been constantly associated with the administration of concentration camps since 1934, serving at Dachau until 1938; then as Adjutant in Sachsenhausen from 1938 to 1 May, 1940, when I was appointed Commandant of Auschwitz. l commanded Auschwitz until 1 December,1943, and estimate that at least 2,500,000 victims were executed and exterminated there by gassing and burning, and at least another half million succumbed to starvation and disease, making a total dead of about 3,000,000. This figure represents about 70% or 80% of all persons sent to Auschwitz as prisoners, the remainder having been selected and used for slave labor in the concentration camp industries. Included among the executed and burnt were approximately 20,000 Russian prisoners of war (previously screened out of Prisoner of War cages by the Gestapo) who were delivered at Auschwitz in Wehrmacht transports operated by regular Wehrmacht officers and men. The remainder of the total number of victims included about 100,000 German Jews, and great numbers of citizens (mostly Jewish) from Holland, France, Belgium, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Greece, or other countries. We executed about 400,000 Hungarian Jews alone at Auschwitz in the summer of 1944.
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7.
Very frequently women would hide their children under the clothes but of course when we found them we would send the children in to be exterminated. We were required to carry out these exterminations in secrecy but of course the foul and nauseating stench from the continuous burning of bodies permeated the entire area and all of the people living in the surrounding communities knew that exterminations were going on at Auschwitz .
9. From time to time we conducted medical experiments on women inmates, including sterilization and experiments relating to cancer. Most of the people who died under these experiments had been already condemned to death by the Gestapo”
Rudolf Franz Ferdinand Hoess, “Affidavit, 5 April 1946,” in Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the International Tribunal, Nuremberg, 14 November 19451 October 1946 (Nuremberg: Secretariat of the International Military Tribunal, 1949), Doc. 3868PS, vol. 33, 27579.
In answer to sasquatch question on body disposal, ruthless efficiency in the service of evil…
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Those statistics would be celebrated in the streets by most countries bordering Israel. 7 million jews bordered by 125 million Arabs and the first time in Israel’s history that a American president is openly anti Christian and pro Muslim. And in the background we have Iran, which will have nukes before Obama leaves office thanks to a all bark and no bite enforcement policy. If I was a betting man I would say that the jewish legacy will be written within the next 2 years and there will be no more trials like Nuremberg because every country has been complicite and no one can plead ignorance. Hoess was hung for his crimes in 1947 but I doubt he could have guessed that in the not too distant future there would be millions of Muslims eager to continue where he left off, with no fear that the world will intervene or even feel the need to hide their intentions.