Senator Nancy Greene-Raine in a speech before the Canadian Senate;
Honourable senators, I rise to address Bill S-205, an Act to amend the Income Tax Act. If passed, this amendment would give tax credits to Canadians who invest in so-called carbon offsets. While I have no objection to citizens spending their own money in any way they choose, I do not support the government’s giving tax credits for carbon offsets. I say this for several reasons. First and foremost, I consider it an unnecessary and undesirable expense at a time when we should be looking for ways to reduce the tax burden on Canadians. While it is true that the amendment would benefit those who invest in carbon offsets, it would be an expense that would have to be covered by all other taxpayers. I say it is unnecessary because, contrary to the assertions of the honourable senator sponsoring the bill, it addresses an issue that is more and more being questioned by new scientific evidence. We simply do not know that our actions have a significant impact on the global climate, let alone that “the consequences of not acting can be catastrophic,” to quote Senator Mitchell.
Go thank her.
h/t Ron in Kelowna
Everyone please send her an email and perhaps a copy to your MP as well.
Clive
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Send that failed Alberta Liberal party wanker Mitchell a piece of your mind too. Be prepared to get back an arrogant, you can’t get rid of me email in return, but it’s always fun to poke at him.
It disgusts me that he was ever appointed to the Senate, but Liberals always looked out for failed Liberals.
‘Greens’ aren’t often so cogent.
I tried to google the full test of the bill, but all I could get was the recent amendments. From what I can see, it looks like a bureaucratic black hole wrapped in red tape where nothing existed before. Am I missing something? If not, this bill should die a lonely death in the Senate where it will never be missed.
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I can’t remember the last time I wrote a positive letter to any politician in Canada. These are strange times indeed.
Well stated, senator.
Let’s see. She made these comments on Tuesday, they show up on SDA Sunday morning…I expect the MSM will get round to publishing excerpts from this speech and smear her when this bill dies next month.
Of course if a senator, or elected politician, ever says something sensible, it never gets media attention, but ooooh, look at Justin’s biceps and goatee!
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Also asked that she try to convince anyone else in caucus to do likewise.
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I met her way back in the late ’60’s right after she won the Olympic gold medals. Man, she was hot!
Then found out she was pregnant (and unmarried)!
I gave up stalking her shortly after that.
Done.- Referenced that it was posted here at SDA. Also for all you Ont. folk, there’s a bumper sticker available at Quixoteslaststand.com with your name on it,
I also sent a copy of my email to the PM and wrote to Premier McGuinty encouraging him to read this very intelligent speech and to slow down his foolish push for costly green energy that is increasing our energy costs and blighting our countrysides.
I support the free contraception for greenies and liberals.
Done. Nancy is a sweety. Olympic gold, successful business person who created Whistler, and now a politician.
The Honourable Senator nails it with this line: “If spending money on greenhouse gas reduction is profitable and makes people better off then there is no need for government to force it to happen.”
I’d buy her a Mars Bar any time.
Sent her one. Also asked her to mention to that Lieberal Mitchell if he believed the 97% agreement # about CAGW that the cultists keep throwing around. Then asked her to find out if he realizes that is 97% of 77 scientists,not the 10s of thousands they like to use.Sure would like to here his reply.
Done, with pleasure. I had already sent her some material after the December 15 ’11 presentation by Ross McKitrick et al to the Senate Committee on Environment, which, I believe, she instigated.
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Done – with a side note that legilating like this only validates junk science, institutionalizes fraud and corrupts free markets.
Best line of the speech (IMHO)…
“After all, if governments are to base policies on real science and not become bogged down in mere rhetoric and politically correct dogma, we must hear from experts who follow the scientific method, even, and perhaps especially, when they come to conclusions that are not currently in vogue.”
It doesn’t get any simpler than that!
Cheers!
Done! Sent to her, the PM, Kent, AND our B.C. Premier. I want the carbon tax out of B.C.; the HST didn’t bother me, but the carbon tax sure does! If Clark threw it out, I would vote for her with pleasure even though she is a Liberal, and not just because it’s the only way to keep the socialist NDP horde at bay.
Done. I included my academic credentials so she may know that those of us with a scientific background appreciate her good sense.
Done as well. My wife skied with her one year up at Sun Peaks. They met at the top of the chair and started chatting. A very nice charming lady. They skied down one run together.
Quite apart from the truth Senator Nancy spoke I am baffled by the idea of giving tax credits for those who buy carbon offsets. I thought, at least part of the reason for buying offsets was that the expense of such a purchase served to keep your consumption of carbon down. Now if the government in its infinite wisdom decides to pay your punishment, so to speak, then what is your incentive to cut your use of carbon?
OK what brainiac liberal thought that one up? Oh nuff said.
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If people want to feel good about themselves by wasting money on hot air credits they can do so at their own expense.
mitchel44 gets a H/T from me 🙂
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The actual text of Bill S-205 as at first reading, is here:
http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Docid=5142649&file=4
And yes, it takes a bit of drilling down to get there. Helps if you have done it before as it is not clear.
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Also question the tax statis of the Suzuki Foundation. Defund the CBC.
//Best line of the speech (IMHO)…
“After all, if governments are to base policies on real science and not become bogged down in mere rhetoric and politically correct dogma, we must hear from experts who follow the scientific method, even, and perhaps especially, when they come to conclusions that are not currently in vogue.”
It doesn’t get any simpler than that! //
Oh I don’t know. This is fairly simple —
carbon dioxide. This is not carbon, but a compound of one carbon atom and two oxygen atoms, yielding a molecule that has the chemical formula CO2. This is not merely an academic point. Ignoring the oxygen atoms and calling CO2 emissions carbon emissions is as appropriate as ignoring oxygen in water vapour or H2O and calling it hydrogen. […]
The “CO2 is carbon” mistake is a common misconception, and it unjustifiably encourages people to view this benign gas as dirty, which indeed it is not. […]
plants are somewhat undernourished in CO2 at today’s atmospheric levels. We are closer to low CO2 levels, at which plants die, […]
Having affirmed that “we must hear from experts who follow the scientific method, ” she says —
Consequently, I recommend to the Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources that they consider doing a thorough study into the current state of climate change science, carefully considering all reputable points of view on the issue.[…]
I suggest that you read the well-documented review by Canadian investigative journalist Donna Laframboise.
[…]
And a final flourish — studying AND questioning —
Senator Raine: […] We should be asking ourselves this question: How did the opinion that man is causing dangerous climate warming get where it is today?
Senator Mercer: Through science.
Abolish the senate!
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Here’s Ross McKitrik’s fantastic, dissenting essay on why he abhors Earth Hour:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/03/17/earth-hour-a-dissent/
My family hates it too. We keep all our lights on in our thoroughly NDP neighbourhood. At least we haven’t had any rocks through our windows—yet!
and SENT
Lookout, if you want I could lend U my crossbow:-)))
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I used to be all about abolishing the Senate or making it triple E.
Now I don’t care.
It’s a good restraint on power.
Plus…the Harper Senate is going to last years beyond the Harper House….
Besides Bruins, and Sox, the only thing Boston is noted for is baked beans and the gaseous result is now trolling SDA. Try a little harder leftoid.