Heist on a cracker…
An American Indian tribe sued some of the world’s largest beer makers Thursday, claiming they knowingly contributed to devastating alcohol-related problems on South Dakota’s Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. The Oglala Sioux Tribe of South Dakota said it is demanding $500 million in damages for the cost of health care, social services and child rehabilitation caused by chronic alcoholism on the reservation….
The Oglala Tribe’s unfrozen caveman lawyer Tom White:
“You cannot sell 4.9 million 12-ounce cans of beer and wash your hands like Pontius Pilate…”
We all know that like in Canada, the cult of victim hood thrives in the USA.
Obviously the company should have refused service to anyone of Native ancestry or status. This would have been an easy way of avoiding potential lawsuits.
“Like American parents everywhere, we will do everything lawful we can to protect the health, welfare and future of our children,” he (Tribal President John Yellow Bird Steele) said
Yeah, about that…
One in four children born on the reservation suffer from fetal alcohol syndrome or fetal alcohol spectrum disorder…
next suit up…gun makers..
they made a movie about that type of suit
Finally, if Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer doesn’t do the trick, I can only recommend the Chewbacca defense. Or Offense, I guess.
Why the hell not? They sued the cigarette makers into the ground. I’m thinking of suing food makers ’cause I’m fat…
Have they really thought this through? What exactly do they propose to do when tribes and reservations are sued/bankrupted over their operation of low-tax smoke shops — not to mention the latest tribal source of megadollars, casinos. Both are a scourge, endlessly destructive, and just like alcohol, their consumption is entirely voluntary. I am thinking success in this lawsuit might not bring them the joy they think it will.
Wasn’t it the natives that introduced the west to tobacco? That’s what I learned way back. Perhaps smokers should’ve sued them too.
Aye. Woe is me.
I’m a shadow of what I could have/should have been because of me Great, Great Grandpy’s love of scotch whisky.
Your time has come Grand McNish; run and hide Dewars; I’m comin’ for ye, ye dartie wee bastards!
Cause Native Americans are oppressed little brown people too stupid to be responsible for their actions?
Yup, all they need is a few health nuts on the jury and they have it made and then they can tie into the evils of second hand alcohol. Breath is toxic ya know.
give them the 500 million as long as they never drink again,I bet they dont take it.
So, if the stores sell beer, a legal product by the way, to a native, they are oppressing him/her and taking advantage, because they can’t help themselves/are stupid/diseased/(fill-in the blank for self-victimization)
If the store doesn’t sell to natives, they are RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRACISTSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Tell me, where is the common sense?
Wasn’t it the natives that introduced the west to tobacco?
…and syphilis, but in addition to alcohol we gave them TB, smallpox, plague, cholera, etc….. Nobody has been winners in that exchange.
When it was illegal to sell booze to Indians, they went to court and had the law overturned. Idiots.
It would be highly irresponsible to award the Oglala Sioux $500 million. They’d just spend it on booze. Grounds for a lawsuit, that.
“You cannot sell 4.9 million 12-ounce cans of beer and wash your hands like Pontius Pilate…”
Hmm. But you cannot PURCHASE 4.9 million 12-ounce cans of beer…and wash your responsibility for that purchase off your own hands.
4.9 million seems a tad low. And only cans? Not to mention only 12 oz.? What about all the GIQs?
(The measure would require local authorities to ask the state to designate the area an “alcohol impact zone.”)
I love leftist jargon; the word is “reservation.”
“You cannot sell 4.9 million 12-ounce cans of beer and wash your hands like Pontius Pilate…”
Yes, you bloody well can!
What enormous children these creatures are! Enough already!
7-8 years ago, I rode into a small town in Arizona. At the front desk I asked the clerk if the gas station across the street sold beer (long hot day in the saddle). She told me it was a Indian Reservation and that there was no alcohol to be had anywhere on the reservation.
Are you familiar with how large AZ Indian reservations can be? Sometimes, thousands of square miles. In a panic I ran out of the motel jumped on my trusy steed and high-tailed it outa there. Thing is, it was nearly 2 hours afore I cud find a town with beer: at the Safeway directly across from my motel.
That experience was a turning point in my life. I figgered if injuns cud decide against firewater on the reservation I cud quit. Which I did, and nary a drop since.
But, come on now. This is how the legal arm of the Indian Industry lines their pockets. There’s good money to be made exploiting Indian misery. Soooo, we gotta keep them miserable, which means they must never be allowed to accept responsibility for the consequences of their own behavior.
Me No Dhimmi – congrats (seriously)! Now, complile a list of people who sold you booze before you quit and contact your lawyer.
“500 million”….chump change. Indian reserves here in Saskabush are suing everything in sight for 14 Billion Dr. Evil dollars because a new potash mine is under construction on their traditional hunting grounds. Forget that the mine is 40 or 50 miles away from their reserve; oral tradition puts that mine right where they used to hunt.
North of 60 at 10:42 PM: “and syphilis, but in addition to alcohol we gave them TB, smallpox, plague, cholera, etc….. Nobody has been winners in that exchange.”
What a lame argument! Communicable diseases are spread where ignorance of how to prevent, treat and cure them prevails. At the time in history, when we were “giving them” all those diseases, nobody on either side of the Atlantic understood the germ theory of disease.
What we DID do happened in the 20th century in the realm of public health and prevention of the spread of communicable disease was inoculate them and provide health and hospital care at our expense, long before publicly funded health care came into be being. In fact, even prior to that, the Hudson’s Bay Company was providing health care, such as it was in the 17th century.
Prior to our understanding the nature of communicable diseases, such diseases struck down everyone and anyone. Germs know nothing about conquest, treaties or nationality. They strike everyone with equal opportunity.
Did you know there was a small pox epidemic raging in the 1860s that killed many North American colonials just as efficiently as it mowed down Indians? Residents of the New England colonies were just as susceptible to diseases that were common in the Old World because they had been isolated from Europe for so long that hardly anyone had acquired any natural immunity to it.
This will likely be viewed as a success story for the advocates of prohibition:
The Connecticut-sized reservation has struggled with alcoholism and poverty for generations, despite an alcohol ban in place since 1832
They’ve had 189 years to deal with their problem and haven’t yet learned that applying more of measures that don’t work with the expectation that one will get a different result is insanity.
If I was a beer company lawyer, I would suggest to them that they sue the US federal government instead for failing to enforce no alcohol sales within 500 miles of the reserve borders in order to protect this singularly sensitive tribe from any ethanol.
As usual, a failed society uses the defense of projection to blame everyone except themselves for outcomes that were purely the result of individual choice. My solution to the problem would be to remove all financial support of any kind from this brain-damaged tribe and see what happens. There will be a few survivors but this situation is yet another example of not allowing evolution to take its natural course.
What a lame argument! Nobody was posing any ‘argument’. It would appear that someone would like to start one, but I couldn’t care less. So they can Golf Foxtrot Tango.
nold “14 Billion Dr. Evil dollars because a new potash mine is under construction on their traditional hunting grounds.”
So if they’re Sioux, their traditional hunting ground is Minnesota and Wisconsin, if they’re Cree it’s Hudson’s Bay. Oh I forgot, their oral tradition says they were there forever and Whitie owes them $14 billion.
See George Will’s article, “No Beer, No Civilization”.
Water quickly became contaminated in early cities; beer and wine provided the only purified water, so people who couldn’t handle their beer were selected out genetically.
Most Natives didn’t build cities, thus, never developed the tolerance for beer. Firewater sure hits my Shoshone neighbors like a hammer.
p.s.
“Your time has come Grand McNish; run and hide Dewars; I’m comin’ for ye, ye dartie wee bastards!”
Best. Comment. EVER.
Milk, meet Screen!
The Temperance folks are back only in disguise as Indians. This is what happens when you
allow Neo-Pagan secularists Puritans come to power. This started with smoking. Thats where people gave these control freaks power. Did anyone here really think it would stop there? That even when alcohol is banned it will stop there? Think friezes on beach’s. Driving. Its all about power. The Fetish Nazis are in accent. We can blame no one but ourselves for allowing this.
An indian beat up a Vancouver bus driver but is blaming it on booze and fetal alcohol syndrome. As well the defense lawyer is suggesting special leniency because he is an indian.
So I have also decided to treat the indians in a “special”way” also. Want to rent my apartment.Sorry no, you are an indian. Want to sit next to me on the bus-sorry no, you are an indian.Answer an ad for a free rooster(when we have more than one rooster we always have to get rid of it and its easiest just to give it to someone who wants it) sorry no, you are an indian. The government and justice system wants to treat indians special, then so do I.
I’m suing over their casinos…
I drove through the Pine Ridge reservation a couple of summers ago. Alcohol banned there? You would. Ever have known it. In the town of Pine Ridge the streets were lined with people passed out or nearly so on the sidewalks, all with brown paper bags in hand. If alcohol is banned there then enforcement is pretty horrible.
Ha hahahahahahah
good grief…
Who’s next, mouth wash companies, after shave companies, companies that sell gas–used to sniff?
Ahhh . . the old self inflicted wound scam.
…”4.9 million 12-ounce cans of beer”…ppffftttt, that’s like what, 4 million Canadian beer? Or to put it another way, a two year supply for the average rig crew.
I saw this over at Five Feet of Fury and the words “tobacco lawsuit” sprang to mind. Also the “table saw lawsuit” wherein some utter moron scored a couple million bucks from Ryobi because he cut himself freehanding a piece of flooring on a saw that had ALL the fences and safeties removed. Or that beeatch who sued McDonalds over too-hot coffee and won.
In view of the above I have a hard time blaming the Indians for trying to jump on the bandwagon. Certainly the suit is utterly without merit, and just as certainly they will get money for bringing it. It would be worth it for the brewery to give them a million bucks just to go away.
Who do I blame? Liberals. What’s my strategy? Tailgate every Prius and SmartCar you come across until the driver’s head explodes.
Think globally, act locally.
4.9 million 12-ounce cans of beer on the reserve, 4.9 million 12-ounce cans of beer.
Set up a casino the traditional way, and fleece whitey for the rest of the day.
When you marry your first cousin…have no work to do; to survive..or know what the word work is…a house is supplied and you get an allowence to spend on good works….like alcohol..cars..the problem is they don’t go out any more and raid other tribes for captives for torture (homicide )….if they some how win that will just buy even more alcohol…if they cannot control there lives”’;;;;” to me this is the same as going after tobacco companies…how can they be at fault when all governments taxed the sh@t out of it ..yet never tried to stop it…//
You know, if these people were to learn that some of that beer had been imported from Canada through northern Michigan, we might see the Sioux sue the Sault…