65 Replies to “Chokin’ In The Boys Room”

  1. Who designed these urinals? Probably the same engineers who developed the curly bulbs and the Chevy re-Volt. More decision making by the fanatic watermelons and this is what you get.

  2. Quite the savings on the investment. That sure pi$$ed away a lot of money. However it may be a good lesson learned by the students that there are unintended consequences to some of these looney ideas. mid island mike

  3. Back in the 1600-1700’s there used to be sewage running down the streets. Here it is 2012 and we have urine running through school corridors. Isn’t the progress we made in sanitation wonderfull.

  4. But urine is a “natural, organic,” fertilizer.
    Shouldn’t it be collected, carefully analyzed, optimized,
    and sprayed on the school’s “green roof”?

  6. They just put those in our kids’ elementary school here in Edm during a recent renovation. While we don’t have the leaking urine nightmare, they DO smell. The boy’s washroom has smelled strongly of urine from day one.
    I applaud their efforts to reduce water use, but I wonder if there is a happy medium with just a small amount of water flow to keep things fresh…

  7. At the rate we’re going,we oughtta be back to the good old fashioned s***house in a couple of years, and no Eaton’s catalogue available anymore!
    On the bright side,the kids will now have something to tip over on Hallowe’en night.
    Somebody tell me we’re progressing,please.I’m gettin’ a mite nervous with all these improvements.

  9. The company I work for in Edmonton installed these crappy urinals when they renovated and wanted to be green and LEED certified. The mens room smells like urine all the time. To top it off they also installed low flow toilets and taps with motion sensors. The water never runs long enough to have even luke warm water to wash with. The end result is that the combination does not allow enough water in the drains to keep them flowing. They have to have the sewer line roto rooted several times a year to stop everything from backing up into the washrooms. Great planning!

  10. @Sgt Lejaune:
    > But urine is a “natural, organic,” fertilizer.
    > Shouldn’t it be collected, carefully analyzed, optimized, and sprayed on the school’s “green roof”?
    They already do that to the House of Commons. 😀 The copper roof is, well, copper-coloured when they first put it on. They use urine to hasten the oxidization process, turning the roof its traditional green colour.
    The technique is described here: http://www.rurquhart.com/rchateau.html

  11. Well “educated” people made these decisions, right?
    Just keep them away from MY kids please.
    Thanks.

  12. Now living in LA and recently transferred from Edmonton. I see so many of these urinals here in SoCal. Everytime I walk up, I shake my head knowing what is going on in the pipes and the smoke screen that is being sold to and by the “do gooders greeners”.
    Just give me a urinal that has a sensor that flushes when I walk away.
    BTW, what is it with guys that have to talk on their cell phones when at the urinals. Can’t they tell the other person they will call back in minutes. I suppose the girls are much the same in their restroom as well.

  14. San Francisco, an early adopter of low flow stuff…. has problems with it’s sewage system for some time …due to reduced water….
    Reputedly to avoid installing new mains and pumps….the city flushes regularly with water from fire hydrants and tank trucks.
    IOW….no water conservation…in practice more water usage and more labour costs.

  15. So what do they do?? Hook them up to the fountains in the canteen and sell “Dr. Pecker!”

  16. This type of urinal works well as long as it isn’t heavily used. The benefit is that you don’t have to run a water line to it, the downside is the more use it gets, the more often you need to replace the filter. You learn quick to have a large pail of hot soapy water ready to pour down the hole as soon as the old filter is pulled.

  18. The sensor flushed urinals and toilets work just fine, and they meet the LEED certification requirements. The zero-water urinals are a big mistake; they’re not used here.

  19. Sunshine Village had those disgusting green, “save the planet” stinking pissers last time I skied there, we could smell them from 200 feet away, about puked just going in there, never will go back there, like there’s no water in the mountains, morons. Offices that put them in along with those dim Suzuki squiggly bulbs found that the women working next to the bathrooms soon were complaining but their offices were generally so dark the bosses couldn’t see who was bitching anyway. No seriously they were removed in every school and MD buildings around here, grand success when your stupid like an environMENTAList I guess..

  20. On the bright side,this new technology wasn’t used in the toilets. That would be a brown filled station to be avoided.

  22. A better solution would have been to use the urine to fertilize the school lawns. Just mark off the area that is to be fertilized and apply all natural fertilizer. Much easier in the winter as one would just have to piss on the non-yellow areas of snow. Chamber pots used to be good enough for people and they could be brought back in schools to introduce children to the new watermelon religion.
    Or, we could excavate furrows in streets and encourage elimination there with natural rainwater moving things along. The concept of underground sewers and plumbing is so 19th century and out of balance with the way the majority of the world handles human waste. I suggest that we start by digging the above ground sewage ditches first in Vancouver’s Kitsilano district as well as turning off water to all the houses and having a communal water source where people can socialize and discuss how their actions are “saving the planet”.
    Water is such a scarce resource in the Vancouver area that it must be conserved at all costs.

  23. Typhoid fever, among other diseases, can be spread by urine.
    Its incidence is highest in children and young adults between 5 and 19 years old, infecting 16–33 million cases a year typhoid kills about 1/4 million people annually.

  25. If the parents put up with it, that means they want it.
    Whether it’s muslim prayers in the cafeteria, sex ed for seven-year olds, or stinking pisspots.

  26. And once you save enough water the municipality raises the water and sewer rates to make up for lost income, as they did here in the Region of Waterloo.

  27. it’s great living on a farm, don’t have any pi ssing urnal problems, just don’t scare the gelding when you have it out:-)))

  30. I dislike the Falcon Waterfree technology, but must point out that it is well known in the plumbing industry and by the manufacturers that these urinals are incompatible with copper drain pipes.
    These are the things that are well known about such tech, (according to the US Army Corps of Engineers):
    Drain lines must slope at least ¼-in. per foot, and cannot be made of copper pipe,
    which corrodes.
    Drain lines must be clean before urinal installation.
    Maintenance Instructions must be followed Exactly, including specific cleaning materials, maintenance procedures and intervals.
    Keep a log of cartridge replacement dates or trap service dates… Monitor high use facilities during peak usage periods.
    In any case where there has been a problems, I assure you that these instructions have not been followed. As a former building maintenance tech, I see very little chance that they will ever be followed adequately, but if a school wants to put inthe admin hours and training to make it happen, good on ’em.

  31. What is so wrong with using water? It is after all constantly renewing itself. Do these looney Greenys think we live in the middle of a desert?

  33. Liberals love their country the way a spouse abuser loves his wife.
    They love the planet the way an abuser loves his kids.

  34. RON – “What is so wrong with using water? It is after all constantly renewing itself. Do these looney Greenys think we live in the middle of a desert?”
    Water used for household use, other than grass watering, is not lost to the river. It is returned to the river with a little bit extra. The low flow etc. stuff is simply stupid. Water just ends up back in the river.

  35. Is there actually a water shortage or a reason to use low flow toilets and urinals in half these places or is it just another green bandwagaon to hop on?

  36. Brought to us by the same folks who took the pilot lights out of the furnaces, which led to heat exchangers rusting out from condensation.
    Brought to us by the same folks who mandated the water saving toilets that had to be flushed twice to get it all down.
    Brought to us by the same folks who got the incandescent bulbs banned, thus ensuring a steady flow of mercury into our landfills, and eventually our water supply.
    Why is it impossible to be left alone by the clueless determined to impose their stupidity on the rest of us?

  37. These urinals work very well, at what the company says, but as we see, they must be installed in buildings with all PVC or ABS drainage.
    I have seen them in various new buildings, and they are rather ingenious devices.
    Buildings with steel drains pre-date the dinosaurs, so somebody didn’t do their homework. Don’t blame Falcon.

  40. Stan,
    Like I stated above, my municipality has raised the charges on water, because their ban on washing your can in the drive, and lawn water restrictions, and low flush installs etc has reduced the income from water charges. Last time I had to use a no water urinal I was visiting an office in Winnepeg, from my window I could see the diversion channel they use to keep the whole damn city from drowning – no there is no shortage of water.

  41. Don’t blame Falcon?! They are supposed to know when their urinals are compatible with existing pipes and when they are not.
    And don’t tell me “they work well.” Work well at what, saving water or properly disposing of waste?
    I lived in Europe where similar urinal designs were used. The stench would hit you 10 meters from the bathroom. The smell in the bathroom was unbearable. The low flow commodes would frequently clog, and when they did they poured filthy water all over the floor. They are a triumph of wishful thinking over sober reality.
    There may be ways to reduce fresh water consumption, but these are bad ideas. They are unsanitary insanity.

  42. The water from the Xtra Grande Flush just goes back in the river. Low flush this is conservation because ….?

  43. I need help with this. I always thought water never disappeared. It could be transferred to another location, it could turn into a vapor or a solid but it never depleted. In other words, there has been a constant amount of water on earth since forever and it will remain that way forever.
    Am I nuts???

  45. Gang Green’s mantra is that of a wife-beater.
    “I wouldn’t hurt you if I didn’t love you.”

  46. Fearless @1:54 I agree. Use the argument that training guys where to p*ss is like training puppies. If you rub the Puppies nose in his sh*t, all he smells is sh*t so he just dumps his load any old place. In this case boys hose the whole place down everday….sinks, walls, corners garbage cans etc. Then start on hallways, lockers etc….

  49. Here are the rules, fellas, if you encounter one of these ultra-green washrooms.
    1) Don’t widdle in the water free urinal. Not only might the pipes leading away from it be defective, or the unit itself improperly maintained. You will also very likely get splashback on your pants and onto the floor (and therefore the bottoms of your shoes) because there is no pool of water to absorb the energy of your stream.
    2) Instead, gently lift the seat of the low flush toilet in the nearby stall and widdle therein. Even in a low flush toilet, there is enough water to avoid splashback and to carry your waste product away safely. Remember to put the seat back down after you are finished.
    3) If you need to make a more substantial contribution to the sewage flow, try to wait until you can get to a more accomodating facility. If your requirement is more urgent, then you have no choice but to use the low-flush toilet. When you flush, it will very likely be insufficient to carry away all the evidence of your deposit. Therefore, you may need to flush a couple of times out of courtesy to the next person who wants to use that facility.
    I appreciate that these rules defeat the greenie purpose for which these peculiar facilities were developed and installed. As compansation, however, they are in accordance with the purpose of sanitation, for which, please remember, modern plumbing was originally developed.
    Thank you.

  50. I saw one of those thingys the other day and wondered how it worked. I need wonder no more ’cause it doesn’t.

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