Angry villagers stoned to death a local Taliban commander and his bodyguard in southern Afghanistan Sunday after the militants killed a 60-year-old man accused of aiding the government, Afghan officials said.
It was a rare reversal of brutality aimed at the Taliban and, some Afghan officials believe, suggests a growing sense of security in an area where the insurgency has lost ground to NATO forces in the last two years. The stoning happened in the Nawa District of Helmand Province, a verdant agricultural area along the Helmand River Valley, now considered one of the safest places in the volatile south as a result of a heavy influx of American troops and aid dollars.
“People won’t tolerate the Taliban’s barbaric actions anymore,” said Dawoud Ahmadi, a spokesman for the governor of Helmand Province. “They will stand against them whenever they are harmed.”
It appears the Taliban only understands the crude mechanics of butchery. Fear works for a while but ultimately it will fail…
Why should they be surprised that the locals retaliate, when they pop people off in broad daylight while the family watch?
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This sounds very encouraging and hopeful, and they cannot say Jack Layton was the source of inspiration.
encouraging news,
even though the local Tim Hortons has pulled up and gone home.
can’t win them all I suppose.
It would be nice if this became a pattern.
Stoned to death because people won’t tolerate barbaric actions anymore.
Say what?
Yes it would be nice if it became a pattern, but it is a single incident and the exact motive these villagers had for stoning these Talibs is not really known beyond the sons of the 60 year old spontaneously attacking them.
It should be remembered that most Afghans(92%) don’t know why ISAF/NATO has invaded their country.
It’s a direct and situation-appropriate response to *initiated* barbaric brutality, kelly. If some crazed, murderous, theocratic scum were to brutalize your ten-year-old daughter – or your niece, or your sister – for carrying – or owning – a book, how would you respond?
If, in the specific context in which events occurred, your sixty-year-old neighbour had been brutalized by some theocratic scum from an outlying area for not meeting the scum’s theocratic, twisted principles, would you ask him to meet you over a cappuccino to work out the fine details – or invite him to a committee meeting – or might you perhaps manifest the immediate corporeal equivalent of a “nuh-uh“?
Albeit it’s not a situation that the average westerner has to deal with every day, I’m hoping it’s the latter.
Good on these “turban cowboys” bout time western justice was administered to these animals,,,,and yes he who cast the first stone,,,well I’m preaching to the stoned eh Kelly. Get a grip girl.
From article:
militants killed a 60-year-old man accused of aiding the government, Afghan officials said.
“If your sixty-year-old neighbour was brutalized by some theocratic scum from an outlying area to your own neighbourhood for not meeting the scum’s theocratic, twisted principles”
~EBD
According to the article, the 60-year-old man was killed for collaborating with the corrupt puppet regime which was installed by foreign invaders, not for failing to meet religious principles.
I argued extensively last year about the survey that was completed in Afghanistan which showed that 92% of Afghan knew nothing about the 9/11 attack on NYC or why NATO invaded Afghanistan in the first place.
Ignore the implications of that fact at your peril, but in absence of the knowledge of the 9/11 attacks launched from training camps in Afghanistan, Afghans who work with the installed government and fight along side our forces are rightly viewed by Afghan patriots as enemy collaborators and traitors to Afghanistan.
Here we are nearly 10 years on and to my knowledge we are still not explaining to the Afghan people why we invaded and are occupying their country.
If Afghan security included locally organized militia, village by village, it would be impossible for the Taliban to retake the country.
They would simply have to promise to meet over time increased educational standards e.i. high school grad and the militia would have to include women. That would double the number of fighters.
The Taliban are scared of women now, just think if they had to worry about them carrying guns under their Burka. They’d end up changing their policy and banning it for their own safety. 🙂
it happens more often that you think, but in the same way that positive aid and construction projects are never mentioned in the media, the preferences of the Afghan people are ignored in favour of publicizing the taliban’s actions. It isn’t so much that the mainstream media is actively supporting the taliban and other theocratic terrorists, it’s that they’ve been so instilled with the moonbat mantra of “anything white people do is wrong” that they indirectly aid them by failing to condemn their tactics and by misinterpreting them…it’s the same as Vietnam…during the Tet ‘offensive’ the Viet Cong ceased to exist as a meaningful force after they were largely wiped out in their failed attacks…a few made it onto the US embassy grounds where they were contained in an area where they weren’t hurting anything…until dawn when they were dealt with easily and without any more fuss…but the media got a picture of them taking down a flag and declared Tet a huge loss to the US…and as in the ME today, the media’s lunacy came mostly from interviewing and accepting the analysis of events by ‘credible sources’…each other…
Sounds like politics has improved a notch…
“We vote you off this island.”
“People won’t tolerate the Taliban’s barbaric actions anymore,” said Dawoud Ahmadi, a spokesman for the governor of Helmand Province. “They will stand against them whenever they are harmed.”
Not until of course the Taliban come in and execute a dozen of them, then things will return to SNAFU.
“People won’t tolerate the Taliban’s barbaric actions anymore,” said Dawoud Ahmadi…”
Soon, there’ll be no haven left except Canadian University campuses and the NDP caucus…
2 swallows does not make a spring but it could be a sign….but then it could be nothing.
The lack of media..print or otherwise…makes spreading the news of this limited to word of mouth by travelers…who the Taliban will do their best to silence.
Part of the problem is the instinctive xenophobia of A-stan….they are not trusting of strangers.
The Taliban are acutely aware that violence does not make friends but can certainly influence people.
let’s hope the butterfly effect takes hold after this demonstration.
I remember a story out of Iraq years ago about a village who drove teh evil fringe folks away. It was supposed to be a sign too. It’s Afghanistan, it’s Muslims, it may never have happened. A story like this interests people in dropping more blood and money into a hopeless useless Islamic sh*thole. There are no hearts and minds to win. They just want the parasitism to continue.
Oz, we invaded Afghanistan because large military operations were the default reaction at the time. The point of intervention then and now is to ensure a capability such as that which planned and executed 911 can’t operate unharassed.
Now the approach will be special forces who move in, take out the threat, and leave, similar to the operation to kill OBL.
The locals will just have to be p***ed off!
WRT to the stoning of a Taliban CO, I have advocated a similar approach for years – tell leadership, wherever they are, they are personaly liable, with their lives, for actions taken under their watch, despite any denials or equivocations.
Deterrence at work.
It seems the local Afghans get this and we don’t, or can’t, because it wouldn’t be civilized.
“Angry villagers stoned to death a local Taliban commander and his bodyguard”
Excellant!
That makes the score:
Taliban – Thousands and thousands.
Villagers – 2
Oz, we invaded Afghanistan because large military operations were the default reaction at the time. The point of intervention then and now is to ensure a capability such as that which planned and executed 911 can’t operate unharassed.
Gee, is that why 22 terrorist training camps have been operating in Pakistan for 10 years then?
You do know that Pakistan’s ISI are running those camps and that they were behind the 9/11 attack too, don’t you?
How many $Billions per year have we been giving Pakistan?
I’ll bet the Paks are feeling sooo harassed now, eh?
Did you know, Shamrock, that Obama is going to pull U.S. forces out of Afghanistan before the 2012 election?
Yeah, the Talibs are just going to stroll on back in and in six months Afghanistan is going to be just like it was on September 10, 2001.
The incident that this thread is about is a one-off which happened because the sons of the 60year-old-man were right there when the Talibs gunned him.
I could give you a laundry list of incidents where the Afghan soldiers and police(the guys who are taking over when our guys leave) that we trained and armed, attacked and killed our forces just this year.
Killing a 60 year- old man probably took a lot of time and effort…
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Do they still get their 76 Virgins?
I guess these two klrs don’t get their virgins, killing Muslims.
Oz, it’s called real politics. Then again, you’re right, let’s invade Pakistan. Make up yer mind will ya.
So what if US forces are leaving before 2012 (if they are, that’s not what I’ve heard).
Please, spare me your did you know the ISI is behind 911. no sh*t sherlock. Did you happen to notice an operation inside Pakistan where their government was not informed? That’s the new paradigm, as I stated.
What action or inaction do you suggest, or are you just a back seat driver?
I’m proud of the work our soldiers did and don’t care to bleat on about why everything didn’t turn out perfect.
Well, Stephen Lewis is another Canadian icon from my youth that I’ve scratched off of my list of “respectable” Lefties (not too many “Progressives” that are still left on that list):
During Jack Layton’s funeral eulogy today, Stephen Lewis praised the fact that Layton called for “negotiations” with the Taliban right from the beginning. It was nauseating, but there was a redeeming moment: the camera momentarily swung to Jason Kenny who could be seen moving his head from side to side in disbelief saying “no!”. Kudos to Minister Kenny.
Of course the absurdities in Lewis’s eulogy to Layton didn’t stop there, with praise for Layton’s apparent bravery for standing up to the Canadian military’s tanks in the street when they were deployed under Trudeau’s imposition of martial law in 1970, which was in response to the bloody terrorist attacks of Quebec’s separatist FLQ.
Funny how Jack Layton had a history of “standing up to” free democratic governments or militaries who protect the life and limb of innocent citizens from the actions of bloodthirsty terrorists, but he never had the guts to stand up to the brutal terrorists themselves.
There’s a reason why they called him “Taliban Jack”.
Oz, it’s called real politics.
~Shamrock
What, specifically is it’s referring to?
Then again, you’re right, let’s invade Pakistan. Make up yer mind will ya.
~Shamrock
Of course I’m right.
What is it that you think I should make up my mind about?
So what if US forces are leaving before 2012 (if they are, that’s not what I’ve heard).
~Shamrock
I didn’t write that U.S. forces would be leaving this year.
Read what I wrote, don’t defer to the voices in your head.
Please, spare me your did you know the ISI is behind 911. no sh*t sherlock.
~Shamrock
Just dishing it back the way you dished it to me with your opening paragraph at 11:28 AM.
Did you happen to notice an operation inside Pakistan where their government was not informed?
~Shamrock
There you go again, same tone.
If the Paks can’t be trusted as an Ally, Afghanistan is lost.
What action or inaction do you suggest, or are you just a back seat driver?
~Shamrock
Pull NATO out now, the result will be the same this year as next year and we’ll have spent less blood and treasure.
Our troops over there don’t make us safe here.
The 9/11 attackers were legally allowed into the U.S., just as hoards of Muslims are to this day.
Cut them off, shut them out, any that are here are not allowed back if they leave for ‘training’ in Pakistan or Yemen or any number of a host of rogue Muslim nations.
If they leave for the Haaj they leave for good, if they visit the ‘old country’ it’s to live there permanently.
They can’t hurt us here if our government doesn’t let them come here.
I’m proud of the work our soldiers did and don’t care to bleat on about why everything didn’t turn out perfect.
~Shamrock
Bully for you.
Do you want a medal or a chest to pin it on?
Could’n’t happen to nicer guys heh!