When we do please also send back the idiots that decided these illegal aliens should be greeted by unionized ‘officers’ hold freaking umbrellas to sheild them from what? The sun? #@$%!!!$%#
Yesterday Green hosting for Adler related the story of people coming to Canada on vacation, applying for refugee status and getting their vacation paid for. Canada was a soft immigration touch in the 60’s and 70’s and was well known for denying no-one. Cash, health care and welfare.
He also related a couple that lived in Detroit for six years applying for refugee status. They aren’t qualified (safe country) but it will take years to get rid of them.
Change the law or use a BC island as a refugee camp until they clear or appeals are exhausted.
If you aren’t going to track them and lawyers tell them not to appear in front of the board a solution is required.
It was near the end of the program so I expect it will be discussed again. Green was quite surprised at the organization of the fraud.
The Tamils invented the suicide bomber.
The Tamils have already shown their williness to act out by blocking that major overpass in T.O.
How can they be refugees if the boat originated in Thailand?
Bottom line: If these people are Tigers, and they probably are, they’ll get to stay because the winners in the Sri Lankin Civil War are going to want to open a can of whoop ass on them.
It isn’t as if there hasn’t already been precedents set in Canada letting foreign terrorists have refugee status because they would get harmed, and rightly so, if they returned to the land they committed their terrorism in.
Do we want Tamil Tiger terrorists to be given Club Canada Cards?
I don’t.
The Tamils invented the suicide bomber.
The Tamils have already shown their williness to act out by blocking that major overpass in T.O.
How can they be refugees if the boat originated in Thailand?
Bottom line: If these people are Tigers, and they probably are, they’ll get to stay because the winners in the Sri Lankin Civil War are going to want to open a can of whoop ass on them.
It isn’t as if there hasn’t already been precedents set in Canada letting foreign terrorists have refugee status because they would get harmed, and rightly so, if they returned to the land they committed their terrorism in.
Do we want Tamil Tiger terrorists to be given Club Canada Cards?
I don’t.
Rob it is to ensure their privacy.
You know, I’ve always felt Quebec and Alberta had a lot in common: “Alberta ranked highest with 74% of respondents there saying send the boat back and just 11% saying let them stay, while Quebec was the second highest with 64% opting to send the boat back and 15% saying the passengers should stay.”
“Send them home and use the Navy if necessary is the message coming from a new poll on the Tamil boat people issue.” – Toronto Sun
Now we all know that is not going to happen. Let’s check in 2 years from now and see how things are going.
my prediction?
after much delay the huge majority will be allowed to stay thus setting the precedent for THOUSANDS more back home watching events. for all we know they could be on their way already seeing as this bunch have gotten past the first step.
my hunch?
there are terrorists in the group.
if this goes all ‘wonrg’ I put ALL the blame squarely in steve-o harpoon’s lap. all of it. ALL the blame now and future. ALL the blame exclusively in the prime minister’s lap. ALL of it.
On the other hand, there’s Kelly McParland’s HARD left polemic in today’s National Post, “Poll shows Canadians are nasty, anti-immigrant SOBs”.
According to the estimable Ms. McParland, not only are those opposed to allowing in these Tamils “racist bigots”, but they’re also “insensitive jerks”, plus they’ve turned into [the lowest of the lowly Americans] an East Texas lynch mob!
Dave (According to the estimable Ms. McParland, not only are those opposed to allowing in these Tamils “racist bigots”, but they’re also “insensitive jerks”, plus they’ve turned into [the lowest of the lowly Americans] an East Texas lynch mob!)
I have a feeling you didn’t read the article through–or with any attention.
Here in Alberta everyone is starting to say alot of politically incorrect things out loud.
We are not reacting this way because of ‘unsavoury verbage like queue jumpers and human smugglers’. We are simply sick and tired of the human trash being dumped on our shores. They shouldn’t be sent back, they should be torpedoed 20 miles off shore as an example to the rest of them.
This is my country too, and I am sick and tired of hyphenated-canadians figuring they can give it away to whoever they want.
Been off-line for some time so I apologize if I am covering old ground here. Ottawa talk show host Lowell Green raised some interesting logistical questions about this ship the bore the Tamils to Victoria. These are questions our brain-dead, lame-stream media are too lazy, too stupid or too politically correct to pose.
Water — necessary for survival. We are told that the ship could provide a liter per person per week. Well, humans can’t survive on that little. So where did it get water?
Fuel — a ship that size, basically a coaster, could not carry enough fuel for 100 days at sea — how long we are told it took the ship to travel from Thailand to B.C. So where did it re-fuel?
Ditto for food. Where did it re-provision?
Passenger manifest — When the ship was off Australia, the media reported 250 sould on board. When it was off Guatemala, the report was 250. It arrives in Canada with 492 on board. Where did the extra people come from– a rendezvous at sea with another ship?
If 492 people had been packed on a ship that size for 100 days, scores of them would have been sick, probably with dysentery. Yet, no one to my knowledge required hospitalization or even serous medical treatment. All those who landed seemed clean, healthy and well-clothed, hardly consistent with life aboard a ship rationing water and food.
This whole thing smells to high heaven and we Canadian are being played for suckers. Sadly, that is nothing new, given how we are governed.
Vic Toews says this was a test ship. Got news for you, Vic, the previous one with 76 Tamils on board (all in the wind now) was the test and you flunked.
It’ll be the top story on The National tonight:
“A shocking new poll reveals the majority of Canadians to be un-Canadian. One of our stable of interchangeable female reporters who look like commercial realtors with cramps reports…”
Dave in Pa – you didn’t read right through McParland’s article – he basically spouted the left-wing talking points and then outlined the real situation.
I say, “Send ’em back”. I can’t be accused of being anti-immigrant since I am one. Of course I came in the days before there were any social benefits for immigrants – we worked or we starved. We moved a lot following higher wages and lower rents; it only took three years to buy the first house.
Beagle – quit trolling. The PM didn’t implement the stupid rules, the supreme court did nearly a quarter of a century ago. That has to be challenged and changed – “Not withstanding” clause or a clear new legal challenge?
Send them to Barry in Washington…He likes illegals and terrorists.
Sell the boat…Save some tax dollars…Save the boat fuel and navy escort back to Sri Lanka = Less carbon burn. Thats green initiative. All win-win.
The first ship of refugees to hit the west coast was in the late eighties or early nineties. For the life of me I can’t understand why government could not have foreseen future problems and taken steps to fix the system. It is even more galling that two governments were Conservative.
Due to family reunification programs – how much does one boatload of people really equal in ten years?
rita and Aviator, apparently you both didn’t read through my comment through or with careful attention. What part of my comment made you think I wasn’t talking about the hard-leftiness of that ridiculous column?!
If it is “unCanadian” to expect people follow the law or question the veracity of a refugee story, then the poll’s outcome proves the opposite. It is very “Canadian” to expect proper procedures.
As heart-breaking as a refugee claim may be, we cannot, in this day and age, believe anything at face value. Some people may be legitimate refugees. Others may be looking for a free ride.
Just my quick thoughts.
Should have sunken the f4ckers en route.
“For a long time Canadians have been happy to ignore all this and trust the authorities to sort it out. It would appear that that’s no longer the case. The immigration system has been so badly broken for so long, and political parties of every stripe so reluctant to do any serious repairing, that many Canadians plainly feel it can’t be trusted any longer.
That’s why they tell pollsters they’d turn the ship around and send it home. It has nothing to do with discriminating against Tamils or forgetting what Canada stands for; it’s about the ongoing decline in faith that we have institutions and a political system that are up to the job of dealing with the problems they face.”
Dave in pa,McParland started out spouting the left wing talking points,but as you can read above, ENDED the article with a “bang”.
We Canadians,back in the good old days,trusted our government and its institutions to uphold the laws of the land. Since,oh about 1968,when our “hope and change” guy was first elected to the PM’s office,trust in government has steadily eroded,to the point where most of us are very cynical about anything governments in this Country do.
And it ain’t just in immigration, we feel the same about justice,health care,welfare,pensions,and ever encroaching Big Government that’s inexorably forcing us into a socialist “People’s State”.
Getting back to the subject at hand,as someone said earlier on this post,the immigration “test” was the earlier arrival of 76 Tamils,and this government failed the test.
Like one poster said somewhere else:
A legal immigrant was killed by the RCMP at the Vancouver airport, but a boatload of illegals get food, medicine and support.
Something wrong with this country.
“We don’t often hear about other refugee claims that are done on an individual or family basis, but when we see lots of them at the same time we tend to get a little nervous.”
OH … Perhaps we should send them back with enough money to buy a plane ticket and come in one and two at a time. Ya, that’ll make Canadians feel a lot better. What we don’t know won’t hurt us.
The Tamil Tigers are not finished. They have no other life, they are like the Muslims in Gaza they only know hate and violence, that is what their lovely parents continue to teach their off-spring.
Tamil Tigers (and you can bet there are several on that boat) will come here to raise money so they can eventually resurrect their civil war ‘back home.’
I know how the plot proceeds from here. First, the offensive, racist poll results will be broken down into income, location and education levels. All those opposing the Tamil boat people will be condescendingly portrayed as poor, rural rednecks – Arizona-style Canadians. Next a CBC reporter will do an in-depth story about one or two refugees – one right off the boat and a settled refugee from a decade ago. The new refugee will have a heartbreaking story, sick child, blah, blah, blah. The older refugee will be successful, talk flatteringly of Canadian tolerance, appeal directly to Canadian generosity….
Nowhere will there be any talk of terrorism, money shakedowns within the Tamil community, crime, ethnic tensions, illegal protests or the cost to taxpayers.
Well, I certainly can’t say it out loud. I’ve tried twice to post my comments in support of sending the Tamils back to re-apply, if they wish, using normal immigration procedures – but both times my post has gone to spam. I give up.
Oh no! An outbreak of common sense, quelle horreur! Something must be done…
I feel a Completely Biased Coverage(cbc) townhall coming on.
Reeducate you sheeple for your incorrect opinion.
And off to post secondary with your kids, so we can brainwash them into politically correct thoughts.
Ever wonder why our government is so secretive? I thinks it is to hide their incompetence! I like many Canadian don’t trust the government to do any thing right. I agree these people should be sent home. And the I would like to see more deportations in general.
The chances of the people on board that boat actually being close to the terrorist tigers is almost certain. You do not fight a long,very bloody civil war and then leave when your side wins. These people are from the losing side,the tamil tiger side. We have enough problems with the terrorists that are here now,it would be very foolish to let others move in.
Canada’s cultural elites are on thin ice these days. They are on the wrong side of two high-profile issues, refugees and immigration, and global warming.
What we need now is for the government to recognize where the balance of power actually lies, stop trying to placate their natural foes in the cultural elites, and start to dismantle their entitlements. Who’s going to come to their aid, Fidel Castro? Putin? (he’s too busy trying to put out fires).
We don’t need to care what they think of us in London or Paris because people there face mostly the same problems and have pretty much the same attitudes. We might be able to start something that would spread to other countries (but if we wait much longer it will spread here from other countries).
This situation is unstable — the government gets a mandate to govern from people who disagree with its actions and just tossing out a few sound bites that sound vaguely like support will no longer cut it. We need the government to listen to popular opinion on these issues and act in accordance with them. Anything else is becoming grounds for a leadership review.
Apparently some of those women are in the early stages of pregnancy. Is three months still considered early stages, if under three months that leaves more questions to be answered.
Dyonisius asked the Ministry of Public Safety to prioritize the cases of the pregnant women, whom she said are still relatively early in their pregnancies.
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2010/08/19/bc-tamil-migrants-detention.html#ixzz0xB07UZ7C
If Harper had any brains he would be running on a new Immigration platform.
The common line (meant to tug on the ol’ heartstrings) that they’re all ‘poor’ gets on my nerves as well.
You paid $50k each to get on the dang boat to a smuggler – and you’re poor?
Geez.
Sending them back from whence they came would mean we’d have to recall Parliament and vote to change the freaking Charter as interpreted by Big Bertha Wilson, Leftoid par excellence of the Supremes.
Her interpretation allowed that anyone who sets foot on our soil or waterways get all the privileges of native born Canadians who have contributed to the country down through generations.
If the Harper government had a pair they’d recall Parliament and make it a confidence issue and go to the people. To continue along this path we risk making Canada a dump, a virtual cesspool.
What does the government think these people will add to Canada aside from a huge cost? Even if there are some who are considered a risk, they will be provided legals at our expense and hang around for years on our dime.
All this bullshit while we have legitimate people waiting in line to come to Canada legally who have credentials we need in this country.
At 50,000 dollars per fare why would you not just get false ID and fly? How are these people going to pay? What is the plan? I don’t think welfare taxi chits are going to pay for it and they aren’t doing this for humanitarian purposes. Call me a racist, I wonder about things.
Dammit! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
‘Darned right this boatload of illegal immigrants should be sent packing immediately. I resent one red cent of my hard-earned money going towards their food, shelter, clothing, medical, and dental, all of the same expenses my husband and I have had to cover for our family from day one. ‘No free ride for us or any other hard-working Canadian family, so who do these 500 interlopers think they are, jumping the queue with all expenses paid — especially as they’ve come to Canada on boats owned and operated by a terrorist organization, which is making a monetary killing off their passages?
Osumashi Kinyobe: “It is very ‘Canadian’ to expect proper procedures.” That’s right. Up to now, our Chattering Class overlords have expected us to toe the bottomless “multicultural,” “refugee” influx line, so the Liberal$ would get their votes and “the Natural Ruling Party of Canada” could spin out their hegemony indefinitely.
No more. As our expenses rise, taxes rise, and our children can’t find decent jobs, we’re saying “no way” to the gravy train for “refugees” who’ve had a free ride on our backs for far too long.
BTW Kelly McParland is a “he.” He must have a secure job and a good salary to spout the “Canadians-are-nasty,-anti-immigration-SOBS” line. My foot! We’ve been very generous to immigrants, we just don’t like being taken gross advantage of, especially when it’s one political party which benefits from our generosity — or what some would call our gullibility.
SEND. THEM. BACK.
I cannot believe that considering our failing social programs, we would consider letting a bunch of dead weight into this country.
Total insanity.
“SEND.THEM.BACK.” Absolutely!!!
How about we get something going across the country to make that happen?
BTW, how come we aren’t hearing an answer to the big question anyone with functioning brain would ask: how did that large load sustain themselves in such good condition,clean clothes, water and food, sanitation for three months on the open sea?
Nary a question in the media as to how they got sufficient water and supplies without outside help?
Who dunnit?
Invoke the notwithstanding clause, force an election on this issue. Then I’ll be able to confirm once and for all, if I’m staying, or if I’m going for refugee status in the Cayman Islands…
WE, THE PEOPLE need to have input on this one.
I’m taxed to the max now, and here come’s another boat load of welfare bums…i say send em back pronto!
& tell the skipper the next boat gets torpedoed.
po’d in sask.
BATB AND OTHERS
KMcparland was on the Adler show w/ Roy Green and he explicitly said his tongue was firmly in his cheek regarding the aforementioned article.
Someone should ask First Nations people how they feel about this issue. Anecdotal-ly, I’ve noticed many Native people have quite a bit of resentment toward this recent influx of immigrants in S’toon.
I jokingly said to a few friends that “us white-guys aren’t looking to bad now, eh?” regarding the Tamil issue to which I got chuckles, told I was “right” and to “STFU”.
Canada is the furthest place on the planet from Sri Lanka. They’re obviously not looking for a safe haven as they ignored every other country on the planet. Figure out what makes us so desired by them (life-long welfare, no deportations, fall for any sob story under the sun, whatever) and change it. Now.
Commenting on this blog is basically preaching to the choir. I strongly suggest that everyone infuriated by the government’s flaccid response to the ship state their views in at least one of the following ways:
– email or call your local MP
– write a letter to PM Harper, cc to Minister Toews and your local MP
– write a letter to your local (or a national) newspaper
– when the CPC solicits donations advise them that you will be glad to contribute after PM Harper announces that future ships will be turned back at sea
The public is strongly in agreement on this issue, but unless we make it clear to the government and to the the lamestream media that we demand change nothing is going to happen.
They came from Thailand….game over. Or it should be if the gov has any balls at all.
I lean left…I have voted liberal, although the last 2 election’s I voted for HARPER…and I want them sent back! I was doubtful about who to vote for in the next election but with the lefts weak position on this, it won’t be them. If the conservatives want to raise their poll numbers and get that majority, send them back. ASAP.
You know what REALLY pisses me off? Media. Media telling us how BAD we are…how we’ve lost our way, like we’re idiots! Canadians know what is best for our country and the media and gov better jump on board and not insult us for not wanting to lay down and be walked on! Grrr…
“You know what REALLY pisses me off? Media. Media telling us how BAD we are…how we’ve lost our way,”
Sue
Please justify (intellectually) this statement:
“I lean left…I have voted liberal,”
Considering the first comment in quotes, I’m curious why that didn’t upset you when you voted Left.
Please shed some light into the Left’s POV.
Batb, I can tell you several immigrants I know who’ve jumped through the hoops, worked hard and are glad to be in Canada (my parents being among them). The “chattering classes” as you call them would never dream of rubbing elbows with these legitimate immigrants because that means getting a dose of what they might not want to hear.
When we do please also send back the idiots that decided these illegal aliens should be greeted by unionized ‘officers’ hold freaking umbrellas to sheild them from what? The sun? #@$%!!!$%#
Yesterday Green hosting for Adler related the story of people coming to Canada on vacation, applying for refugee status and getting their vacation paid for. Canada was a soft immigration touch in the 60’s and 70’s and was well known for denying no-one. Cash, health care and welfare.
He also related a couple that lived in Detroit for six years applying for refugee status. They aren’t qualified (safe country) but it will take years to get rid of them.
Change the law or use a BC island as a refugee camp until they clear or appeals are exhausted.
If you aren’t going to track them and lawyers tell them not to appear in front of the board a solution is required.
It was near the end of the program so I expect it will be discussed again. Green was quite surprised at the organization of the fraud.
The Tamils invented the suicide bomber.
The Tamils have already shown their williness to act out by blocking that major overpass in T.O.
How can they be refugees if the boat originated in Thailand?
Bottom line: If these people are Tigers, and they probably are, they’ll get to stay because the winners in the Sri Lankin Civil War are going to want to open a can of whoop ass on them.
It isn’t as if there hasn’t already been precedents set in Canada letting foreign terrorists have refugee status because they would get harmed, and rightly so, if they returned to the land they committed their terrorism in.
Do we want Tamil Tiger terrorists to be given Club Canada Cards?
I don’t.
The Tamils invented the suicide bomber.
The Tamils have already shown their williness to act out by blocking that major overpass in T.O.
How can they be refugees if the boat originated in Thailand?
Bottom line: If these people are Tigers, and they probably are, they’ll get to stay because the winners in the Sri Lankin Civil War are going to want to open a can of whoop ass on them.
It isn’t as if there hasn’t already been precedents set in Canada letting foreign terrorists have refugee status because they would get harmed, and rightly so, if they returned to the land they committed their terrorism in.
Do we want Tamil Tiger terrorists to be given Club Canada Cards?
I don’t.
Rob it is to ensure their privacy.
You know, I’ve always felt Quebec and Alberta had a lot in common:
“Alberta ranked highest with 74% of respondents there saying send the boat back and just 11% saying let them stay, while Quebec was the second highest with 64% opting to send the boat back and 15% saying the passengers should stay.”
“Send them home and use the Navy if necessary is the message coming from a new poll on the Tamil boat people issue.” – Toronto Sun
Now we all know that is not going to happen. Let’s check in 2 years from now and see how things are going.
The Tamils are Hindu, and ethnically Indian; why are they not simply moving back to the mainland? That’s a rhetorical question by the way. http://transcurrents.com/tc/2010/08/majority_of_sri_lankan_tamil_r.html
my prediction?
after much delay the huge majority will be allowed to stay thus setting the precedent for THOUSANDS more back home watching events. for all we know they could be on their way already seeing as this bunch have gotten past the first step.
my hunch?
there are terrorists in the group.
if this goes all ‘wonrg’ I put ALL the blame squarely in steve-o harpoon’s lap. all of it. ALL the blame now and future. ALL the blame exclusively in the prime minister’s lap. ALL of it.
speaking of which…
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/2010/08/20/15083536.html
Send him back too
On the other hand, there’s Kelly McParland’s HARD left polemic in today’s National Post, “Poll shows Canadians are nasty, anti-immigrant SOBs”.
According to the estimable Ms. McParland, not only are those opposed to allowing in these Tamils “racist bigots”, but they’re also “insensitive jerks”, plus they’ve turned into [the lowest of the lowly Americans] an East Texas lynch mob!
Dave (According to the estimable Ms. McParland, not only are those opposed to allowing in these Tamils “racist bigots”, but they’re also “insensitive jerks”, plus they’ve turned into [the lowest of the lowly Americans] an East Texas lynch mob!)
I have a feeling you didn’t read the article through–or with any attention.
Here in Alberta everyone is starting to say alot of politically incorrect things out loud.
We are not reacting this way because of ‘unsavoury verbage like queue jumpers and human smugglers’. We are simply sick and tired of the human trash being dumped on our shores. They shouldn’t be sent back, they should be torpedoed 20 miles off shore as an example to the rest of them.
This is my country too, and I am sick and tired of hyphenated-canadians figuring they can give it away to whoever they want.
Been off-line for some time so I apologize if I am covering old ground here. Ottawa talk show host Lowell Green raised some interesting logistical questions about this ship the bore the Tamils to Victoria. These are questions our brain-dead, lame-stream media are too lazy, too stupid or too politically correct to pose.
Water — necessary for survival. We are told that the ship could provide a liter per person per week. Well, humans can’t survive on that little. So where did it get water?
Fuel — a ship that size, basically a coaster, could not carry enough fuel for 100 days at sea — how long we are told it took the ship to travel from Thailand to B.C. So where did it re-fuel?
Ditto for food. Where did it re-provision?
Passenger manifest — When the ship was off Australia, the media reported 250 sould on board. When it was off Guatemala, the report was 250. It arrives in Canada with 492 on board. Where did the extra people come from– a rendezvous at sea with another ship?
If 492 people had been packed on a ship that size for 100 days, scores of them would have been sick, probably with dysentery. Yet, no one to my knowledge required hospitalization or even serous medical treatment. All those who landed seemed clean, healthy and well-clothed, hardly consistent with life aboard a ship rationing water and food.
This whole thing smells to high heaven and we Canadian are being played for suckers. Sadly, that is nothing new, given how we are governed.
Vic Toews says this was a test ship. Got news for you, Vic, the previous one with 76 Tamils on board (all in the wind now) was the test and you flunked.
It’ll be the top story on The National tonight:
“A shocking new poll reveals the majority of Canadians to be un-Canadian. One of our stable of interchangeable female reporters who look like commercial realtors with cramps reports…”
Dave in Pa – you didn’t read right through McParland’s article – he basically spouted the left-wing talking points and then outlined the real situation.
I say, “Send ’em back”. I can’t be accused of being anti-immigrant since I am one. Of course I came in the days before there were any social benefits for immigrants – we worked or we starved. We moved a lot following higher wages and lower rents; it only took three years to buy the first house.
Beagle – quit trolling. The PM didn’t implement the stupid rules, the supreme court did nearly a quarter of a century ago. That has to be challenged and changed – “Not withstanding” clause or a clear new legal challenge?
Send them to Barry in Washington…He likes illegals and terrorists.
Sell the boat…Save some tax dollars…Save the boat fuel and navy escort back to Sri Lanka = Less carbon burn. Thats green initiative. All win-win.
The first ship of refugees to hit the west coast was in the late eighties or early nineties. For the life of me I can’t understand why government could not have foreseen future problems and taken steps to fix the system. It is even more galling that two governments were Conservative.
Due to family reunification programs – how much does one boatload of people really equal in ten years?
rita and Aviator, apparently you both didn’t read through my comment through or with careful attention. What part of my comment made you think I wasn’t talking about the hard-leftiness of that ridiculous column?!
If it is “unCanadian” to expect people follow the law or question the veracity of a refugee story, then the poll’s outcome proves the opposite. It is very “Canadian” to expect proper procedures.
As heart-breaking as a refugee claim may be, we cannot, in this day and age, believe anything at face value. Some people may be legitimate refugees. Others may be looking for a free ride.
Just my quick thoughts.
Should have sunken the f4ckers en route.
“For a long time Canadians have been happy to ignore all this and trust the authorities to sort it out. It would appear that that’s no longer the case. The immigration system has been so badly broken for so long, and political parties of every stripe so reluctant to do any serious repairing, that many Canadians plainly feel it can’t be trusted any longer.
That’s why they tell pollsters they’d turn the ship around and send it home. It has nothing to do with discriminating against Tamils or forgetting what Canada stands for; it’s about the ongoing decline in faith that we have institutions and a political system that are up to the job of dealing with the problems they face.”
Dave in pa,McParland started out spouting the left wing talking points,but as you can read above, ENDED the article with a “bang”.
We Canadians,back in the good old days,trusted our government and its institutions to uphold the laws of the land. Since,oh about 1968,when our “hope and change” guy was first elected to the PM’s office,trust in government has steadily eroded,to the point where most of us are very cynical about anything governments in this Country do.
And it ain’t just in immigration, we feel the same about justice,health care,welfare,pensions,and ever encroaching Big Government that’s inexorably forcing us into a socialist “People’s State”.
Getting back to the subject at hand,as someone said earlier on this post,the immigration “test” was the earlier arrival of 76 Tamils,and this government failed the test.
Like one poster said somewhere else:
A legal immigrant was killed by the RCMP at the Vancouver airport, but a boatload of illegals get food, medicine and support.
Something wrong with this country.
“We don’t often hear about other refugee claims that are done on an individual or family basis, but when we see lots of them at the same time we tend to get a little nervous.”
OH … Perhaps we should send them back with enough money to buy a plane ticket and come in one and two at a time. Ya, that’ll make Canadians feel a lot better. What we don’t know won’t hurt us.
The Tamil Tigers are not finished. They have no other life, they are like the Muslims in Gaza they only know hate and violence, that is what their lovely parents continue to teach their off-spring.
Tamil Tigers (and you can bet there are several on that boat) will come here to raise money so they can eventually resurrect their civil war ‘back home.’
I know how the plot proceeds from here. First, the offensive, racist poll results will be broken down into income, location and education levels. All those opposing the Tamil boat people will be condescendingly portrayed as poor, rural rednecks – Arizona-style Canadians. Next a CBC reporter will do an in-depth story about one or two refugees – one right off the boat and a settled refugee from a decade ago. The new refugee will have a heartbreaking story, sick child, blah, blah, blah. The older refugee will be successful, talk flatteringly of Canadian tolerance, appeal directly to Canadian generosity….
Nowhere will there be any talk of terrorism, money shakedowns within the Tamil community, crime, ethnic tensions, illegal protests or the cost to taxpayers.
Well, I certainly can’t say it out loud. I’ve tried twice to post my comments in support of sending the Tamils back to re-apply, if they wish, using normal immigration procedures – but both times my post has gone to spam. I give up.
Oh no! An outbreak of common sense, quelle horreur! Something must be done…
I feel a Completely Biased Coverage(cbc) townhall coming on.
Reeducate you sheeple for your incorrect opinion.
And off to post secondary with your kids, so we can brainwash them into politically correct thoughts.
Ever wonder why our government is so secretive? I thinks it is to hide their incompetence! I like many Canadian don’t trust the government to do any thing right. I agree these people should be sent home. And the I would like to see more deportations in general.
The chances of the people on board that boat actually being close to the terrorist tigers is almost certain. You do not fight a long,very bloody civil war and then leave when your side wins. These people are from the losing side,the tamil tiger side. We have enough problems with the terrorists that are here now,it would be very foolish to let others move in.
Canada’s cultural elites are on thin ice these days. They are on the wrong side of two high-profile issues, refugees and immigration, and global warming.
What we need now is for the government to recognize where the balance of power actually lies, stop trying to placate their natural foes in the cultural elites, and start to dismantle their entitlements. Who’s going to come to their aid, Fidel Castro? Putin? (he’s too busy trying to put out fires).
We don’t need to care what they think of us in London or Paris because people there face mostly the same problems and have pretty much the same attitudes. We might be able to start something that would spread to other countries (but if we wait much longer it will spread here from other countries).
This situation is unstable — the government gets a mandate to govern from people who disagree with its actions and just tossing out a few sound bites that sound vaguely like support will no longer cut it. We need the government to listen to popular opinion on these issues and act in accordance with them. Anything else is becoming grounds for a leadership review.
Apparently some of those women are in the early stages of pregnancy. Is three months still considered early stages, if under three months that leaves more questions to be answered.
Dyonisius asked the Ministry of Public Safety to prioritize the cases of the pregnant women, whom she said are still relatively early in their pregnancies.
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2010/08/19/bc-tamil-migrants-detention.html#ixzz0xB07UZ7C
If Harper had any brains he would be running on a new Immigration platform.
The common line (meant to tug on the ol’ heartstrings) that they’re all ‘poor’ gets on my nerves as well.
You paid $50k each to get on the dang boat to a smuggler – and you’re poor?
Geez.
Sending them back from whence they came would mean we’d have to recall Parliament and vote to change the freaking Charter as interpreted by Big Bertha Wilson, Leftoid par excellence of the Supremes.
Her interpretation allowed that anyone who sets foot on our soil or waterways get all the privileges of native born Canadians who have contributed to the country down through generations.
If the Harper government had a pair they’d recall Parliament and make it a confidence issue and go to the people. To continue along this path we risk making Canada a dump, a virtual cesspool.
What does the government think these people will add to Canada aside from a huge cost? Even if there are some who are considered a risk, they will be provided legals at our expense and hang around for years on our dime.
All this bullshit while we have legitimate people waiting in line to come to Canada legally who have credentials we need in this country.
At 50,000 dollars per fare why would you not just get false ID and fly? How are these people going to pay? What is the plan? I don’t think welfare taxi chits are going to pay for it and they aren’t doing this for humanitarian purposes. Call me a racist, I wonder about things.
Dammit! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
‘Darned right this boatload of illegal immigrants should be sent packing immediately. I resent one red cent of my hard-earned money going towards their food, shelter, clothing, medical, and dental, all of the same expenses my husband and I have had to cover for our family from day one. ‘No free ride for us or any other hard-working Canadian family, so who do these 500 interlopers think they are, jumping the queue with all expenses paid — especially as they’ve come to Canada on boats owned and operated by a terrorist organization, which is making a monetary killing off their passages?
Osumashi Kinyobe: “It is very ‘Canadian’ to expect proper procedures.” That’s right. Up to now, our Chattering Class overlords have expected us to toe the bottomless “multicultural,” “refugee” influx line, so the Liberal$ would get their votes and “the Natural Ruling Party of Canada” could spin out their hegemony indefinitely.
No more. As our expenses rise, taxes rise, and our children can’t find decent jobs, we’re saying “no way” to the gravy train for “refugees” who’ve had a free ride on our backs for far too long.
BTW Kelly McParland is a “he.” He must have a secure job and a good salary to spout the “Canadians-are-nasty,-anti-immigration-SOBS” line. My foot! We’ve been very generous to immigrants, we just don’t like being taken gross advantage of, especially when it’s one political party which benefits from our generosity — or what some would call our gullibility.
SEND. THEM. BACK.
I cannot believe that considering our failing social programs, we would consider letting a bunch of dead weight into this country.
Total insanity.
“SEND.THEM.BACK.” Absolutely!!!
How about we get something going across the country to make that happen?
BTW, how come we aren’t hearing an answer to the big question anyone with functioning brain would ask: how did that large load sustain themselves in such good condition,clean clothes, water and food, sanitation for three months on the open sea?
Nary a question in the media as to how they got sufficient water and supplies without outside help?
Who dunnit?
Invoke the notwithstanding clause, force an election on this issue. Then I’ll be able to confirm once and for all, if I’m staying, or if I’m going for refugee status in the Cayman Islands…
WE, THE PEOPLE need to have input on this one.
I’m taxed to the max now, and here come’s another boat load of welfare bums…i say send em back pronto!
& tell the skipper the next boat gets torpedoed.
po’d in sask.
BATB AND OTHERS
KMcparland was on the Adler show w/ Roy Green and he explicitly said his tongue was firmly in his cheek regarding the aforementioned article.
Someone should ask First Nations people how they feel about this issue. Anecdotal-ly, I’ve noticed many Native people have quite a bit of resentment toward this recent influx of immigrants in S’toon.
I jokingly said to a few friends that “us white-guys aren’t looking to bad now, eh?” regarding the Tamil issue to which I got chuckles, told I was “right” and to “STFU”.
They are not refugees, they are economic migrants ( http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/imm-passp/hum-smuggling-clandestin-eng.htm ) who paid organised crime to transport them like a boat-load of heroin into Canada.
Canada is the furthest place on the planet from Sri Lanka. They’re obviously not looking for a safe haven as they ignored every other country on the planet. Figure out what makes us so desired by them (life-long welfare, no deportations, fall for any sob story under the sun, whatever) and change it. Now.
Commenting on this blog is basically preaching to the choir. I strongly suggest that everyone infuriated by the government’s flaccid response to the ship state their views in at least one of the following ways:
– email or call your local MP
– write a letter to PM Harper, cc to Minister Toews and your local MP
– write a letter to your local (or a national) newspaper
– when the CPC solicits donations advise them that you will be glad to contribute after PM Harper announces that future ships will be turned back at sea
The public is strongly in agreement on this issue, but unless we make it clear to the government and to the the lamestream media that we demand change nothing is going to happen.
They came from Thailand….game over. Or it should be if the gov has any balls at all.
I lean left…I have voted liberal, although the last 2 election’s I voted for HARPER…and I want them sent back! I was doubtful about who to vote for in the next election but with the lefts weak position on this, it won’t be them. If the conservatives want to raise their poll numbers and get that majority, send them back. ASAP.
You know what REALLY pisses me off? Media. Media telling us how BAD we are…how we’ve lost our way, like we’re idiots! Canadians know what is best for our country and the media and gov better jump on board and not insult us for not wanting to lay down and be walked on! Grrr…
“You know what REALLY pisses me off? Media. Media telling us how BAD we are…how we’ve lost our way,”
Sue
Please justify (intellectually) this statement:
“I lean left…I have voted liberal,”
Considering the first comment in quotes, I’m curious why that didn’t upset you when you voted Left.
Please shed some light into the Left’s POV.
Batb, I can tell you several immigrants I know who’ve jumped through the hoops, worked hard and are glad to be in Canada (my parents being among them). The “chattering classes” as you call them would never dream of rubbing elbows with these legitimate immigrants because that means getting a dose of what they might not want to hear.