Now is the time at SDA when we juxtapose!
Chicago Tribune, June 30th – Last month, Illinois lawmakers passed legislation that will double the state’s solar power supply each year and create an estimated 5,000 “green” jobs by 2014. Meanwhile, at least three solar developers have plans to build solar projects of 10 to 20 megawatts in Illinois….
New York Times[1], July 2nd – [Illinois’s comptroller, Daniel W. Hynes] shakes his head. “This is not some esoteric budget issue; we are not paying bills for absolutely essential services…”
Footnote:
[1] – (Yo, Michael Powell, you missed a word.)
It seems like Illinois is like California…..running out of “other peoples money”.
A failed socialist state……literally!
recall reading somewhere an idea for a video ad for the upcoming election.
The scene is a family comes home and their congressman is sitting at the kitchen tables writing checks from THEIR checkbook for all kinds of bizarre pork products. They ask him what he is doing and he replies that everything is okay, if they can’t pay the loan, their children will or maybe their grandchildren. Cut to scene where the congress-bum is literally flying out the window.
Enough power to supply 4.4 million homes for 6 hours a day at christmas.18 hours a day in june.I guess they will have to go back to whale oil for light.O,is that why Japan is still in the whaling business?
California, and now Illinois-in the terminal stages of the “blue state disease”. Well summarized by sasquatch above, “failed socialist state run out of other peoples’ money”.
Nevertheless, their “progressive” political elites are still in denial reminiscent of the old cliche blonde joke: “I can’t be broke! I still have checks!” The hard left’s grasp of economics is really on a par with that blonde.
I always read these money stories about the US states and how bad they have managed the states tax revenues. But I never get to read a hard hitting money story about how badly Ontario and Quebec (or any other province) are being run. I hear that Ontario and Quebec are in more debt than Greece.
30 years of kow-towing to public sector unions = a broken state.
The fun begins when all the “we are perfectly entitled to our big fat salaries” public sector union members have their paycheck bounce.
They pretend to work . . . the state pretends to pay them.
About those 5000 “green jobs”, maybe someone check their estimate. Here’s why.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/06/graph_of_the_day_for_june_26_2.html
Bottom of page three; “Everything is triage now, he said. “We work to avoid outright disaster.”
Oh, I see – Keep the lights on in the schools and hospitals by putting fans in the sky so that their electricity bills are tripled !! Kool.
All because Hollywood and the media made the flake Gore into a Messiah. In Canada, eco god Suzuki morphed from a hippy thanks to the CBC.
I d like to know just where the various Canadian provinces stand finacially compared to Illinois and Mexifornia.I would bet that this is the real reason behind the HST in a financially desperate Ontario.
I hear that if you drive around Arizona and New Mexico you hardly every see any houses with solar panels. What do they know that we don’t – and that Obama doesn’t get?
Here is a good link pertaining to Illinois’ massive debt: http://www.theneweditor.com/index.php?/archives/11521-Illinois-The-Fiscal-Poster-Child-for-What-Not-to-Do.html
Starting tomorrow, All California state workers are cut to minimum wage. Before tips, of course.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38064054/ns/us_news-life
Apropro of nothing really…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Largest_oil_spill#Largest_oil_spills
By the way it is now quite difficult for a non-specialist (in web-etiquette/holocene drilling) to dig down to the Premex oil spill in the late 70’s. My own admittingly cursory attempt was lame. Could a real lion know how to take a snapshot of that page? Before it suffers a; Oh so typical rewrite?
It’s too bad that the NYT article didn’t include reader comments. Times readers can be quite hilarious. Most of them would respond to this article by urging a doubling or tripling of taxes on business, and all of them would blame George Bush.
“I hear that Ontario and Quebec are in more debt than Greece.”
You can’t believe everything you hear on coffee row, can you?
Perhaps you should do a little research of your own. The liberals have done more harm to Ontario than I like to think of, but it isn’t Quebec, much to your everlasting disappointment.
This would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.
This is what happens when you elect progressives, the liberal or conservative kinds.
Frankemm:
Get a life, will you? The HST is a mere pimple in our debt problem. My wife is director of finance for five auto dealers; she tells me that the HST will actually save the companies money, after the one time change over cost. Any one with the slightest knowledge of economics knows this is true.
To the uninitiated, “megawatts” sound like a huge amount of power. In reality, it is not. A megawatt is equivalent to 1340 horsepower, or the maximum output of ten average automobiles. Thirty megawatts is therefore 300 cars, which doubled each year for four years is less than 5000 automobiles. Which approximates the Tribune’s number of green workers, who will undoubtedly each rush out and buy a new car with their earnings.
Greenies will automatically argue that automobiles don’t operate at full capacity very much. Of course, neither do solar panels.
Illinois population about 13 million.
Budget about 25 billion.
British Columbia population about 4.4 million.
Budget about 42 billion.
Fun with numbers.
KevinB, is Frankemm wrong and you gave him a verbal slap for questioning the HST, why? Our gas costs jumped immediately 8 cents a litre July 1. If you have to commute as most Toronto people do this adds 100s of dollars each year. Our heating costs, electricity, fees etc, basically all our core requirements all jumped by 8%.
Are you saying companies will pass on their accounting savings to the consumers? McGuinty refused to do this with the LCBO.
Everything McGuinty touches costs Ontarians more and now he is looking at highway tolls for driving on our crowded, shitty roads.
Yet he is doing exactly as California has done. Pander to the unions with all day kindergarten and gave in to their demand to have a full time teacher as well as an early educator plus an assistant in a class for 4-5 year olds. Estimated cost $1.5 billion annually.
The Toronto School Board had a 13.4% decline in students over McGuinty reign with a 30% increase in teacher’s wages.
He also is spending $8 billion for Samsung’s wind farms over their contract meanwhile Ontario’s current windmills produced power at 18% of capacity in June.
Ontario is in a financial downward spiral with our own socialists clapping their hands and singing Kumbaya.
Maybe dreams do come true, Illinois with its most famous hometown boy getting what they deserve most, each other in bankruptcy.
Legacy of the O ring, FAILURE.
you missed a word
So when can we expect those small dead rural conservative welfare bums to give back all of that union earned money they’ve been mooching?
Oh right. Conservatives – no convictions, no courage.
The HST won’t ave you and neither will massive transfers from the Feds… look at Shawn Graham’s New Brunswick – Liberals going broke fast.
Whoa there Chris – Premier Campbell is telling British Columbians that the HST brings prosperity. Yet here you are suggesting that New Brunswick is going BROKE. You don’t mean to tell me that Campbell is LYING, do you?
I’m so confused…..
I’d expect that one consequence of this will be that suppliers to the states of Illinois and California will demand payment up front by cashier’s check. I know that that’s what I’d demand.
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
Wouldn’t it be nice if instead of sending all our tax dollars into a general pot the tax department sent us each a bill for a specific project we had to fund. Some would get an invoice to support a portion of a soldier’s pay and another would pay into the budget for a parliamentary office. And the we would have the lucky ones who pay for a study into the sexual practices of trans-gendered indiginous peoples with pre-existing sexually transmitted diseases. How long would it take for a revolution to start if we really saw an itemized bill?
Time to clip coupons folks. Don’t know about you, but I’m overweight and can afford to eat less, and better. (offer it to your God as a fast). No more gambling and no more lottery tickets, it all goes to big bro – Let retailers know you’re willing to walk a few extra blocks to get a bargain. Good second hand clothing is taxed, but it’s cheaper in the long run; tell people you’re being green. Seen some of the people they hire to cook your meals in these fast food places? Safer and cheaper to eat at home. Entertainment? Make your own, and do you really need satellite radio and 300 TV channels? Truth is we’ve too much gadgets at home now; try the library,learn to read and spell properly again.
Don’t blame me. I didn’t vote for this nutjob.
Nicola Timmerman said: “I hear that if you drive around Arizona and New Mexico you hardly every see any houses with solar panels. What do they know that we don’t – and that Obama doesn’t get?”
I can confirm that this is 100% correct. -Nobody- has solar panels on their roof in Phoenix AZ. Nobody. Not even wild eyed greenie whack jobs, except for the wealthy. Likewise Nevada and New Mexico. The reason is that solar power, even in the desert with ten cloudy days a year, simply does not pay. Not for a pool heater, not for hot water heaters, not for electricity.
California does have some solar panels on roofs, but not many. The reason they have any at all is that solar systems are (or were) very heavily SUBSIDIZED by the state, to the point where they allllmost made sense and some greenie weenies got sucked into buying them.
Illinois is now at the point where all these fripperies are going to fall by the wayside as essential services come under severe pressure. There is no way people are going to sit still for solar and wind foolishness when cops and firemen are getting laid off by the thousands, and schools are shut for lack of funds.
Crooked politicians seem not to have gotten the message yet, but they will.
HappyJuly 4th to the murricans.
A question for those in the “green sector”. These ‘green jobs’that are promoted,would I have to actually work,or would walking around saying,”that’s cool,you’re cool”,be enough. I will braid my greys(extensions),and quote Carlin,but is that enough???
Would I have to actually produce anything tangible? Waiting for a reply with bait on my breath. BTW,I think you’re really cool.
wallyj if you just toss in the word “sustainable” every few sentences you’ll be cool.
California and solar????
Remember that humungous California PV (photo-voltaic)solar farm they opened with much fanfare a little while back???
It’s shut down and they are disassembling it and selling the big PV panels to distributors who are even selling these things here in southern Ontario…..$4000 for about a 20′ X 20′ array set on a pivoting pedestal which follows the sun….until the first hail storm……
PV (photo-voltaic) panels require “rare earths” sourced mainly in China. China has ceased exporting “rare earths” to protect their solar panel manufacturers.
Ironically the energy required to manufacture a PV panel exceeds the energy it will produce before it hits it’s “mean time before failure” (best before date).
But then ya gotta remember those who promote solar power are the same loons who are determined to take out ALL HYDRO-ELECTRIC dams so that “the rivers can run free.” (does that mean a return to flooding and droughts?)
‘Moving to Canada’ just took on whole new meaning.
British Columbia population about 4.4 million,
Budget about 42 billion?
If I can find a place to park my car and put up my tent before winter.
‘Yo Canada’
Barack Petroleum (BP) Update:
More Hopes and Fears.
O’Block:
“a local Louisiana parish’s plan to block the slick has been rejected by federal officials.”
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“Hopes ride on giant oil skimmer in Gulf of Mexico
The latest hopes are riding on a massive new skimmer to clean oil from near the spewing well in the Gulf of Mexico, while a local Louisiana parish’s plan to block the slick has been rejected by federal officials.
A 48-hour test of the Taiwanese vessel dubbed “A Whale” began Saturday and was to continue through Sunday.
TMT Shipping created what is billed as the world’s largest oil skimmer by converting an oil tanker after the April 20 explosion sent millions of gallons of crude spilling into the Gulf.
The vessel was expected to cruise a 25-square-mile test site just north of the Macondo Deepwater well site, company officials said.
The U.S. Coast Guard and BP are waiting to see if the vessel, which is 10 stories high and as long as 3 1/2 football fields, can live up to its makers’ promise of being able to process up to 21 million gallons of oil-fouled water a day.”
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gIXWYBTpLtSayJtg41LKXpxSxVPAD9GO3JF80
Whither Al Gore (WAG)?.
“a revolutionary scheme” = bribery.
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“Corruption undermining grants to stop logging
A revolutionary scheme backed by the World Bank to pay poor countries billions of dollars a year to stop felling trees is the best way to stop logging and save the planet from climate change, according to wealthy countries and conservationists, yet documents seen by the Observer show the plan is actually leading to corruption and possibly more logging.
Human rights and environment groups yesterday called for a radical rethink of the United Nations scheme, known as Redd (Reduced emissions from deforestation and degradation), after it emerged that many countries were trying to cheat the system.
Under Redd, 37 mainly tropical countries have requested more than $14bn in grants from rich countries by 2015 in return for cutting their carbon emissions from logging and other forestry activities. This is expected to lead to an income of more than $10bn a year by 2020 when a global carbon offset scheme is running. The carbon money flowing from rich to poor countries will then theoretically dwarf international aid and could reduce global emissions by 17-20% – more than that emitted by all the world’s transport.
But analysis of the 16 forestry reform plans so far submitted by Redd countries to the World Bank shows that many intend to abuse the system in order to collect the money while carrying on logging as usual.”
http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/2010/07/04/corruption-undermining-grants-to-stop-logging/
Maz2, I am reading a book by Jeff Rubin, chief Economist and energy expert at CIBC World Markets, called Why Your World is About To Get a Lot Smaller. Its on declining oil and our future. He shows how the best intentions of politicians and environmentalists, as your article points out, are stymied by reality and human nature.
When car engines were required to get much better milage after oil prices soared and oil use dropped in North America and travel was now cheaper people with declining oil prices just drove more and SUVs were the hot item.
In his view the era of cheap oil is over and our huge demand for it must go down as only more expensive oil, i.e. the oil sands and deep offshore oil is left. Major exporters like Saudi and Russia are using more and more of their oil for domestic consumption. The middle east has an exploding, little pun there, population and along with massive desalination plants will require most of their normally exported oil. Also their major fields are declining.
In addition China and India have begun their love affair with the car. Just yesterday GM announced it sells more cars in China than in NA.
Our future will be more European like for travel which will not be a bad thing.
Rubin also notes as the book Fast Food Nation did how GM and Standard Oil bought up over a 1,000 streetcar systems across the US and with the corruption of politicians tore them up so Americans would buy cars and use gas.
Anyone that would like to see a comparison between California and Ontario might find this article of interest:
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/03/california-usa-vs-ontario-canada-which_29.html
celina, that works out to $1,923/Illinois and $9,545/BC person. Spending in BC is 5 times as much as those from Illinois.
How’s that Hopey-Changey thing working out for ya?
I don’t know Sarah how’s that whole abstinence thingy working out for ya?
Drill Baby Drill
rOc, they let you out of G20 detention already?
If not paying for essentials is obscene, ( as Illinois comptroller Daniel Hynes says it is later in that quote ) how would he characterize paying for unnececssary solar projects? Or, is he saying that he considers the solar project ” essential ” and hasn’t paid for it?
Thanks for these 2 quotes, Kate. Really adds depth to Mr. Hynes comments.