From the Bishop Hill summary – “Tim Osborn discusses how data are truncated to stop an apparent cooling trend showing up in the results (0939154709). Analysis of impact here. Wow!”
Plus: “….how a crude fax from Jack Eddy became the definitive IPCC record on the last millennium!”
Global WarmingGate: What Does It Mean? is a must-read.
If we do accept them as authentic, though, they truly are incendiary. They appear to reveal not one, not two, but three real scandals, of increasing importance.
Finally – take the “so you think you can do climate science” quiz!
“Who cares about climate change, where are the Jobs.”
This economic model is broken. When company’s cant buy the steel for what china can make the finished product for (and its our steel) . I worked for a company and was told that if the employee’s pay the company they still couldn’t compete with china; so its no longer about wages or fat cat unions.
I personally believe it goes much deeper, this system is designed to keep you poor, if everyone had money who would borrow from the banks.
This needs to be addressed when talking about the environment, as china pollutes and low wages them-self into prosperity, we all lose.
Until these questions are answered, the various attempts to “deal with the climate change crisis” have no acceptable scientific basis.
Makes sense to me. Besides, there are lots of neat things to do in Copenhagen so why waste the visit sitting around with a bunch of stuffy scientists.
I posted this on the SDA thread about the CA mirror site, but really it is more relevant to this thread , apologies to those who get to read my english twice!!!
To all who believe that this will kill off AGW, its “science”, policies, etc all I can say is not a chance in hell!
AGW has never been about science, it has been and always will be about the politics of power.
AGW was always the means to an end, and with that end being so very, very near to completion this hack will stop NOTHING.
The politicians and elites pushing for more and more gov’t control are truly excited that the end-goal is so very, very near. Think of a vampire locked away for years that just pricked a fresh victim and tasted a drop of blood. The years of pent up lust are boiling to the surface, the rage is released and he will not be denied.
These politicians are no different, blood has been drawn (Kyoto, IPCC, Copenhagen) and the disease/death (AGW indoctrination for socialism/communism) has already begun settling in the victim. They know nothing but their own desires, care nothing for yours. Shining a bit of light on them now will do NOTHING. They may flee the scene of this one particular victim but they really haven’t gone anywhere, and with their lust at such extreme highs are more dangerous than ever.
Look to their agenda being advanced and regulations to start spewing forth at an unimaginable rate. By this time next year, this hack (inside job) will be forgotten and we’ll be covered with the slime of environmentalism from head to foot.
Sorry to burst your bubble here, but the wooden spike to kill this monster will need to be much bigger than provided by an tipster on a Russian FTP site.
This is a huge story that is being avoided by the MSM.
The cookups in the computer codes are a smoking gun.
This isn’t a smackdown of the AGW drivel, it is bigger, it’s a Piltdown!
“To all who believe that this will kill off AGW, its “science”, policies, etc all I can say is not a chance in hell!
AGW has never been about science, it has been and always will be about the politics of power.”
Posted by: Frenchie77 at November 23, 2009 8:17 AM
I agree with Frenchie77 largely with the exception that he seems to believe the spin that a hacker was responsible for outing the corruption at Hadley CRU.
It had to be an insider or whistle blower to get access to the released material.
I would also reiterate my previous posts that MSM not only in Canada but also the US and Great Britain are completely complicit in the fraud that is Kyoto, AGW , Cap and Trade,and now the coverage and propaganda which will emanate from Copenhagen in December.
The internet is the only reliable instrument left on the face of the earth to uncover the fraud that has been fed to us by MSM for decades.
Must see video
This is damning criticism. Very understandable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac
I am completely disheartened with the complete lack of coverage these bombshells are getting from our MSM. I knew they were biased, I just didn’t realize it had reached the point where they would actually help to fabricate a complete lie in order to control the will of the people. It’s like something straight out of fascist Europe during WWII and the communist wave in the following decades, with the state run media delivering a complete work of fiction. I remember laughing at this guy . Little did I know I’d see our very own media perform the exact same feat less than a decade later. “Earth to the AGW camp, the bombs are going off in your capital. The tanks have arrived.”
I’ve been looking back and reading up on th Bre-X scandal in the 90’s. It appears eerily similar to the AGW scam only with the AGW on such a larger scale. It seems the alarmists followed the same script of fraud and deceit. It’s all about the money.
Now – who can we get to take a helicoper ride…..
Rich said: “It’s a Piltdown!”
Piltdown was a hoax.
CRU/AGW is a deliberate fraud.
Dr. Tim Ball explains:
“Global Warming is often called a hoax. I disagree because a hoax has a humorous intent to puncture pomposity. In science, such as with the Piltdown Man hoax, it was done to expose those with fervent but blind belief. The argument that global warming is due to humans, known as the anthropogenic global warming theory (AGW) is a deliberate fraud. I can now make that statement without fear of contradiction because of a remarkable hacking of files that provided not just a smoking gun, but an entire battery of machine guns.”
“The Death Blow to Climate Science”
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/17102
Too funny!
cold fusion maz2 ? well, cold fusion + $billions…
AGW is a deliberate UN fraud, much bigger than one of its earlier publicized frauds, the Iraqi Oil-for-Fraud scam.
Even today, CNN headlines ‘global warming’, threatening an apocalyptic scenario of damage caused to sea ports by the ice caps melting.
As has been pointed out by many, facts are utterly irrelevant in this fraud because the agenda has nothing to do with helping anyone, even those assumed affected by ‘warming’.
AGW is an anti-capitalist, anti-Western attack, an economic attack much as Islamic fascism is a military/societal attack. Both are geared to the destruction of the West and industrialism.
The politicians and elites pushing for more and more gov’t control are truly excited that the end-goal is so very, very near. ~ Frenchie77
…so very, very near…maybe, but events like this whistle-blower make me want to dance.
Canadian MSM is complicit in the deceit and misinformation in regards to AGW, Kyoto etc. Copenhagen?
Is it any wonder they remain silent on the fraudulent numbers by “warmist” scientists?
Thank God for the Internet, the Judi McLeod’s at Canada Free Press, the Kathy Shaidle’s Five Feet of Fury and of course the the Kate McMillans’s and SDA!
The truth will out, eh?
I like Carbongate better than Global Warming Gate.
meanwhile CBCpravda ignores this story and plans to go ahead with the Gore/ Suzuki AGW special.
next week they are puttin 9-11 conspiracy theory on the Fifth estate.
Mr. Harper , open this Gate, tear down this Corp.
Recently CBC featured The Current program, hosted by Dr Fruit Fly, Then it interviewed James Hoggan, Chair of the Suzuki Foundation on Climate Coverup. The balance for Hoggan was Lawrence Solomon of NP. You can read about his experience on NP web, FP comment: What She Didn’t Ask. According to his account A-M Tremonti didn’r bother hiding her contempt for his opinion. With this new information from the CRU, would it not be fair to at least mention the story on CBC?
If you think so, the address for their ombudsman is ombudsman@CBC.ca
I don’t expect any positive result, but if enough people complained it might get their attention.
Frenchie is right in the the warmist elites will try to ignore this revelation and discredit is, but we have yet to see what Rush and Glenn and others will do starting this morning when they get back to work.
It takes a bit of time to analyze and prepare a credible assault on these lying monsters.
True, they will never go away (unless we kill millions of them and put a bounty on the heads of anyone who tries this fraud again – and that would be my first choice in dealing with them) they will morph to the next big scary guilt trip and start over again.
I feel we are part of the two Lazarus’s in the old Star Trek episode – locked in eternal battle at the point where two universes are jointed etc…
ET…you are dead on the money with the UN comment:
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/the_copenhagen_con_same_demand_different_excuse/
The UN now uses “climate change” as the reason why developed countries should give 0.7% of their cash up to everybody else.
It’s sickening to read. I encourage everybody to read this and distribute widely. Discuss it calmly with people. It’s here in black and white.
I have strongly suspected AGW was crap ever since I first heard about it, since I remember the Returning Ice Age crap from the 1970’s. I also know enough about computer models to realize anything based on them is very questionable.
I knew it was crap for sure when Algore the gun control liar climbed on the band wagon.
Proof it was crap arrived when Kate started posting pictures of barbecues next to NOAA temperature recorders. That survey of NOAA sites was inspired genius by the Climate Audit site.
Some people are just slow off the mark, I guess.
This latest revelation is at the naming names stage. Now we not only know and can prove AGW is crap, we can point and say “THAT is the guy.”
We are also being gifted with something else. Just keep track of who tries to bury this, and you will know who your true enemies are. Same as the Ft. Hood terrorist attack, this beautiful event is ripping the camoflage off the people trying to destroy your way of life.
I’m keeping score, oh yeah.
“I have strongly suspected AGW was crap ever since”
…I read that Chretien’s Enviro Minister said that Kyoto was our best chance to spread wealth and justice around the world.
Guest op-ed by Nigel Lawson, Chancellor of the Exchequer 1983-89, today in the Times
Copenhagen will fail – and quite right too
Abe Froman at November 23, 2009 11:04 AM
[….True, they will never go away (unless we kill millions of them and put a bounty on the heads of anyone who tries this fraud again – and that would be my first choice in dealing with them) they will morph to the next big scary guilt trip and start over again.]
Frenchie77 and Joe Molnar…pretty much.
This cancer is so mastasticized globally is excise easilly. These creeps regardless of how thorough the pogram will still be skulking about like the forgotten Japanese into the 1970’s on various Pacific islands.
After the fall of the Berlin wall, you would think the EU would be wiser than adopt socialist agendas and so easilly fall victim to this climate fraud.
Mann-oh-Mann!
HARRY_READ_ME.txt from a programmers perspective at MarketTicker Forums.
I am beginning to believe that “The Rainbow Connection” is actually about global warming.
Al Gore to skeptics:
“So we’ve been told and some choose to believe it, I know there wrong wait and see.”
“Someday we’ll find it, the Rainbow Connection, the lovers, the dreamers and me.”
Class Action Lawyers Opening Statements with Al Gore behind the defendants table:
“Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it. Looks what its done so far”
“Gurpreet Bassi”?
Debauchment of youth by AGWarmists.
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“Protesting students say PMO asked them to stop calling
Students from a Mississauga high school reached out and touched the Prime Minister’s Office today, and are claiming that the PMO touched back.
Students from Woodland School called en masse as part of a demonstration, aimed at urging Stephen Harper to attend the UN Climate conference in December, which will be held in Copenhagen.
It appears their message was getting through a little too well.
The school’s office manager, Gurpreet Bassi, says someone identifying themself as being from the PMO called urging her to “please have (the) students stop calling — they are jamming up the switchboard.””
http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20091122/pmo_091122/20091122/?hub=TorontoNewHome
?”Gurpreet Bassi?”
http://www.filmicafe.com/visit_user_profile.php?user_id=6789
cal2 @ 10:20 said “Mr. Harper , open this Gate, tear down this Corp.” Amen to that in spades. Sell it, dump it, privatize it, whatever, just get rid of this Marxist mouthpiece.
BTW, FoxNews, on the Bill Hemmer/Megan Fox hour at about 7:20 EST, there was a segment about the CRU files and emails with Chris Hornen, author of “Red Hot Lies” and some warmonger from an organization I believe was called “Climate Entrepreneur”
Chris Hornen easily won the debate.
You need to see deeper meaning of this horrible caricature at science.
Western academia is dead, it’s been penetrated, seduced, corrupted and subjugated by KGB. You should have better looked after your thinkers and warriors.
I see this as nothing but another link in the chain of events, devised to obliterate Western economy and transfer its wealth to the socialist block.
Any real environmentalist, after the initial disappointment of realizing they have been lied to, should be elated by this news.
This means the polar bears are safe, doesn’t it?
If the bears were all going to die because of the AGW these ‘scientists’ told us about, and now that AGW turns out to be a fraud, it should mean the bears are safe.
Where is all the dancing and celebrating?
The potential extinction of the polar bears was front and center in the news, shouldn’t the disappearance of this threat to them be equally big news?
Like if they REALLY cared about the environment?
Where are the ‘POLAR BEARS SAFE!’ headlines?
This is like finding out from the doctor that the lab mixed up the results and that thing on your ass isn’t cancer, it’s just a boil.
And where do they get this “tree-ring data” from? Why from cutting down trees, Hey, hey? And how much you wanna bet that the likes of Gore and Suzuki practice Bikram Yoga, where they pump up the heat in the room to 105 F; hey what? It’s not us and Albertans and other red-necks who are destroying the world, it’s the greens who live in places like Kitsilano and Point Grey and similar neighbourhoods in Toronto.
‘Mr. Harper , open this Gate, tear down this Corp.’ posted by Cal2
Corp = CBC
Our Prime Minister invited the ‘journalists’ to look in the dark corners…they are not looking..fire them all. The CBC is a drag on the taxpayer; AGW is an msm propped up hoax; they are all crooks – what do AGW and the Liberano Party and CBC have in common – they are all crooks robbing the taxpayers for their own agendas and bank accounts. CTV are equally corrupt, IMO – along with the msm newspapers.
Cal2 – you have given us taxpayers our battle cry; lets roll..
But Stan, the Polar bears aren’t safe. They’re falling from the skies. Haven’t you seen the vedeo?
It’s a difficult choice for the MSM “science” reporters … do they pronounce themselves as fools or fraudsters? I suggest they pick fools … works for the NDP … people are more likely to forgive an idiot than a grifter.
Global WarmingGate
That is such a nice catchy and descriptive moniker.
Don’t you enter the Global WarmingGate like Dante’s Divine Comedy only to discover an “Inferno”?
The “Hope ‘n Whoring” treaty will make the UN Iraq Oil for Food scandal look like Bernie Madoff’s ponzi scheme on steroids.
They spend millions on space probes looking for intelligent life in the universe. If they find it on earth let me know.
Maybe we should spend billions on the search for human integrity…
Oh yeah, I forgot you can’t legislate honesty.
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Rush just reported that the New York Times is refusing to publish the emails saying that they have a policy of not publishing words “not intended for the public eye.”
Unbelievable.
maz2 said “CRU/AGW is a deliberate fraud” and who could deny that statement. Still there is a problem, the MSM don’t do math or science it’s just too complicated, so they rely on handouts from the fraudsters to explain AGW/global warming/climate change or whatever it is called this week. When the story is finally written it will be with reference to these fraudsters “for balance” and the consensus will be the same as most idiot politicians statements – it was done with the best intentions to transfer money to Africa.
Lets concentrate on the fraud, after all Al Capone was brought down by the IRS. There are emails within the current release of the FOI.zip file related to tax avoidance, perhaps more information is required or the proponents tax returns from the last few years need to be reviewed? We should be demanding that the IRS and the Revenue Service of UK review their funding and salaries.
A tad off subject but I’m sure readers will want to know that Major Nidal Hasan has no sensation from the nipples down; of course he’s never had much feeling from the nipples up, either. That way he won’t feel the trap-door open, well, not in his feet anyway.
“Once their comments are published, the blogs take over and public confusion grows deeper.”
“It’s a shame.”
It’s SDA’s fault, and others, spreading “public con(sic)fusion”. Tsktsk tsk—
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“Hamilton: Why media tell climate story poorly”
http://www.thestar.com/business/cleanbreak/article/729339–hamilton-why-media-tell-climate-story-poorly
Two updates. One, Limbaugh just did most of his first hour on this story. Kate, your blog is Limbaugh’s show prep. You should get money.
Two, I just got a flyer in the door for “Notice of public meeting and proposal to engage in a renewable energy project” Nanticoke Wind Facility, forsooth.
Data available at http://www.nanticokewindfarm.ca
This AGW-is-BS revelation should provide some dandy ammunition for the meeting, eh?
larben, Hasan has a spinal cord injury? Wow. He is going to suffer now. Every appeal and court delay is just going to make it keep going on and on and on… Its appropriate.
That’s what went around coming back around, Lefties. We call it “Justice” for short.
Imagine the sh1t-storm coming around for the Algore/Suzuki crowd. How many have they killed so far?
While the carnage of this hacking is frickin’ BRILLIANT, the reality is that air time and headlines still pander to the AGW cult. Talk to some of your apolitical coworkers or friends about this hacking or about climate change in general. LIke me, suspect you’ll receive lots of tut-tutting around the lack of time to keep up with current affairs. Even an East Indian contractor in the U. S. for over 10 years only follows home country news and global warming is not on their radar.
On the other hand, special thanks to Al Gore for the remarkably warm Fall we’re enjoying. It made it to the 60’s this past weekend. Good job, Al.
“This means the polar bears are safe, doesn’t it?”
Not only are the polar bears safe, but isn’t racism over?
Thank-you M.Jackson for ending racism and saving the polar bears; and congrats on your AMA.
There is no way in God’s green Earth that even 1% of the MSM puppets understand what happened with the hacked e-mails.
It’s way over the heads of them because they spent way too much time in drama class and way too little time in science and the logical classes.
“Polar bears good, oil bad’ is about as complex an idea as they can understand.
If you do write them and explain any of it, try not to use big multisyllabic terms like ‘wheelbarrow’ or ‘cardboard box’.
I got 11 of the 12 correct on the quiz. I have emailed the ombudsman of the CBC