100 Replies to “The First American Prime Minister In Waiting”

  1. I am totally fed up with the Conservative Party and I’m sure I’m not alone. If I wanted a red government,I would have voted for Jack. If seems to me that the Liberals can walk right into the middle with the NDP and Conservatives on the hard left. Heck, the last time I had any faith in our fiscal governance, Paul Martin was Minister of Finance. Boy, that’s very hard for a righty to say.

  2. i dunno….IMO PMSH and his government are the best thing we’ve had in 35 years…i’m very satisfied to date and yes, i do understand many necessary things yet to be done simply have to wait for a majority in the House…
    i think he’s prudently patiently taking things step by step and hoping NOT to be overtaken by events….
    a lot of people here act like modern liberals…in the sense they have ‘inflated expectations’…that ‘chafe at the limitations reality places on their idealism”…
    if you can’t get what you want overnight you want to burn the place down….

  3. Please understand that I have neither love nor admiration for Mr Ignatieff and shudder to think of him as Prime Minister of Canada. He has all of the defects of his uncle, George Grant, with none of the virtues. That said, I don’t think that we should hold his absence from the country against him. Were people on this list complaining that the new Governor of Kandahar was unsuitable because of his time hanging about in Canadian academia? Were we dismissing all of those Ottawa Somalis who have gone home from their businesses or civil service appointments to become premiers and ministers in Puntland and other pirate playgrounds? And to go back in time, did we see anything amiss in Andrew Bonar Law and Max Aitken heading to the UK to make their political way?
    It might actually have been possible for Mr Ignatieff to have learned something useful in his time abroad and come home with insights and experiences that would have made him a compelling leader. It didn’t happen, but it could have done.
    So drop the xenophobic tone and focus on the big issue, i.e., Ignatieff’s bankrupt and/or hidden agenda and the unpleasant likely results of its implementation.

  4. “when did my fellow countrymen become so ignorant that they think words will change anything?
    Posted by: old white guy at May 5, 2009 2:18 PM ”
    Ummmmmm…..I would venture right around the time that Turdeau started his second term of socialism.(hey…firefox says Turdeau is spelled wrong!Crap…the lefties have even got to it)

  5. roseberry – I don’t think your comparisons are valid. You are comparing states that are or were in a state of extreme civil and military unrest, which forced people to flee those countries and then, only return later – with Ignatieff’s choosing to leave Canada, not because of it being in a state of war – but for his own career.
    Ignatieff has never shown any interest in the Canadian economic, political, social or other reality. His focus has been exclusively international and in particular, the international relations in Europe, the ME, Asia and the USA. He has written nothing on Canada’s role in any international area. And nothing on Canada in any other area as well. Nothing.
    Our criticisms have absolutely nothing to do with ‘xenophobia’ and it’s quite astonishing for you to make such an assertion. Our criticisms of Ignatieff have to do with his total indifference to Canada, both in his intellectual output and in his career activities.
    Yet, despite this obvious indifference to Canada, he assumes that he has the right, the duty, the capability, to arrive here, after 30 years absence – the prime years of his career – and have us accept him as our Prime Minister. Rather similar to the old Governor General being sent over from Britain.
    Therefore, we can only conclude that we Canadians and Canada, are part of his career agenda. And you know what? Some of us object to being used by someone else as a notch on his career agenda. We don’t like being used by Ignatieff. Get it?

  6. I say, let it be and let the times that are coming to crumble all liberatchicks into the dust bin of history.

  7. Liberal Iggy dumped/retreated from his Tamil voters.
    The Tamils will vote for Taliban Jack LaytoNDP.
    Liberal Iggy shrugged off the supporters of the murderous Tamil Tigers.
    Why?
    Why were they “treated like swine-flu sufferers”?
    Kay gets this wrong: “A delegation of hand-picked Tamil moderates was permitted a brief, private meeting with Ignatieff.”
    If this meeting was “private”, why is it public knowledge?
    More: “leading to the pathetic sight of Liberal backbenchers shouting luke-warn encouragement from the other side of the street.”
    This is key for Iggy:
    >>> Kay says Iggy has
    “His eye on the bigger prize, which can’t be won if mainstream voters see the Liberals as an amoral patchwork of parochial constituencies.”
    “The result: Tamils have lost their friends in Ottawa just as they are losing the war in Sri Lanka. All in all, a very bad year for the people carrying the Tamil Tiger flags.”.
    …-
    “Jonathan Kay on Tamils’ double-loss: Losing the war in Sri Lanka, losing influence in Ottawa
    Tamil-Canadians I’ve spoken with in recent weeks are enduring a double blow. On the other side of the world, their family members and old friends are suffering amidst the Sri Lankan army’s methodical fight to the finish against the Tamil Tigers. Here in Canada, meanwhile, they’ve been abandoned by once-friendly politicians — and Tamil activists seem to have no idea why.”
    urlm.in/cjaw

  8. Just listened to Adler talking to 2 urban women about the disconnect between Harper and that voting bloc.
    All I can say is, there’s not any other voting bloc that has been manipulated and taken advantage of more than Urban women by the Liberal Party of Canada.
    This country is a f&*king joke.
    Are women in Canada really this shallow and gullible?
    Hey Kte,
    Adler gave you a plug wrt the Iggy pic and this post.
    Craig Westcott had this to say about running for the Harper CPC in the last election…
    Westcott also said there were hot issues being discussed among the public that weren’t picked up by the media.
    “The most common question I heard, and it kept coming up during the whole campaign, was: ‘What is your stand on abortion?’ I was really blown away. Someone asked me that when I was leaving the press conference, on the day I announced my candidacy. I was asked it every day after that… mostly from the pro-life side, but some from both sides… If that was the most common question (being asked) in the campaign, then it should have gotten some coverage.”
    Westcott said he was interviewed by a writer from The Scope who was noticeably surprised about his stance on abortion and gay marriage.
    “She couldn’t believe that I said women had a right to abortion, though she did eventually… and also couldn’t believe I had no trouble with gay marriage. She had me stereotyped as a Conservative dinosaur.”
    Westcott lays a lot of the blame for this stereotyping at the feet of journalists – including his own.
    “We haven’t, as journalists, done a good job explaining who or what Conservatives, Liberals or NDP are.”
    Westcott publishes two newspapers, The Business Post and The Irish Loop Post, and is already back at work putting together the next issues. I asked how he feels about the suggestion made by some observers that he could no longer work credibly as a journalist.
    “St. John’s is a small place and people think small, especially the journalists,” he said. “In most places around the world, people move back and forth between politics and journalism. And there are different kinds of journalists. There are mainstream, completely objective journalists who supposedly write for CBC or The Telegram, and I can tell you that not all of them are objective and unbiased. But they are supposed to be, and that’s their role. And then there are other journalists who fall to the left, right or centre, wherever on the political spectrum, and they are still journalists and are entitled to their views. Whatever their opinion is, whether you agree with it or not, it’s still helpful because it gets you to think about and analyze issues. So if I’m seen as a Conservative-leaning journalist, that doesn’t bother me an iota.”

  9. “Federal funds pour into the province, and into the pockets of private citizens. That’s The Quebec Way. ”
    That would be 25% of the Quebec Gov’t revenues come from Ottawa, via the Rest of Canada.
    That’s some elephant in Confederation’s room.

  10. Kate you have set off the Liberal phoning tree. To-day Adler referenced the graphic above and asked why women did not like PMSH. He took three phone calls and then explained how to get the talking points across without people knowing they were phoning from Liberal Headquarters. Priceless.

  11. Ignatieff reminds me of certain customers that i have that are in a certain field of employment, They know more about my trade & tell me how to run my business & are the cheapest customers i have.
    They think they are Experts on every subject Why? because they went to university to learn how to fill yours kids heads full of Socialist Crap.

  12. You always say America is better than Canada, so why wouldn’t he want to live there, at least for a while?

  13. The amoral depravity of IggyLiberals here.
    Akin/MSM says, “Liberals accused”; no, the Liberals did tell Toews he is disqualified to serve.
    …-
    “Liberals accused of telling Toews his failure to speak French disqualifies him for a minister’s job
    While I was busy listening to energy executives speak to a subcommittee of the Industry Committee, Treasury Board President Vic Toews was appearing before the Standing Committee on Official Languages.
    Toews (left) was there to discuss a “Study of the Transfer of Certain Duties Related to Official Languages from the Canada Public Service Agency to the Treasury Board.”
    Conservatives say that during the committee’s proceedings, Liberal MPs Pablo Rodriguez and Jean Claude D’Amours told Toews he was unfit to serve because he does not speak both official languages.
    Toews, born in Fildelfia, Paraguay in 1952 and a former attorney general of Manitoba, speaks Spanish, German and English. About one of every five voters in his riding of Provencher is a francophone. And yet, as Toews says, he has always won the polls in the franchophone areas of his riding.
    “English or French may not be my first language and I may not have been born in this country but I would not have believed that the Liberal members on the Official Languages committee from Honore- Mercier (Pablo Rodriguez) and Madawaska – Restigouche (Jean-Claude D’Amours) – would tell me (and millions of other Canadians) that because I do not speak both official languages we are unfit for public office,” Toews told me.
    But Rodriguez (born in Argentina, incidentally), in an interview after Question Period, said Toews is over-reacting. He and D’Amours were critical of Toews for two reasons. First, he said, a minister of the Crown who is supervising a bilingual federal program ought to be bilingual. Second, in Rodriguez’ view, Toews was not well briefed on the matters that he was to speak to the committee about.
    My colleague Mike De Souza was at the Languages committee and will have the full play-by-play shortly.”
    http://davidakin.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2009/5/5/4175983.html

  15. Merle Underwood: “why is ‘Chretian’ pushing for an election in June?”
    I’m sure it’s because unless the Librano$ get back into power soon, they won’t be able to use the Kyoto Accord as a vehicle to redistribute wealth, all the better to channel funds into Mo Strong’s, Chretien’s, and Martin’s business interests in China. I suspect that Power Corp has its fingers in these various Chinese pies as well.
    It’s been a long time — well, three years — since the Liberals have been able to get their hands on Canada’s tax revenues for use in their particular scanda … er, schemes.
    The Shawinigan Strangler’s in a real rush to get the LPC fingers into the tax revenue pie, seeing as Liberals don’t seem to think they need to use their own money for Liberal “projects.” They’d much rather use OUR money which will make them very wealthy while we, the plebs, eke out an existence by the sweat of our brows with very few rewards for our hard work.
    In short, Chretien, Count Iggula, and co. operate on the Feudal System where there are Lords and there are vassals: The Librano$ are the Lords and the rest of us are the vassals.
    ‘Works for them.

  16. I hereby volunteer to move to Vancouver for the duration of my stay in office, if Canada makes me PM.

  17. As for Count Iggula not having connections with Power Corp, I’m not totally sure this is so. I have no proof he does. However, he’s A LIBERAL, and it seems like the Desmarais Family has been pulling the LPC strings for a mighty long time, starting with Trudeau (and maybe even before) and every other Liberal PM since then — and Brian Mulroney’s PM’s office.
    It’s hard to imagine Iggy getting to where he has without some kind of support from Power Corp, some kind of arrangement which we aren’t privy to. I’d be very surprised if Iggy was able to be crowned leader-prince of the Liberals without the help of the Desmarais Family, quite probably in the LPC backrooms.

  18. “”Liberals accused of telling Toews his failure to speak French disqualifies him for a minister’s job”
    Never stopped the Lieberals from selecting Dion as their leader and potentially our PM . . . and he can’t speak English.
    Go figure . . .

  19. To see The Igniter, surrounded by the Igginauts, and with the MSM dutifully rousing the Useful Iggiots says it all about how far this country fell under the Cretin, True-dope and Fartin’.
    The Power-Demarais cabal, as ET so ably outlined, has been having fits lately, particularly because there was a faint chance that Dion might end up somewhere close to the levers of patronage and power. It was the cabal that got rid of Dion, using the Coalition idiocy.
    When it comes to power, there’s no such thing as loyalty or reward for service. Not useful anymore? Out you go!
    As to the cabal’s plans, my money has always been on Rae when the music stops. He’s monstrously arrogant, connected by blood to Power Corp, beloved by the Toronto media, has a deep affinity for corporatist unionism, and can claim international status. The absolutely perfect Liberal Front Man.

  20. “”Liberals accused of telling Toews his failure to speak French disqualifies him for a minister’s job”
    Never stopped the Liberals from selecting Chretien as their leader and our PM and he didn’t speak either English or French – not sure what he spoke, but I never quite did understand anything he said.

  21. patrick b – I agree; Desmarais, PowerCorp are behind Rae.
    But I have trouble linking Desmarais to Ignatieff. He has no business connections, from what I understand, therefore, they can’t get at him via business.
    Then, who’s behind Ignatieff? Who got him to suddenly give up his UK-USA intellectual elitist positions to move into an area that he has never, ever, been a part of – namely, politics. Politics, which on the surface, until you gain power and can control the vote – requires elections. And Ignatieff can woo the latte intellectual crowd but can he slither his way past people who live in real life, not a fictional world?
    So – if it’s clear that the Chretien old guard, and that must include Martin – are behind Rae, because they are all part of the Cabal, then, who brought Ignatieff up to Canada? There is no way that he thought this up on his own. He has never given any indication of the slightest interest in either Canada or the political scene.

  22. “Before returning in 2005, the last time Iggy had first-hand real life knowledge of what it is to live in Canada:
    – teenager Paula Abdul made her debut in the b-movie “Junior High School”
    – the first ever cellular mobile phone was introduced
    – Space Invaders was the hip video game
    – Grease & Saturday Night Fever were in the movie theatres
    – a dozen eggs were 50 cents
    – the big political news was Camp David with Jimmy Carter in the Whitehouse
    – Happy Days and Three’s Company topped TV ratings
    – the USSR still existed and THEY were the military presence in Afghanistan
    – the Cold War was still on and coming to an end as the USSR started to crumble
    And THIS is supposed to be the liberal who’s the most in-tune with Canada they can find???”

  23. ET ,
    As one of the most enlightened commenters on any site , anywhere , the answer is likely too simple ……. co-packaging . Sell the same shit under the same brand , with slightly different names . Oh , and by the way money has never been an object .

  24. BTDT – Ikky was a roommate and good friend of Boob Rhy when they were ‘students’- I imagine that Bobby didn’t have many friends that were not pre approved by Unca’ Mo.
    ET – Ikky wrote a whole chapter in his novel “Blood Ties” about the Quebec and Canada internal conflict. He lumped the nation of Canada in with Israel/ ME, Britain/N. Ireland/Ireland, Ceylon, Somalia. He didn’t hold out much hope for Quebec and the rest of Canada ever being on the same page. Ikky never mentioned the Civil War divide in USA.
    Maybe he should be running for Czar of the Blocheads.

  25. ET: “So – if it’s clear that the Chretien old guard, and that must include Martin – are behind Rae, because they are all part of the Cabal, then, who brought Ignatieff up to Canada? There is no way that he thought this up on his own.”
    Exactly, so who, preceisely, is behind Iggy? I still maintain that the Desmarais must be in there somewhere, because they have far too much to lose if the Librano guy becomes PM and they’re not somewhere there.
    If not Power Corp, then who?

  26. Iggy’s eminence-not-so-hidden-grise: AA, aka Alfred Apps, aka the TO Party.
    “*Alfred Apps, the Toronto lawyer who is likely to be the next national president of the party.”
    Apps is now president of the Liberal Party of TO.
    “Alfred Apps (AlfredApps) on Twitter
    Name Alfred Apps; Location Toronto; Bio Lawyer, husband, father, change agent for Canada and the Liberal Party. 1916 Following · 630 Followers …
    twitter.com/AlfredApps”
    *http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/598756

  27. I’m highly aware of Bob Rae’s connections to Power Corp through “Uncle” Mo Strong and his brother, John, who is an executive with Power Corp. I’m also aware that Rae and Ignatieff were students at the same time at Trinity College, U. of T., one of Canada’s only “ivy league” campuses.
    So, with all of these (mutual) connections, is it so far-fetched that Iggy is somehow connected to Power Corp and that they might not be moving behind the scenes to prop him up?
    If that’s the case, I still have a question that I posed the other day on some thread, not sure which one: What’s Bob Rae up to? Why’s he been so docile in letting Iggy take over the LPC leadership?
    I smell a rat. ‘Talk about a hidden agenda. I want to know what the LPC are up to, crowning on centre-stage the highly incompetent Iggy, with Bob Rae lurking in the wings and Chretien whipping up election fever …
    The only thing that seems to be crystal clear is that Iggy didn’t cook up this scenario himself. So, who’s the head cook?

  28. This has “legs”.
    But, Iggy will get the “facts” and report back ASAP. Iggy is an old soft-shoe dance-man, a sort of Bojangles in white face. Ever hear/see Iggy do “Chicken and Biscuits”? Iggy picked this up while at Havvadd with O.
    …-
    “Claims against Dhalla bring controversy on eve of caregiver report
    OTTAWA – A report on the treatment of temporary foreign workers and live-in caregivers is set to land in Parliament amidst a brewing controversy involving a domestic complaint against a high-profile Liberal MP.
    Ruby Dhalla, the MP for Toronto-area riding Brampton-Springdale, finds herself at the centre of a storm amid allegations of illegal employment and abuse levelled by two women hired to look after Dhalla’s mother.
    Dhalla declined interview requests Tuesday but did issue a statement:
    “I take the assertions in today’s Toronto Star story very seriously,” it said. “I have hired a lawyer to vigorously defend my reputation and ensure the facts of this matter are fully explored and corrected.”
    Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff would only say he’s looking into the facts of the matter.
    Magdalene Gordo, 31, and Richelyn Tongson, 37, say they were hired in early 2008 to work in Dhalla’s family home in Mississauga, Ont., to care for her mother, Tavinder Dhalla.
    The live-in caregivers told the Toronto Star they earned $250 a week working 12-to 16-hour days, and that Dhalla seized their passports.
    The claims come as an almost year-long study of temporary foreign workers by the Commons standing committee on citizenship and immigration is to be released Wednesday.
    Immigration Minister Jason Kenney said he couldn’t comment on specific allegations nor would he deign to “politicize the complaints process.”
    But his assistant, Alykhan Velshi, later circulated to reporters a press release from the Independent Workers Association that called on Ontario’s attorney general to investigate Dhalla.
    Kenney himself, while saying he didn’t know the facts of the Dhalla allegations, was emphatic that holding the passports of foreign caregivers is offside.”
    “NDP MP Olivia Chow noted that the allegations range from mistreatment to tax evasion and lack of proper worker documentation.
    Chow suggested the police might need to be involved because “if all those allegations are true, then there are three or four laws at least that have been broken, whether it’s labour laws or immigration regulations.”
    http://www.canadaeast.com/news/article/657616

  29. Bit off topic, but related to an Ignatieff disciple of sorts… Garth Turner.
    Garth was scheduled to be on The Michael Coren Show tonight (live-to-tape in the morning). But he canceled and, like many times in the past, has been caught in yet another lie. On Coren’s facebook page, Coren points out Garth’s continued dishonesty…
    Coren: “He [Turner] sent us a nasty e-mail 50 mins after he was due to be on set, explaining he had just read [my Saturday] column. Problem is, we’d spoken to his publicist earlier in the day and she told us that he had read and discussed the column days earlier! What is it with this man? More to follow. Much more to follow.”

  30. Ruby asks, “Chicken and Biscuits”? Bin there, Ruby says; done that. Equality, don’t-ya-know?
    (NaomiBarff Alert’s Womano-a-Womano talk; listen in.)
    …-
    “What the well-dressed MP will wear — equality
    By Naomi Lakritz, Calgary Herald
    “Last week, I wrote about how Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff is trying to find ways to woo women voters, and how maddening it is when male politicians talk about “women’s issues” as if women were a mono-lithic bloc. I didn’t know at the time that I was writing part 1 on that issue. Part 2 only materialized Thursday when I had a chance to chat with Ruby Dhalla, Liberal MP for Brampton-Springdale.
    I remember Dhalla from when she was a little kid in Winnipeg. She was always getting her picture in the newspaper either because she’d walked off with the top prize at the school science fair or because she was, even at that young age, a dedicated community activist. In fact, when I heard that she’d been elected to Parliament back in 2004, I couldn’t believe it was the same Ruby Dhalla from Winnipeg. How could she possibly be all grown up already? Then I decided that it would be definitely unfair if time had stood still for Ruby, keeping her forever 12, and I was the only one who had grown older in the interim. Where is the justice in that?
    Dhalla was in Calgary this week, on her way to Vancouver for the Liberals’ convention, and after we reminisced a bit about Winnipeg, we got down to discussing women in politics–and how far they have yet to go.
    Take the fashion factor, for example.
    Dhalla wishes that people would focus on what a woman candidate is saying, not what she’s wearing. Observing the recent U. S. presidential campaign was exasperating. “They talked about what types of suits Hillary Clinton was wearing, and about Sarah Palin’s hair and glasses. Did anyone ask (Barack) Obama, ‘where did you get your shirt?’ ” Dhalla says.
    And don’t get her started on the Belinda Stronach-Peter MacKay romance: “How relevant is anyone’s personal life?” she asks.
    Dhalla ran into a variation on this theme herself when someone introduced her at a gathering in Calgary this week with the remark that “it’s great that Ruby hasn’t lost her femininity.”
    Imagine introducing Stephen Harper by announcing that it’s great that being prime minister hasn’t caused him to lose his masculinity.
    The trouble is, Dhalla says, the image of a politician is of a “male, 60 to 70 years old, with white hair.”
    urlm.in/cjdh

  31. Someone should ask Iggy how his little brother is doing. At Upper Canada College Iggy told his brother not to talk or be seen with him. Quite the reaction to family from a guy that lived human rights. Actually I kind of understand. I wouldn’t want to be seen with Iggy but he isn’t my brother. ’nuff said.

  32. Sing!
    T is for Troll…that’s good enough for me…
    Sorry Cookie!

  33. Here is Naomi’s Part 3.(see above)
    It’s writing itself on the internet/blogs.
    NannyGate? DhallaPalooza? IggyNannyBollyO?
    AdScam? No, that’s Liberal Ad$Cam Chretien/MartinJr’s Albatross.
    Got it: Liberal Iggy’sAlbatrOss.
    …-
    “frmgrl Says*:
    May 5th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
    Here is another one.
    Independent Workers Assoc Call for Inquiry into Ruby Dhalla’s Treatment of Her Nannies”
    http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/May200…
    *http://www.bluelikeyou.com/2009/05/02/short-time-…

  34. Glen “Are women in Canada really this shallow and gullible?” Yes, I am afraid that they are. I was with a group of women about a month ago and they were literally gushing over Obama. (These are not stupid women.) I was astonished at their gullibility and willingness to suspend judgement. I think that more than men, women voters tend to be easily swayed by superficial rhetoric. Frequently they are not knowledgeable about issues. If you challenge them on issues like the cuts to SOW and explain how money was put back and now goes to communities, they agree that this is a better use of money, but invariably this is a surprise to them — because of very poor media coverage of this (and many other) issues. Liberals play to women’s gullibility (everyone’s gullibility, really) more so than conservatives.

  35. ET:
    and his Harvard phase of five years as director of a Centre for Human Rights policy
    That should disqualify him with prejudice from any office. If that didn’t make him a Liberal facist Obama will.
    JMO

  36. The hounorable member from transformainial should
    remember that Canada is not stupid even if it boring.
    If he has anything of subatance to say , I will listen
    otherwise me nd most Canadians remain comfortble with Mr. haper ,,even if we are on old line conservatives
    john

  37. The hounorable member from transformainial should
    remember that Canada is not stupid even if it boring.
    If he has anything of subatance to say , I will listen
    otherwise me nd most Canadians remain comfortble with Mr. haper ,,even if we are on old line conservatives
    john

  38. mikael iggynaive’s wife is a uggly broad…and i just wont stand for that in these days anyway…maybee ugly briads in our cuntrys futryu can be first broads but i suer hope not…
    it just pissess ne off.

  39. “As for Count Iggula not having connections with Power Corp, I’m not totally sure this is so. I have no proof he does”
    You have to google it to find it, but Desmarais introduced Count Igula at some pretentious event back at McGill — I can’t remember the year — somewhere between 2004 and 2006 if memory serves.
    PowerCorp makes sure to have their rubber glove encased hand up the ass of every one within 50 miles of the corridors of power, so I doubt they’ve exempted Iggy from the turn to the left and cough routine.

  40. Linda I think you are right on. I have a freind that gives me an idea how women think. She said PMSH cut funding to women. I pointed out he increased spending but took the power to choose who gets it from NACSOW so it had to include all women. I hear a lot of that type of thing and I respond with the facts. I have done that with global warming, carbon tax and other issues. She isn’t a conservative but she would vote conservative. She gets her information from her freinds so I figure some gets back to them because she does question things.

  41. ET seems to be arguing that we should hold it against Mr Ignatieff that he chose “to leave Canada, not because of it being in a state of war – but for his own career.” This is hardly a disqualification for public office.
    I don’t know if “Ignatieff has never shown any interest in the Canadian economic, political, social or other reality.” Certainly he had taken no professional or public interest in Canadian affairs, but this may not reflect “total indifference to Canada” in his personal life and thoughts.
    My point is only that Mr Ignatieff demonstrates his flawed understanding of contemporary Canada and Canadians by his current words and actions. The false tone he sets may derive from his long absence from Canada, but we hear much the same nonsense from political leaders in Canada who have never ventured far from the GTA.
    Political leadership may be part of Mr Ignatieff’s “career agenda”, but it would be difficult to find many politicians for whom this would not be true. I can appreciate the distaste one might feel for “carpet-baggers”, but, unlike those who were victimized by the original “carpet-baggers”, we still have the right to vote and to persuade others to join us.
    I hope and trust, ET, that while we may disagree about the reasons Canadians should reject Michael Ignatieff, we will both being doing all we can to ensure that we do reject him and his party.
    Therefore, we can only conclude that we Canadians and Canada, are part of his career agenda. And you know what? Some of us object to being used by someone else as a notch on his career agenda. We don’t like being used by Ignatieff. Get it?

  42. Re:”connections with Power Corp” — The other king-pin not to be overlooked is Soros. Sorso may well be the power behind Obama. Ignatieff sat on the board of the Soros Foundation. May not mean anything — but then again, it might.
    Terry Tory — your conspiracy theory sounds about right to me.

  43. Lindal & Terry Tory,
    Interesting thoughts…keep diggin’ folks!!…the answer is out there albeit well buried (or so ‘they’ think).. These are scary times! Interesting leads re: Soros & Bilderberg…I’m going to follow up. Google up “Gold Cartel” and see how this may play into it. No need to wait for “the ACORN to fall from the tree”.
    Cheers

  45. I believe Mackenzie King, the longest serving PM in the British Commonwealth, also worked in the US for a period of time before becoming Canada’s PM. However, it wasn’t for the majority of his adulthood and he kept his home in Canada while working in the US for the Rockefellers.
    ~~favill~~

  48. In case anyone is wondering the proof of Iggy being of touch with Canada is now where better demonstrated by his attempt to be Prime Minister as leader of the Liberal party. It would seem he missed the entire history of Chretien/Martin destroying the Liberals and Liberal’s credibility.

  49. I may be a bit late to this conversation, but I am responding to the women and politics question. I have a dear ,dear friend that is very intelligent but she is sooo much in love with Obama that she will not entertain anything negative about him. We have almost come to blows on the subject and I have had to rest my case. I asked her to read Ezra Levants’ book “Shakedown” and she flat out refused. I was astonished as this is a woman that I thought had an open mind as she reads extensively and belongs to a book club that meets once a month.She would not give me a reason for her refusal but my guess is that she prefers to keep her eyes closed to reality. What more can I say?

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