The Guardian, April 2009 ……………………MSNBC, March 2008
WUWT: “The real question is, how often are we going to see the Wilkins Ice Shelf be a lead news story as poster child for “global warming” to illustrate ice loss in Antarctica that is actually growing. I guess as long as we have NSIDC’s Ted Scambos to help the media, it will be “something we get to see fairly often”.”
The photos have nothing to do with melting Ice Shelves. There is no guarantee they are even in the Antarctic; they are just photos of cracks in ice, which we even get on the St. Lawrenc e in winter (the cracks that is; the ice goes without saying).
~RW at April 18, 2009 6:51 PM
Exactly.
Excellent observation.
That’s really what the use of the twin photos suggests, that the story the photo done twice tells may not be the story or even related to the story that the illustrator is telling.
The suspension of disbelief or even the authenticity, if the ever was any, is gone.
It is becoming increasingly apparent that the media, is in no way, no how, interested in reporting actual facts.
Interpretation by assorted know it people is more important to the ‘journalists’ since it gives them enhanced chance to get creative and spin the nonsense by the prevailing winds of the government, bureaucracy and media cabal to maximize the obscene profits of the said cabal.
There is actually not risk to them involved since it is the taxpayer’s money they are using to get more of it.
In the one case of media, they have, are and will pay high price for spreading manure (an analogical term for those of totalitarian mind), which in other circumstance would be of useful purpose. Soon they may be a footnote in books on history.
Consider this story related on local level:
http://www.osoyoostimes.com/pMOT/more.php?id=1257_0_1_0_M14
and what actually was said, second comment:
http://www.osoyoostimes.com/pMOT/more.php?id=1259_0_1_0_M8
While this may be on local level, it is more common than not, through the mass media.
One would like to think that this is more likely than not to the acute laziness of “journalists’ rather than ideology, though one can be wrong.
Momar at April 18, 2009 11:54 AM
Sums it up rather well.
If ice sheets didn’t break off, the GLACIERS would eventually cover CONTINENTS.
Seems this was the case a couple thousand years ago, right? I’m glad thet break off into icebergs, keeping the glaciers in check.
Mother nature eventually balances things quite well….
Colin from Mission
I hope you don’t mind, but I sent a copy of your letter [with some editing and additional vehemance] to P.M. Harper with copies to the Finance Minister and the M. for the Environment. We really do have to make it clear to the politicians that we don’t believe in this AGW charade and it would be worth their while to develop some cojones on this issue.
Posted by: Shaken at April 18, 2009 10:09 PM
Thanks, that would be greatly appreciated. I read somewhere that it was on target. One must check for oneself.
Posted by: Shaken at April 18, 2009 10:09 PM
Thanks, that would be greatly appreciated. I read somewhere that it was on target. One must check for oneself.
Part of the problem may be lack of media detail
But WUTT isn’t really as curious as its slogan implies —
” Now, how is it that an ice shelf breaks up in the spring of 2008 and again in the spring of 2009″
RE : 2008
http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/bas_research/our_research/topics/climate_change/our_world/antarctic_peninsula.php
The most recent changes have been in Wilkins Ice Shelf, which lost around 500 km2 in 2008. [Feb-March 2008] What remains of Wilkins Ice Shelf, appears to be stabilized by a narrow strip of ice shelf between Charcot and Latady islands, it seems likely that when this strip is lost a significant portion of the remaining ice shelf will be threatened.
[ The Wilken’s ice shelf is about 16,000 km^2 ]
April 2009
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/04/wilkins-ice-shelf-collapse/
Since people are wanting to talk about the latest events on the Antarctic Peninsula, this is a post for that discussion.
The imagery from ESA (animation herehttp://www.esa.int/esaEO/SEMWZS5DHNF_index_0.html ) tells the recent story quite clearly – the last sliver of ice between the main Wilkins ice shelf and Charcot Island is currently collapsing in a very interesting way (from a materials science point of view).
For some of the history of the collapse, see our previous post. This is the tenth major ice shelf to collapse in recent times.
1978
Mercer, Nature, 1978, v271 pp.321-325
“One warning sign that a dangerous warming is beginning in Antarctica, will be a breakup of ice shelves in the Antarctic Peninsula just south of the recent January 0C isotherm; the ice shelf in the Prince Gustav Channel on the east side of the peninsula, and the Wordie Ice Shelf; the ice shelf in George VI Sound, and the ice shelf in Wilkins Sound on the west side.”
Bruce wrote —
“the Canadian Ice Service […] is what we rely on for ice navigation information through the short shipping season in the Arctic and the East Coast.”
http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/App/WsvPageDsp.cfm
Thanks for that. Very interesting. I think I’ll poke about a bit in their historical charts.
For anyone interested, I think it fits nicely with this database —
http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shiplocations.phtml
As Al Gore the great showman once said; There’s a seeker born every minute”.
Those who search for absolution to guilt complex neurosis are the stock and trade of the grifter. AGW is a monument to human frailty and cultural neurosis.
WL Mackenzie Redux, here, here.
We should give the good folks at MSNBC a break. Most of their viewers have no idea where Scotland is, let alone how big it is.
Of course, an ice shelf breaking up in the Spring – now that’s real news.
RW: “There is no guarantee they are even in the Antarctic; they are just photos of cracks in ice…”
Didn’t you notice the sign reading “South Pole: 2 km”? Must have been just off-camera. Not to worry – they can put it back in.