When the concept of “multiculturalism” was introduced to Canadians, most assumed it meant more pavilions at Folkfest.
43 Replies to ““Our snack are made from natural ingredients which occurs in nature naturally””
What do expect in a pretend country with pretend laws?
Canada stopped being a real country in about 1968.
No one respects Canada anymore and I am ashamed of it. I was born here. I would leave, but there is nowhere much better to go anymore. I am too old anyway, which, when I look at this world today, I am actually glad about.
Our snacks are made from natural proofs which occur in proofs proofusally. Makes about as much sense. And John V. I agree. Laws(or whatever you wanna call em nowadays) in Canuckistan only apply,and loosely, to us bigoted,racist whities.My Q to the Politic would be,are you going to the authorities with this problem? Oh wait. He/she is in BC. There are no authorities.
I really don’t mind the horrors to our english, in fact I’ve read worse here from “new” or ect.. or whoever you’ve proclaimed yourself this week. (Note, is he banned?)
If he was on welfare and threatening our freedoms with his “pretend it’s a religion”, then I’d feel different. I may even pile on.
… but perhaps his greatest misstep is that he’s attended a B.C. publicly funded school?
heck the last time “we” elected 3 liberal majorities in a row… oh never mind him.
Silly people, coming to Canada doesn’t make you Canadian. It just allows you to use a hyphen, as in Lebanese-Canadian, Afro-Canadian, Haitian-Canadian or even Jamaica-Torontonian. Being Canadian is now only a convenience, much like registering your steamships in Panama or Liberia.
When I read the link, I heard Abu from the Simpsons in my head.
When i saw the “naturally from nature, naturally” line I was getting ready for the no pesticide/organic blah blah blah.
Alot of the organic labelling out there, while maybe more gramatically correct, likes to beat that word “natural” to death in non-sensical ways as well.
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I’m assuming that “art equipment” probably is missing a few essential linguistic ingredients such as “state of the…art equipment.” After all, the package notes are trying to assure customers that everything possible has been done to ensure that their snack is naturally fresh and properly packaged…
I avoid any and all foods with even a whiff of having been processed or packaged somewhere other than in North America. Fortunately, the language on the packaging is usually a dead giveaway.
“Produce of Canada” apparently means only that the product in the package has been either packaged or distributed in Canada.
FAWGETTABOUTIT. Give me potato chips any day. At least I know what I’m eating, and although they might kill me eventually, it’ll probably take a few years. Who knows with the mysterious snacks from China, India, and elsewhere?
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when is the best season for pickled otters noses?
rams bladder?
If correct spelling and proper grammar are the benchmarks of a true Canadian, 90% of SDA readers should be deported.
You know, my Dad used to refer to Canadians as “commie canucks” back in the ’60s so leaning left has been an imperative north of the 49th for some time. Canadians are thus at the fore of societal trends in line with the U. S. coasts and thus always alarming to contemplate. After leaving one of the coasts some years back, I feel safe in this flyover region. Like JV above, I’ll be damn near dead before bhurka’s become legislated here.
Freekinn dorks trying to prove they know something by prattling about spelling on a blog…..
So the question that comes to mind is what beverage to enjoy with the Guru Snack…..
I don’t really care about the language issue. Outside La Belle, there are no language police and there shouldn’t be in Quebec for that matter.
What gets my goat is that some people are not required to follow the law while other people are.
What’s the point of laws if you only certain groups have to follow them?
And if you think this is too minor to bother with, Khadr proves our dusty Treason laws aren’t any better.
jeff davidson: “If correct spelling and proper grammar are the benchmarks of a true Canadian, 90% of SDA readers should be deported.”
Yeah, but Jeff, ‘minor difference: We’re not SELLING our stuff. It’s free!
This post isn’t about language or spelling, guys.
It’s about the double standard applied to packaging: If it’s a product from India, China, wherever (and we know they’re from outside of Canada because of the preposterous language they use), they don’t seem to have to pony up to Canadian standards which require, by law, that Canadian-MADE products list the ingredients on their packaging.
Aside from the fact that they use “natural” and “naturally” a ridiculous number of times, rendering them meaningless, they don’t leave the customer any the wiser when it comes to what’s actually in their product.
And, jeff, you’ve used a syllogism in your response above. No one’s questioning “Canadian” bona fides here. We’re questioning–or should be!–the double standard applied to Canadian-made goods and those simply packaged here. There’s a difference. Figure it out.
All your snack are belong to us.
What is interesting to me is that Shane Edwards bought the product anyway. He knew, somehow, that it was composed of peas, peanuts, salt, and chili powder – and he apparently has not died from it.
If they are breaking the law then just contact them and give them your opinion and help them improve.
I am impressed that they are starting a business – in another language – and have been able to make Shane Edwards a customer.
On English. The beauty of the English language is that it is so adaptable, expandable, and inclusive. It is not the queen’s english anymore. Every culture brings something to the language and actually improves it. So when some prude corrects you for saying ‘me and Joe’ instead of ‘Joe and I’, shove a hockey stick blade up there backsides and take a good wrist shot – because maybe in another language, ‘me and Joe’ is the natural way.
OMMAG: Chai. Or Raj beer.
You may have to hold your nose at the envirowacko concept of the “100 mile diet”, but at least it would protect you from scams like this. Of course a diet of ever-softening turnips, carrots, and spuds for seven months a year might be a little problematic too.
Wow I love the double standard among certain people on the right. On the one hand railing against such things as government meddling (mandatory bilingual labelling, packaging regulation, etc.), then screaming bloody murder the moment some “smelly immigrant” is caught in the slightest violation. Do you people really have nothing better to get riled up about? I have seen shit grammar from third-generation, Canadian university educated white Europeans FFS. It seems to be a sign of how dumbed down our society has become. Go do something productive or creative rather than nitpicking and maybe that trend will change.
ccon @ 11:44:
“…shove a hockey stick blade up there backsides…”
“up their backsides” would make more sense, as its not engrish.
Agitator, Jeff and like-minded ilk…
There exist a certain group of people, well represented on the right of the political spectrum but apparently non-existent on the left, who take objection to the presumption that laws (regardless of their obtrusiveness) apply only when convenient, or apply only to select classes of individuals, and that, particularly, the transgressions of non-white immigrant and so-called native Canadian individuals may blithely be waved away as of no consequence.
*No spelling errors were committed in this post.
**No logical errors, either.
***Grammar’s OK, too.
I’ll take their amusing pigeon English over government mandated French labelling , which is a daily reminder of the Trudeaupian legacy.
“smelly immigrant” declares the racist, Agitator.
Agitator
You’re not very bright, are you?
Do you not see the obvious difference between the idea that a law should be on the books and the idea that if the law IS on the books that it should apply to all, equally?
Obviously not. This is one reason you suffer the incurable disease of leftardism like Jeff and others too stupid to reason with (and you lot aren’t even interested in trying.)
Getting back to the topic, folks?
The “natural” implication on the packaging refers to the fact that, call me a liar, natural unprocessed products DON’T require a nutritional label; only processed foods. If you stop and think about that for a sec you’ll realize the logic.
That wouldn’t prevent a distributor from including nutritional info if he/she felt so inclined.
“This banana is really good for you!” đ
Oh yeh! And health warnings!!
“WARNING:This bag of peanuts may contain peanuts”
Alternative hypothesis, seeing as how BC is right into socialism in such a big way, maybe Mr. Proprietor of Guru Lucky has friends in high places? Or low places, depending on how you feel about it.
Of course it is also entirely possible the BC provincial food nannies just haven’t done their friggin’ job for twenty years and this guy has entirely escaped their notice. I could believe that one too.
Either way, maybe BC could consider outsourcing their food-cop business to a private concern who will actually DO THE JOB, and fire the hell out of a bunch of CUPE seat polishers who don’t.
Well jeffy, you’re still around, thought maybe you’d been deported somewhere beyond reason.
There’s quite a long list of “natural ingredients which occurs in nature naturally”, many not fit for human consumption. It’s buyer beware.
I wonder if the label was also in French. Although I haven’t seen this particular package, I’ve noticed that imported Asian foods often lack any French translation, particularly in Vancouver stores that are targeted to Asian customers.
Jewish Canadians have had problems getting imported traditional foods because of bilingualism laws, which are applied strictly to Manischewitz’s gefilte fish and similar products. Manischewitz claims it’s not economical to print separate labels for the Canadian market.
Why are the bilingualism laws applied more strictly to Jewish foods than to Asian foods?
Ulm, wouldnt it be up to the buyer, a member of the well known Pattison group, to ensure that the goods sold in their fine establishment meet all known guidelines?
So yes this local company has an obligation to put nutritional info on the packaging but the buyer at Pattison would have reviewed the product before it was placed in store….or should have.
Perhaps the Pattison food store isnt well run…certainly not being well regulated, unless there is a loophole they know of.
Perhaps this should be addressed with the store, you would be doing them a favour since they are more likely to be charged, being a well known entity.
Marc M; assuming that wasn’t a rhetorical question(?)…
Montreal has a large Jewish population, as does Toronto. I’d assume that any Kosher food importer would target his distribution to mainly those two, and Winnipeg. The Language Cops in Quebec would make the distributors life a living hell.
Yeh, that and politicians countrywide are desperate for the ethnic vote.
I’m continually amazed at how the Chinese community in Richmond B.C. get away with actively discouraging waspish shoppers in a couple of malls.
Charles M ….. Good one!
Frankly I’m scared of Asian beer.
Maybe one day I will get over that but my first ventures into the supposed “quality” brews have yielded NO compelling argument for them.
Of course if I actually needed something to wash down some chili peppered peanuts …..
The hot chili powder on the peanuts would be lethal to the unfriendly microbes, (which occur in nature naturally), so they become a safe,self cleaning treat.
Personally, I prefer completely unnatural food, you know, minus the salmonella and the e. coli — hasn’t hurt me so far. I’m particularly big on food that’s been irradiated, especially in the infrared spectrum like meat and lasagne — tastes better when it’s hot. And as for processing — pasteurize away. I can take it — yum!
I was thinking it might be a good idea for Asian or Indian food–or any food without ingredient labels–to list ingredients because of just two examples (among many more):
– soy sauce made in China was found to have been made from human hair; I’d like to know that if I was thinking of stocking it on my kitchen shelves;
and
– dog and cat food made in China was found with melamine in it (so the sellers could charge more, as it is sold by weight) and thousands of North American family pets died; I’d like to know if the food I was feeding my dog had melamine in it, because if I knew that it did, I wouldn’t buy it.
This isn’t a food-by-race thing; it’s all about consumer protection and produce companies not being able to slip under the wire just because their products are made elsewhere.
“This isn’t a food-by-race thing; it’s all about consumer protection and produce companies not being able to slip under the wire just because their products are made elsewhere.
Posted by: batb at July 23, 2008 8:31 PM ”
Amen batb. But we must also remember that what a lot of immigrants eat as “normal” products to them,would seriously harm most of us over-sanitized Westerns. Our immune systems can’t handle even normal western crap anymore. Did you know that in Cairo,asking for a steak(of whatever) not covered in flies to be cooked more then blue rare is considered a crime almost worse then spitting on the pedophile prophet?
But again,when it comes to labelling,if it ain’t from your garden,then buyer beware!
Oh,and Lizj….you mean these chili peanuts could give Ex-lax a run for its maoney?
Arenât the âthird-generation, Canadian university educated white Europeans FFSâ using âshit grammarâ just scum of the earth?
Would seem that they just donât qualify to be people.
Living in BC after thirty years in Alberta is really an experience.
The laws here are mostly for decorative purposes, nothing to be concerned about, though there is one exception, donât tell the police they donât apply the law, you may get busted, just for saying that.
The lawlessness could be on par with Mexico.
Will let you know if I get busted for the post.
Why should food packaging be any different than university professors?
Giving everyone different standards is what equality is all about.
The important thing it to pass the CHRC audit.
This isn’t about shitty grammar it’s about putting ALL the ingredients of a food product on the package, in one or both of the official languages. That requirement should apply equally to EVERYONE! “Immigrant” (sic) entrepreneurs should not get a pass because they’re immigrants, or because it’s “too hard”. Don’t like it? There’s the airport! Get out!
Same principle goes for children born in Canada to immigrant parents who reach public school aga and can’t speak an official language. The parents should be back charged for the additional ESL classes that their kid requires.
What do expect in a pretend country with pretend laws?
Canada stopped being a real country in about 1968.
No one respects Canada anymore and I am ashamed of it. I was born here. I would leave, but there is nowhere much better to go anymore. I am too old anyway, which, when I look at this world today, I am actually glad about.
http://www.engrish.com
Our snacks are made from natural proofs which occur in proofs proofusally. Makes about as much sense. And John V. I agree. Laws(or whatever you wanna call em nowadays) in Canuckistan only apply,and loosely, to us bigoted,racist whities.My Q to the Politic would be,are you going to the authorities with this problem? Oh wait. He/she is in BC. There are no authorities.
I really don’t mind the horrors to our english, in fact I’ve read worse here from “new” or ect.. or whoever you’ve proclaimed yourself this week. (Note, is he banned?)
If he was on welfare and threatening our freedoms with his “pretend it’s a religion”, then I’d feel different. I may even pile on.
… but perhaps his greatest misstep is that he’s attended a B.C. publicly funded school?
heck the last time “we” elected 3 liberal majorities in a row… oh never mind him.
Silly people, coming to Canada doesn’t make you Canadian. It just allows you to use a hyphen, as in Lebanese-Canadian, Afro-Canadian, Haitian-Canadian or even Jamaica-Torontonian. Being Canadian is now only a convenience, much like registering your steamships in Panama or Liberia.
When I read the link, I heard Abu from the Simpsons in my head.
When i saw the “naturally from nature, naturally” line I was getting ready for the no pesticide/organic blah blah blah.
Alot of the organic labelling out there, while maybe more gramatically correct, likes to beat that word “natural” to death in non-sensical ways as well.
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I’m assuming that “art equipment” probably is missing a few essential linguistic ingredients such as “state of the…art equipment.” After all, the package notes are trying to assure customers that everything possible has been done to ensure that their snack is naturally fresh and properly packaged…
I avoid any and all foods with even a whiff of having been processed or packaged somewhere other than in North America. Fortunately, the language on the packaging is usually a dead giveaway.
“Produce of Canada” apparently means only that the product in the package has been either packaged or distributed in Canada.
FAWGETTABOUTIT. Give me potato chips any day. At least I know what I’m eating, and although they might kill me eventually, it’ll probably take a few years. Who knows with the mysterious snacks from China, India, and elsewhere?
Sorry for the Internal Server Error message. I had appended it to my comment above, as it wouldn’t post and that was the message I got half an hour ago… In my haste, I neglected to erase it… đ
when is the best season for pickled otters noses?
rams bladder?
If correct spelling and proper grammar are the benchmarks of a true Canadian, 90% of SDA readers should be deported.
ALBATROSS!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_u7VGiMO0U
You know, my Dad used to refer to Canadians as “commie canucks” back in the ’60s so leaning left has been an imperative north of the 49th for some time. Canadians are thus at the fore of societal trends in line with the U. S. coasts and thus always alarming to contemplate. After leaving one of the coasts some years back, I feel safe in this flyover region. Like JV above, I’ll be damn near dead before bhurka’s become legislated here.
Freekinn dorks trying to prove they know something by prattling about spelling on a blog…..
So the question that comes to mind is what beverage to enjoy with the Guru Snack…..
I don’t really care about the language issue. Outside La Belle, there are no language police and there shouldn’t be in Quebec for that matter.
What gets my goat is that some people are not required to follow the law while other people are.
What’s the point of laws if you only certain groups have to follow them?
And if you think this is too minor to bother with, Khadr proves our dusty Treason laws aren’t any better.
jeff davidson: “If correct spelling and proper grammar are the benchmarks of a true Canadian, 90% of SDA readers should be deported.”
Yeah, but Jeff, ‘minor difference: We’re not SELLING our stuff. It’s free!
This post isn’t about language or spelling, guys.
It’s about the double standard applied to packaging: If it’s a product from India, China, wherever (and we know they’re from outside of Canada because of the preposterous language they use), they don’t seem to have to pony up to Canadian standards which require, by law, that Canadian-MADE products list the ingredients on their packaging.
Aside from the fact that they use “natural” and “naturally” a ridiculous number of times, rendering them meaningless, they don’t leave the customer any the wiser when it comes to what’s actually in their product.
And, jeff, you’ve used a syllogism in your response above. No one’s questioning “Canadian” bona fides here. We’re questioning–or should be!–the double standard applied to Canadian-made goods and those simply packaged here. There’s a difference. Figure it out.
All your snack are belong to us.
What is interesting to me is that Shane Edwards bought the product anyway. He knew, somehow, that it was composed of peas, peanuts, salt, and chili powder – and he apparently has not died from it.
If they are breaking the law then just contact them and give them your opinion and help them improve.
I am impressed that they are starting a business – in another language – and have been able to make Shane Edwards a customer.
On English. The beauty of the English language is that it is so adaptable, expandable, and inclusive. It is not the queen’s english anymore. Every culture brings something to the language and actually improves it. So when some prude corrects you for saying ‘me and Joe’ instead of ‘Joe and I’, shove a hockey stick blade up there backsides and take a good wrist shot – because maybe in another language, ‘me and Joe’ is the natural way.
OMMAG: Chai. Or Raj beer.
You may have to hold your nose at the envirowacko concept of the “100 mile diet”, but at least it would protect you from scams like this. Of course a diet of ever-softening turnips, carrots, and spuds for seven months a year might be a little problematic too.
Wow I love the double standard among certain people on the right. On the one hand railing against such things as government meddling (mandatory bilingual labelling, packaging regulation, etc.), then screaming bloody murder the moment some “smelly immigrant” is caught in the slightest violation. Do you people really have nothing better to get riled up about? I have seen shit grammar from third-generation, Canadian university educated white Europeans FFS. It seems to be a sign of how dumbed down our society has become. Go do something productive or creative rather than nitpicking and maybe that trend will change.
ccon @ 11:44:
“…shove a hockey stick blade up there backsides…”
“up their backsides” would make more sense, as its not engrish.
Agitator, Jeff and like-minded ilk…
There exist a certain group of people, well represented on the right of the political spectrum but apparently non-existent on the left, who take objection to the presumption that laws (regardless of their obtrusiveness) apply only when convenient, or apply only to select classes of individuals, and that, particularly, the transgressions of non-white immigrant and so-called native Canadian individuals may blithely be waved away as of no consequence.
*No spelling errors were committed in this post.
**No logical errors, either.
***Grammar’s OK, too.
I’ll take their amusing pigeon English over government mandated French labelling , which is a daily reminder of the Trudeaupian legacy.
“smelly immigrant” declares the racist, Agitator.
Agitator
You’re not very bright, are you?
Do you not see the obvious difference between the idea that a law should be on the books and the idea that if the law IS on the books that it should apply to all, equally?
Obviously not. This is one reason you suffer the incurable disease of leftardism like Jeff and others too stupid to reason with (and you lot aren’t even interested in trying.)
Getting back to the topic, folks?
The “natural” implication on the packaging refers to the fact that, call me a liar, natural unprocessed products DON’T require a nutritional label; only processed foods. If you stop and think about that for a sec you’ll realize the logic.
That wouldn’t prevent a distributor from including nutritional info if he/she felt so inclined.
“This banana is really good for you!” đ
Oh yeh! And health warnings!!
“WARNING:This bag of peanuts may contain peanuts”
Alternative hypothesis, seeing as how BC is right into socialism in such a big way, maybe Mr. Proprietor of Guru Lucky has friends in high places? Or low places, depending on how you feel about it.
Of course it is also entirely possible the BC provincial food nannies just haven’t done their friggin’ job for twenty years and this guy has entirely escaped their notice. I could believe that one too.
Either way, maybe BC could consider outsourcing their food-cop business to a private concern who will actually DO THE JOB, and fire the hell out of a bunch of CUPE seat polishers who don’t.
Well jeffy, you’re still around, thought maybe you’d been deported somewhere beyond reason.
There’s quite a long list of “natural ingredients which occurs in nature naturally”, many not fit for human consumption. It’s buyer beware.
I wonder if the label was also in French. Although I haven’t seen this particular package, I’ve noticed that imported Asian foods often lack any French translation, particularly in Vancouver stores that are targeted to Asian customers.
Jewish Canadians have had problems getting imported traditional foods because of bilingualism laws, which are applied strictly to Manischewitz’s gefilte fish and similar products. Manischewitz claims it’s not economical to print separate labels for the Canadian market.
Why are the bilingualism laws applied more strictly to Jewish foods than to Asian foods?
Ulm, wouldnt it be up to the buyer, a member of the well known Pattison group, to ensure that the goods sold in their fine establishment meet all known guidelines?
So yes this local company has an obligation to put nutritional info on the packaging but the buyer at Pattison would have reviewed the product before it was placed in store….or should have.
Perhaps the Pattison food store isnt well run…certainly not being well regulated, unless there is a loophole they know of.
Perhaps this should be addressed with the store, you would be doing them a favour since they are more likely to be charged, being a well known entity.
Marc M; assuming that wasn’t a rhetorical question(?)…
Montreal has a large Jewish population, as does Toronto. I’d assume that any Kosher food importer would target his distribution to mainly those two, and Winnipeg. The Language Cops in Quebec would make the distributors life a living hell.
Yeh, that and politicians countrywide are desperate for the ethnic vote.
I’m continually amazed at how the Chinese community in Richmond B.C. get away with actively discouraging waspish shoppers in a couple of malls.
Charles M ….. Good one!
Frankly I’m scared of Asian beer.
Maybe one day I will get over that but my first ventures into the supposed “quality” brews have yielded NO compelling argument for them.
Of course if I actually needed something to wash down some chili peppered peanuts …..
The hot chili powder on the peanuts would be lethal to the unfriendly microbes, (which occur in nature naturally), so they become a safe,self cleaning treat.
Personally, I prefer completely unnatural food, you know, minus the salmonella and the e. coli — hasn’t hurt me so far. I’m particularly big on food that’s been irradiated, especially in the infrared spectrum like meat and lasagne — tastes better when it’s hot. And as for processing — pasteurize away. I can take it — yum!
I was thinking it might be a good idea for Asian or Indian food–or any food without ingredient labels–to list ingredients because of just two examples (among many more):
– soy sauce made in China was found to have been made from human hair; I’d like to know that if I was thinking of stocking it on my kitchen shelves;
and
– dog and cat food made in China was found with melamine in it (so the sellers could charge more, as it is sold by weight) and thousands of North American family pets died; I’d like to know if the food I was feeding my dog had melamine in it, because if I knew that it did, I wouldn’t buy it.
This isn’t a food-by-race thing; it’s all about consumer protection and produce companies not being able to slip under the wire just because their products are made elsewhere.
“This isn’t a food-by-race thing; it’s all about consumer protection and produce companies not being able to slip under the wire just because their products are made elsewhere.
Posted by: batb at July 23, 2008 8:31 PM ”
Amen batb. But we must also remember that what a lot of immigrants eat as “normal” products to them,would seriously harm most of us over-sanitized Westerns. Our immune systems can’t handle even normal western crap anymore. Did you know that in Cairo,asking for a steak(of whatever) not covered in flies to be cooked more then blue rare is considered a crime almost worse then spitting on the pedophile prophet?
But again,when it comes to labelling,if it ain’t from your garden,then buyer beware!
Oh,and Lizj….you mean these chili peanuts could give Ex-lax a run for its maoney?
Arenât the âthird-generation, Canadian university educated white Europeans FFSâ using âshit grammarâ just scum of the earth?
Would seem that they just donât qualify to be people.
Living in BC after thirty years in Alberta is really an experience.
The laws here are mostly for decorative purposes, nothing to be concerned about, though there is one exception, donât tell the police they donât apply the law, you may get busted, just for saying that.
The lawlessness could be on par with Mexico.
Will let you know if I get busted for the post.
Why should food packaging be any different than university professors?
Giving everyone different standards is what equality is all about.
The important thing it to pass the CHRC audit.
This isn’t about shitty grammar it’s about putting ALL the ingredients of a food product on the package, in one or both of the official languages. That requirement should apply equally to EVERYONE! “Immigrant” (sic) entrepreneurs should not get a pass because they’re immigrants, or because it’s “too hard”. Don’t like it? There’s the airport! Get out!
Same principle goes for children born in Canada to immigrant parents who reach public school aga and can’t speak an official language. The parents should be back charged for the additional ESL classes that their kid requires.