Where the foxes caper unmolested, the government packs your school lunch and another silly little blowup between Muslims and Islamophobes;
POLICE sniffer dogs trained to spot terrorists at railway stations may no longer come into contact with Muslim passengers – after complaints that it is against the suspects’ religion.
A report for the Transport Department has raised the prospect that the animals should only touch passengers’ luggage because it is considered “more acceptable”.
In the Muslim faith, dogs are deemed to be spiritually “unclean”. But banning them from touching passengers would severely restrict their ability to do their job.
The report follows trials of station security measures in the wake of the 2005 London suicide bomb attacks. In one trial, some female Muslims said the use of a body scanner was also unacceptable because it was tantamount to being forced to strip.
British Transport Police last night insisted it would still use sniffer dogs – which are trained to detect explosives – with any passengers regardless of faith, but handlers would remain aware of “cultural sensitivities”.
Gee, is there another terrorist group on this planet that can use ‘religion’ and ‘cultural sensitivities’ to evade detection as such?
Obviously, if you intend to carry out any criminal activities, whether it be Islamic fascist or just robbing the local bank, the best strategy is to dress as a Muslim. That way, you can’t be detected. Or arrested. Or confined. Or tried.
Neat.
Perhaps I skipped over that part of the Koran as condemns dogs as unclean, being more attentive to like those parts which teach murder, rape, genocide, perpetual war and the other like horrors presented by Mohammed. Since the copy of the Koran I had was cheap, printed on absorbent paper, I have long since used its pages for meeting my physical needs and now wonder where it contained the anti-dog verses.
Furthermore, ET, nobody is allowed to draw any public attention to the process, lest it be identified as “hate speech”.
I hear pigs have good sniffers too. Perhaps the dogs should be replaced?
Maybe they should bar passengers from using public transit if they don’t want to be sniffed. It’s like an airport, don’t pass security, can’t fly.
This is really not much different than whether your picture gets taken for your license without the veil or hijab on.
At some point the state has to say people ar epeople and treat them the same. It is discramantory if I have to have a dog sniff me but someone else gets a free pass. Either find another method or if not practical the other people have to put up with it….
And isnt there a rigths complaint by PETA saying that this is discriminating against dogs. What if I said I didnt want the guy in the turban waiving a wand at me at airport security, I think he is league with the devil….I would be locked up in a mental institution…..superstitious beliefs should not be allowed to override the objective and rational.
Could someone pleeze explain to me what Fido did to get this bad rep? In the agricultural society of the time dogs were extremely useful both for personal defense and guarding livestock. Why the anger? Did some mutt bite the mo man on the ass when he was a kid?
P.S. when some muslin kid goes lost or missing I presume his devout parents will refuse the use of a tracker dog…
Gee, this is just like the “solar power meets endangered species act” thing in the other thread.
In honour of the recently hitched Five Feet of Shaidle, “Can’t they both lose?”
Any culture that hates dogs is mentally defective and doesn’t deserve any friends at all.
The way things are going in regards to Britain’s bending over for these belligerent wogs, leaves little doubt that they are winning.
Shame on us.
We will deserve our fate.
Maybe instead of sniffing, the dog could lift it’s hind leg on any suspected bomber… Just sayin’ eh.
Andrew, I like the way you think. Cops with giant attack boars! We could call them Pig Units.
Oh, wait…
Free Thinker hits the right note. Well said.
Dogs, Mans Best Friend, except Muslims.
I don’t understand it, it is not like they don’t like animals. Who else has beauty pageants for camels?
All too convenient that every form of explosive detection is against their religion.
Would pit bulls be our Muslim equivalent? Not all are bad and both seem to wag their tails in a friendly manner but you always keep one eye on the damn pit bull.
We as a society are looking in the rear view mirror to see where we have been instead of where we are going. Eventually we will run into something we didn’t see because we weren’t looking.
When I look at the people that allow this to happen to our society this always comes to mind, Tolerance is the virtue of men with no conviction, Gilbert Chesterton and Civilizations die from suicide not murder, Arnold Toyunbee.
I have a feeling that the dog’s handlers will be very sensitive to their religious ‘sensibilities’.Hopefully by making sure they all get fido’s snout sniffing at them even moreso now.
How about Pit Pigs? Damn useful when needed.
This should be simple.
Flying, driving and other luxuries we have in the 21st century are not rights, they are privileges. That is what I was always told, “driving is a privilege not a right”; therefore, if you can not comply with the industry regulations you haven’t had your rights damaged.
I would like to suggest that anyone who doesn’t comply with this type of regulations shouldn’t be allowed to fly. That would make us all safer.
It is a known fact that dogs can identify twisted people that might otherwise appear normal or are at least accepted in society. Old Mo made them unclean when they bit his a$$ for being the slimy creature that he was.
I would like someone to point to the surra in the koran that states dogs are unclean? There is nowhere in teh koran that states a woman mustr wear a headscarf, or burkha. These are not religious issues, but social ones. The religious argument does not apply.
But the fact that muslims complain about dog sniffers is a reason for using them. The dog will sniff out a muslim, as well as explosives; and do not try the “It’s not only muslims that explode” argument, it is disingenuous at best.
I don’t like dogs very much. I don’t like cops all that much either. But they both have a job to do, and in their roles as professional peace officers I certainly wouldn’t interfere with them. The truth is they don’t need us to like them.
Since all this bickering grew to such overwhelming proportions, I’ve decided I don’t like muslims very much either. I know a few individuals that I like OK, but as a group they’ve alienated themselves from Canadian society. It was them, not me, who caused these feelings.
Maybe a lot of moderate muslims will tell me I’m judging them by the actions of a few radicals. If that’s true why haven’t all you moderates come forward to denounce the actions of these radicals. Your silence only reinforces my feelings.
They are so retarded death, can only come to soon to put them out of misery. How a Nation can become complete imbeciles by Multiculturalism. I wonder what there excuse will be if another train explodes from the “Religion Of Peace”? Talk about a real disconnection from the rails of realism…
Europe is a dead civilization , only its nails & hair continue to grow, with a few cells, until complete decomposition sets in.
how about you do some scientific research about dog espcially water come from mouth of dogs is not clean in Islam laws
you can touch the dog it is better not do so
if muslim touch the dog they must clean their hand or any part touch the dogs
wash cloth if hand touch the dog they must wash it 7 times rinse it and made suer it is clean.
this 7 times only warning that how much microb carry by dogs body and mouth water
pig in comparison you can touch the live pigs but you can not eat the meats of pig animals for eating is haram
haram is opposit to halal
halal is law ful
Is Muslim has dog yes they do have dog
but keep them outside home
they used them in farm for help the ships taking care of
for security check if necessay dog to touch your staff need to wash after in case of emergency
rather than dog they can use
1) scanner
2) body surity in place in each air port for men and woamn are seperate boot they checm body made sure not carry any weaspon in Muslim restirced country
there is not problmes to love the dog
but tehe obess nonMuslim cary dog in their bed and kiss them this is discusing for Muslim practiced
Islam is the best relgion if you like to keep health while some people who love dogs may get disappointment
but is unfortunaly is law and very restricted dog
if dog touch Muslim body they can not pray god
in Islam pray god 5 times there is one condtion is exist
your body and your cloth must be clean if not clean you can not pray or you must do replace pray in next day or tyamom or otehr way
therefore people think Msulim are dirty hand is wrong if Muslim hand is dirty can not pray if they pray with dirty hand their pray is not accepted by god
there is so many differnece bettwen Muslim law and nonMuslim law
there is so many culture accpte of word betwen muslim nd nonMuslim
some lanugage really when I hear in blogs made me wonder that si reason muslim are not decided not to talk to nonMulsim
I think it is better communication get open and they know
look at number dog kill or bit the young children
in some earth quick muslim use dog to find survival as well
you should understand if you do study desiese and health if Islam said not eat pork and so many other animal
animal with sharp blood is not eat by Muslim
means animal if you kill htem they have suddent blood come out like tiger is not eat by muslim
animal with no sharp drop out of blood like lamb is eat by Muslim
Islam purpoisly limited number of animal to eat by human
this is good for love of animal
in general if we say Muslim not like dog to tourch them it is not mean Muslim hate dogs
Muslim like animal again kindess to animal is part of Islam
so many Muslim boys in west are not really care about this matter
but pratice Muslim do care
do not remember as Muslim life styel is strange for your eyes
Muslim watch nonMuslim sleep with dog is look at non Muslim with strange eyse and discuss them
plus if you have dog please diper your dogs bots
I hate seeing any wher doge pooss and stand and pisss and this is so bad
when I try to seat in floor in park Muslim scre 99% doge may pisss or etc
why dog lover not diaper their dogs and not hole plactic to carry their possss this is so discusting to Muslimsss
why not nonMuslim marry and have a child instead to have dogs to takeing care
dog expense it more than you feed teh kids in poor countreis
most lonly people in west has dogs and prefer not marry and have a child even adopt the child from africe is better to put so much expense for dogs who only live few years and their life of dogs is short and people get hurt when tehy are dieing and loose their dogs
may be otehr reason dog is so good freind and but short time freind and link to short time freind so deeplya s we see west have may hurt htem more than they enjoy keep them and put so much money to hteir dogs again we saw you nonMuslim differne eyes.
God knows the best
touch blood, eat pork and so many other animal and water of dogs and touch washroom stay in body is not clean in Islam law body must stay clean from any thinkg may cause microbes
Well if their fellow Muslims, the fanatical ones, would stop killing innocent Brits England wouldn’t need sniffer dogs.
Perhaps they could switch to raccoons sniffing for bombs, I have one I’ll donate for free.
Whatever animal husbandry rules are followed by others is their business. Injecting the Supernatural into how to handle animals is ridiculous to begin with but to impose those rules on another society is even dumber.
Funny when you hear that dogs can actually be used for work in those societies when it is claimed there is an absolute prohibition, apparently not. The dogs have a job that they are very good at, sniffing out expolsives and drugs….and they dont care what religon anyone is, being one of “God’s creatures” this is hardly surprising.
People are people and if some people are carrying or have been handling explosives without license and bad intent then whatever is the best method to determine that is fine, damn the supernatural or cultural sensitivities. My cultural sensitivities are offended by the loss of life driven by crazies acting in the name of religon….so accomodate me first!
It is possible to scent-train horses, and nobody I know of has any religious objection to equines. They can also be housebroken too! Get some capable miniature horses or ponies, housebreak’em, train them on scent and there should be no further grounds for objection. (OK, they’ll find some p*ssant reason, but now they can’t say that their cultural objections weren’t taken into account)
Wow… what a bunch of cynophobics!
All this talk of microbes and germs from someone in the muslim world is almost comical. I defy moss to come up with a single scientific advancement from the muslim world that’s helped keep their children free from disease.
I’m waiting.
Okay, lets check out some old testament medical advancements. Pork is not a very safe food to eat. Never was, never will be. In fact, most of the rules they came up with were right on the money.
Then the western world invented(discovered)electricity. Funny how the world opened up after that. Of course all that work taming the new world required a lot of innovative thinking. If we’d stuck to the muslim mindset, we’d still be living in tents with our goats.
By the way, dog saliva contains some serious antibacterial agents. If I had a wound, and couldn’t get medical attention, I’d let a dog lick it. Then again my ancestors were real pioneers, not latecoming ne’erdowells. You folks are only here because all the hard work is done already.
small horse is better but again diper them and carry them
tiny horse is better than dog and not break and put too much water drop on floor
for finding some thing
may otehr animal can be used or get trained too
some people think they can not train rabit while rabit can train too
find some birds to do this job too
I do not know I am not animal zoo professional
there is so many option god is created
not even need to be even worry about this
plus dog can be biting small kids is statistic showed this number increase and some dogs need to carry mouth band when go to train
again option is exist
you can not make the fun of all laws iN Islam
before doing any research whetehr or not this health issue Muslim saying is proper is not
scientis showes microb in legs of pigs
and so many heavy wight people in West is because of eating pork
if you saying what Muslim saying is
even halal food or even some peopel think kosherfood is healthier than regulr food they are eating
but halal food sell in nonmulsim supermarkt in Canada all are fraud too
still you can not always see negative in Muslim
muslim has law and nonMuslim has law or not
if you want Muslim respect your law then you can not stop them to not followe Islam law if not huting your law and has option availbe to replace it
Any doubt, folks, that the Islamofascists have it right, all you have to do is challenge the soft underbelly of lefty rot where you can find it, nibble by nibble, and you win. It’s so damn easy.
I’ve long ago quit feeling sorry for the Brits, it’s a mess of their own creation. Those of us that share DNA with those folks, I do, might as well invent a new identity to spare the kids. When and if Gordon Brown/Nu Labour gets the boot by a BIG majority, 48/52% won’t do it for me, until then I’ve got nothing good to say about them.
What isn’t offensive to the 7th century Religion of Perpetual Rage and Offense? And, it’s all so transparently selective with them. But, then, their Western lefty counterpart shares the same mental century and hyperactive central nervous system.
Speaking of dogs, moss, our resident most likely non-Muslim CHRC employee troll sniffed out this thread which brings me back to my comment above.
Man, stroking my dog, while drinking my beer, while eating my pork ribs……
HAPPY DOMINION DAY!
Revnant Dream: ” … Europe is a dead civilization , only its nails & hair continue to grow, with a few cells, until complete decomposition sets in.”
Another myth. Hair and nails don’t continue to grow … it’s the shrinking of the surrounding tissue that gives that impression.
ural :
I know, but i liked the visuals. Much better than gut bacteria
nothing like coming across a carcass of a dead camel or the remains of a butchered sheep lying on a paved road in the middle east to impress you that they arent really all that concerned with hygiene. or one of the locals squatting and taking a dump in public. — and of course using their left hand after.
flies on everything. oh yum.
Revnant Dream:
I like the visual of false “growth” better.
get idea such as dress your dogs dress as we see in dog shows
wear them diapers not carry thier possss so discusing even chnage children diaper is no pleasent for all adult
and wear the moth band not able to get direct touch to Muslim
then it is ok
when dog not able to put their body and mouth to Muslim that is fine
if you have dogs teach them do not touch the Muslim in buss or train or in park
in any way
no touch then the problmes is get resolved
please put diaper and find it in drug stores
for kids and ask dogs food to made you
coulty brown, black and coluryt diaper to not show white infant diapoer with color of your skin of your dogs and wear diaper he problmes will resolve
do you know how many park get get infacted by dogs piss
imagain all children of human being walk in park with no diaper you can imagine what partk look like and if all moms carry plasti to tak pooss of their children of human from floor
the all desises is life style in west is wrong
fix your dog nice dress and fix park no posss
and made cemetry for your dogs
having dogs and few years after they are dieing are hurign children who love their dogs thsi is bad culture you hurt your kids love dog like freind in so much can be so little
kingstonlad,
Ditto – except beef ribs. Tossed around the ol’ pigskin though.
Have a good one.
I bet more people are harmed by bombers that got through security checks, than are harmed by dog bites.
Cultural ‘sensitivities’ be damned!
I have been in the middle east and Africa, and let me tell our resident CRHC poster that the people who live there have some of the worst hygenic practises known to mankind.
People who defecate in the middle of a crowded street or sleep and eat in a goat pen hardly have the right to criticize and preach about what is clean or not.
I will listen to what you have to say after you can prove to me that the west is not the cleanest place that you will ever have the opportunity to visit.
Beer, wine , BBQ pork tonight on the back deck.32 in the shade.
similar tomorrow after picking up number one son coming off shift from Ft. McMoney.
Lobster, wine on Free the West day. july 1 done in the turkey deep fryer. lots of grin house gizzes off that puppy.
Steak and Eggs like the astronauts on Yank independance day , my b’day. up at the cabin. no drinks till noon, maybe a caesar or two.
and a whole lot of wobbly pops and barley sandwiches next week at the rodeo and chucks.
no wonder Im starting to look unidimensional.
proud of my redneck.
Our religion considers dog to be spiritually impure.
ORLY? God, willing, it’s a goat. Actually, I’ve found all my dogs to be spiritually neutral, but if I had to make a guess, I’d say agnostic.
Dogs out. Pigs out. I’d like to introduce you to our new bomb and drug sniffing elephant. Mind the luggage there, Jumbo, that’s a Henk carryon.
Talk about a death wish!
The Brits have turned into pathetic little worms now. What a disgrace for a once mighty nation…
cal2,
Boiling lobster is so pre-Kyoto … kill them first and BBQ them. Give the water to a neighbour that doesn’t have enough. Saving the world one dinner at a time.
Too-da-loo … I’m off to invent a wind powered propane BBQ (and smokeless smoker)!!!
From the article – best oxymoron ever:
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Massoud Shadjareh, chairman of the Islamic Human Rights Commission, said even dogs touching baggage would be an issue for a Muslim preparing to pray.
cal2 @8.01pm
can I ask how many kilo you weigh? you don’t need to tell us ,let me guess probably more than 400 pound with amount of foods you are eating per day you must be made all neighbour supermarket so far get rich bynow
advertise made you all fools
Fido dog lover now all purchase dog with their cell phone
sport watcher must love beer as advertise media plan and teach you that
McCainnn and Luflurrs porky biggst factory foods ads in Canada made you love ham with eggs
pork lover mostly are german and Irish or at least what I saw in Canada
romantic Italian made you love wins or Kosher win
Mexican movie love tocobells and tokila if you like to visit mexico
this adverstise group can made you what they wish for
you can gain weight them go to nutritional food to losoe it all
such the great food Canadain are eat and nice dog are carry in new fido ads dogs with nice hate so nice looking every body
or how about small pupy price hilton or Britney sprit girly have all teenagers now carry small popy in thier bags
just wake up and grown up
food and eating is good
but what to eat and healthy is not what people teach in ads to belive it is right
rich people in Canada made you waht you are today belive is happy day is
have a nice Canada day next week
let me think what we must proud of
Oh Canada teach us how to clean dogs ..s in park
if you forget Muslim laws you are doing what they brainwash you to do
once I was with one French Canadian guy out and he told can I drink win you don’t mind because since two days ago i did not drink win
I feel pity for this guy for me he looks alcohlist might be that if not drink win within a two days he could not resist it
I told him it is better he never travel to middle east retricted area with his habit
solution for terrorist attack of dog watcher I think if you stop war and killing mslim you reduce less security in every where
every action may get reaction
stop intefer in Islam law and war automaticlay all attack will get reduce
stop drug and ask your police to get big guyes they have all satilite to find wehre is terrourst are how come USA still not found who is behind all druges of wolrd if they are not behind that all druge
for USA army tak a two dys in check all druge in world and tak take big guys
all we see in tv is film if htey want they will get it
may they do not like to get druge sonly take small gury to show they still working
I do not bleive story of drugs and police why in Cnada can not get all drug dealers within few days if USA police worke with south america to gether but all is film for have dogs has job
Hey I know another law…..I am not Jewish but maybe we could follow that “Law” how bout it….that should be acceptable.
Personally I prefer law that has nothing to do with Supernatural Beings.
Endless, incoherent babbling, but not one word of explanation about why anyone would live in a culture that obviously makes them so uncomfortable and angry. Did we drag these people here against their will?
Or, how about a word of gratitude about sharing the peace and prosperity created by that culture? Yeah, I know, I’m dreaming.
Well,
Like one of the Abrahamic faiths it is a prosletizing one with a missionary sense, and like the other its core has LAW that can be used to regulate most aspects of behaviour.
If it acted like either of its two cousins it would be fine, 1) Be prostelizing but you render under ceaser what is ceasers and god what is gods, ie the societal law is a seperate item
2) You choose to regulate but it is only for the community and not applicable to those not in the community
Sadly it adopts the worst of both worlds, seeks to convert but brings along with it a sense of coercion for following the rules.
Funny thing is any country that has been under strict Islamic Law generates HUGE celebrations when it no longer is……and any that still are generate lots of desire to not live under it anymore.
No accomodation to Islam is required…..we learned along time ago that God was a personal matter and when that topic gets involved in the Law of the Land then blood inevitably flows.
morgan Swift 9:19 pm
Life is not too difficult as sound like it for Muslim live in Canada
if you study dinosour life and death of dinosour is not able to adopt to new environement
Muslim able to adopt their life styele with nonMuslim
if you have dogs in your home and you like to invite your muslim freind it depend how strict Muslim the person is
if in middle put your dog in one room and close the door or an hour or basement and invite them in other room
if Mulsim is very resctricted invite them in outside lunch or restruant or meeting room who have veggi and fish or ask what resturant they p refer to go or what coffee place they like to go with no alchol to serve there
Muslim live and keep their identity in theri home
htey go their own mosque they have their own freinds they have their own newspaper wrie own lanugague
in place of work they are most people are working not talk about their belife with coworkers
when they go outside they go mostly with their muslim freinds who know their culure
Muslim go to place I recomanded Prime Minster Harper made place Muslim can invited and see them with no win such as Mark Styen bring up
Muslim like party and going to freind hours and outdoors and shows
if Muslim going to unversity they are going to study
therefore their difference is matter theyadopt themselve to what nonMuslim think and
Muslim know they know nonMuslim more than nonMuslim know Islam
it is only matter of adop to environment and society sometimes is difficule or so many misunderstanding but in general it si not too bad
Muslim learn not able to eat food any where they can go eat like back home they are restricted instead bring food from hom or shop from local food forMuslim
facilty if growing more in Canada for ease Mulsim live here
whether Muslim law and culture acceptable to nonMuslim in past few years brought some slander and may sound discrimination did in soem place cause some problems
Muslim in Canda are smart people whiel in middle ease some area is not clean but some area is very nicer than here as modle of house
owned by rich people
you need god to help your soul to rest and most peopel coem to Canada because of viloenace in middle east nothing else since they saw so much back home not like to argue with nonMuslim they notice their diffenrce of them while they are diffenrt than nonMuslim some even hide they are Muslim tonot get bother by non Muslim in place of work which I am not agree with them
“there is not problmes to love the dog
but tehe obess nonMuslim cary dog in their bed and kiss them this is discusing for Muslim practiced”
This is discusing for any normal type human practiced of any faith. (PeTa zoophile booger eating morons excepted.)