For this.
Correction: The cartoon shown is from the Halifax Chronicle Herald, who are also being dragged before a HRC for publishing it. No jail time, though.
Yet.
For this.
Correction: The cartoon shown is from the Halifax Chronicle Herald, who are also being dragged before a HRC for publishing it. No jail time, though.
Yet.
He should have just called for the death and beheading of people he didn’t like — seems that’s not a crime in Holland.
Does this guy also need money for legal defense? If so, where do we send it?
Well, that’s why we have to fight the public education and political battle now.
Once we reach the point the Dutch have reached, it’s too late.
Editorial cartoonists “being held overnight.”
I wonder if we could just back up forty years or so and try again.
And I thought we liberated Holland.
I’m starting to think that it’s reached the point where violence is needed to shove a stake in the heart of leftist Political Correctness and leftist speech suppression.
Secretly, a team of elite editorial cartoonists is assembling to stage a mission to break Nekschot out of prison… “The Fighting Funnymen!”
“it’s reached the point where violence is needed to shove a stake in the heart of leftist Political Correctness”
Actually, it’s past time. Europe is like a rag soaked in gasoline; before long it will spontaneously combust if no spark is forthcoming.
I doubt you’ll be censored. Unlike paternalistic lefty nutbags, we’re comfortable with free speech, even when it’s speech we don’t like.
Among other things, freedom of expression leaves the nut-cases like you are out in the open where they can be debated and/or ostracized as the situation fits. Well, out in the open when brave enough to use a real name.
Coward.
The lefties favorite argument is “look what the Nazis did…”, when in fact they are acting like Nazis themselves.
mrto, of course it’s your right to offend or not, it is your choice. I’m reminded of a childhood taunt that sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.
MRTO: you probably didn’t read the comments policy, specifically this: 2. Cut the profanity – there are people reading who are on work computers.
It wasn’t your opinion that got you gone.
You might want to brush up on “property rights” before you comment again.
Was this in a Canadian newspaper? It sounds an awful lot like what is going in T.O.
Doesn’t that cartoon belong with this Canadian story?
The Story from Brussels
SoCon Or Bust asks;”If they think the price is steep now, what’s it going to cost us when we have to fight to keep Sharia out later on?”
Break it to SoCon gently. Islam’s sharia is here in Canada now. In addition, the Canadian version of Islam’s sharia is the Canadian Human Rights Act, thanks to the socialists: PET, Big Bertha Wilson, Tommy Shoyama latterly of Saskatchewan, et al. The compact between Islam and the left has been made. The end result is now apparent; the loss of our freedom of speech.
The enforcement arms of Islam’s sharia/CHRAct are the HRCs/tribunals; the commissars are Lucy, Hall, Worn, et al.
The price is being paid now. It will take a prodigious effort to cast off the chains which have been forged by the left-Islamic alliance.
I just hope this time we don’t go to defend the Euroweenies. They made their bed,they can darn well sleep in it,or do the laundry. Up to them.We have enough of a fight with our own leftards here in Canuckistan.
Hey guys:
This is the cartoon from the Halifax Chronicle-Herald which elicited a complaint with the Nova Scotia HRC.
I thought this was Bruce MacKinnon’s cartoon, too. (I knew his mom a long time ago!)
Whatever, whoever…
This harrassment of cartoonists and political commentators in the so-called “free world” has got to STOP. We’re lay-down surrender monkeys if we don’t stand up to this bullying from Islamofascists IN OUR OWN COUNTRIES.
Of course, what gives people the courage to stand up to this kind of evil–my use of this word is considered–is moral backbone, which we in the West seem to have forfeited in the last 60 years. It’s as though we won WWII and said, “Job well done. Now we’ll just coast.”
Civilization and its citizens need to be constantly vigilant against the threat of totalitarians in their midst. They have to be able to discern the enemy, wherever, whenever, and in whatever form, the enemy presents itself.
It seems we’ve lost the ability to do this. The hoax of “multiculturalism” has dulled our senses and has lulled us into the scandalous and fraudulent moral/cultural equivalency schtick, for which both Canada and Holland are famous.
We’d better get a grip or we’re a civilization that’s going the way of the Greeks and the Romans. There’s nothing inevitable about our Western Civilization remaining intact. There’s a cost to being civilized, and courage in guarding and fighting for our freedoms is not opitional.
Holland is lost. Canada is well on the way unless we scrap the Multicultural policies which are fortified by the Charter of Rights which also needs to be revisited.
Trudeau spouted about a JUST society but his policies have given us anything but resulting in a system where some are more equal than others.
The boot of fascism has been firmly planted on the throat of Gregorius Nekschot. It astonishes me what intellectual gymnastics people go through to justify the decimation of our freedom. Is this the fate of the western world – to sink into the smothering muck of socialist tyranny?
Lori @ 5:46 p.m., “Well, that’s why we have to fight the public education and political battle now.”
Lori, many of us have been fighting these ideological battles for decades: and look where it’s got us. The good news might be, as Ezra says, “the worse the better”, or words to that effect: Ted Byfield said the same thing about a decade or more ago. Having little imagination or stomach—as batb points out—for “unpleasantness” of any kind, until they’re actually, literally, against the wall—and maybe not even then!—Canadians will sleep walk over the abyss. We’ve spent almost all our moral capital and we’re soon to be paupers. Stupid Canada.
And the elites of this country think people like SDAers are the problem . . .
is this now a moderated blog? if it is that’s ok knowing the current legal environment, but doesn’t that give RW a virtual victory?
bluetech, fc, and lookout: I’m so glad you are on the same page as me vis a vis Landolt and Byfield. They are true Canadian heroes.
Why does Canada have to lionize moonbat idiots while demonizing its truly heroic citizens? The gauge of our hurtling into the swamp–glug, glug, glug–is our shabby treatment of genuinely wise, prescient, and prophetic voices while giving the Order of Canada to the likes of David Suzuki and a cadre of other leftist sell-outs.
Who knows, bluetech? I might be in Ottawa in September!! 😉
fc: ’haven’t read Ted’s book yet—but I have had dinner with him! What a guy!
I hate to admit it but I agree with Socon on this issue. Eventually our progressive-lefty betters will cut away at our freedom the same way that they probably cut away at their arms in high school. They are helping to kill my Canada and I think they’re doing it for power. Take Kinsella for example; he’s a huge hypocrite, but he does it for power… such are the HRCs.
Please don’t say that all Muslims are terrorists. It’s the same argument that people use when they say all conservatives are bible belting cousin marrying inbred christians. It’s not true and it’s a tactic used only to make the accuser feel better without any merit.
Hey infidels, give me millions too!
Not all Muslims are terrorists…but oddly enough, so many terrorists are Muslim. Funny that.
How many Buddhist terrorists? None.
How many Wiccan terrorists? None.
How many Christian terrorists? None.
Yeah, I can see how some people hate ALL religions equally.
Mr. Snark,
Freedom is an absolute. Either you are free to do something or you are not. If you have to watch what you say you are not free.
The reason why I usually disagree with Socon is because I believe liberalism (in the classical John S. Mill sense) to be directly aligned with modern conservatism. I am taxed on smokes to pay for someone else’s health care… to me this is a Liberal policy, but not one of liberalism. As is a moderate dislike of abortion… when you take life (or the likelihood of life) from a fetus, you are infringing on its right to life.
This takes a left turn sometimes though… for stuff like the death penalty I don’t think it’s right for the government to have that power. The person may be a monster, but we are monsters for taking his/her (but more likely his) life.
Anyhow, we should have the freedom to be jerks, but also the responsibility to deal with the consequences of being jerks. Recently I had it out with Irwin over evolution. I was a jerk because I felt like he (and the other God types) was confusing a belief in the scientific process with a belief in a type of god where it is really a belief in uncertainty… I took a bunch of crap from those people for a few days but that was the burden I took for insulting something that they hold dear… even if I think it’s childish.
The problem for me was that your snark strikes too close to the tripe that is spewed by some here and other places. People are free to say crap like that, but I should be free to make fun of them for doing so.
Eeyore,
From Wikipedia:
# 7 Christian terrorist organizations
* 7.1 Army of God
* 7.2 Christian Identity
* 7.3 Aryan Nations
* 7.4 Christian Patriots
* 7.5 Lambs of Christ
* 7.6 Nagaland Rebels
* 7.7 Groups in the former Yugoslavia
o 7.7.1 Tsar Lazar Guard
o 7.7.2 White Eagles
* 7.8 Group in Poso, Indonesia
* 7.9 God’s Army
* 7.10 Ku Klux Klan
* 7.11 Sons of Freedom
* 7.12 Lebanese groups
o 7.12.1 Guardians of the Cedars
o 7.12.2 Lebanese Forces
* 7.13 Groups in Northern Ireland
o 7.13.1 Religion as a factor
o 7.13.2 Groups
* 7.14 The Lord’s Resistance Army
* 7.15 Groups in Russia
o 7.15.1 Russian National Unity
o 7.15.2 Russian National Socialists
# 8 Historical cases of Christian terrorism
* 8.1 St. Bartholomew’s Day massacre, 1572
* 8.2 Gunpowder Plot, 1605
* 8.3 Cromwellian conquest of Ireland, 1649-53
* 8.4 Iron Guard and Lăncieri, 1927-1945
* 8.5 Christian Terrorism in Indonesia
* 8.6 Radical Christian Activists
* 8.7 Concerned Christians
# 9 Notable individuals
* 9.1 George Habash
* 9.2 Mark David Uhl
* 9.3 August Kreis
* 9.4 Pastor Clifford Peeples
* 9.5 Billy Wright
* 9.6 Eric Robert Rudolph
You’re wrong.
Love,
Jon
PS Buddhists and Hindus regularly participate in terrorism in Sri Lanka.
PPS Wicca is not a real religion
When will our so called leaders come out of their collective trance visions of multiculturalism? Than they can start to realize where at war on two fronts here.
One on the ground with real soldiers dying for constitutional rights being taken away?
The second of course is the legal front. Being that Sharia law as a foundation of religious Law in Islam. We now have the enemy trying to use our own humanity, with rule of Natural law against us. With quasi Trudopian courts with no tradition with English common law.
If the anti-Hebrew-Israeli faction win with the help of Islamists to stomp out any criticism, or opinions not in government fashion, or their Religion in any terms, it won’t be long before the real witch hunt begins against all our institutions. Schools, work place, rotary club , Intrusive social workers, you name it. Leftists allied with jihadists the former hoping to overcome the latter for Empire. Hum sounds familiar.
With greater powers given Ontario this month, & copied by Provincial HRC,s , sooner or latter. The real rot will begin with the death of liberty in this Nation. I believe the worst Sufferers will be Muslims, since they will now come under a different set of laws that most tried to flee. Winning will also terrorize those who hate the Jihadists & what they are doing from even talking out.
Ending on an ironic note. The more victims of the press these Empire builders attack. The more there exposed as the Inquisitions they are. I hope this can be stopped as fast as possible for all our sake if not the Country‘s. There a mutation of the deadly kind, no Democracy can survive.
Jon: “Please don’t say that all Muslims are terrorists.”
Who’s saying that? I’m certainly not, and most SDA-ers aren’t. To assert that that’s what we think is a nice conceit for those who defend Islamofascism.
If you look at the facts, it would appear that there are a great many Muslims who ARE terrorists (check out New York, the Pentagon, Pennsylvania on 9/11; Bali, etc., etc.) but that doesn’t mean that “all Muslims are terrorists.”
GIVE ME A BREAK.
Word to those feeding Ron Good: DON’T DO IT. Starve him.
Jon:
http://www.therereligionofpeace.com lists more than 11,000 deaths as a result of actions undertaken by Islamic extremists since 9/11.
In the interest of balance, can you please enlighten us as to how many human beings following Christian tenets murdered other human beings in the name of their religion during same time period?
Perhaps you could consult with Romeo Dallaire. He’s pretty good at moral equivalence, too.
And Jon:
Could you provide us with the Christian Triumph of Death chant equivalent to ‘Allah Akhbar’?
how quickly we forgit
protestants and katholics killing because of their religious differences, try N Ireland
but this discussion isn’t about that, it’s about the lossing of freedom of speach!!!!!
GYM:
Ireland? Mindless tribal killers cloaking themselves in religious legitimacy.
What specific Christian tenets were being followed during that conflict?
Mind you, Great Britain has been in steady decline since Cromwell.
What is the point of this cartoon?
Beyond needling muslims that is?
In law, proving intent is a crucial aspect.
What is the intent here?
There are critisms and critiques that are relevant. And then there are idiotic cartoons like this that are meant to serve no purpose other than to instigate a reaction.
The former is a hallmark of maturity, the latter a hallmark of childhood.
Grow up.
“www.therereligionofpeace.com lists more than 11,000 deaths as a result of actions undertaken by Islamic extremists since 9/11.”
And the Americans have killed how many?
I think you should add Israelis to that list too, since those 11,000 probably include Israelis.
Just questions.
mug:
Not familiar with the facts leading up to the cartoon?
mug,
Utterly irrelevant. Cartoonists being held in jail? for needling?
Editorial cartoonists?
THINK.
please send me to a Syrian prison for a year – I can take it
whoot:
OK. I’ll bite.
How many were killed on Iwo Jima in 48 hours?
Hint: It’s on wikipedia.
Mug: If the only purpose of a cartoon is to “needle” a group; so be it. Satire, lampooning, mocking, ridicule, are all part of cartooning and serve a vital purpose in a free society. Usually, behind any effective “needling”, there is an element of truth. Canada in particular has a long tradition of satirical and hard rude comedy … none should be spared.
In the end, it matters not what purpose a cartoon serves … what matters is that you be allowed to publish. Whether it is “mature” or not is simply a matter of opinion. Who is going to govern the “maturity” of cartoons or whether “needling” is allowed? The West has functioned by providing a free market of ideas … to stifle that, you stifle the West.
As far as Muslims in general:
I have grave concern with Islam … the religion. It is barbaric and unreformed. It is my belief that devout Muslims will find nothing but frustration and alienation in modern Western society. Devout Muslims can’t function within modern Western states and that’s why they agitate. Modernism and especially Western values are anathema to them. They can’t believe in what Mohammad taught … can’t follow his example, and be happy in a free, democratic, pluralistic, society.
paul:
Far as I know, the right to not be offended does not exist in either our constitution of that of the US.
Especially in the US, where free speech is protected.
I’m not worried at all about the survival of Western values.
Any time there’s another outrageous ‘artistic expression’ ripping down or ridiculing traditional Western values, I just yawn.
Newspaper Editors across the country should reprint these cartoons whenever the HRC tries to censor newspapers.
The cartoons are fair comment, give the 2007 environics poll which showed that 8% of Canadian Muslims believe that murder is an acceptable political activity in Canada.
Rabbit — This is the way I look at it –
READY, ABOUT TURN, AIM, FIRE.
Don’t blame those that take advantage of our weakness, blame those that allow it to happen. Those amongst us that would rather die on their knees than live on their feet are the problem.
if one is committing violence in the name of christianity then that person is not a christian. the followers of islam commit violence because it is called for in the koran and hadiths.
Thanks old white guy, but that’s a point that non-Christians (at least the mentally challenged leftists) will NEVER get. They will find quotes from the Bible advocating violence and claim equivalence…of course, those are mostly from the OLD Testament that has been superseded by the NEW Testament.
Then, they’ll find quotes in the NEW Testament and claim equivalence…but not realize that they are quoting a parable.
Christ taught peace and love and and forgiveness and demanded we turn the other cheek so that it may be struck if we are offended or punished…Christ did NOT teach or promote ANY hate or war or punishment or ill-will.
Christians are instructed to emulate Christ and anyone who practices hate or war or punishment or ill-will is NOT CHRISTian and will be rejected and disowned vocally by true Christians.
Mohammed taught violence and war and punishment and hate. Muslims are instructed to emulate Mohammed. Muslims who practice hate or war or punishment or ill-will ARE Muslims and are CELEBRATED by true Muslims.
Pretty simple to me. White and black. Right and wrong. Good and evil.
But, say the critics, “Christianity wants to take away my freedom to do ugly things, so Christianity is bad. Muslims don’t preach to me so they’re okay”.
Oh, I pity the blind fools!
What is the point of this cartoon?
Beyond needling muslims that is?
In law, proving intent is a crucial aspect.
What is the intent here?
At the risk of playing “mug”‘s game… this Bruce MacKinnon cartoon was meant to “needle” or criticise not a religion or an ethnic group but a real individual, a Cape Breton convert to Islam and wife of a terrorist suspect, who was drawn pretty much as she looks and voicing the kind of overheated and tiresome whining we have come to expect from the families and advocates of terrorist suspects.
MacKinnon, himself a fairly left-of-centre person politically, has been in trouble before, once for a cartoon of a self-pitying looter (almost completely obscured by the television he or she was carrying). While it was impossible for anyone to identify anything in the cartoon that would suggest that the figure was of any particular race, MacKinnon was pilloried for a “racist” cartoon by the predictable Left in Nova Scotia, making the typical racist assumption of the Left that if you criticise looting, you must be attacking non-white people.
The Nova Scotia Human Rights Commission has largely been a make-work project for friends of friends and people who couldn’t make much of a living doing anything else rather than a hotbed of loopy activists. If past practice is any predictor, MacKinnon’s case will drag on for several years and, unless the Halifax Chronicle-Herald caves in to the complainants, will be quietly dismissed.
Keep lying and spinning the truth, Kate. It’s what you’re best at, cartoon spray art notwithstanding.
Thanks Eeyore, I usually find myself in the position of informing the blatantly ignorant. Same old story everytime. Idiots.
Some recently arrived Muslim fanatic wants to kill Kaffaars, with the authority to do so provided by the Quran and his hero, Mohammad, and these twisted people want to blame their peaceful Christian neighbours. Makes so much sense.
“I’m starting to think that it’s reached the point where violence is needed to shove a stake in the heart of leftist Political Correctness and leftist speech suppression.”
I suggest the hiring of Aboriginals as a proxy. They’d probably be able to burn the HRC offices to the ground and not get charged.
And isn’t it about time a Quran based hate complaint was launched? How about thousands of Quran based hate complaints? Starting with Mohammad calling Jews the sons of apes and pigs and then progressing to Quran 9:5 as actual and unarguable incitement to commit mass murder.
Set You Free,
I was responding to Eeyorye, to show that there are Christian Terrorists. I don’t want to play a game of moral equivalence. I regularly read TROP. It’s a good site and it shows a real menace to global peace and security in Islamic Terrorism. But Eeyore said there are NO Christian terrorists… and in that he is wrong.
In regards to allah Akhbar?.. Maybe Goodbye = God be with you. Either way though most people would readily admit that islamic terrorism is greater than terrorism rooted in other ideologies.
I long for the days when immigrants came to Canada and became part of the community, they joined the Fire Department, the Legion, the Masonic Hall etc. Now we have immigrants that start up organizations that excluded anyone not of their religion or race. What purpose does it serve to allow people to form non-prophet organizations that exclude 90 percent of the population? The arrogance of some of the Islamic Organizations astounds me, whom do they really represent? It’s time to open their books and find out if they are speaking on behalf of Muslims or are they Political Arms of the Jihadies?
Regarding the cartoon, it wasn’t offensive if you have Canadian Values but I suppose a Wahhabist might find it offensive and run to the HRC in a hissy fit. The political Islamist are on a mission in Canada, the Islamification of our culture is their goal and the HRCs are a tool being used to achieve said goal.
Where did equality go for all Canadians? What’s wrong with being equal to each other, why are we allowing Illiberal Organizations like CJC and CIC superior status in Canada?