When the concept of “multiculturalism” was introduced to Canadians, most assumed it meant more pavilions at Folkfest;
The underside of multiculturalism is its ideological root in West-bashing. Sometime around 1960, it was determined by a few French intellectuals (whose unintelligible gibberish other intellectuals pretended to understand) that the greatest criminals against humanity in the history of the world weren’t the Nazi and Communist murderers of 100 million people. Rather, it was European colonialists, who imposed their cultural values on their captive audience.
Even though Canada was a colony itself, and had never indulged in imperialism of any kind, Canadians were informed they must share in the blame because of their religious, racial and cultural association with former colonialists.
I’ve asked this before – if all cultures are equally valuable, then who are these so-called “refugees” they keep sending us?
>em>Stephane Dion has announced that the Liberals would provide a 75 million dollar fund to provide security at ‘places of worship’.
ET, this is evidence of the veracity of your crackpot theory on multiculturalism?
The truth is, multiculturalism (official) is pavilions at Folkfest. Beyond that multicultural merely describes the reality that is Canada. It also happens to describe the USA. Canada also happens to be a melting pot. Canada and the US are both multicultural melting pots, if you will.
What Barbara Kay seems to want is a society where some kind of regimented official patriotism is inculcated from birth. Something like North Korea. Maybe it’s not such a stretch when Harper is derided as “Dear Leader.”
ET said,
[…]Diamond’s theme has nothing to do with ‘luck’ but with ecology.
[…]The earth is made up of multiple ‘biomes’ or ecological systems.
[…] That basic ‘material stuff’ is what the human population has to work with in each biome.
[…]The European biome is the richest on this planet
Even though I disagree completely the ecological system of Europe gave Caucasians an advantage, lets suppose it did,
then luck would still be the number one reason why Caucasians are such a successful group because it is by luck that they ended up in the right ecological system ( unless they could see the future ).
I’m sorry but Diamond’s theory mostly says that;
Caucasians had luck on their side.
Lucky to have the right ecological system, lucky to have cattle and so on and so forth…
Which is a weak theory only a Caucasian full of guilt would ever dream up…
It is true Caucasians ended up in a good climate by luck (and by no other reason unless they could see the future ) but that is where luck ends.
An easy life makes people lazy and complacent, then if Europeans had an easy life compared to say Africans, how come the ones having easy access to everything were so creative and invented so many things to make life even easier and better?
take for example fresh water,
Don’t you think the more serious their need for water, and the harder it is for people to get to a fresh water source, and the further they are from a water source, the more likely they will be to invent something to get the water to them or at least make it easier to get to the water?
Africa’s climate is so hot and dry it can kill a person that goes without water for too long.
There are not much trees to provide shade and there are not lakes everywhere in Africa, but still they invented close to nothing to make it easier to get fresh water every day,
Africans needed access to fresh water much more seriously than Romans did.
but Romans invented plumbing and aqueducts …
Why would Romans invent plumbing and aqueducts if their ecological system gave them a much more easier access to water than Africans, and a much less greater need for water than Africans and gave them cattle and horses to carry the water for them?
ET,
Do you really believe people who have apple trees in their backyards are more likely to want easier access to apples and more likely to invent a carriage or some device to have easier access to apples that are a few steps away…
than people who have to walk 15 miles to get to an apple tree and then have to walk back another 15 miles and carry a very heavy load of apples on their back?
Sorry but it does not make any sense and that is pretty much what Diamond says.
Stephen 8:39, (no I am not arguing with myself)
You raise the poitn that there are different types of refugees and immigrants. Those fleeing a war, whether indigenous or foreign created isnt really the point, and economic refugees.
Actually, I don’t think I did raise the point you mention, so I can’t comment further on the distinction between economic migrants and refugees.
So the question is best applied to economic refugees, if all cultures are of equal value why would we want to accept the practices of cultures that may have held them back economically, if they are economic refugees/immigrants. And it isnt about accepting them it is more about not denigrating the culture and conditions that brought the wealth to this part of the world.
I don’t follow your logic here. What ‘question’ are you talking about? What evidence is there that ‘cultural practice’ may have ‘held back’ economic migrants (i.e. what you seem to be calling ‘economic refugees’)? Do you have any?
What ‘culture and conditions’ have brought wealth to ‘this part of the world’? What part of the world are you talking about, and what ‘culture and conditions’ brought wealth there? You’re very vague.
Current economic conditions have soemthing to do with starting economic conditions, and it is a long road (see Jared Diamond’s Guns, Germs and Steel) but there are numerous incidences where culture makes a difference (see discussions on Nelson and Trafalgar re British warrior and political culture vs spainish culture) Also look at the differences between what some areas have done with oil wealth (Alberta, Norway, Texas) vs others (Libya, Sudan, post revolutionary Iran and now Venezuala) Management matters, culture matters.
This confused summary of history makes chapters of the Celestine Prophecy look positively magisterial.
War refugees are different matters. It is our cultural tradition to accept those from war torn or persecution driven parts of the world, we dont make too much of a distinction of whether or not it was locally started or imported.
I don’t know what you mean by ‘our cultural tradition’ here.
With reference to Iraq, the case I mentioned in my post above, the ‘cultural tradition’ of those who launched the war that has lead to the massive refugee crisis has been to accept a very, very small portion of those Iraqis displaced by the consequences of the their actions.
Perhaps you can clarify your comments.
There is no such a african celebration called KWANZA is all a left over from the 70s drug wackos
That’s beautiful realization. Canada and the United States are former colonies. We should be lining up for some kind of reparations from England, Spain, and France.
“Canada and the United States are former colonies. We should be lining up for some kind of reparations from England, Spain, and France.”
I get first dibs on the wine cellar in Buckingham Palace!