83 Replies to “Maybe It’s The French Passport….”

  1. *
    Stephane, you dont have to put up the white flag
    Those days are over
    You dont have to sell your body to the night
    Stephane, you dont have to wear that dress tonight
    Walk the streets for money
    You dont care if its wrong or if its right
    *

  2. My greatest fear of sending the vandoos into Afghanistan is that they would do as their European ancestors are want to do in a tight military situation.
    Is this man showing them the way?
    CRB

  4. Reminds me of the olde joke:
    FOR SALE: French rifles . . . never fired, only dropped once.

  5. Dion makes statement during the rally to celebrate Quebecs Bill 101
    Dion says: Bill 101 is a great Canadian Law

  6. “My greatest fear of sending the vandoos into Afghanistan is that they would do as their European ancestors are want to do in a tight military situation.”
    CRB, you should be ashamed of yourself for this disgusting statement. The Vandoos is a regiment with a long and storied fighting history. They *want* to be in Afghanistan. How dare you call them cowards? Who the hell do you think you are saying such a thing?! What kind of scumbag mocks our brave troops serving in harms way?

  7. Here’s the part that got me chewing the rug:
    “I don’t play politics on the backs of the tragedies and the victims that are growing,”
    In the words of Colonel Henry Potter, “Horse Hockey”. What a crock of S**T!

  8. Is it just me or does it seem a Quebec soldiers life has more value than the other Canadian soldiers?

  9. “My greatest fear of sending the vandoos into Afghanistan is that they would do as their European ancestors are want to do in a tight military situation.”
    That comment is best made from the safety of “Blog-Land” and never to be made to any Royal 22nd member or anyone that has served with them.
    The Royal 22nd is a great regiment and takes second place to no one on the planet.
    Pat

  10. This is so rich. To avoid playing politics with soldier’s deaths, they play politics. And think we are too stupid to see it.
    Quebec politicians disgust me.
    Canadian and NATO troops in theatre, and their families: what you are doing is necessary, and I am thankful for your sacrifices, on behalf of my children, and their future children.

  11. Blackroc: Sad but true.
    Does anyone have a list of the Canadian regiments that have been in Afghanistan?
    The reason I ask is that there are numerous “famous” Canadian Military regiments. But in the media I only hear the Vandoos referred to as “famed.”
    When the Pats were over there were they referred to as the “famed” Pats by the media?
    How about the “famed” Royal Canadian Regiment?
    There’s quite a list of “famed” Canadian regiments with distinguished pedigrees. None of which get the recognition or attention that the media doles out to the Vandoos.

  12. I’m more inclined to agree with JWestphal than CRB, but I would like to see, at least once a media item about Les Van Doos where their name is not prefaced by “legendary”, “famous”, or some other such word. If they are famous its because they were one of the few French Canadian regiments that did fight.

  13. the list of Regiments that have served in Afghanistan is very long. The MSM goes about the 3 Infantry Regiments – PPCLI, RCR & VanDoo’s, but hardly ever lists all the other troops’ regimental affiliations.
    Many, many reservists have served with and are serving within these regiments. And then there are the Armour, Artillery and Engineer’s, the Comms, Supply, Admin, Medical, Provost . . . . the list goes on. We have Navy and Air Force personnel also serving . . .

  14. I believe this is a picture of Stephane Dion surrendering to the the Taliban and the Parliamentary Press Gallery.
    What else would one expect from Tonda McCharles and fellow travellers like Jim Travers at the Star?
    Stephane Dion finally admits they don’t know why they sent troops into harms way. What else would one expect from LIEberalism?
    Its just like my 19 year old son said in his essay on our erstwhile LIEberal government, quoting Mussolini:
    “The truth is, men have grown tired of liberty.”
    The hypocrisy of their position is staggering.

  15. ‘In the words of Colonel Henry Potter, “Horse Hockey”‘
    Isn’t it Colonel Sherman Potter? I think he’s the one that would say “Horse Hockey”.
    I share your sentiment.

  17. I wonder if the Canadian MSM would use the word ‘famed’ for any regiment if they understood that word meant that they had killed more of the enemy than they of our soldiers..

  18. Hans Rupprecht, right, it’s hypocrisy of the first order and it’s name is Lieberal.
    Mr. Dion says he has a plan. Like hell. His plan is to fly by the seat of his pants, critique everything Harper does and remember nothing about what went down under his Mentor, Chretien’s regime.
    The brave Opposition Parties are all threatening to take down the Government over Afghanistan, let them go ahead.
    Support for the mission hasn’t changed but the crap keeps flowing from the media.
    Stephi says he would never try to gain political points on the backs of dead soldiers but seems the lot of them are doing just that.
    Yeah, lets go to the polls.

  19. Nice picture, looks like he crapped himself.
    The worst is the CBC reporting, they said “two more QUEBEC soldiers were killed. These guys are not fighting under the Quebec flag, it’s CANADA’s flag.
    The other soldiers all were called CANADIAN soldiers no matter which province they came from.
    Folks, why do we put up with those boors?

  20. There is a great editorial in today`s National Post re Citoyen Dion and cohorts….the Post has them pegged…a must read!

  21. Re: “My greatest fear of sending the vandoos into Afghanistan is that they would do as their European ancestors are want to do in a tight military situation.”
    & Pat at August 27, 2007 1:07 PM: “That comment is best made from the safety of “Blog-Land” and never to be made to any Royal 22nd member or anyone that has served with them.”
    I’ll second Pat here. Does anyone else see the irony of someone posting, most likely from the safety of their (parent’s?) home, inferring Quebec soldiers currently fighting (and dying) for CANADA in Afghanistan are cowards?
    Unless you’re posting from the war zone “Boudicae” and “CRB”, then I’d say YOU’RE THE COWARDS. Disgusting. Revolting. Give your head a shake.

  22. If they don’t want to go they should have quit the military, the mission started 4/5 years ago.
    “I don’t play politics on the backs of the tragedies and the victims that are growing,”
    In the words of Colonel Henry Potter, “Horse Hockey”. What a crock of S**T!
    indeed because of gamilgharbi a tragedy we got gun control.
    I have to take back 1000 words I said re the star that is a great pic.
    LOL,

  23. Re: Posted by: DrWright | August 27, 2007 2:43 PM
    “If they don’t want to go they should have quit the military…”
    Don’t want to go??? They’re there now! Those guys are heroes!!! They asked to go! Don’t you get it? Again, they are heroes!!! Are you getting shot at for Canada? Or driving over terrain where bombs are buried? Or loading your fellow soldiers bodies on planes back home?
    Come on people!

  24. I have to agree with those who will not condone insults aimed at the vandoos. It seems to me like they know what needs to be done and they’re doing it at great risk to their own safety, It’s not their collective fault that the politicians use their sacrifices for personal gain or that the msm have forgotten what unbiased journalism is.
    They have put themselves in harm’s way to do a job. They are from Quebec. Quebec is part of a united Canada. GO, CANADA!!!

  25. I expect the Vandoos are happy campers because they FINALLY get to go and do what they’ve been training their whole careers for. Real live bad guys to shoot at and stuff you can blow up. Hell, they even get vehicles younger than they are. Woo, and brand new TANKS to play with!
    Its like the friggin’ Olympics of Canadian soldiering. Bet your ass they want to be there.
    I wouldn’t want to be Layton or Dion left alone with that lot. Sharp words would be the least of it.

  26. Homer Simpson called the people of France “Cheese eating surrender Monkeys”. I didn’t think he meant French people in general. However, we shall wait and see.

  27. color of the French naval flag ?
    White
    Number of gears on a French Army tank ?
    six . . 5 forward and 1 reverse in case of attack from the rear.
    First thing a French recruit is taught in boot camp?
    See the above picture

  28. The Laytons and Dions are on autopilot when it comes to the issue of the 22nd regiment.
    Today, there is NO conscription into the Canadian Armed Forces.
    It is a totally volunteer force.
    What business is it of theirs that an individual has made a free choice to sign up?
    At the very least, they are fighting ghosts of the past.

  29. Actually, Albertaman, it was Groundskeeper Willie: “That’s BonJOURRRRR, you cheese eating surrender monkeys!”, and yes, I watch way too much TV. 🙂

  30. Re: Fred “color of the French naval flag ?
    White”
    So when are you signing up to fight, Fred?

  31. The picture is, possibly, from Dion’s speech in teh Maritimes – where he flip flops- and says that even though, when he was a Minister, he rejected allowing Newfoundland and Nova Scotia keeping their offshore revenues without equalization clawbacks – because it is unfair – he is now saying that because Harper is saying this…he’s now flipped. He’ll allow them to keep both their offshore and all their equalization ‘when he is Prime Minister’.
    Remember, he’s also insisting that Canada implement the Kyoto requirements – even though his party, the Liberals, who signed the agreement, did nothing for 13 years – and if we were to start Kyotoism now, we’d end up worse than Zimbabwe.But Dion is insisting that it be complied with. After all – what does he care about bankrupting the economy as long as he’s in power?
    He’s also insisting that the Afghanistan War is ‘wrong’ – another flip – and wants the troops out by /09.
    And he’s aligning himself with Williams against Harper – a dangerous move, frankly, for the two of them can easily be mocked as an insane comedy duo.
    By the way – the MSM are relentless in their Bash Harper attacks. Notice how CTV is chastizing Harper for not saying ‘a word’ about Afghanistan in his speech – just referring to the military.
    The hands in the air? Remember the jokes about France during the build up to the Iraq War?
    “What do you call 100,000 Frenchmen with their hands in the air? Answer: The French Army.
    “How many Frenchmen would it take to defend Paris? Answer: I don’t know; it’s never been tried.
    “Why are the main streets lined with trees in Paris? Answer; So the German Army can march in the shade’.

  32. This leftist talk of ending the mission now should once and for all be exposed for what it is.
    To cowardly turn tail and run, without having accomplished the goal, not only insults the dead and their families, it gives their deaths no meaning.
    Which proves they do not support the troops.
    This filthy and cowardly trio of Layton, Dion and Duceppe should be run out of the country. (Although, I can happily imagine a much more deserved punishment that I can’t type here)

  33. I question the courage of anyone that calls Queerbec or Morontario home.
    Those two provinces are the arsehole of the nation and they have done more to undermine the mission and gut the military than any other region.
    If Stephanie Dion came to Alberta and talked about stabbing our troops in the back, he would get the bum’s rush out the door, and a boost into the dumpster out back.
    The fwench have rightly earned their reputations for cowardice, and it will take some real, honest hard work to repair that.

  34. Re: Jim at August 27, 2007 3:53 PM “The fwench have rightly earned their reputations for cowardice”
    If dying for your country isn’t enough to prove your bravery, then what is? They are heroes. You, Jim, are the coward.

  36. This putz needs to be called on the carpet with this question:
    How has been accpetbale for you up until now that Canadians outside Quebec have died in service to the mission in Afghanistan? Why is there suddenly such a vehement call to end the mission the moment soldiers from Quebec die?

  37. Posted by Jim “Those two provinces are the arsehole of the nation and they have done more to undermine the mission and gut the military than any other region.”
    Apparently Jim, you’re not big on reading cause if you were to scan previous posts you would have noticed this, concerning new enlistees……
    “They come from all provinces with several contributing an unusually large share despite their small populations:
    Nfld. and Labrador 1.4%
    PEI 0.3%
    Nova Scotia 11.8%
    New Brunswick 6.4%
    Quebec 20.3%
    Ontario 33.6%
    Manitoba 4.4%
    Saskatchewan 1.3%
    Alberta 10.2%
    British Columbia 8.3%
    Yukon Territory N/A
    Northwest Territories 0.2%
    Nunavut N/A
    Outside Canada 1.8%”
    So the arseholes of the nation (Quebec and Ontario) have 53.9% of the new recruits yet somehow those two provinces are undermining the mission. Any other words of wisdom Jim?

  38. Re:”Jimbo:
    What was that last sentence all about?”
    Sorry if I wasn’t clear. Jim at August 27, 2007 3:53 PM is questioning the courage of Quebecers, as per “I question the courage of anyone that calls Queerbec or Morontario home”.
    The soldiers in Afghanistan right now are Quebecers, and three have died for CANADA. What more can one do to prove their bravery?
    I’m thinking going to a foreign country and fighting, and dying, for Canada is a lot more brave than making disparaging comments about those same Quebec soldiers from the comfort of home or office, wouldn’t you agree.
    If someone has problems with the politics, as I do, then make that call. But Jim, and others (see above), are calling into question the bravery of French Canadian soldiers, whom I consider, rightly, to be heroes. It makes me sick.

  39. Most of the French reputation for cowardice comes from their performance during WWII. The French army performed very well, with the odd exception up until then. Louis XIV, XIX, XIV, Napoleon. Not so much during the franco Prussian Wars of 1869 – 71 or thereabouts. Millions of them died valiantly during WW1, though the mutinees of 1916-1917 stained their record.
    It was WW11 that they are still trying to recover from. What was theoretically the best army in Europe was destroyed in a matter of weeks, and then half the country ended up siding with the enemy. Their navy had to be destroyed to prevent it from falling into enemy hands, because unlike the naval forces of other defeated European countries it did not carry on the fight from over seas. French troops fought against us in North Africa, and the middle east. The French overseas colonies were actively hostile to the allied forces WW11. The French were arguably a bigger enemy than they were an ally.
    Their co-culteralists in Canada were not much better. Remember the conscription crisis? French Canadians, for the most part did not want to be bothered helping save Europe from Nazi oppression because they thought it wasn’t their war. In retrospect, maybe they were right and it wasn’t worth fighting for. Look at the WW11 battle honours of the French Canadian regiments. With a few notable exceptions (the Van doos, Les Fusilier Monroyal, Le Regiment Du Chaudiers ) sp? Many of them don’t have any because they were assigned to home defence only.
    Your reputation is only as good as your last fight and if you consider WW11, Algeria, Indo China, Its a well deserved one.

  41. Re: “Your reputation is only as good as your last fight ” Posted by: minuteman at August 27, 2007 4:37 PM
    They are overseas fighting, and dying, right now! That’s the point. There are near as many French Canadian soldiers enlisted right now in the CANADIAN armed forces as from all Western Provinces combined.
    If anyone blames politicians and/or media for making special consideration for Quebec soldiers, then they should also be prepared to give credit where credit’s due. Doesn’t seem like that’s the case for some.

  42. “I wonder if the Canadian MSM would use the word ‘famed’ for any regiment if they understood that word meant that they had killed more of the enemy than they of our soldiers..”
    Kursk,
    The MSM,and left in general,is far too busy trying to rewrite Canadian military history into nothing but that of peacekeepers.
    My understanding is that in the last century,including two brutal world wars,Canadian soldiers killed more of the enemy,per capita,than any other fighting force on the face of this planet.
    True heroes,every one.
    “I have to agree with those who will not condone insults aimed at the vandoos.”
    Rob R,
    If conservatives don’t come to the defence of our young brave soldiers,who the f*ck in Canada will?

  43. Jimbo, I am prepared to give credit where it is do. The media is really driving me nuts with their never ending references to the “legendary” Van Doos, and Quebec soldiers. Not all Quebec soldiers are French Canadian. A lot of the Quebec base regiments have historically been Anglo units (three that come to mind are the Royal Canadian Hussars, the Royal Montreal Regiment, and the Black Watch of Canada – All Montreal based units)
    Between the regs and the reserves I spent almost twenty years in uniform, so over the years I have known a lot of soldiers, and in my time in the army I recall a fair number of anglos served in the Van Doos, this was as a result of them not being able to recruit enough francos to fill their ranks.

  44. Minuteman:
    Actually the death of the French fighting spirit can more accurately be set at late in WW1 in the maw that was Verdun. If you read any of the histories of the battle – much of it was unbelievable senseless slaughter at the hands of artillery – it will come as no surprise that muntinies happened and that ever since the french have resisted going to war. I doubt that any other nation would have reacted any differently.
    The Van Doos may in fact have a proud history – I can not say one way or the other, having not read much about them – but on the whole francophone Quebecers have been miserable, cowardly, isolationist and pacifist warriors. It is to early to tell if the Van Doos will live up to their rep or not. But if they do have deserters (can you imagine the press coverage of the courtmarshall trials?) or if the Conservatives rotate them out early due to a poor performance (i.e. Anglo-Canadian lives are cheaper than Franco-Canadian lives) the consequences for the Canadian confederation will be severe…
    As for the ‘get out now’ and ‘put it in writing that we will leave in 2009’ politics of the opposition: that is similar to saying in December 1944 that we will stop the attack on the Nazis by March 1st 1945 at the latest. If ever there was a way to provide a morale boost to our enemies this is it.

  45. Minuteman:
    Actually the death of the French fighting spirit can more accurately be set at late in WW1 in the maw that was Verdun. If you read any of the histories of the battle – much of it was unbelievable senseless slaughter at the hands of artillery – it will come as no surprise that muntinies happened and that ever since the french have resisted going to war. I doubt that any other nation would have reacted any differently.
    The Van Doos may in fact have a proud history – I can not say one way or the other, having not read much about them – but on the whole francophone Quebecers have been miserable, cowardly, isolationist and pacifist warriors. It is to early to tell if the Van Doos will live up to their rep or not. But if they do have deserters (can you imagine the press coverage of the courtmarshall trials?) or if the Conservatives rotate them out early due to a poor performance (i.e. Anglo-Canadian lives are cheaper than Franco-Canadian lives) the consequences for the Canadian confederation will be severe…
    As for the ‘get out now’ and ‘put it in writing that we will leave in 2009’ politics of the opposition: that is similar to saying in December 1944 that we will stop the attack on the Nazis by March 1st 1945 at the latest. If ever there was a way to provide a morale boost to our enemies this is it.

  46. Minuteman:
    Actually the death of the French fighting spirit can more accurately be set at late in WW1 in the maw that was Verdun. If you read any of the histories of the battle – much of it was unbelievable senseless slaughter at the hands of artillery – it will come as no surprise that muntinies happened and that ever since the french have resisted going to war. I doubt that any other nation would have reacted any differently.
    The Van Doos may in fact have a proud history – I can not say one way or the other, having not read much about them – but on the whole francophone Quebecers have been miserable, cowardly, isolationist and pacifist warriors. It is to early to tell if the Van Doos will live up to their rep or not. But if they do have deserters (can you imagine the press coverage of the courtmarshall trials?) or if the Conservatives rotate them out early due to a poor performance (i.e. Anglo-Canadian lives are cheaper than Franco-Canadian lives) the consequences for the Canadian confederation will be severe…
    As for the ‘get out now’ and ‘put it in writing that we will leave in 2009’ politics of the opposition: that is similar to saying in December 1944 that we will stop the attack on the Nazis by March 1st 1945 at the latest. If ever there was a way to provide a morale boost to our enemies this is it.

  47. Kate, I see that you have “fanned the fire” in this blog spot!! I’m from USA and I can see that this guy in pic) needs your sympathy, in a BAD way… Is he impotent, excuse me, important? LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  48. Robot Chicken:
    Yes, On and QC have 53.9% in the forces, but they have 66% of the population…
    A more interesting stat would be how many are from Vanc., TO and Montreal – the heart of Liberal and NDP support. If the Conservative part of Canada is doing the fighting, where do the left-wing parties get off telling them whether should or shouldn’t?

  49. Robot Chicken:
    Yes, On and QC have 53.9% in the forces, but they have 66% of the population…
    A more interesting stat would be how many are from Vanc., TO and Montreal – the heart of Liberal and NDP support. If the Conservative part of Canada is doing the fighting, where do the left-wing parties get off telling them whether should or shouldn’t?

  50. Robot Chicken:
    Yes, On and QC have 53.9% in the forces, but they have 66% of the population…
    A more interesting stat would be how many are from Vanc., TO and Montreal – the heart of Liberal and NDP support. If the Conservative part of Canada is doing the fighting, where do the left-wing parties get off telling them whether should or shouldn’t?

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