Is Stephane Dion running a party, or a gong show?
A Liberal MP is accusing the country’s top soldier of being “a prop” for the Conservative party after he described the 1990s as “a decade of darkness” for the military.
Gen. Rick Hillier, the chief of the defence staff, said in a speech to a defence group today that the Canadian Forces faced troubled times from 1994 on in a period when the Liberals worked to balance the federal budget with heavy budget cuts.
Liberal MP Denis Coderre says he is disappointed that Hillier would describe the Liberal era in such terms.
Thereby taking a statement of fact made before a small audience and repeating it to a a wider Canadian public to remind us that yes – under the Liberals, the Canadian Forces endured “a decade of darkness”, with soldiers at food banks, bullet rationing and rotting equipment.
Well done, Denis!
Let’s remember that Gen Hillier was appointed CDS by the Liberals – on February 4th, 2005.
So the Libs appoint Tory stooges to Deputy Minister level positions? If only ….
…i vote – gong show.
Kate: “Is Stephane Dion running a party, or a or a gong show?”
The military has a word for what Dijon is “running”… The CAF refer to it as a “Cluster FXXk”
Perhaps Hillier can confirm this 😉
…actually maybe i vote for the Liberals as
– Hogan’s Hero’s.
“I see nothing, hear nothing, KNOW nothing.”
well, I can say for a fact that the rot started the day turdeau became PM…the military was the librano/moonbat/dipper whipping boy from that point on….it would not be a stretch to say that the idiot libranos are directly responsible for the deaths of over 100 service personell due to shit ass equipment purchases….the libranos talk the peace-keeping talk, but they walk the chickenshit walk
The military were never deprived of finances, how dare Gen Hillier.
Besides, whats wrong with green cams in the desert?
before any of you idiot liberals attack me, my brothers and I did over 50 years service, including tours in the Golan, Cyprus, Somailia, NATO, 3 tours in Alert, North Atlantic Navy, etc, etc, etc….so I know exactly what I am talking about
yup, Gong show.
Coderre is outraged! He says the Lieberals “Proposed Billions for the Armed Forces”. This is a true statement. They “Proposed Billions” but they didn’t deliver. This is the norm for these folks. The same Lieberals signed Kyoto, and “proposed” to meet its commitments. They “Proposed” to kill the GST, they didn’t do that either. Of course they also “Proposed” to pull out of the free trade deal with the USA, but they couldn’t get around to it.
Leberal proposals do not buy anything other than moonbat votes.
The one thing the Lieberals did do right is taking on Gen Hillier. He is too smart and tough for the Lieberals and they are catching it in the teeth as a result. Looks good on them doesn’t it?
Lived through it, don’t need Codsrear to remind me.
Glad to see Gen H hasn’t changed since he was my CO… The man likes the truth, plainly spoken.
Which automatically eliminates the possibility of him being a liberal “prop”.
Coderre must have a twin brother. One man can’t look that greasy!!!
“The military has a word for what Dijon is “running”… The CAF refer to it as a “Cluster FXXk”
Perhaps Hillier can confirm this 😉
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux ”
I believe the correct Cdn Army terminology is GCF
Group Cluster Fxxk
Closely related to SNAFU, usually caused by REMF’s
No doubt it’s a Gong Show going on. One look at that stupid little puffed up prick, Coderre tells it all.
The Liberals gutted the Military, it’s a well known fact. Hypocritical Liberals like Coderre just don’t recognize truth, it’s a foreign concept.
Hillier is the best Chief of Staff our Military has had in memory. Telling it like it is in plain English/French is what you get from him and if that disappoints the likes of Coderre and company, tough!
Down with Jackasses.
Kingstonlad I don’t think you go back far enough. Deffinbaker started the rot. Pearson through Hellyard took the pride away. Trudeau excellerated it. As x RCN I lived through Pearson, didn’t survive Trudeau’s reign of terror
Help me out here, Is Coderre the guy that Marches with the Hezbolah?
he is a video of the insipid lying puke that was general under the liberals.picked out of CBCpravdas own archives.
http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-71-723-4320/conflict_war/somalia/clip10
sorry hit the button too fast.
He is General Jean Boyle- not fit to carry Hillier jockstrap.
and yes Coderre is the Hezbolah march man.
I remember a news photo Frank mag used on its cover during the chretien era – Da boss was on a tank, military helmet on backwards. Caption was:
“Oh, dis beeskeeping is givin’ me an ‘eadache!”
thanks Cal2 :
So we now know liberals favour lax terrorism laws, march with outlawed groups, Hate the military as we have always known but just confirms, This Socialist Liberal piece of crap should be gratefull for what he has in canada & gratefull for our forces who have had to endure the shit pieces of equipment the socialist gave them.
tony…you have a little more time in than me on the planet…I can only reference what my brothers and I lived through….turdeau hell
I was there to kingstonlad, the liberanos ALL belong on the end of a rope
I wonder when Borat Dion is going to put the gag order out on the rabble.
“I haf to speek for de party as too manny of the MPs know not what they say, uz canadien pipples must ‘ave been control by uz de guvern mint an listen what I say not to dez minister what say de bad sings”
I have already e-mailed my buddies current serving(inc. my son-inlaw)& ret.
Iam sending a e-mail to my MP Larry Miller Cons. demanding an apology in the House from that Socialist piece of Hezzbolah loving Turd.
Flood your MP’s Demanding an apology
Coderre isn’t too politically savvy by any means. That’s alright, he’s exposing his party for what it is.
http://splatto.net/blog/?p=443
Kingstonlad,
You walk the walk, best post of the day.
Hey Elvis Coderre: don’t forget to bring yourself and yours sideburns to the Elvis festival in Collingwood, usually the third weekend of July. Some of the guys may be willing to come up from Borden to check you out!
Cretin and Mo Strong in China trying to make Cretin a billionaire trading with the communist party while trying to destroy the Canadian auto industry over here via Kyoto.
Started with the Tri-Service and went downhill from there. Seems to me that all we have to do it put CDS General Hillier and Coderre in the same room for a few minutes and it’s solved.
Although Joan’s invite to Collingwood with a side trip from some of the folks at Borden sounds pretty good.
And the results at 12:56 p.m. West Coast Time is that Kingston Lad is in the lead for best post of the day.
Great stuff!! Nice to see more people willing to support our Military.
Regards,
Pat
A man with balls, EGADS that concept scares the mascara of these girly-men known as lieberals. Rick Hillier walks tall and calls a spade a spade, we would be proud if Alberta could claim him, he can’t be from Ontario or Quebec, too much of a man, don’t know what province he’s from but its gotta be on of the few where parents teach their kids lying is wrong. That’s another scary concept to lieberals like codpeice denny.
“Coderre defended the party’s legacy, saying that the Liberals under Paul Martin proposed adding billions to the defence budget.”
The road to oblivion is paved with good intentions like proposed billons for defence…child daycare, kyoto, etc. etc.
Thank goodness Martin and his moonbats were ditherers or they would have sunk us further than they did.
All of us, past and present Military know that we were a necessary evil to Trudeau and Cretian. We were like kids, seen, but not heard. Only when the Liberals needed a diversion and a chance to show the world that Canada was a player in the world would they call us out and send us to all the shit holes in the world so that the Government could pound its chest and say how great Canada was. The rest of the time it was crap. Most in the Military knew we were in trouble the day Cretin was elected. Helicopters were gone in a heartbeat. 14 years later and still waiting. The CDS at the time wanted the Helos and said so. What happened to him. He retired and the retired CDS was brought out of retirement and given the job. 93 convinced me that come or high water I would never vote Liberal. I’ve even considered NDP except for Layton. Too bad Peter Stopher and Alexa support that clown. For Military support they are next to no one. At least Harper had the guts to face the troops in Afghanistan and show that he cared. How often did Cretin or Martin go?
Second your comments Don, but the same back in the late ’70s and early ’80s. I love the Lib’s thinking: “We’re the open minded, internationalist, globe-trotting, sophisticates for making your lives hell, you’re the evil, narrow-minded, mean-spirited, churl for pointing it out.”
Denis Coderre should step down as the Liberal defence critic.
Denis Coderre forgets that Canada has had back-to-back mega surplus’s, starting in 1997!
Denis Coderre should go talk to our regular men and women in uniform. Or they just an inconvenient truth for him?
Go Hillier! My family members, who are currently serving in the military, really appreciate this gentleman.
I wonder why there is not much noise about another atrocity that the libranos have introduced: the anti-money laundering legislation. The financial institutions must report wide range of customers activity to the federal government according to the AML law. The suspicious activities include almost all transactions with cash and many with money orders… Suspicious is when a person has more than one bank account and more than one insurance policy… The finance industry is crazy about AML, guess the sanctions are severe. Still not much coverage about that invasion in privacy. Essentially, the banks, insurance companies etc. are supposed to report everything that falls within the definition of suspicious activity regardless of any privacy policies and of course without a warrant. Paul Martin’s baby monster.
Bartinsky:
Rick Hillier was born, raised and educated in Newfoundland…personally, I always found Newfies to be quite staight-shooters…
*throws a “r” up to previous post*
Codere: the Liberals had A PLAN for Billions
He should have stated the truth, Had NO Plan, No Plan, No Plan, No Plan, Just More Empty Rhetoric.
“Regi Patriaeque Fidelis”
General R.J. Hillier, C.M.M., M.S.C., C.D
Chief of the Defence Staff
General R.J. Hillier, CMM, CD
Born in Newfoundland and Labrador,
General Rick Hillier joined the Canadian Forces as soon as he could. Having enrolled in 1973, he graduated from Memorial University of Newfoundland in 1975 with a Bachelor of Science Degree. After completing his armour officer classification training, he joined his first regiment, the 8th Canadian Hussars (Princess Louise’s) in Petawawa, Ontario. …-
http://www.cds.forces.gc.ca/pubs/bio_e.asp
kingstonlad, tony, Free, and Don. (If I have missed anyone formerly in the Service, my apologies) Although I can’t speak for the rest of the people I have enjoyed having dialogue with on sda,( and I bet the majority of them agree with me), we all owe you guys a debt of gratitude for your service and unselfish commitment to Canada you certainly have my respect and admiration. Thanks for your insight.
God Bless!
Jim in Calgary
Aaron:
The legislation that you are referring to is an extension of the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) Act that was enacted in 1991, under the Mulrooney government. I know that because I helped to write it and shepherded it through the legislative process. The amendedments that came in a few years ago had wide support among all parties. If you had comprehensive knowledge of how wide-spread the money laundering problem was (and is) in Canada and the protection (for privacy of innocent people) in the current laws, I truly believe you would not have posted as you did.
I probably view things from a bit different perspective. No idea what your background as ‘helper to write’ that legislation was. I was intimately involved in actual enforcement of AML with its recent post-911 changes. It is absolutely clear that there are absolutely no safeguards for privacy of innocent people as you call it. In democratic society police must apply for a search warrant before it can seize the financial information of a person – under the AML your bank will pass information to the task force as soon as their automated system will select your name based on the criteria, defined by the task force and the bank’s computer programmer’s understanding of the AML requirements.
Speaking of ‘washed’ money, Bruce, I hear a lot of squawking about the new legislation regarding not refunding GST to foreign visitors. Probably billions were washed through the border as multi family groups with duel passports bought cars, boats, airplanes, gold…What a whopping big loophole that was – Mo money for the Mole Mo tse strong.
I agree with the above poster that Codare is better off staying away from ‘scary’ soldiers . He should stay with the cowardly terrorists and over 60 women. The soldiers would feel ill for days after a visit from that kind of filth – at this point, I think he should just stay away as a apology would be meaningless and revolting. He should not be in parliament but since he is he should be given no job and no pay.
Dion…..oh my goodness
Gotta say Staphane has definitely done this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpraJYnbVtE
what a joke
The fact that Coderre is defence critic shows the Liberal attitudes towards the military. Jack Granatstein, in his book, “Who Killed the Canadian Military?” says we all did it. Yes, mistakes were made by Diefenbaker, but let’s face it, Trudeau civilianized the military chain of command, bought us obsolete equipment and cared more for votes than capability. Chretien cancelled the EH-101 contract, bought the civilian variant, the Cormorant, for search and rescue (unbelievable, ever wonder why they have rust problems right now?), took a $20,000 utility vehicle, let Bombardier assemble it at five times the cost of the actual vehicle, shut down two military colleges without consulting anyone and relying of dated figures, and … well, you get the picture. Good to see soldiers like Hillier being blunt – we need more of that rather than yes men.
Aaron:
Since the judgment in the Tournier case in 1924, banks and other financial institutions have been able to trump their “privacy” contract with customers and disclose information about suspicious activities to the authorities. The specific instances that allowed banks to disclose otherwise private information were set out in the judgment as follows:
Where the bank is compelled by law to disclose the information
If the bank has a public duty to disclose the information
If the bank’s own interests require disclosure; and
Where the customer has agreed to the information being disclosed.
Since the 1970s, it was commmonly held that a bank disclosing information concerning transactions that were suspected to involve money laundering was in accordance with two of those four, the bank’s own interest and the public interest.
The need for the 1991 law was due to the less than level playing field in the financial industry. The big banks in Canada routinely disclosed suspicious activity to the RCMP. Smaller institutions, especially the Schedule ‘B” banks, rarely did. That led to some bizarre inequalities, for example: a branch of Credit Suisse in Vancouver was quite prepared to accept 16 banker boxes containing US $7 million from a “new” customer, and were only forced to decline the deposit when their corrrespondent bank (one of the big five) declined to accept the cash without information as to its origins (it was in fact drug money). Another “B” bank in Montreal was routinely accepting hockey bags full of cash from the Montreal mob…they accepted $44 million in deposits over the course of a year.
All of the “suspicious reporting” provisions were enacted in 1991. What changed with the amendments under the Liberals was the creation of FINTRAC and bringing in a requirement for mandatory reporting of cash and certain other transaction over the $10,000 limit, and including terrorism within the ambit of the reporting law.
Banks are still permitted to disclose information directly to the RCMP and many still do. FINTRAC can release information to the police, without warrant, if the police can demonstrate to FINTRAC that the person involved is involved in criminal activity or terrorism.
I have no fondness for the Liberal party, but if your objection is about the “erosion of privacy” issue, you are barking up the wrong tree in this case…
“…No idea what your background as ‘helper to write’ that legislation was…”
I was the Officer in Charge of the RCMP Proceeds of Crime program…
tomax7 has the right idea – definitely Hogan’s Heroes. The trouble is, too many people are going after the role of Sergeant Schultz. Who would you say is Colonal Klink?
Susan Delacourt’s comments, while on with Don Newman today, on the media panel discussion regarding General Hillier’s recent comments:
” …I don’t want to go too far on this, for fear of walking out of here, but I do think that we have a disturbing thing going on here, or it feels like we do, with the RCMP. Whether it’s…it’s people who carry guns getting political and sidling up to the government.
I think it makes everyone a little bit nervous.
It makes me nervous…”
So, there we have it coming back…’people with guns in the street’….
Delacourt should be ashamed of herself for making that implication. That woman is implying that Conservative minded people are running around with guns and might shoot people of Liberal bent like her and her ilk. She owes an apology and it should be demanded TODAY. That is outrageous to say the least.
Question is who is going to demand the apology?
Certainly not her employer.
She’s doing worst than that. Her comment about “sidling up” suggests that the military should remain at arms length from the control of a civilian government.