At first glance I thought the sign read “…love the bananas”.
Liberal policy: “Bonana fanna fo: bonana fanna fo..”
Mark
Ottawa
Martin & CSL ships are screwing Canadian taxpayers out of 18 x $700,000/year = $12,600,000/year by using Flags-of-Convenience (FOC).
Martin says he “loves Canada”. >>>
The PM’s been asked again and again about how he runs his shipping firm. Why does he keep mangling the sad facts?
By Murray Dobbin
Published: December 29, 2004
TheTyee.ca
Does Paul Martin have a pathological aversion to telling the truth? When it comes to his shipping company it seems Mr. Martin believes he can simply deny the facts and continually get away with it. And so long as reporters asking the questions haven’t done their homework, he is probably right.
In an interview with the new prime minister on December 19th, Mary-Lou Findlay, host of As it Happens, asked Mr Martin about his image problem with Canada Steamship Lines, specifically CSL’s foreign flagged ships. Called flag-of-convenience ships (FOCs) they allowed Mr. Martin (and now allow his sons) to pay a quarter of the Canadian wage rate, avoid paying taxes altogether, and to ignore Canadian labour standards, health and safety laws and environmental regulations. Experts in the field estimate that each ocean-going ships saves on average $700,000 a year from this unethical practice.
Sweatships? Who me?
Mr. Martin’s response was the same as it has been over the years when challenged on his part in this rogue industry: deny, deny deny. He told As It Happens “Five hundred of [CSL’S] over 600 employees are Canadian. The vast majority – the overwhelming majority – of its ships fly the Canadian flag.”
Yet this flies in the face of numerous investigative pieces done on CSL – including a meticulously researched investigation by the CBC television program Disclosure. In a one hour documentary on CSL last spring, Disclosure revealed “Today, Paul Martin’s family business has expanded into a global empire. In Canada, CSL owns eighteen ships which fly our flag. It employs 500 Canadians, and pays Canadian taxes. CSL also owns, in whole or in part, eighteen foreign flagged ships, sailing around the world, from Montreal to Melbourne.”
In other words, half of CSL’s ships are FOC ships and half are Canadian-flagged. How does 50 percent become an “overwhelming majority?” Easy. Mr. Martin simply refers to CSL Inc, based in Montreal, and tosses in the ships owned by CSL Asia. He neglects to add in the ships owned by CSL International, based in the United States, and conveniently leaves out all those ships that CSL co-owns with other international shipping companies and those that it leases and reflags as FOCs. >>> more http://www.thetyee.ca/Views/2004/12/29/Martins_Pants_Appear_on_Fire/
BTW, the illustration of Martin at thetyee is great for posting… check it out ( the long bony fingers are telling).
Good sign, good point.
Isn’t it interesting how, so far, the MSM has been so soft on Martin?
The are still pursuing Harper on the “organized crime” comment, asking him for a retraction and asking if he will apologize as well.
Hmmm. Seems eerily familiar to the MSM at the tail end of the last election, asking, rhetorically, if Harper was going to apologize for the “child porn” comment (ironically, Martin claims that all the good things he has proposed – tax cuts, increases in pensions, etc. – were killed because the opposition triggered an election whereas Martin called last year’s election, killing the bill related to strengthening child porn laws, thus making Harper’s claim correct).
Why hasn’t the MSN asked Martin for a retraction and apology for the “neo con” term?
After all, the term has to be viewed in the context in which the Liberals want it to be received by Canadians – that being that Harper and the Conservatives are extremists.
The Liberals, let’s not forget, have referred to the Conservatives as “facists” and “holocuast deniers” as well. And coupled with the term “neo con,” it’s clear what image Martin and the Liberals are trying to portray, especially when immigration has been raised, most notably by Liberal Immigration minister Joe Volpe.
I guess the MSM sees no need to ask Martin for a retraction and apology since they are in full agreement with him.
True to the form of double standard Liberals (and Democrats in the US) notorious for “don’t do as I do, do as I say” in a pious tone. Let’s hope that Klein doesn’t slip on a banana or Joe Who emerge from the tombs and utter a profound word of wisdom. Yeah the Liberals suck, especially Paul Martin and co.
True to the form of double standard Liberals (and Democrats in the US) notorious for “don’t do as I do, do as I say” in a pious tone. Let’s hope that Klein doesn’t slip on a banana or Joe Who emerge from the tombs and utter a profound word of wisdom. Yeah the Liberals suck, especially Paul Martin and co.
Love the sign generator….the sign I made said:
Vote-a for me
or shutta you mouth!
– The Libranos
I believe Martin’s ships are registered with Barbados, not Bahamas. Am I wrong? Barbados is the tax haven for profitable made-in-Canada companies.
Team Martin:
We almost had
Gurmant Grewal.
I seriously think the Tories need to send Ralph, Joe C., and any other likely suspects on a two-month fact-finding mission, on the serious issues of bikini strain and suntan oiling at resorts in Tahiti, Fiji, Java, etc. Would be the best possible use of their warchest. Seriously.
We can bitch and complain all we want but Harper asked for this one. Why didn’t he just say “yes!”
he better not screw it up this time. It’s the first day of the election campaign and he already gaffed.
I was torn between “I Love Canada – it’s like taking candy from a baby” and “I Love Canada – it’s such easy pickings”. The latter won out.
This sign gizmo is great fun Kate. Thanks for the toy.
bahamas… barbados?
Is there a difference?
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Use Kate’s sign generator found here
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jake: you don’t think the Liberal response is a far more serious gaff?
In an email message sent to certain journalists, the Liberal campaign said, “He doesn’t love this country.” http://tinyurl.com/bot8d
Let’s not bitch about belly button lint when they’re an elephant in the room. Handlers can worry about the lint. We need to focus on the elephant, rather than obsessing about this-is-HOW-i-love answers to rhetorical questions.
I think Canadians have “battered voters syndrome”.
We’re lied to and cheated on, but continually told to be afraid if we “leave him” bad things will happen to us, and that only he really loves us, no one else can. What do we do? We stay with him. Out of fear. Fear that has been planted in us by the Liberals and their media friends.
Repeat the MSM message, Stephen is scary.
The only scary thing to the Liberals is the thought of potentially losing power and all the levers to churn out money at the Mint. And the Liberals certainly don’t want to leave all the “comfy fur” behind; which they’ll need for their winter campaign.
But of course, Stephen Harper doesn’t love Canada. A 50 cent media drive by shooting.
Do you love Canada? Like Stephen was going to answer no, dduuhh.
What an assinine question. This is pure baiting, hoping that the “angry dog” will bite.
“No, I don’t love my country; I’m a treasonous bastard intent on foundering the nation on yonder shoals.” Puhleease!
This is the media version of 50 cent’s drive by shooting.
Stephen: “I will answer in the negative, and thereby commit political hari kari for the entire nation to see.”
Just my 2 bits.
Ok move on, he could have answered better. Day 1 of a 55 day campaign. He can express his love again and again.
However, I dont know if Martin can get away with this over 55 days of I love canada…my apologies Chretien did it for 12 years….hmm maybe the cpc is in trouble…..
Harper should have just said, “What kind of question is that?” He was screwed either way. Who was the reporter who asked the stupid question anyway? Sounds like a CBC thing to do. They’re already running scared that the Conservatives might come in and cut back their left-winged gravy train.
sounded like CBC’c Jason Moscovitz doing the Liberal bidding with that question . .
I suffered through 10 minutes of Rick Mercer last night. He was in Fort McMurray, AB checking out the boom and big bucks. He mused that perhaps he should join his fellow Newfies and seek employment there, because after all, Stephen Harper may be elected in a few weeks time and shut down the CBC.
Talk about a “National Dream”!
Belinda Stronach, aka BS, boasting about her “love for Canada”. The bs from BS is not selling; BS sold out her “love of Canada”, sold out her former workers, sold out Young & others. Down with BS.
The pathology of a Librano$ for all to see/hear.>>>
Belinda has lots of nerve
By MATT CARTER, TORONTO SUN
Last May, Belinda Stronach crossed the floor and now she wants her former campaign team to follow.
………………..
Stronach said she understands that Young and other members of her former team feel betrayed.
“I’m very sensitive to that. But I always said I would speak out for the interests of Newmarket-Aurora, and I’ve done that,” she said yesterday.
“I’d say we have a stronger team even than last year. We’ve been able to combine the best of the Liberal team with the more progressive of the Conservatives.” >>>
via cnews
All you guys complaining about the media asking that question, grow up.
The question is:
1) Fair game for anybody who wants to be Prime Minister of Canada, and
2) a softball. It’s a wide open question that gave Harper the opportunity to show a bit of passion. It was an easy question. If you don’t have a decent answer for it, there is no one to blame but yourself.
Spinks he could/should have said “You don’t see me moving corporate assets offshore to Liberia, the USA and Carribean, Or closing the Collingwood ship yards or getting ships built in China after the Canadian taxpayers gave me 161 million dollars that parliament was told was 137,000, or replacing my Canadian workers with foreign sweat ships.” [I like sweatships maz2]
“In fact all my assets are Canadian and I aim to keep it that way, because I put my money where my mouth is, unlike that other SOB, who would sell out any Canadian if it would earn him a quarter.”
Steve needs to turn a question like that around and use it as free ammo, let them ask. Dare them to! And above all make them scared too for like Sauron let it reveal the hollow evil shell that should be returned to the abyss that is the liberal party.
DrWright, Harper will always take the higher ground. He did it again yesterday when he said that he believes the Liberals love Canada, but they love power more. He keeps hoping that eventually, Martin will show some decency. But the cynics/realists among us know it’s not going to happen anytime soon. This guy doesn’t have a decency gene. Harper should start carrying a pitbull around with him as a mascot. It might inspire him. Turning the other cheek is admirable, and is realistic when dealing with the NDP or Bloc, but not the Liberals.
Iron Lady, if the Libs love Canada, I’d hate to see what they’d do the country if they hated it.
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Where’s a good terrorist when you need one!
Would someone please drive a bus load of explosives into Liberal party headquarters..!!
B Wylie, are you a liberal plant trying to make conservatives look bad?
john g: the question isn’t the issue, the answer isn’t the issue. anyone can give whatever style points they want to it.
the issue is the liberals sending harper hates canada emails to reporter and reporters not reporting this which frankly is way more than a gaffe.
BREAKING….IMMIGRANTS DIG HARPER, CPC…MUST CREDIT GLOBE AND MAIL!!!…DEVELOPING….
“But Conservative support among visible minorities — who traditionally have overwhelmingly favoured the Liberals — hovered just under 30 per cent, within striking distance of the Liberals’ 38 per cent.
Moreover, Tory support from minorities is in line with the party’s support from the broader population, suggesting the Liberal advantage in this area may be overblown.
“Clearly the Liberals are still doing better among visible minorities, but the real surprise is how well the Conservatives are doing,” said Tim Woolstencroft, a managing partner with Strategic Counsel.
“They have been reaching out . . . and it looks like they’ve had some traction.”
In 2004, Paul Martin’s Liberals ran on a platform that equated same-sex marriage and gay rights with minority rights generally, and argued that all are protected under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Justice Minister Irwin Cotler made the Charter the centrepiece of his defence of the bill that legalized same-sex marriage in Canada.
Nevertheless, there was strong opposition to the law among some immigrant constituencies, most notably the Indo-Canadian and Chinese Canadian communities, where more traditional moral values predominate.
That could be one factor in the Tories’ relative strength in these communities heading into this election, Mr. Woolstencroft said. “It could be that some of these communities are a little more Conservative on both economic and social issues.”
Steven Harper is being persuaded to love canada at .. he might come around … who knows. Check it out for a laugh then get right back here to the issues. Duke’s Place
This guy just can’t get into a groove … I tell ya he needs a happy pill.
Anonalogue: great link that numbers are interesting. the conservative numbers are very evenly distributed:
general population: 29
immigrants: 29
visible minorities: 27
Outside of Quebec where immigrants and visible minorities shun the bq for the liberals, the long time liberal advantage has vanished.
Kudos to the globe for following up on this stat from their poll.
Whats next? An article digging into their front page graphic from the same poll:
liberals have a hidden agenda 33
conservatives have a hidden agenda 25
As I said elsewhere, the first person who gets a chance needs to ask Paul Martin if he loves Christmas and see if he says Christmas or the favourite Liberal word “holiday”.
the Lieberals and Team Martin are the “scariest” thing voters have had to face in the last 20 years. Stephen Harper doesn’t even come close.
The only “Hidden Agenda” we have to fear is the one going on right now behind our backs and ticking like a time bomb: And can be found not only in “adscam” but HRDC, Indian Affairs, Gun Registry and every nook and cranny we have yet to look!
ho hum, you are preaching to the converted here
get the word out that we are fighting the good fight
team martin
How much can i get
saddam
to give for my re-election?
At first glance I thought the sign read “…love the bananas”.
Liberal policy: “Bonana fanna fo: bonana fanna fo..”
Mark
Ottawa
Martin & CSL ships are screwing Canadian taxpayers out of 18 x $700,000/year = $12,600,000/year by using Flags-of-Convenience (FOC).
Martin says he “loves Canada”. >>>
The PM’s been asked again and again about how he runs his shipping firm. Why does he keep mangling the sad facts?
By Murray Dobbin
Published: December 29, 2004
TheTyee.ca
Does Paul Martin have a pathological aversion to telling the truth? When it comes to his shipping company it seems Mr. Martin believes he can simply deny the facts and continually get away with it. And so long as reporters asking the questions haven’t done their homework, he is probably right.
In an interview with the new prime minister on December 19th, Mary-Lou Findlay, host of As it Happens, asked Mr Martin about his image problem with Canada Steamship Lines, specifically CSL’s foreign flagged ships. Called flag-of-convenience ships (FOCs) they allowed Mr. Martin (and now allow his sons) to pay a quarter of the Canadian wage rate, avoid paying taxes altogether, and to ignore Canadian labour standards, health and safety laws and environmental regulations. Experts in the field estimate that each ocean-going ships saves on average $700,000 a year from this unethical practice.
Sweatships? Who me?
Mr. Martin’s response was the same as it has been over the years when challenged on his part in this rogue industry: deny, deny deny. He told As It Happens “Five hundred of [CSL’S] over 600 employees are Canadian. The vast majority – the overwhelming majority – of its ships fly the Canadian flag.”
Yet this flies in the face of numerous investigative pieces done on CSL – including a meticulously researched investigation by the CBC television program Disclosure. In a one hour documentary on CSL last spring, Disclosure revealed “Today, Paul Martin’s family business has expanded into a global empire. In Canada, CSL owns eighteen ships which fly our flag. It employs 500 Canadians, and pays Canadian taxes. CSL also owns, in whole or in part, eighteen foreign flagged ships, sailing around the world, from Montreal to Melbourne.”
In other words, half of CSL’s ships are FOC ships and half are Canadian-flagged. How does 50 percent become an “overwhelming majority?” Easy. Mr. Martin simply refers to CSL Inc, based in Montreal, and tosses in the ships owned by CSL Asia. He neglects to add in the ships owned by CSL International, based in the United States, and conveniently leaves out all those ships that CSL co-owns with other international shipping companies and those that it leases and reflags as FOCs. >>> more
http://www.thetyee.ca/Views/2004/12/29/Martins_Pants_Appear_on_Fire/
BTW, the illustration of Martin at thetyee is great for posting… check it out ( the long bony fingers are telling).
Good sign, good point.
Isn’t it interesting how, so far, the MSM has been so soft on Martin?
The are still pursuing Harper on the “organized crime” comment, asking him for a retraction and asking if he will apologize as well.
Hmmm. Seems eerily familiar to the MSM at the tail end of the last election, asking, rhetorically, if Harper was going to apologize for the “child porn” comment (ironically, Martin claims that all the good things he has proposed – tax cuts, increases in pensions, etc. – were killed because the opposition triggered an election whereas Martin called last year’s election, killing the bill related to strengthening child porn laws, thus making Harper’s claim correct).
Why hasn’t the MSN asked Martin for a retraction and apology for the “neo con” term?
After all, the term has to be viewed in the context in which the Liberals want it to be received by Canadians – that being that Harper and the Conservatives are extremists.
The Liberals, let’s not forget, have referred to the Conservatives as “facists” and “holocuast deniers” as well. And coupled with the term “neo con,” it’s clear what image Martin and the Liberals are trying to portray, especially when immigration has been raised, most notably by Liberal Immigration minister Joe Volpe.
I guess the MSM sees no need to ask Martin for a retraction and apology since they are in full agreement with him.
True to the form of double standard Liberals (and Democrats in the US) notorious for “don’t do as I do, do as I say” in a pious tone. Let’s hope that Klein doesn’t slip on a banana or Joe Who emerge from the tombs and utter a profound word of wisdom. Yeah the Liberals suck, especially Paul Martin and co.
True to the form of double standard Liberals (and Democrats in the US) notorious for “don’t do as I do, do as I say” in a pious tone. Let’s hope that Klein doesn’t slip on a banana or Joe Who emerge from the tombs and utter a profound word of wisdom. Yeah the Liberals suck, especially Paul Martin and co.
Love the sign generator….the sign I made said:
Vote-a for me
or shutta you mouth!
– The Libranos
I believe Martin’s ships are registered with Barbados, not Bahamas. Am I wrong? Barbados is the tax haven for profitable made-in-Canada companies.
Team Martin:
We almost had
Gurmant Grewal.
I seriously think the Tories need to send Ralph, Joe C., and any other likely suspects on a two-month fact-finding mission, on the serious issues of bikini strain and suntan oiling at resorts in Tahiti, Fiji, Java, etc. Would be the best possible use of their warchest. Seriously.
We can bitch and complain all we want but Harper asked for this one. Why didn’t he just say “yes!”
he better not screw it up this time. It’s the first day of the election campaign and he already gaffed.
I was torn between “I Love Canada – it’s like taking candy from a baby” and “I Love Canada – it’s such easy pickings”. The latter won out.
This sign gizmo is great fun Kate. Thanks for the toy.
bahamas… barbados?
Is there a difference?
Team Martin Campaign Sign Contest
Details of the contest are available here.
While the prize can only be awarded to WCE forum members, anyone is welcome, nay encouraged, to enter.
Use Kate’s sign generator found here
…
jake: you don’t think the Liberal response is a far more serious gaff?
In an email message sent to certain journalists, the Liberal campaign said, “He doesn’t love this country.”
http://tinyurl.com/bot8d
Let’s not bitch about belly button lint when they’re an elephant in the room. Handlers can worry about the lint. We need to focus on the elephant, rather than obsessing about this-is-HOW-i-love answers to rhetorical questions.
I think Canadians have “battered voters syndrome”.
We’re lied to and cheated on, but continually told to be afraid if we “leave him” bad things will happen to us, and that only he really loves us, no one else can. What do we do? We stay with him. Out of fear. Fear that has been planted in us by the Liberals and their media friends.
Repeat the MSM message, Stephen is scary.
The only scary thing to the Liberals is the thought of potentially losing power and all the levers to churn out money at the Mint. And the Liberals certainly don’t want to leave all the “comfy fur” behind; which they’ll need for their winter campaign.
But of course, Stephen Harper doesn’t love Canada. A 50 cent media drive by shooting.
Do you love Canada? Like Stephen was going to answer no, dduuhh.
What an assinine question. This is pure baiting, hoping that the “angry dog” will bite.
“No, I don’t love my country; I’m a treasonous bastard intent on foundering the nation on yonder shoals.” Puhleease!
This is the media version of 50 cent’s drive by shooting.
Stephen: “I will answer in the negative, and thereby commit political hari kari for the entire nation to see.”
Just my 2 bits.
Ok move on, he could have answered better. Day 1 of a 55 day campaign. He can express his love again and again.
However, I dont know if Martin can get away with this over 55 days of I love canada…my apologies Chretien did it for 12 years….hmm maybe the cpc is in trouble…..
Harper should have just said, “What kind of question is that?” He was screwed either way. Who was the reporter who asked the stupid question anyway? Sounds like a CBC thing to do. They’re already running scared that the Conservatives might come in and cut back their left-winged gravy train.
sounded like CBC’c Jason Moscovitz doing the Liberal bidding with that question . .
I suffered through 10 minutes of Rick Mercer last night. He was in Fort McMurray, AB checking out the boom and big bucks. He mused that perhaps he should join his fellow Newfies and seek employment there, because after all, Stephen Harper may be elected in a few weeks time and shut down the CBC.
Talk about a “National Dream”!
Belinda Stronach, aka BS, boasting about her “love for Canada”. The bs from BS is not selling; BS sold out her “love of Canada”, sold out her former workers, sold out Young & others. Down with BS.
The pathology of a Librano$ for all to see/hear.>>>
Belinda has lots of nerve
By MATT CARTER, TORONTO SUN
Last May, Belinda Stronach crossed the floor and now she wants her former campaign team to follow.
………………..
Stronach said she understands that Young and other members of her former team feel betrayed.
“I’m very sensitive to that. But I always said I would speak out for the interests of Newmarket-Aurora, and I’ve done that,” she said yesterday.
“I’d say we have a stronger team even than last year. We’ve been able to combine the best of the Liberal team with the more progressive of the Conservatives.” >>>
via cnews
All you guys complaining about the media asking that question, grow up.
The question is:
1) Fair game for anybody who wants to be Prime Minister of Canada, and
2) a softball. It’s a wide open question that gave Harper the opportunity to show a bit of passion. It was an easy question. If you don’t have a decent answer for it, there is no one to blame but yourself.
Spinks he could/should have said “You don’t see me moving corporate assets offshore to Liberia, the USA and Carribean, Or closing the Collingwood ship yards or getting ships built in China after the Canadian taxpayers gave me 161 million dollars that parliament was told was 137,000, or replacing my Canadian workers with foreign sweat ships.” [I like sweatships maz2]
“In fact all my assets are Canadian and I aim to keep it that way, because I put my money where my mouth is, unlike that other SOB, who would sell out any Canadian if it would earn him a quarter.”
Steve needs to turn a question like that around and use it as free ammo, let them ask. Dare them to! And above all make them scared too for like Sauron let it reveal the hollow evil shell that should be returned to the abyss that is the liberal party.
DrWright, Harper will always take the higher ground. He did it again yesterday when he said that he believes the Liberals love Canada, but they love power more. He keeps hoping that eventually, Martin will show some decency. But the cynics/realists among us know it’s not going to happen anytime soon. This guy doesn’t have a decency gene. Harper should start carrying a pitbull around with him as a mascot. It might inspire him. Turning the other cheek is admirable, and is realistic when dealing with the NDP or Bloc, but not the Liberals.
Iron Lady, if the Libs love Canada, I’d hate to see what they’d do the country if they hated it.
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Paul Martin just released a speach…
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Where’s a good terrorist when you need one!
Would someone please drive a bus load of explosives into Liberal party headquarters..!!
B Wylie, are you a liberal plant trying to make conservatives look bad?
john g: the question isn’t the issue, the answer isn’t the issue. anyone can give whatever style points they want to it.
the issue is the liberals sending harper hates canada emails to reporter and reporters not reporting this which frankly is way more than a gaffe.
BREAKING….IMMIGRANTS DIG HARPER, CPC…MUST CREDIT GLOBE AND MAIL!!!…DEVELOPING….
“But Conservative support among visible minorities — who traditionally have overwhelmingly favoured the Liberals — hovered just under 30 per cent, within striking distance of the Liberals’ 38 per cent.
Moreover, Tory support from minorities is in line with the party’s support from the broader population, suggesting the Liberal advantage in this area may be overblown.
“Clearly the Liberals are still doing better among visible minorities, but the real surprise is how well the Conservatives are doing,” said Tim Woolstencroft, a managing partner with Strategic Counsel.
“They have been reaching out . . . and it looks like they’ve had some traction.”
In 2004, Paul Martin’s Liberals ran on a platform that equated same-sex marriage and gay rights with minority rights generally, and argued that all are protected under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Justice Minister Irwin Cotler made the Charter the centrepiece of his defence of the bill that legalized same-sex marriage in Canada.
Nevertheless, there was strong opposition to the law among some immigrant constituencies, most notably the Indo-Canadian and Chinese Canadian communities, where more traditional moral values predominate.
That could be one factor in the Tories’ relative strength in these communities heading into this election, Mr. Woolstencroft said. “It could be that some of these communities are a little more Conservative on both economic and social issues.”
Steven Harper is being persuaded to love canada at .. he might come around … who knows. Check it out for a laugh then get right back here to the issues.
Duke’s Place
This guy just can’t get into a groove … I tell ya he needs a happy pill.
Anonalogue: great link that numbers are interesting. the conservative numbers are very evenly distributed:
general population: 29
immigrants: 29
visible minorities: 27
Outside of Quebec where immigrants and visible minorities shun the bq for the liberals, the long time liberal advantage has vanished.
Kudos to the globe for following up on this stat from their poll.
Whats next? An article digging into their front page graphic from the same poll:
liberals have a hidden agenda 33
conservatives have a hidden agenda 25
As I said elsewhere, the first person who gets a chance needs to ask Paul Martin if he loves Christmas and see if he says Christmas or the favourite Liberal word “holiday”.
the Lieberals and Team Martin are the “scariest” thing voters have had to face in the last 20 years. Stephen Harper doesn’t even come close.
The only “Hidden Agenda” we have to fear is the one going on right now behind our backs and ticking like a time bomb: And can be found not only in “adscam” but HRDC, Indian Affairs, Gun Registry and every nook and cranny we have yet to look!
ho hum, you are preaching to the converted here
get the word out that we are fighting the good fight
team martin
How much can i get
saddam
to give for my re-election?
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