Wuhan Flu: Misdirection

Anthony Fureya sequel to the piece that Patty Hajdu calls “dangerous” and Justin Trudeau labeled “misinformation”. Decide for yourself:

The other week, the province revealed that over three quarters of Albertans who had died were also grappling “with 3 or more conditions.” As of last update, only 11 persons — or 2.3% of total deaths in Alberta – had died with zero underlying conditions, or co-morbidities.
 
These conditions range from common ones such as diabetes and hypertension to severe ones including cancer, dementia and liver cirrhosis.
 
While other provinces do not report this level of detail, a recent StatsCan report revealed these numbers to be fairly consistent throughout the country.
 
Now, Alberta Health Services has also provided information about co-morbidities for each specific death announced.
 
On Wednesday, when nine new deaths were announced, the tally was as follows: Woman in her 90s, unknown; male 90s, unknown; female 50s, had co-morbidities; female 80s, had co-morbidities; female 90s, no co-morbidities; male 80s, unknown; male 80s, unknown; male 80s, had co-morbidities; male 70s, had co-morbidities. Only the last two individuals were not linked to an outbreak at a retirement or care facility.
 
The value of this sort of data lies in being able to better identify and protect the people most at risk of COVID-19 while also finding ways to ease the potentially damaging restrictions on low-risk people, medical experts have told the Sun.

If you’re starting to wonder if government fixation on travelers, schools, youth sports and small businesses aren’t partly an effort to redirect attention and shield themselves from blame for their own failures to protect those in long term care, well — you’re not alone.

(I botched up the coding on this post and didn’t notice for a few hours. Should be fixed now.)

71 Replies to “Wuhan Flu: Misdirection”

  1. If Trump is back in, don’t expect to see the vaccine for some time as Trudeau bought this cure from US companies and President Trump already had put a stop to PPE exports.
    How many Billions of Dollars has Trudeau shoved at these companies?
    And expect to be at the bottom of the export list.
    Another year or two to get the vaccines?

    The cities and towns are expecting to go back to the new normal and are already adding into the taxes for this Pandemic expenses.

    Now what will happen with our economy…a permanent lockdown?

    Only 165 healthy people across Canada have passed from this virus.

    1. A vaccine for this is likely to be as useful as a vaccine for the common cold. Don’t fret about a vaccine because it won’t prevent this non issue and it will only be used as another tool for the government to control people. We are better off without a vaccine.

    2. Just a correction there. Trump stopped the PPE because it was going into Quebec and then reappearing in New York at gouging prices. (Corruption in Quebec??? Shocking isn’t it.) Anyway Trump started letting PPE shipments back into Canada but only through Ottawa with promises from Trudeau it would stay in Canada. Manitoba had a huge order of PPE but that ended up going to Ottawa instead and Trudeau distributed it in the east taking tens of thousands from Manitoba and sending us a few hundred instead. So don’t blame Trump. Blame Trudeau. As for the vaccine it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if Trudeau has plans to sell the vaccine to other countries in the form of “aid” before Canadians get any.

  2. one of his conditions for release is that he’s not allowed to communicate on social media

    The answer’s quite simple. The greatest sin nowadays is to violate the so-called 11th Commandment: thou shalt not question. As I found out earlier this week, one is obligated to shut up and do as one’s told without hesitation and with great joy.

    1. It’s called “compliance”. My wife signed up for the Manitoba mental health thing and she kept asking questions and the counsellor finally told her the objective of the counselling is for her to shut and comply. She can think all she likes as long as she shuts up and complies. At that point she said of course she’s complying. She trusts government and government knows best and she dropped out.

      1. It is called fascism.
        Create an enemy.
        Push the fear.
        Promote the lie that guvament will take care of you.

        The frogs are sitting in the slowly heating water, oblivious to the danger.

    1. I’ve been following https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm since January. Around June the AHS changed how they tabulated the stats, less focus on deaths and even less info on what caused those deaths. You have to dig deeper to define who died, what age they were and no, there is no info on what other conditions they were subjected to at the time.
      Bunch of GD’med bullshit artists. The one thing all these “governments” didn’t do was “never let a crisis go to waste”.

      “EMERGENCY: Alberta has declared a Public Health Emergency to protect the health care system from COVID-19. Indoor social gatherings are the top source of transmission. All indoor social gatherings have now been banned. This ban will be enforced with $1,000 fines. Learn more”

      What a money maker, eh?

    2. We (old) Baby Boomers are in charge. Hence the shutdown of the entire country to “protect” we oldsters from all those young people who could infect us. Of course, a targeted approach which isolated and protected ONLY older people would be a more scientific,data-driven, option … but “science” and “data” are just words to be used as invectives against all the non-conformists … Right?

      If we are so willing to destroy our economies to “save ourselves” from such a remote threat … what will we do when a REAL … SERIOUS … biological or “climate” threat occurs? Concentration Camps? You bet! Now … ANYTHING can and will be done in the name of “existential medical threat”

      1. I tend to agree< Kenji, and Alberta's numbers tend to mirror the country as a whole. What I see from the numbers especially when the average age of those dying from this thing is 82, is that a far more targeted approach to isolation and protection is appropriate. The folks at the Children's Hospital are pointing out that, with a few especially high risk exceptions, the kids are virtually untouched by this thing and as the Swedish data have shown, so are those in close contact with them, with the exception of the very vulnerable (i.e. elderly or those with significant comorbidities). Until the vaccine is available, the high risk groups will have to self-isolate regardless of what the remainder of the population does and provided the remainder of the population takes reasonable precautions i.e. wearing a mask in public, limiting the size of gatherings and social distancing in public in order to "flatten the curve" with respect to the moderate risk populations, I can see no reason to justify full-on lockdowns or the complete closing of small businesses in the name of this thing.

        1. So DrD…are you speaking out publicly?
          I appreciate your comments here (and Loki), but we need more docs to speak up and tell politicians to back off.

          1. Well we certainly do at the ground level in our business meetings and at the AMA forums and on social media when anyone will listen. I’m going to try to get a meeting with my MLA.

  3. It would be also good to know where the quick 500,000,000,000 dollars (this is FIVE HUNDRED BILLION) borrowed for the occasion actually went.

  4. Pffft. Canadians don’t want the truth. If they did, Trudeau and Hajdu wouldn’t have been elected.
    A land of lemmings scampering towards a cliff.

    1. Actually I am wondering if someone from Dominion tabulated our paper ballot results. Maybe Canadians aren’t that stupid.

  5. Of the two Liberal MPs in Thunder Bay, Patty Hairdo is the one that is NOT a medical doctor. Her qualifications being her gender, she has no oath to protect other than whatever fealty she swore to the Twit in charge.

  6. I have been SCREAMING for our government bureaucrats and their media lapdogs to publish the GRANULAR data that Dr. Birx promised way back in March. The science and data were promised to be “transparent” … and they’ve been anything BUT.
    We get “totals” … we don’t get DATA.
    We get “rates” … we don’t get DATA.
    We get “politics” … we don’t get SCIENCE.
    We get “butt cover” … we don’t get SCIENCE

      1. They had it already. Herd immunity is raising it’s head. Notice the weasel word “cases”? RUN, HIDE, SET YOUR HAIR ON FIRE!!!!! We are never privy to the source of said infection, because then they’d have to actually do more than pass edicts and laws restricting you and not them. They are still collecting their paychecks, you aren’t. OBEY, RUN, HIDE, SET YOUR HAIR ON FIRE!!!!
        I bet they laugh collectively in groups greater than 10.

  7. In the last couple weeks CTV Edmonton reported 2 Covid deaths of claimed healthy individuals around 40 years of age. The Indian guy had diabetes as do virtually all Indians. The Chinese guy had no reported health problems. On slim evidence, I’m guessing they were both gay and may very well have had an unreported gay disease. A clubber and lover of the theatre?? Seriously??

    The reason almost all Indians get diabetes and whitey does not is that we culled the herd several thousand years ago when our diet switched from meat to grains.

      1. Like Russia collusion you hypocritical moron bigot.

        How do you live with yourself you going through life knowing you lack the intellectual vigour and capacity to add anything to any discussion requiring even the tiniest of analytical ability?

        I wouldn’t know, being unlike you a person who thinks things through and checks their confirmation bias at the door.

    1. Hi Scar – You appear to be interested in the incidence of diabetes as a co-morbidity for covid deaths. There is not much research yet on that relationship, but there is a lot on diabetes and diet. I would recommend Dr Jason Fung and Dr benjamin Bikman (lots of lecture on you tube) as good sources. Good reading.

  8. So….on this GENERAL Subject.

    Back in October, when it was revealed that the Govt of Canada was soliciting Quotes for Isolation Kampfs – (shout out to Mr Hillier- MLA Ontario), and finding the actual link for said RFQ, I decided to Ask our Premier in regards to said Kampfs, just what the FUCK was going on…?
    I have to date not received a reply….where normally one would actually get one.

    Last night a good friend in Central BC, sent me a screen shot of an ad on INDEED soliciting a Manager for Alberta’s Kampfs to be located in Fort McMurray and Fort Chipewyan.

    “…The Facility Managers role will assess, implement & evaluate the day to day overall operations of the Urban Isolation Facilities in Fort McMurray & Fort Chipewyan while working within the context of MEDIKA North Inc. (who the Fk is that.??), Policies & Procedures and adhering to and meeting the CLIENTS (and who would that be.??), overall goals of the facility. The Candidate will be in a collaborative relationship with Medika North’s “Interdisciplinary Team” and will ensure delivery of Resident centered care by demonstrating an or providing guidance on Clinical Health related care by assisting individual clients & their families to respond to changing health care needs during the COVID Panemic….”

    There’s more, but the screenshot didn’t take it all in….
    I will be asking Mr Premier once again: WTF is going on here and do you plan to have a welcome sign above the Kampf Entrance..???

    “Arbeit Macht Frie”….perhaps.??

    Someone tell me we aren’t in the midst of PM Dickspanks Great reset already….
    …they absolutely want us DEAD. Lots of room in the muskeg for a few million bodies eh..??

  9. “…the piece that Patty Hajdu calls “dangerous” and Justin Trudeau labeled “misinformation”.”

    Isn’t the correct response: Would the member care to step outside the House and repeat that statement?

  10. A ‘case’ is whatever Sask Health determines. Curious the daily covid cases remained low through most of 2020 until now just when it was starting to look like we could get on with living our lives.
    During the recent Sk Provincial election the wife asked one of the canvassers on the phone why Sask Health wasn’t on the ballot since they seem to be the ones running the province.

  11. The disease got worse when everyone was told to wear masks. The solution? Wear more masks. Before mask politics, we were told masks were counter productive. They may have been right. Things aren’t getting better.

  12. So until next fall we’ll be locked down while the US, Mexico and Europe are vaccinating everyone. We’re in for a terrible time folks. BC went from one of the best jurisdictions to the worst in the period of a month and it’s just starting. Vaccines are being distributed in the us and people will be jabbed next month. Most Canadians font get that yet but when they do…

      1. Because you’ll eventually be in an age category (if not there already) where it isn’t 99% or have a comorbidity and because being sick is lame and weird sequelae is worse.

        1. I prefer to ignore the UnOne…
          However, the only family that I know that has had Wuhan Flu is my 80 year old brother and his 78yr old wife. He had to miss one chemo treatment, was ill for about 10 days and both have recovered. You lose.

      2. So we can go back to normal. The ONLY way out of this is a vaccine which is why Trump launched operation warp speed while Canada launched operation hide out away from my wife and bungle around like an idiot. It’s time to boycott everything Toronto. Those bastards have killed thousands and by the time we’re through they’ll have destroyed our economy too. Stop letting them vote.

    1. How can you possibly get your conclusion from that article?

      “Wash your hands, [wear a mask when indoors with people not of your household,] take vitamin C, get out in the sun. Get back to work.”

      FIFY

      1. If your mask really works as you claim it does, then you shouldn’t be at all troubled my decision not to wear one.

        1. Teach, I said EXACTLY that to a Karen who went berserk because she had of pass by me < 2 meters away. Do you think your mask is effective? I asked. She said yes but it was for me. But if it its effective outgoing it should be effective incoming, I tried to point out. She went more berserk and hoped I, my wife and children got covid and all died.

          1. You made the mistake of using logic and reason to convince a virus sheeple. Doing so likely made her brain hurt, assuming she had one.

  13. Yes, if you are young and healthy your risk is low. The reason they keep these co-morbidities is to best know how to treat the people who arrive sick, not to inflate the numbers. You can live into your 90s with high blood pressure. Obesity might kill you tomorrow, but obese people can live for many decades, same with diabetes, etc.

    Facts are stubborn things, and one fact is that there are a lot of people worldwide dead far in excess of expected deaths. If you are going to quote that Johns Hopkins newsletter, I ask you why the whole world started “randomly varying” in the same direction in synch with the trends in testing. That article based on a webinar is so full of legerdemain that it’s worse than useless.

      1. Should I be concerned about COVID?

        Yes! It’s to be the sole reason for your existence, to live in constant fear of both the disease and the consequences of “disobedience”. I found out about that earlier this week.

        Sadly, the overwhelming majority of our fellow citizens do just that.

  14. Funny that,an informed citizen must chose their actions according to their need and live with the consequences..
    Except the informing we are getting contains little useful information..
    What I have gleaned from 9 months of hysterical outbursts from panicked parasites is probably not what they thought they were saying.
    Government= The Crisis.
    Without the hysteria,lockdowns and endless contradictory rules and knee-jerks,we,the public,would not even know that Covid was anything more than a bad flu season,in fact on the numbers Covid is less than a bad flu.
    Useless,clueless and aggressively stupid and dangerous..that is what I have observed.
    Fire them all.
    For “We are all in this together” Right?
    Not from what I have observed.

    Now if “Herd Immunity” had ever been a goal,then the spread of this “novel corona virus with a 98% survival rate, would have been encouraged during the summer,when natural immunity due to higher Vitamin A and D levels would help us.
    Instead now in “Flu Season” we are being bombarded with “more Cases”..
    Love the way increased testing calls for greater hysteria and panic,especially after the refusal to test asymptomatic persons for damn near all of these last 9 months..

    Oh well ,free advice is worth what you pay for it.
    Or so most would agree.
    So what is “Free healthcare” worth?

    Especially as we see these bloated parasites are more than happy to borrow billions to imprison us in our home,reward their special friends and give themselves a pay raise.but loath to spend a penny to have ICUs ready,make more available,or prep more healthcare staff,let alone protect the few we now have..

    Harken back to previous pandemics,real ones where the system crumbled in the face of sickness…we turned anything we could into emergency facilities and did what we had to do.
    Not happening this time..
    Nothing but bureaucratic fiat.
    Hence not an emergency..Fire them all.

  15. Canada has it’s own Homegrown Nazi Bastard’s and they are all in Government. The solution is the same as 1939.

  16. ‘But comorbidities!’ is not a meaningful point. Dead is dead. The retirement home stuff is more important-in Alberta. In other places, like the vast majority of America and even the Lower Mainland of BC, this is contained to the elderly. It’s pretty much everywhere.

  17. Is this the same as the bogus 6% CDC narrative where most other conditions listed in the death cert are cuased by Covid19?

    92% have it as the primary underlying cause.

    1. Why are you incapable of understanding: no co-morbidities = no death due to covid except for those who lose a coin toss because natural selection picked the edge of the coin.

      1. What you seem incapable of understanding is that lots and lots of people have comorbidities and you don’t get to just declare COVID is no problem because it’s only killing them.

  18. Prohibiting Adam from communication via social media as condition for bail thus letting MSM create the narrative around him, while denying him the right to defend himself… years ago Mark Steyn coined a perfect definition of dictatorship: “Arbitrary criminalization of dissent from state orthodoxy”. Exactly what we’re dealing with here. Revolting.

    1. I was more concerned that the COPS changed the locks on his business’ door, behind his back. What’s next, they change the locks on my house if I “step out of line”, say something “wrong think”?

      1. Well, they can already take your car or your guns or your dog or your child if they feel like it. Jackbooted thugs one and all.

  19. regarding mr skelly, I’m not allowed to report non-violent crimes.
    no difference anyways since I get laughed at blamed and ignored when I do.
    the result is when cops off themselves, (google police suicide)
    their buddies get a call telling them how funny the just deserts are.

  20. I was just looking at the file of a soldier who died from the Spanish Flu in 1918. What did they treat it with, you ask? Quinine. Not exactly Trump’s idea.

  21. I don’t know one person who doesn’t make exceptions for themselves when it comes to their circle or “bubble” of friends/family.
    Its human nature and tribal to be a hypocrite about the people you care about.
    And all those circles overlap like spirograph and no two are alike.
    Kevin Bacon knows.

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