34 Replies to “We Don’t Need No Flaming Sparky Cars”

  2. The idea of electric cars is poorly conceived. First you have to generate the electricity. Often this is done by coal-fired or natural gas-powered generators, which is not what the global warmies want. Then it has to be transmitted to wherever the car is being charged. This can only be done with a loss of power across the lines due to resistance. Then the cars’ batteries have to be charged. Further loss of power. If the car sits there undriven for any length of time, the batteries will lose power. More waste of energy.

    The only economical way to power vehicles is with gasoline or diesel fuel. There are not many ways to store electric power without loss. The only practical way is at hydroelectric facilities, and in water towers to a lesser extent.

  3. I am still laughing at the electric car nonsense. If Ontario had a 50 50 mix of electric and gas the grid would collapse because there is no way they could all be charged at once. Gas powered tow trucks would make millions towing vehicles with dead batteries.

    1. “..the Grid would collapse..”

      So lets Extrapolate – an EV parasdise across North America.
      ~ 450,000,000 EV’s. The Eco-Nazi WET DREAM.
      85% of which would likely need a nightly re-charge.

      & the Power comes from Where Exactly..??
      Can’t use Coal/Nat Gas now can we…
      99% of the Rivers are already Damned for Hydro – NO capacity there.
      Wind-Solar… Simply laughable
      ……SO, that my friends Leaves us with NUCLEAR

      Somehow I don’t see the likes of Gerald Butts, Tzeporah Bermann, Tom Steyer, David Suzuki, Mike Hudema, Michael Mann et all standing up and endorsing THAT particular method of elctrical Generation now would we..??

      EV’s = Pie in the Sky – Complete and utter BS.
      Aint ever gonna happen.

  4. We are going to have to start teaching the kids some math and science in public schools again. The only thing our government-run schools are teaching is virtue signalling. That is the best population control scheme our present system can muster- freezing entire populations in the dark. The wind doesn’t blow much when it is super cold outside – windmills no good. Solar is not going to work very well either – 8 hours of sunshine per day in December in Canada. When the only subjects you are competent in is White Male Patriarchy and CO2 is Bad, we will all die a bad death.

  5. The Volt is just another example of socialism-by-regulation: impose requirements for fuel economy, or any other BS leftist goal, rather than let them build what the public wants to buy, and you kill the industry. ( Not to say that the Oshawa closing wasn’t justified on economics, alone: government has added costs to the manufacturing sector in Canaduh for years. But it is too bad for GMs Oshawa workers that Unifor is so much a part of the leftist political establishment that they simply lie to their now unemployed members, rather than organizing them to fight the powers that are killing their chances to manufacture at competitive costs.)

    1. “impose requirements for fuel economy”

      And everyone buys a truck or van. Ford is quitting cars except for a couple models that sell really well. I live in an oilpatch town and yesterday looked at 3 blocks of parking in front of a school. 100% gas guzzlers. Fuel economy laws have made cars obsolete.

      1. I’m driving a sedan and have noticed the incredible number of pickups/SUVs/crossovers, but you may not be aware that those large vehicles don’t guzzle anywhere near the amount of gasoline that they used to. Large pickup trucks of 2018 burn no more gas than sedans of 2005. Of course sedans of 2018 burn even less, but the point here IMO is that gasoline engines haven’t stood still while electrics have been developed. And, they’re likely to improve some more in the near future.

  8. Justin Turdeau is plotting. I would not be surprised to see him announce that the Federal Government is buying the Oshawa plant from GM and also buying the design, dies and tooling of the Chevy Volt.
    Two new cars will be made at the Oshawa plant: the Volt will be rebranded as the Sophie (to appeal to female drivers). An all electric version will be called the Justin.

    Bombardier will be asked to run the plant. A new battery plant will be built by Bombardier in Quebec.

    To encourage Canadians to buy the new fuel efficient cars, all pickup trucks and SUVs will have a $2000 a year gas guzzler tax applied when you renew your vehicle licence. This will be announced after the next election. Money from this tax will be returned to Canadians who buy a Sophie or a Justin.

    If this does not increase demand for the Sophie and Justin cars, the liberals will sponsor the Antifa to start wrecking pickups and SUVs.

    Welcome to Turdeau and Butts brave new world.

    1. I wish you were joking. A Torstar business ‘journalist’ has already suggested the government take over all of GM Canada.

    2. The federalistas cannot run a payroll system properly, how are they going to run an auto plant?

  9. The funny thing is GM announced its plan to lay off 2,500 employees in Oshawa (and other layoffs in the US) in order to to focus more on autonomous and electric vehicles and reduce their carbon footprint. Then they axe the Chevy Volt…and their stock goes up.

    1. GM is setting up a competition – what city will get our electric car factory? Please give us low taxes, low electric costs, low union wages, and lots of government incentives.

      Break out the popcorn while you can afford it.

  10. A retired couple in our town north of Saskatoon have a electric/gas hybrid and their biggest complaint is that the batteries are constantly going dead.

    It is interesting that GM’s announcement mentioned them being able to focus more on modern technology. I read into the news release that that meant electric, but the demise of the Volt would suggest that their focus will not be on electric. ?????

    1. They couldn’t speak the truth: Build more SUVs and trucks, ie, vehicles that sell. Oshawa builds the Impala. They can’t really expect that people will buy autonomous cars in North America, not since one of them killed a woman in California. The Chinese however will love the idea of controlling where their subjects can and cannot go.

  11. Not the point. Electric/Google/NSA tracking pods are for masses. ( Elites and one perfect pre Harvard spawn get Lexus Lanes and turbo V6’s, or 8’s if light caliber armor is needed. )
    Proles will bear all costs. Control of masses isn’t cheap, you know.

  13. The Volt was GMs tithe to the greens to get the bailout. It was a dog from the outset.

    The closure of Oshawa and the other plants is mostly the story of the death of sedans in the marketplace. CUVs, SUVs and pickups are what the market wants.

    So be it.

    1. “The closure of Oshawa and the other plants is mostly the story of the death of sedans in the marketplace.”

      Not true Gord. You can make any vehicle in the Oshawa plant. GM probably thought its game plan up back in 2009. Wait for the economy to recover. Identify certain plants for permanent shut-down. Re-tool them for modest demand or low profit vehicles. Announce a cost-cutting (partially green) plan to shut the plants down.

      The Oshawa plant (as I have read) makes Silverados. They are in high demand. Why not increase their production in Oshawa?

    2. Let’s acknowledge that the Japanese and European automakers have defeated the NA auto industry at what they are best at, building higher quality, desirable smaller cars. The Big Three just didnt build better sedans, they just seem to be knockoffs of superior Japanese and Euro prdouct.
      The market gets more segmented. The BIg Three is focusing on trucks, SUVs, and their performance cars (Ford Mustang, example). The foreign companies make better cars, AND have the demand……hey, I wouldnt buy a BMW, knowing that their depreciation is horrific, but, there doesnt seem to be a lack of demand from a certain ethnic demographic or two, that has an obsession with buying new Bimmers.
      As far as EVs, they are still money losers, all of them, yes including Tesla, the biggest fraud yet to be put out of its misery. That hasnt stopped the brainiacs of the BC GreeNDP from decreeing sales quotas of EVs in the future, or ELSE!

    3. 0.002 of Americans would be interested in purchasing a Chevy Volt … about the same amount who went out and purchased a “smart” car.
      http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/10/2015/09/2013-smart-fortwo-passion-coupe-profile-view-14.jpg
      These are the people who HATE cars, and HATE driving … who are now trying to dictate the type of car we should all drive. They can all go fkcu themselves as far as I’m concerned.

      The “green” religion is a sickness. It is a charade. It is virtue signaling run amok.

  14. I realized long ago, that electric cars are in the same category as cold fusion, and flying cars.

    People the world over have been trying electric cars since the year EIGHTEEN THIRTY TWO; yes, 1832. The electric car has a 200 year history of not making it; yet like socialism, or cold fusion, or flying cars, the idea appears to have a cult that has grown up around it.

    Like socialism, there always seems to be an abundant crowd shouting “it just hasn’t been done correctly yet”, “true electric cars (socialism) have never been tried”, “electric cars are just around the corner”, “the battery breakthrough is just around the corner”

    Anyone who tells you anything different, is lying.

    Electric vehicles have some limited uses where they work very well. Forklifts for example; you don’t want to be burning fuel inside a warehouse, and the weight of a lead acid battery is ideal to counter the load ahead of the front axle. Golf carts, also an ideal application; nice and quiet, and they only drive around the course or the neighbourhood, and only for an hour or two at a time. Diesel electric trains; an engine swings a generator, and you have an electric (and only a SINGLE) drivetrain (not some over complicated 2 drivetrain system with extra complexity braking systems). I suppose gasoline/diesel electric autos must have been tried at some point, and found to be uneconomical.

    Have always laughed at the people who say “ICE is dead end technology, but batteries are not”. Never any point arguing with them, as it is a religious belief at this point. Batteries have been under continual development longer than electric or ICE motors. If the younger technology is dead end, then the older tech must be as well.

    The low hanging fruit on the battery tree has all been picked. All that is left are the expensive and unstable fruit. Any of you want a caesium ion battery in your laptop? I bet it has better properties than lithium ion.

    1. The Toyota Prius is a gasoline/electric hybrid, and has been since its inception. And for much the same reason that diesel-electric locomotives are hybrids, fuel economy gained by letting the combustion engine run at its most efficient speed, and not a speed dictated by the vehicle’s road speed.

      They seem to work well enough. Toyota has sold a lot of them, and nearly every taxicab I see is one, aside from the handicap-capable minivans. And they don’t need to plug into the grid. the gasoline engine is the prime mover.

    2. When Henry Ford was a young engineer at Detroit Edison, he met Thomas Edison, and told him of his experiments with IC engines. Thomas Edison, the electrical wizard of mento Park, encouraged him to continue his experiments because of the limited range of battery powered vehicles. The rest is history.

  15. BC just promised that by 2040 all new cars sold in BC will be electric. If they actually do it every border town in Alberta will have massive car lots.

    1. BINGO. Its just a fanatical dream by the commies in BC. Agreed, that this is a huge benefit to Alberta based Car dealerships.

      The ultimate goal of the green brigade in BC, is to kill the personal motor vehicle. Their goal is to force everyone onto a bicycle, bus or rapid transit, just like the good old Soviet Union did!

  16. yo mr oBOMBa, I’ll give ya a volt.
    I’ll give ya a couple thousand of them for, oh, say mebbe 1/2 a second.
    just stand riiiiiight there . . . .
    goddamn pompous effete worse-than-useless pryck.

  18. I once got into a raging debate on another Blog with an owner of a Chevy Volt. He was crowing about how his
    volt was getting 100 MPG in “combined fuel efficiency.” This poor unformed dolt insisted that he was reading his
    LCD monitor that measured instantaneous numbers that he obviously got while coasting downhill and not the
    actual overall “combined fuel efficiency.” The research I did shows that the Chevy Volt got the same 40 miles per
    charge as the 1905 British Roberts electric car. Even with regenerative braking and engine powered charging, the
    1.4 liter inline-4 was technically marginally more powerful than my old 1.3 liter 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk 3.

    Charging while driving comes at the cost of mechanical resistance much like the power robbing alternator on an
    internal combustion vehicle. The guy I was debating insisted that with careful driving, he was aiming for 200 miles
    of “combined fuel efficiency.” Watts are a measurement of instantaneous output or consumption. Watt hours are
    a measurement of output or consumption over time. 1 HP is the same as about 745 Watts. Every electromotive
    element has been known for more than 100 years, and battery power density is at the ragged edge. There will be
    no quantum leap in power density ever! Lithium-Ion batteries have a downside, it is flammable. Much like solar
    PV panels, they are government subsidized scams that will do nothing to “conserve” energy. Electrical energy cannot
    be conserved, it can only be converted. I learned this in my Jr Hi school electronics classes in the early 70s.

    Leave it to the left to come up with a concept that makes the perpetual motion machine look plausible!

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