They Told Me There Wouldn’t Be Any Math

A cost benefit analysis

The present assessment raises the question whether it would be necessary to rethink policies and use COVID-19 vaccines more sparingly and with some discretion only in those that are willing to accept the risk because they feel more at risk from the true infection than the mock infection. Perhaps it might be necessary to dampen the enthusiasm by sober facts? In our view, the EMA and national authorities should instigate a safety review into the safety database of COVID-19 vaccines and governments should carefully consider their policies in light of these data. Ideally, independent scientists should carry out thorough case reviews of the very severe cases, so that there can be evidence-based recommendations on who is likely to benefit from a SARS-CoV2 vaccination and who is in danger of suffering from side effects. Currently, our estimates show that we have to accept four fatal and 16 serious side effects per 100,000 vaccinations in order to save the lives of 2–11 individuals per 100,000 vaccinations, placing risks and benefits on the same order of magnitude.

Coles notes

 

37 Replies to “They Told Me There Wouldn’t Be Any Math”

  1. “This tallies well with a recently conducted analysis of the U.S. vaccine adverse reactions reporting system, which found 3.4 fatalities per 100,000 vaccinations, mostly with the Comirnaty (Pfizer) and Moderna vaccines [12].”

    VAERS does not establish causation. Its simply a reporting mechanism. Anyone can make a report, no medical knowledge required. There are also many duplicates.

    1. VAERS does not establish causation.

      Neither do the COVID death counts, you stupid dissembling cringing piece of shit.

      1. Bingo. The twat knows it and yet continues acting as if shark attack victims with Wuhan Flu died from Wuhan Flu.

      2. CDC provisional deaths certainly does. They pull data from death certificates, which have causation.

        1. alla unDork

          and the doctor who signed V Foster’s death certificate????????????????????????????

          Fuck off asshole, the village is looking for you

        2. Wrong as always. They are counting deaths with COVID as deaths from COVID, whether you want to admit it or not.

      1. It’s painfully obvious he already inhales more than his fair share of grass…

  2. “One might argue that it is always difficult to ascertain causality in such reports. This is certainly true; however, the Dutch data, especially the fatal cases, were certified by medical specialists (https://www.lareb.nl/media/eacjg2eq/beleidsplan-2015-2019.pdf (accessed on 29 May 2021)), page 13: “All reports received are checked for completeness and possible ambiguities. If necessary, additional information is requested from the reporting party and/or the treating doctor The report is entered into the database with all the necessary information. Side effects are coded according to the applicable (international) standards. Subsequently an individual assessment of the report is made. The reports are forwarded to the European database (Eudravigilance) and the database of the WHO Collaborating Centre for International Drug Monitoring in Uppsala. The registration holders are informed about the reports concerning their product.”).”

    Missing: causation.

    1. Old cut n’ paste Allan. Has no actual understanding of any of it, or any ability to reason if he did.

    2. The WHO has taken back recommending COVID vaccines for those under 18. Tell us why, grovelling lickspittle.

    3. Hey dipshit, can you tell us again how it is optimal to wait three to four months between Wuhan Flu vaccine doses?

    4. alla unDORK

      the DUTCH, those nice people who were the most prolific at sending their Jewish citizens for cattle car rides, Never trust the DUTCH. And I am from there you asshole.

      1. But that logic since you’re Dutch, all Dutch people must have low IQ, that is not how it works shortbus.

    5. oh alla unDORK, did you not post in here that HCQ was not effective to help stop/ cure covid-19? You were wrong on that big time, now fuck off

  3. “For three deaths prevented by vaccination we have to accept two inflicted by vaccination. Conclusions: This lack of clear benefit should cause governments to rethink their vaccination policy.”

    Stop the insanity. No argument can be made to continue with vaccinations against this virus from China. None. Average age of death is above the average lifespan. This is disgusting.

    1. YES, Philanthropist, this is why I refuse to bet bogged down trying to grok all the technical detail.

      They changed the definition of pandemic to qualify C-19 as one.
      You are right. No vaccine should have been needed. It doesn’t even prevent transmission. Duh!?

  4. Those are the numbers as they stand right now.
    What will they be 6 months from now? One year from now? Two years from now?
    The number needed to harm can only go in one direction: Down.

    1. It took a while before the negatives of Thalidomide for treatment of morning sickness became apparent. 150,000 heart defects estimated in 15-30 year old males, caused by the spiky protein, produced within the body by the “vaccines”.

      I’ll keep the old definition of vaccine, thank you very much. And keep my kids away from this experimental gene therapy.

    1. I do not know how the medical establishment can justify shutting down legitimate concerns regarding the vaccines.

      January 28, 1986: Mission 51-L/Challenger. Need I say more?

      1. Just to clarify, NASA management pushed for a launch under adverse conditions, despite engineers pleading not to do it. The engineers were over-ruled and we all know what happened after that.

        Similarly, those physicians who speak out against the vaccines find their career prospects curtailed. Nice system we have in this country, don’t we?

          1. The situation was well-publicized that I thought that everybody knew about it.

    2. Stand up for free speech and ethics
      Rally in Saskatoon June 28 for Dr. Christianson.
      University Bowl 7pm

  5. The lack of intellectual acuity in Canada is extremely dangerous to the wellbeing of all citizens. We should be ashamed.

  6. Test, test. Hmm. Odd. Previous attempts to post with both links failed. This re-post was done in about 5 edits to see where it would fail (and it didn’t this time).

    Related?
    https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indian-bar-association-sues-who-scientist-over-ivermectin/article_f90599f8-c7be-11eb-a8dc-0b3cbb3b4dfa.html
    Regarding the second wave of Covid… Among the most prominent examples include the Ivermectin areas of Delhi, Uttar Pradesh, Uttarakhand, and Goa where cases dropped 98%, 97%, 94%, and 86%, respectively. By contrast, Tamil Nadu opted out of Ivermectin. As a result, their cases skyrocketed and rose to the highest in India. Tamil Nadu deaths increased ten-fold.

    The rambling-in-legalese version is at https://indianbarassociation.in/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/LEGAL-NOTICE-FOR-CONTEMPT_JUNE-13-2021.pdf

  7. “…Ideally, independent scientists …”

    Heard of those, haven’t actually identified one yet.

    1. A truly independent scientist is someone who funds his or her research from their own money. Most academic researchers are not only beholden to their employers but to those who provide them their cash.

  8. Remember when mom’s use to say; just because all your “friends” are jumping off a cliff -doesn’t mean you have to!
    Sage advice.
    Yeah yeah yeah it’s a small risk and all that, but then again so is catching covid-FLU and suffering long term effects or even dying from it.
    .02 to .006 …
    I’ll take my chances with natural immunity, my body, my choice.

    1. Remember when mom’s use to say; just because all your “friends” are jumping off a cliff -doesn’t mean you have to!

      But….. but….. but, if you don’t take it, grandparents won’t be able to see their grandbrats, or so that wretched AHS ad that sometimes precedes a Rebel News video tells us.

      No, I don’t care if grandma and grandpa can’t see the grandkiddies whenever they want to. It’s time that people take responsibility for their own lives and their own affairs and stop dumping their circumstances onto me. Life’s full of risks and maybe people should take a chance once in a while.

      1. “But….. but….. but, if you don’t take it, grandparents won’t be able to see their grandbrats,”

        Yeah, about that, why aren’t grandparents vaccinated?
        Oh they are vaccinated?
        So why are they in danger?
        Because children aren’t vaccinated?
        How does that work?

        So when we vaccinate children (that are not in danger) with the same vaccine that we have vaccinated grandparents with (and that apparently isn’t enough to keep grandparents out of danger) the grandparents will be out of danger.

        Makes perfect sense to Karens and publik edumbakated millennials, I am sure.

        1. “Oh they are vaccinated?
          So why are they in danger?”

          You silly! Doncha know that their vaccinations don’t work unless you get one?

  9. How about,we behead them all and start again?
    Fools such as our anti-social vampires,I mean elected leaders,cannot go unrewarded for their fine work.
    Having killed thousands of citizens in their direct care,deprived the rest of us of civil society and the freedom to make a living,all over a virus that turns out to be weak..Not Pandemic Grade.

    We had to kill the old folks in our care,bankrupt the actual taxpayer and threaten and fine the healthy and openly admit that in government eyes Canadians have ZERO rights or freedoms..To save you from a Computer Projected Pandemic,possibly cultivated in our Winnipeg Lab..Why aren’t you peasants cheering?

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