Monte Solberg is backing down on David Dingwall. Because, as the LIberals have been busy pointing out – not just any idiot can make money at a Mint.
Monte Solberg is backing down on David Dingwall. Because, as the LIberals have been busy pointing out – not just any idiot can make money at a Mint.
Dingwall has made quite an indictment of all the staff at the mint. These different levels of managers and vice presidents were incompetent to run the operation profitably apparently before Dingwall came on the scene according to him but they still all are on staff. Why does the government continue to have these incompetents on staff?
Or is Dingwall just an arrogant blowhard?
The Hill Times, October 24: “Dingwall is entitled to one week per year: PCO guidelines”
http://www.thehilltimes.ca/html/index.php?display=story&full_path=/2005/october/24/dingwall/&c=1
Sounds right to me. It’s what federal public servants get.
Excerpt:
‘David Dingwall, who resigned a little less than three years early into a five-year posting as president of the Royal Canadian Mint last month because he said he was “somewhat compelled” to over a “firestorm” created by “flagrant falsehoods,” is entitled to a severance pay of one week per year of service at the Mint, or an estimated $9,600, according to Privy Council Office guidelines.
The Privy Council Office guidelines for Terms and Conditions of Employment for Full-Time Governor in Council Appointees states that appointees are allowed one week’s pay for each completed year of service up to 28 weeks, “payable on termination of employment, regardless of reason for departure.”‘..
But if there is this clear PCO guideline, why did not the government/McCallum point to this from the start rather than blathering on about the common law and four different federal acts and sets of guideline, with the explanation changing day-by-day for the first few days? Even these ministers could not simply be that incompetent.
Something still stinks.
Mark
Ottawa
Monte is wisely backing away from this because the run on Dingwall, [ and he deserves it], was too emotionally charged and so the details were sloppy.
The clever and cunning Dingwall got his ducks lined up and stuck to that with what seems like a razor sharp mind.
These are not dummies we are fooling with here. Wrong moves will cost us plenty. I expect Dingwall now gets a settlement or launches a multi-million dollar lawsuit. Unfair defamation of character. Hold on!
The librano old boy club didn’t get their iron fisted grip on the control room of our *SS Canada* without some stealth and smarts here and there.
A worthy opponent. The coming months will be interesting in the Chinese sense. TG
I still don’t think that Dingwall is entitled (there’s that word again) to any severance whatsoever.
By my understanding, an employer is not obligated to pay one week per year of service for an employee that quits his job (that law is in place for employees that are fired or laid off, and I believe it can be up to two weeks per year employed in some provinces).
The last job I quit, I had been there for 6 years, and I certainly don’t recall getting six weeks severance pay. The only monies I received were for unused vacation time.
We shouldn’t even accept that Dingwall receive dime one for quitting.
And trying to get us to accept that his expense account abuses were Mint money and not taxpayer money….the man is too stupid for words. If he expects any one to accept that explanation, he surely must be struggling with a low double digit IQ.
Tulip, You obviously missed the unfolding drama on CPAC. Dingwall’s IQ is without any doubt superior to most. Sad to say, TG
Tulip: Fine, but the guidelines are the guidelines under which he accepted the job. They exist, and if he is in fact entitled to severance under them, that’s it.
Federal public servants are also entitled to severance pay:
“Severance pay is an entitlement that may be payable to an employee of the Public Service upon termination of employment if certain requirements are met.
The conditions for payment of severance pay are contained in the collective agreements, pay plans, or specific terms and conditions of employment.”
http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pubs_pol/hrpubs/TBM_11A/sp-id1_e.asp#_Toc51047408
For example, for the Clerical group:
“ARTICLE 63
SEVERANCE PAY
63.01 Under the following circumstances and subject to clause 63.02, an employee shall receive severance benefits calculated on the basis of the weekly rate of pay to which he or she is entitled for the classification prescribed in his or her certificate of appointment on the date of his or her termination of employment…
(b) Resignation
On resignation, subject to paragraph 63.01(d) and with ten (10) or more years of continuous employment, one-half (1/2) week’s pay for each complete year of continuous employment up to a maximum of twenty-six (26) years with a maximum benefit of thirteen (13) weeks’ pay.”
http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pubs_pol/hrpubs/coll_agre/table1-3_e.asp#_Toc97597079
So they have to work ten years before severance on resignation. But they get 1.5 weeks pay for each year, the Walldinger only gets one week.
Mark
Ottawa
Is it possible, that ‘entitlements’ are based on who you know and what you know, and whether you keep your mouth shut or not?
TG
I do agree with your the reference in your first posting, there is a measure of cleverness and cunning in Dingwall. Only in reference to trying to get people (me) to accept his explanation of his expenses being covered by “MINT money and not taxpayer money” do I refer to him having a potentially questionable IQ.
Please explain how you think that his character has been defamed in anything that has been said or done thus far….I see no potential for a lawsuit at all…won’t happen.
And Monte’s not backing down and in the end, I am quite confident he won’t back down…he was just being incredibly sarcastic.
“payable on termination of employment, regardless of reason for departure.”
I’d like to know if Dingwall, or any other of these other scam artists, have left, collected a package, been rehired, collected another package….
What a way to make a living.
Mark:
“So they have to work ten years before severance on resignation. But they get 1.5 weeks pay for each year, the Walldinger only gets one week.”
This doesn’t make sense…your suggestion is that an “example” employee with 10 years service will get 1 week per year for a termination (layoff/firing), but 1.5 weeks pay if they resign…I don’t think it’s cumulative, as I read that a resigning employee gets only the 0.5 weeks per year of service (again with ten years service)
Remember that Brian Pallister obtained Dingwall’s employment contract and that no severance program was indicated within it. If he has to follow the employment guidelines as per your posting, he gets nothing as he was only there for 2 years (not the ten years required).
Kate I know your wacked out sense of humor anywhere. Lost your e-mail after Saskatoon. I am now living in Merida Mexico. Carol Lees and hubby and child where here last year. We had a great visit. please e-mail me so we can keep in touch. Iona
tulip: Dingwall falls under the Treasury Board guidelines for Order-in-Council appointments (post #2 above) that specify one week’s salary per year of service. These guidelines are quite separate (and sweeter) than the rules for regular public servants I posted.
Your quite right about regular public servants–I misread it. One-half week’s salary per year of service.
Thanks for catching that.
Mark
Ottawa
Mark, your ammo always floors me. TG
Here’s something I’ve been wondering about. Who is the mint competing with? In other words, so what if they make a “profit.” In terms of corporate governance (after all we the taxpayers are the shareholders), who cares if the mint is making a “profit;” how does that allow Dingwall et al the right to some of these ridiculous expenditures. Entitlement to entitlement – I hope that quote is used often and loudly in the next federal election. One more question, is the mint subject to the auditor general’s purview?
TonyGuitar: .50 calibre Google, 7.62mm Government of Canada website and .223 knowledge.
Mark
Ottawa
Phil,
Along those same lines, my question has always been – how does a division of government resposible for the printing, minting and recycling of our currency actually make a profit?
Canada Post sells stamps and other services. What does the Mint sell? Inukshuk coin collectables for 4 easy payments of 19.95?
Anyone have any insight on this ‘profit’phenomena?
Brian Pallister suggested what has gone down – a deal was made with pmpm and that little piece of slime is holding pmpm’s feet to the flame. Ding dong knows something that the Liberano’s don’t want out. They are not ‘brown bagging’ him because that arrogant little rat wants a clean bill of ‘crook free’ on his name. Makes me vomit.
The mint sells numismatic ( I read that as collectible) coins in Canada as well as producing special order numismatic coins for foreign customers as well as producing foreign coins for circulation.
The corks/rats in the Chretien/AdScam Martin bottle: Good old Damocles’s sword hanging over AdScam Martin & the Liberal Party of Canada.Who will wield the sword? Follow the money rats. $$$$$
Apparently their [Guite and Dingwall’s ] working arrangement was sealed when Dingwall shook Guite’s hand with the observation, �Welcome aboard. You won�t rat on them [your last boss], you won’t rat on us.�
http://www.chuckstrahl.com/
I have to admit, I was almost suprised the liebrals had the gall to use the words “The Mint” and “profit” in the same sentence, so frequently… Just to justify Dingwall.
Rich,
Thanks. That helps clear up some of the mystery.
B.
Alcock and Dingwall, aka Alwall & Dingcock. Same old, same old Librano$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ now marauding through Canada masked as “The Reform Party of Canada”. Same old cud of “Gum”; just another day, same old Gum. >>>
Treasury Board President Reg Alcock is releasing his long-promised report to Justice John Gomery today…. blah, blah, blah
THE CITIZEN
Liberals to unveil scandal-prevention plan
Government to salvage 200-year-old doctrine of ministerial responsibility, revamp staffing rules>
http://www.rapp.org/url/?QBVV331Q
The Canadian Mint has bought airtime on CTV Newsnet, the ads are running today. A few weeks ago it was CIDA. Do you think the Fibs are buying favourable reporting or maybe trying to smother Dingwall-gate?