With more photos from behind the barricades of the arsonists … thieves … extortionists … Proud And Peaceful Protestors[tm].
The bridge barricade shown was constructed “using Hydro 1 trestles of the new transmission line towers”.
With more photos from behind the barricades of the arsonists … thieves … extortionists … Proud And Peaceful Protestors[tm].
The bridge barricade shown was constructed “using Hydro 1 trestles of the new transmission line towers”.
Having read the website, what I am about to say is from somebody who worked w/ Ontario Liberal staff for a few years – my real e-mail is in here for Kate to buzz me if need be, but Dalton McGuinty has a callsign of sorts… try Dalton McGONEty – emphasis on gone.
I say that because Dalton McGONEty had a nasty habit when opposition leader of not being present. This was while his deputy opposition leader – one Sandra Pupatello (callsign Lady Churchill, thanks to a letter to the editor of the Windsor Star comparing her to who else but… Sir Winston Churchill)
I wish I could wave a wand and give the people of Ontario a Pupatello who would, through strength of character, resolve the situation quickly, briskly, fairly, knowlingly and justly. But I can’t. Dalton McGuinty is no Pupatello and he will be absent… until it suits him to parade in front of a camera to do so.
Just ask Tasha Kheriddin, formerly of the Canadian Taxpayers’ Federation and now Executive Vice-President and Acting President of the Montreal Economic Institute (congrats!) or John Williamson (current federal Canadian Taxpayers’ Federation director) about Dalton McGuinty and a Taxpayer Protection Promise.
On that note: I will conclude w/ a quotation Leon Panetta, former White House Chief of Staff: “in our democracy that we govern either by crisis or leadership. If leadership is not there, make no mistake about it, crisis drives policy in this country too often today” (SOURCE).
How kind of Hydro 1 to lend those trestles to the downtrodden victims of the Six Nations.
Will they be allowed to declare this as a deduction on their tax returns?
dmorris:
Nah this will show up as hydro debt reduction on your bill.
I have to say I’m missing Rasky right now!!!
So .. say again … What is the wampum in question?
Did any of these terrorists want anything to do with this hunk of land before it became valuable development property?
I mean, why now?
Just asking.
Send in the Leopard II’s.
Is it time to send in the army?
Glad to see that the people who produced the site realised that they have charter rights. I hope that they also realise that they can defend against further attacks in a court of law. The truth may NOT be suppressed.
Duke asks the best questions!
Unless natives can prove there are complete plans for a casino complex and permits ready to go, The natives should move aside and build a shopping mall nearby.
Don*t fight *em… Join *em and prosper! TG
It’s good to see the operators of the web site have decided to resume posting despite the threats from thugs and the OPP.
Anybody care to guess on how long Dalton will remain in hiding or what it might take for him to develop the backbone to enforce the rule of law?? Yea, that could take a while.
I was recently perusing the comments regarding this over at the rabble babble (I know, I know) and found the discourse quite indicitive of the lefts view of all this.
Somebody posted a link to the citizens of calidonia website with the simple comment that some may be interested in viewing the other side of the situation. You should have seen the moonbats swarm.
The person posting was labeled racist, the calidonia site was labeled racist and the “offender” was banned from the site by the “moderator”. (an oxymoron in this case)
I guess that’s the thing about moonbats, they just can’t stand the light of truth. It’s hard on thier eyes and even harder on thier delicate sensibilities.
*sigh*
Syncro
It is long past time to send in the army to kick ass.
I find it laughable that the OPP will say that website incites hatred. Frankly, the Indians are doing a fine job of that themselves.
There clearly seems to be one set of laws for those that could cause a political nightmare and for those that pay their taxes..follow the law and just try to get by.
Liberal apperatchicks turning on their own demigods ….love it…like watching lab rats eat their young…open display of the situational ethics and fleeting loyalties in partisan ranks.
Maybe just part of the problem is Dolton McSquinty and his cowardly lost-boy politics,… maybe the larger problem is the grotesque size and consequent general unaccountability of Ontario government that has let so many issues reach crisis point….gangland crime in TO, farm policy crisis, native land dispute crisis, Health care crisis….meanwhile Ontario bureaucracies expand, bureaucrats become lethargic and insulated and issues fester….and public debt remains high and a taboo subject.
Hurling a public sector tad like McSquinty from office is only half the job, the other part will be reducing the size of provincial bureaucracy to reflect accountability and debt settlement….Harris stalled and Tory hasn’t the nuts to go up against the public sector unions which have a strangle hold on the taxpayer…and so no matter who sits in Queens park Ontraio will experience one crisis after anohter as all poorly managed states do.
W L Mackenzie redux said:”and so no matter who sits in Queens park Ontraio will experience one crisis after anohter as all poorly managed states do.” +
Why are rural landowners under attack?
Why are rural landowners under attack? Why do we need property rights entrenched in our Constitution? Here is the government’s plan and strategy to attack rural landowners and their economy. TAKING our land-For their use.
People often believe that governments are benevolent and have our best interests at heart when they pass legislation: and that the failings of government policy and legislation are the result of poor implementation or their lack of knowledge and competence. The Vancouver declaration proves they are both neither benevolent, nor incompetent, only deceptive. This declaration provides the bureaucratic rational for collecting data regarding your land and then using that data to change your ownership rights. Read more http://habitat.igc.org/vancouver/vp-a.htm
The second step of the plan was concluded with the repatriation of the Canadian constitution that omitted property rights from the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but included collective & minority rights. Read the Charter at http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/charter/
The third step is the abolition and modification to existing water use rights as outlined in the 1989 UN Charter on Ground Water Management that Canada signed onto. Read more http://www.internationalwaterlaw.org/
The fourth and final step is found in “The panel Report-On the role of government, which lays out the framework to manage the death of Rural Ontario. Read more at Nov 1, 2005:INVESTING IN PEOPLE – Creating a Human Capital Society for Ontario
47,000 more reasons to fight back http://www.ruralrevolution.com/website/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=132&Itemid=205
Randy Hillier
President Ontario Landowners’ Association
January 9, 2006 +
Press Release
The MANITOULIN LANDOWNERS ASSOCIATION (MLA) (a.k.a. Friends of Manitoulin)
invites you to a public information meeting
Thursday, May 18, 2006
7:00 – 9:00 p.m.
Manitoulin Secondary School, M’Chigeeng
Guest Speakers/Presentation Topics
Toby Barrett – Progressive Conservative MPP Haldimand-Norfolk-Brant
“Enshrining Property Rights in the Charter of Rights”
Denis St-Pierre – Retired Dairy Farmer
“Significant Implications of the Source Water Protection Act”
Randy Hillier – President, Ontario Landowners Association
“Fighting for the Rural Rights of Landowners and Business Owners”
If you are concerned about property rights, plan on attending.
Manitoulin Landowners Association 2006 Memberships will be available.
Your support is needed.
http://www.ruralrevolution.com/website/
Maz2 – you’re making a lot of work for me. Half of your comments are getting caught in the spam filter.
First – this is off topic. On topic means it relates to the post, period.
Second – the use of more than three links in a comment tags it as spam
Please start shortening these link dumps, and try not to use symbols like +, &, etc…. these are also scored by the filter as signalling spam.
Filters Kate?. The MSM CBCpravda and CTVtass have filtered this story out of existance.
expect full coverage of any post event trials- if there are lawyers or lactating mothers, CBCpravda is there with a vengence.
Let’s not mail out cheques to any Indians untill the people of Caledonia say it’s cool.
The “protesters” are showing some pretty good agitation skills. By pulling this stunt in semi-rural Ontario they can put pressure on Dolton to get what they want without forcing him to do anything sudden. Very savy. Wonder where they learned it?
Had they pulled this crap in Toronto they would have been tossed in the slammer the same day. The Liberals know Toronto is -important!-, can’t let the Indians block traffic.
But Caledonia is NOT important, so it is safe to allow the disruption to continue all summer long. Makes a nice little on going news piece, which the Liberals and the Indians can both rest assured will be manipulated in their favor.
The townspeople can rest assured that Dolton the Invisible Man will be thinking of how they voted last time (Conservative). They can view this as a nice little payback for not being loyal Liberals, and for not living in Toronto like they ought to. They can also count on being portrayed as hayseed racist/bigot/homophobes in the media. Every story needs a bad guy, and they are it.
Bottom line, the resolution of this farce rests with private citizens and the blogs. Either we drive it, or it ain’t moving.
Did Nelson Mendela say a few years back that Canadian treatment of natives was like apartheid?
Does apartheid mean racist…two diferent groups(defined by race) are treated differently by law?
Do we not have two sets of laws in our land,one for natives, one for others?
That’s probaby not what Nelson Mendela meant…he probably thought the natives were being treated as second class citizens.
This is legalized racism.
Looks like they will get away with the destruction of public property.
Who really is being treated as ‘second class’?
Who is really ‘above the law’?
Posted by: Former Pal of Ontario Liberals at May 8, 2006 10:49 PM
On my comment, second paragraph forgot to add in italics…
“I say that because Dalton McGONEty had a nasty habit when opposition leader of not being present. This was while his deputy opposition leader – one Sandra Pupatello (callsign Lady Churchill, thanks to a letter to the editor of the Windsor Star comparing her to who else but… Sir Winston Churchill) was being bullied by David Tsubouchi over her opposition to a crony land deal and Liz Witmer’s false accusations of Pupatello overspending her personal legislative budget while in Opposition. There is good reason to believe that Dalton McGuinty did not do his job and step into the breech to stop the bullying. This is an example of McGuinty leadership..
If the management of Ontario Hydro had any intestinal fortitude they would simply cut off all power to the Six Nations. That is until their transmission tower parts are returned to the original location and in perfect condition.
Why are these clows NOT in jail yet?
Correction: CLOWNS ?
Cut off power? Nah. Cut off the cigarette supply. With a threat like this they’ll clean up the bridge, extinguish the burning tires and start planting marigolds just to ensure a steady stream of Players Filter King Size.
nation good. first nation better .
nation good. first nation better.
Canada is like animal farm – certain laws for certain people.
CBCpravda still avoiding anything that paints first nations as failing.
maybe Rex Murphy if he reads the blogs can comment on CBCs ommision.
I see the private news agency CTVtass is carrying at least the tragedy in Alberta of more native teen murderers.
Too late for this knotty event, but to stop any other road and community blocking events there will have to be a change in OPP policy starting with PROMPT response.
At any demo first sign, the perps are whisked off to a round table conference at the local big-house, [slammer].
Everybody can go home when an agreement is reached.
Problem with this perfect solution?
The first requirement silly! A prompt response from the OPP. Impossible! TG
I’ve never been a fan of racism and this racist government policy of allowing one race to be excempt from charges of theft, public mischief, obstruction of justice, willfull damage of public property and the list goes one, drives me around the bend.
I hate racists with a passion.
Pat
Historic Nunavut flag rescued from trash can
Last Updated Tue, 09 May 2006 09:23:40 EDT
CBC News
The flag that flew over the first sitting of the Nunavut legislative assembly has turned up at an Inuit art shop in Saint John.
This flag flew over the first sitting of the Nunavut legislative assembly on April 1, 1999. (CBC)
RELATED: The creation of Nunavut
The territorial flag made its way to New Brunswick after a teacher rescued it from a garbage can at the Iqaluit school where it was raised.
Construction of Nunavut’s legislature wasn’t finished in time for the first sitting on April 1, 1999, so legislators gathered at the local high school instead.
more evidence how these people are at one with the land and their past(from CBCpravda)
Grow some balls McSquinty.
so, um, when does the pogie/treaty cheques come in?
Leave them in a pile this side of the barracade…
and…
Since the politicians are fearful of a repeat nightmare (OKA) and the OPP cannot control the situation in Caledonia (orders from up above), then cut off the cheques to the band-when the food stops coming-let’s see how long that will take-time to take down the barricades-honestly-there are ways to take control of this situation. The politicians should be ashamed of themselves!!
It is time to put property rights into the Charter-take a serious look at this-everyone.
Since the politicians are fearful of a repeat nightmare (OKA) and the OPP cannot control the situation in Caledonia (orders from up above), then cut off the cheques to the band-when the food stops coming-let’s see how long that will take-time to take down the barricades-honestly-there are ways to take control of this situation. The politicians should be ashamed of themselves!!
It is time to put property rights into the Charter-take a serious look at this-everyone.
Why don’t these natives go and blocade the Toronto Stock Exchange and there will be some action?
Haven’t the people of Caledonia been inconvenienced enough already?
Time to go after the big fish.
Hate to say this but,the natives will come out ahead.Jane Stewart,formerly of HRDC and also Chretien’s illegimate daughter,is one of the governments main negotiators. Once again common sense will lose to political correctness. Stay tuned for the next episode of”You Stole Our Land” filmed along the MacKenzie Valley pipeline.
Hey Caledonia it’s about time everyone started to pick on the governments. If it’s anyones fault it is theres for not resolving this matter 200 years ago.
To respond to all them people who think the natives get a monthly cheque ‘STILL’, give me a break.
Also there is plenty of food out there beside Zehrs or any local shopping mart. We have lived off the land before, and we can do it again, it’s in our blood.
Cayuga – Native origin
Oneida – ”
Onondaga – ”
Canada – Native origin………….as the song states…..OH CANADA, OUR HOME ON NATIVE LAND.
Form your local Native Caledonia Resident
Caledonia Grandma
more evidence of the “first nations ” being at one with the land. from CBCpravda
Walrus numbers in decline, Canadian scientists warn
Last Updated Wed, 10 May 2006 12:13:56 EDT
CBC News
The Atlantic walrus population is now a species of special concern and over-hunting may be to blame, says the Committee on the Status of Endangered Wildlife in Canada.
and yet another , clearing the first nations of killing off all the game and putting it on to David Suzuki– Mr. Global Warming.
CBCpravda agenda is that Global warming is always bad and Indians are always good.
a cut and paste from Pravda
Humans cleared of killing off woolly mammoths
Last Updated Wed, 10 May 2006 14:13:18 EDT
CBC News
Climate shifts, not over-hunting, killed off the woolly mammoth and wild horse, a carbon-dating study suggests.
FROM NOV. 12, 2003: Climate tied to horse extinction
What caused the animals to become extinct at the end of the last Ice Age more than 10,000 years ago has been one of prehistory’s greatest whodunits. Biologists have often pointed the finger at over-hunting by expanding populations of humans.
Reading the posts, I must say, I was in complete awe of the responses. The selfish, mindless, idiotic, racist rhetoric towards First Nations people reminds me just how much people are lacking any intelligent thought process.
So, if the situation was reversed and you were in their place, you would just roll over and hand them your home/property without protest? I don’t think so Sparky! Last year, the US used the law of eminent domain (in Canada it’s expropriate) to remove people from their land/homes/business. State & local governments have taken private property, not for public uses, like public buildings…etc, but for private businesses in the guise of economic development. They’ve bulldozed non-native private homes/small businesses, only to replace them with newer businesses & homes. Those are not owned by the public, but they are owned by private, politically powerful individuals & corporations. Do you really trust your politicians, not to do the same to you? As they say, what goes around, comes around. It may not happen right away but perhaps in your children’s or grandchildren’s time, it will. One day, this issue will come around again and next time bite you in the ass. Have a nice day!
I don’t know why most Canadians think Natives get cheques. Welfare cheques, treaty cheques or otherwise. It is not true that all Natives get cheques!!!!
I think most people posting here should really do more to educate yourselves about Native people and the struggles they have endured since European contact. Maybe then you won’t be so quick to judge.
mamateacher
Hmmm…ok, so I was painting with a brush…
I will rephrase “MOST First Nations types get a cheque”.
There, now, feel better. Oh as for educate, well I used to live up at Cold Lake, you know the one with three reserves and two metis colonies within a 50K radius, not to mention a Mormon outfit, a JW outfit and a broken down combine on Joseph Bighead Reserve, that’s on the Sask side of things.
Educate? I got enough living up there, especially on pogie day, err I mean treaty day/Pow Wow where everyone got a $1, but it’s the other days of the year I see a lot of money flowing out there. Brand new cedar homes built for them, only to be torn apart for, get this, firewood.
Talk about tax dollars going up in smoke.
Yep, educate. Granted, I will say the common Joe Indian doesn’t get the money, it’s the leaders, the chiefs and band council who get the wads of cash.
So don’t blame us whities…corruption is rampant in Indian Affairs. Interesting enough, the Calgary Indian Affairs office is staff by a lot of whities…hmm.
Hey all you “advisors and experts” give real people a break. “send in the army”..let me tell you from somebody who was at Kanesatake…your little army guys shit their pants when we just yelled at them.
They got lucky we didn’t boogie with em.. They looked like a bunch of half-wits when the warriors and women walked out..
Best advice is do what your chicken-shit opp scaredy cats did at Ipperwash… shoot us in the back when we’re unarmed.
bunch a stupid twats giving advice.
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most of the people posting are very very uneducated..
please read
05/04/06 – The Six Nations Council would like to convey their shock and dismay with the quick response the Ontario Government through the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs have made in relation to financial support provided through a confidentiality agreement to Douglas Creek Estates Developer Henco Industries, the developer at the centre of the current Land Claim in Caledonia Ontario.
Council is reminded how quickly the Governments can move in settling and compensating select parties. This gesture undermines the efforts of negotiating in good faith and at times could be construed as racist and unfair treatment. Although the Negotiating Team has not commenced negotiations, the Ontario Government provides compensation to Henco and the builders, and the Ontario Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing provides two grants of $50,000 to the municipality of Caledonia for promotion of businesses.
Council has stressed that the whole issue of unresolved land claims needs to be the major focus. The Ontario Government believes that only one side in the negotiations is worthy of financial compensation when all people are making concessions and are affected by the situation.
IF you think the devlopers or the city has been put out.. think again
losers.
phreakgeek
Nothing like the truth of history to bring forth frothing racists from behind their curtians in the Dominion of Canada.
Hydro has much to fear as they have trespassed and exploited for decades.
Time to pay the piper folks and if I were from Six Nations…I’d never spend one cent in Caladonia. I’d take my shopping dollars somewhere else.
And…
We’ll see who screams first when the bucks stop flowing into Caledonia businesses.
Six Nations never have to fear starvation. They have friends all over the country who are more than willing to help them in their time of need.
tomax,
I really think you do need to be properly educated. The bathroom walls are not accurate.
Treaty Indians get $5 a year, as promised in Treaty as long as the sun shine, grass grows and rivers flow….
Cold Lake First Nations does not hold powwows.
Cold Lake First Nations never got cedar homes, ever.
For the record I do not blame “whiteys”. Such terminology shows YOUR ignorance.
Also, for the record, most First Nations people knew long ago and have always “protested” the over expenditures of Indian Affairs. If you are really concerned about your tax dollars, look there for your abuses…. Let me know what you find out.
sorry. i think a lot of people posting in support of the terrorist actions taking place in Caledonia need the education, not the other way around.
simply put, natives do get a lot of benefits non-native canadians don’t. it’s not a rare argument to say this is the reason for many’s lot and state of dependency…
you had it rough? too bad. tell that to the chinese, jews or blacks… it’s a different story, they don’t have support in perpetuity or the availability of housing provided by BSF dollars.
the situation that exists today is perhaps not the effect of colonialism it is too much paternal nature and special treatment. it is the fact the law is not enforced on certain groups of people and situations like Caledonia are allowed to progress past the half hour point.
your view of the “educated” relates to those who come to share your delusional viewpoint that Canada, in it’s entirety belongs to you. anyone not sharing that viewpoint is uneducated, racist or of a colonial mindset.
Citizens of Caledonia rise up and register a class action lawsuit over the loss of your Charter rights! Protesting isn’t going to get you anywhere as we’ve seen.
You are entitled to a lot of compensation for this tragedy and “act of insurrection” as the insurers would say.
People like the above poster anonymous sure make me cackle with laughter. An uneducated know nothing twit telling me I am uneducated and backward.
The trouble with dummies like you is the latent stupidy that makes you incapable of rising to any level of sophistication.
Next time you want to criticise “us” and inform us of all the free benefits we supposedly receive…list some and then explain how just because you benefit from our oil, gas, mineral, forestry and fisheries….how free it is. Dummy
People like the above poster anonymous sure make me cackle with laughter. An uneducated know nothing twit telling me I am uneducated and backward.
The trouble with dummies like you is the latent stupidy that makes you incapable of rising to any level of sophistication.
Next time you want to criticise “us” and inform us of all the free benefits we supposedly receive…list some and then explain how just because you benefit from our oil, gas, mineral, forestry and fisheries….how free it is. Dummy
This is to Grandma,
Before telling everyone, like you know it all, to direct their “blame” at the government get a little more informed and take a look at the Native leadership. And start talking to the rank and file Natives if you can get them to talk. There are some incredible stories about band corruption and intimidation. Let’s talk about band leadership taking responsibility too!!! A great article to start with is one that was published in the Ottawa Sun by McAdam recently-I believe I found it on “small dead animals” it just about says it all. The citizens of Caledonia are angry and so they should be-I’m happy to see that they are standing up for their rights.
I love how people harp about ‘the truth’, while reveling in their own ignorance. The stereotypes and outright falsehoods about aboriginal peoples that a great many of you are spewing, do not allow for a firm base for any sort of ‘truth’. The contradictions inherent in your statements further undermine your claims of ‘truth’.
I particularly enjoy how many of you speak of equality, and completely ignore equity. Equality means that people are to all be treated the same. Equity means that people are all to be treated fairly. Equity often means different treatment for different people. A person who is rich, does not need the same financial help as one who is destitute. That is equity.
What aboriginal people demand is equity, not equality. As humans, aboriginal people already are equal. As one of the three founding groups of this nation, aboriginal people are distinct. We do not, in the name of equality, offer counseling services to someone who has not been traumatised by abuse. In the name of equity, we offer these services to those who need them. We do not, in the name of equality, ignore treaties which recognised a people as sovereign. In the name of equity, we recognise that certain rights and responsibilities have been granted to aboriginals and non-aboriginals in this country, and are core to the founding principles of this nation.
That so many of you seem not to understand what those rights and responsibilities are, hints at a stunning lack of education. You aren’t entirely to blame…this basic information is not widely disseminated or understood. It is much easier to react emotionally to situations you do not understand, and to misrepresent the issues, when you have no idea what they are. But what kind of people enjoy parading their ignorance thus? If you don’t know…find out. Educate yourselves.
Do not compare aboriginal people to minority immigrant groups. We are not immigrants. Nor do the majority of aboriginal people claim all of Canada as their own. Most respect the treaties that allowed the Crown to open up certain lands for developments. What is contested is the constant encroachment onto reserved lands, in violation of those treaties, or the encroachment onto lands where title was never extinguished. Until that matter has been settled, until the matter of extinguishment in this case can actually be proven, the protesters have no choice but to block was is, at best, a semi-legal development, and at worst, and out-right illegal land grab.
But instead of looking into this, you will likely continue to spew out ever stereotype you’ve ever heard, every misdirecting accusation you can come up with…pointing your fingers at a people who actually know what ‘standing up for your rights’ means…so much more than making your mark on a ballot every couple of years.
Mohawk,
sounds like the truth hurts. it’s obvious from the tone of your response that it hit a nerve and there were probably “few cackles of laughter”. your response followed the script of my post to the letter.
A person can “ad hominem” all they want but facts remain following a raised voice.
Benefits attributed to many Natives/Native organizations:
– repeat government funding/programs
– tax exemption
– housing provisions
– education/university
– medical/dental
– hunting/fishing privileges
– unequal enforcement of provincial law vs. federal law
– unequal enforcement of the criminal code
(for brevity an overview of benefits are reduced in length and number)
in terms of these not being “free” as for mineral and natural resources we Non-Natives supposedly profit off of: Irrelevant
your case is purely political in nature and over time the afford of DIAND/IA will go the way of the Austrialian “Indian industry”.
Welcome to the Dominion of Canada.
Again, Citizens of Caledonia get a class action going! This poses a greater chance of compensation than repeated protests.