Where the foxes caper unmolested, the government packs your school lunch, and the destruction of British identity was not by accident;
The huge increases in migrants over the last decade were partly due to a politically motivated attempt by ministers to radically change the country and “rub the Right’s nose in diversity”, according to Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett. […] The “deliberate policy”, from late 2000 until “at least February last year”, when the new points based system was introduced, was to open up the UK to mass migration, he said. Some 2.3 million migrants have been added to the population since then, according to Whitehall estimates quietly slipped out last month.
Didn’t all our wonderful French-Canadian Prime-Ministers (Trudeau, Mulroney, Chretien) do the same thing to English-Canada?
not too many muzzies in Hong Kong.
maybe the gates should have been opened, leading up to 1997, to those residents who incidentally ALREADY had british passports.
but Mags said no, and this was discussed in previous recent threads.
Phil gets it, listing lieberal and tory PMs doing the ‘they all do it’ same thing.
lemme know y’all ifn ya need clarification on my position regarding federal politicians.
What I find illuminating in the comments, there, was the assertion that Muslims were single digit minorities–implying they were not a problem.
Then the stat that Norway’s single digit muslim minority occupied 40% of the welfare budget.
8% of the GTA is black and commits 80% of violent crime—-a dirty secret devulged by a Chinese-Canadian policeman just before he was fired for reporting just that to the media.
We are very aware of the estimated 14% minority in the US influence socially—-
It seems these critters are proportionally a problem. 100% of the 911 attackers were young arab, muslim males…..
I was coming up the stairs from the laundry today.
There was this black family up the stairs ahead of me.
They got through the door before I could catch up.
And this little boy saw me as the door closed.
He came back to help me.
He opened the door for me and held it open as I carried my laundry through, and I said thanks.
I hope I meet him again.
Spit..good riddance to both of them.I just hope this time we do not go to help them when they fall into another war.We’ll be to busy fighting our own,starting with Morontario.
Posted last night at Reader Tips for yesterday:
Re “”rub[bing] the Right’s nose in diversity” posted by maz2: I’m pretty clear that that’s exactly what the agenda’s been in Canada too. This agenda has created a huge underclass, which is virtually bankrupting the middle class, so that the ruling lib-left elites — at least, that was PET’s and others’ plan — can have the giant share of the cake pretty much to themselves.
Like Phil and curious_george repeat, this has been the Librano$’ agenda– and, I suspect, possibly to a lesser extent, Mulroney’s — all along. Add Power Corp and Mo Strong to the mix, and it’s toxic alright.
A group doesn’t have to be in the majority to have a catastrophic affect on the host population. All it takes is a critical mass of dysfunctional individuals to completely destabilize and hold hostage the larger group of which they’re a part.
GIVE ME A BREAK, G. We’re not talking individuals here, we’re talking trends, patterns, agendas. Grow up!
Its called vandalism my friends. It is the one and only energetic activity the Left performs with gusto.
They don’t fix things, they don’t make things. They BREAK things.
“A group doesn’t have to be in the majority to have a catastrophic affect on the host population”is so true, batb.
In Canada Trudeau’s Charter is the real tool that empowers all comers. Bucked up by our Multicultural policies it draws people from around the world, encouraging them to come here and change OUR world,our way of life, not the other way around.
Our basic rights and freedoms are showing an entirely different face to Canada, in some cases no face at all.
Who could ever imagine the need for Human Rights commissions in this democracy operated by the rule of law?
Britain is a prime example of Leftist style diversity gone mad.
I do pray it never happens, but Britain and all like her will rue this day when islamic flags fly on government rooftops.
Tony Blair,. and all multi-culti neo-liberal socialists like him, have risked the farm out of political hate.
And they call him a world leader?
Is it the same here?
Now that the Ocean Queen with 76 LTTE fighters arrives in Vancouver and a self-proclaimed Toronto LTTE supporter and operative openly threatens disruption in National Post blog if, according to him, there will be even a hint of debate regarding sending the illegal aliens back home.
Are all these people imported just to buy votes?
Hello?
And shock and surprise the BNP are at 20%.
Think there is a link between governments playing fast and loose and getting a sparkling a nasty counter reaction.
While there is a understandable shouting down of the white supremicist message of the BNP, it misses what is animating its support. It isnt racism, thats a symptom, the causes are related to policies like those highlihted in this story. A trampling and denigration of the existing in a hope that something new will be created.
“Are all these people imported just to buy votes”?
Well maybe you could take a gander at Toronto and the strength of the Liberals in that place for an answer.
There are some signs of change in that regard, some are starting to think for themselves.
Socialism: the religion of the stomach/a shakedown extortion racket.
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“Miliband backs Blair for EU presidency
Foreign Secretary denies he is candidate for key role in new Brussels leadership
The EU needs a new president like Tony Blair, a big name whose arrival in a foreign capital would “stop the traffic”, the Foreign Secretary said yesterday.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/miliband-backs-blair-for-eu-presidency-1809429.html
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>>> Go here* for socialist’s “stop the traffic”.
“*At three in the afternoon it’s always pretty slow going, but on this particular summer Monday the traffi c was almost at a standstill.
This was partly because the normal three lanes going north had been cut down to one. But it was also because of drivers slowing down to a crawl so they could gawp at the massive police operation unfolding on a busy corner of the road.”
*”The raid that rocked the Met: Why gun and drugs op on 6,717 safety deposit boxes could cost taxpayer a fortune
More than 500 officers smashed their way into thousands of safety-deposit boxes to retrieve guns, drugs and millions of pounds of criminal assets. At least, that’s what was supposed to happen. Adrian Levy and Cathy Scott-Clark investigate”
*urlm.in/dhxg
Liz, this kind of question is called rhetorical.
I’ll see your linkage maz2 and raise you this one from Drudge this morning:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/25/world/europe/25surveillance.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1256565793-KWjIXcmE0TyWE0ty+QOW7w
“Suspecting Ms. Paton of falsifying her address to get her daughter into the neighborhood school, local officials here began a covert surveillance operation. They obtained her telephone billing records. And for more than three weeks in 2008, an officer from the Poole education department secretly followed her, noting on a log the movements of the “female and three children” and the “target vehicle” (that would be Ms. Paton, her daughters and their car).
It turned out that Ms. Paton had broken no rules. Her daughter was admitted to the school. But she has not let the matter rest.”
Y’think they’d have followed this lady around if her name was Al Rashid? Or if she was from De Islands, mon? Not a friggin’ chance, mon.
And troll retards please note, that statement says nothing whatsoever about black people or Muslims. It is a statement of disapproval with the actions of the bureaucracy, which plays favorites. Otherwise known as political corruption.
The Left in Britain and here in Canuckistan is primarily a culture of hate and destruction. They are Luddites and camp guards by nature, and they must be defeated.
Barb: “We’re not talking individuals here, we’re talking trends, patterns, agendas.”
We are, but G’s story was heartwarming, nevertheless and a good reminder not to slip into stereotyping without realizing it is stereotyping.
Australian labor did the same thing with the Chinese and defeated John Howard that way. The US left is doing it with Mexicans. When that famous remark was made that the country needed a new electorate, these clowns said “Why Not?”
I’m sorry to burst your collective rightoid bubble but the only constant is change itself. All societies eventually crumble and Western civilization is no exception.
The good news is Islam will eventually crumble as well!
Adieu, adieu mes enfants. Not stirred enough @ 1045
Christianity has survived the rise and fall of numerous empires and philosophies, and is far, far older than Islam … This too, will pass … but at a cost.
Which one are you currently helping to crumble, NSE?
A NuLabour politicians openly admited the purpose of Multiculture was not diversity and tolerance but to divide society along cultural lines. When these cultures fight and riot then it’s up to the government to decide which culture gets supremacy in England that culture is medieval Islamic culture. They don’t deny they are trying to divide society and if it gets violent and ugly they’ll just lock up the sane people.
Of the many valid concerns about immigration expressed here, you are missing a vital one. From a public policy perspective it is critical.
Most government programs are based on having more people paying in than withdrawing (in private life these are called ponzi schemes). As birth rates declined and demography became a relentless enemy in the West a solution was sought to bring in “tax payers” and increased immigration was the answer.
When the immigrants are already educated and ready to be productive citizens the win is huge. When they are refugees, with few or no skills the cost is huge.
If there is a problem in the UK let’s encourge the UK middle class to move here. We need trades people like welders and mill wrights and machinists who can make things we can export and consume.
They will pay taxes and all will be well. We do not need more uneducated non-english speaking radicals. As much as I feel bad for all those in the world who suffer, I also feel bad for those in my community who suffer, but I don’t house and feed them at my house….because I can’t AFFORD to.
Hear, hear Stephen regarding the BNP.
People think the BBC appearance by BNP leader Nick Griffin will lead to their demise.
They’re wrong.
BNP may not be Britons’ ideal, but the political alternatives have ALL sided with the force that will disembowel the country, leaving those with open eyes to the threat of Islam no option.
The truly tragic thing is that David Cameron and the Conservatives could lead an absolute landslide if they were truly conservative instead of poseurs.
Peter, Peter…
Your premise that there are things to be manufactured in Canada is wrong. The Chicom used their shadow front-end triades to pay our pols for creating prohibitive economy policies, forcing businesses to flee in search of better place. Thus there is no need for English workers or South African farmers. All land in Canada is owned already anyway.
Posted by: G.,,,, at 5:08 AM
Gee, how heart warming, but is it true, or just bull for effect?????
I’v had many young people do things for me, some were even dark skinned, but there were also many white skinned ones, so please expound upon the point of your post
Aaron, I’m aware of that, but that is just insiders and amoral thugs doing what they do. The concept of the “service economy” was always deeply flawed. In the world of international trade you have to have something of value to export, and bogus bonds or TBills ain’t it.
The Canadian economic development model was originaly food exports (and other commodities) and we developed one the world’s most successful small economies. Others soon took notice and copied our model…Brazil, Argentina, South Africa, the then Rhodesia etc. As those economies developed demand for our exports and their value decreased. Closely connected with the demise of canada was the establishment of the commodities brokers (mostly in Chicago) who quickly learned how to game the system to suck all the profit out of production and processing and put it all into speculation (service). That’s why lean ground beef used to be 99 cents a pound but is now $3.00 even though the producers are failing. If the retail selling price triples, but the primary producers profits are vaccumed up at the commodities exchange you have a problem.
As for those who seek accomodation and trade with China, like you, i believe we are just selling them the rope to hang us. But that said, the bigger immediate problems are in New York and Chicago and washington DC and Ottawa.
” That’s why lean ground beef used to be 99 cents a pound but is now $3.00 even though the producers are failing. ”
I am sorry, but taking your statistics at face value, I can only say that not enough producers have failed yet to bring up the price. It isn’t the exchanges that are sucking up the profits, it is govt support for otherwise uncompetitive players.
When I heard this lyric from a song by Dar Williams, I almost spite my coffee on my steering wheel laughing at the stupidity:
So, let me see. The govt increases the number of farmers artificially by letting them out of serving in the military. There are more farmers than there otherwise would be producing more crops than would otherwise be produced, and the price drops? Whodathunkit?
It ain’t the commodities traders in either case. It’s the men who collect the taxes and bring the guns if you don’t pay.
Tim, I suggest you look into the activities of firms like Tyson, Con-Agra, ADM, Cargill etc.( See Rats in the Grain for the skinny on ADM) Short term pain for primary producers is acceptable if you can buy their assets at bakruptcy auctions (with wall St. funny money) rehire them to drive tractors on land they used to own and destroy the communities that grew up around the farms.
I live less than 40 miles from the world’s biggest cattle ranch and NY Strips were 14.49 lb. at Safeways on the weekend.
The process which has enabled this is the destruction of the private abatoirs (which competed very effectively against transnational slaughter houses and processors) by forcing regulations on small industry that were inappropriate. (AKA Smart Regulation)
The food security and safety 24/7 blitz we are now subjected to is a very successful product from St. Louis based Fleishman Hilliard, working for the interests of giant agribusiness and Wall St.
As to C&W philosophy as an accurate barometer of economic truth, I’ll give it the same credence as I do Bono or any other do-gooder dingbat. While there may be a grain of truth in what you posit, the far bigger program in place at the same time in the US was PIK (payment in kind), lobbied for by giant ag interests whereby billions of tax dollars were transfered to land title holders for NOT growing crops. How do you think that affected supply? Price? The moral fibre of a new generation of farmers?
What Tim said re beef.
But this is not the point. Point being, those who call the shots in Ottowa are not interested in bringing skilled workers into Canada. Just look at the design of point system – only the IT can get in, and they get points for simply writing in their resume that they do C++ or COBOL – no need to even write and pass a test.
If I was not in IT 10 years ago, I would not qualify – Canada does not give enough points to the civil engineers anymore. Speaks volumes of who they want.
Aaron, two of my lifelong, best friends are geeks, one an Oracle DBA, the other a M. Eng. Both are now working in the US. Neither could find good opportunity in Canada. Perhaps that’s why the feds are tightening up on that skill set.
Mark,
Cameron will win, but they were and are reacting to Labours attempt to villify them with Hidden agenda etc. It will bite them in the butt when they do what they need to do. The UK is still in recession, the mess that Brown is leaving behind is enormous. I believe the only reason the international financial community isnt pushing the UK over the brink is becasue they know its just a matter of time before Brown is gone.
Cameron will have had at least a year to prepare knowing he will have a majority. We will see if he is “wet” or not.
But the analysis I have seen has shown the BNP voters as disaffected Labour supporters. Take away the all whites stuff and BNP looks positively socialist, which of course means they would be national socialsists.
kate has documented quite well the petty things that have gone on in the UK regarding the attempts to destroy or at a minimum devalue the existing culture or norms. The election of Boris as Lord Mayor of London was a first step.
They may not be as conservative as some would like but they arent of the looney left or meddling buruecrats of labour ideologues.
But goodness they have to fix their finances or the whole Island will be sold at a bankruptcy auction.
Gee, if I have been working in C++ for 15 years, I can maybe get into Canada? Good to know. Except I think things are starting to look up here 🙂
Aaron,
Are you saying that these producers force the price of beef down by manipulating the market, then buy up the assets to produce beef themselves hoping that once they have the market to themselves, they will again raise the prices? Or are you saying that these producers are still making a profit at the new lower prices? I am really just curious.
We have a system here in Vermont by which producers all agree to be more inefficient by outlawing BGH use on the cattle, even though the best technology available can’t detect its use in the milk without measuring the increased production per cow, subsidies are paid to the farmers, who are uniformly Democrat, and the farmers all complain about low prices.
I am not a huge believer in free trade internationally. Like pacifism, it sure would be wonderful if everyone agreed to adopt it, but like pacifism, it fails for the same reason. Without universal adoption, it is a recipe for disaster. I think that Emanuel Kant said ,when considering an action, “The moral test should be to ask what not would happen if I do this thing, but what would happen if everybody did this thing” (I paraphrase) Like not paying your fare on the train, or dumping your garbage in the road, or even being rude.
There is an additional question I don’t think he mentioned. “What would happen if I do this thing, and it is not adopted universally” So I am not a big believer (any more) in free trade.
But within a country, I still think the market best allocates the resources. Doesn’t mean that if there is an illegal conspiracy, it shouldn’t be prosecuted if it can be proven.
Most of these huge farms farm taxpayers though. The very farmers that voted in the purveyors of these subsidies have their livelihoods destroyed when the even bigger pigs on wall street are attracted to the trough. Do you think Wall Street would want to be in the farm business without the govt involvement and tax implications? It seems to me that farmers got into bed with a snake and were surprised they were bitten.
England is a very interesting country.
They allowed themselves to be sold at a slave auction not once, but twice, and did nothing about it.
Try to guess when the 1st and 2nd instances occurred!
1st: June 16, 1815
2nd: Sept 16, 1992
Aaron, on this point we agree (1815 and 1992 and it isn’t just England)). That is exactly what’s going on today in my view, with sophistication added to compensate for advances in communication technology.
Once you integrate the understanding that destroyed nations and individuals are just “externalities” and once you discover that it is far easier and less risky to destroy companies to make make money by shorting and manipulating than it is to build companies with risk and innovation, bob’s your uncle.
Kant’s question of “what if everyone did this?” is answered. Insiders are making out like bandits and our childrens children will not have paid off the loot shifted to these criminals over the past 12 months…and the foxes are still guarding the hen house
There was something that struck me on the way home: similarity and contrasts between London raid and 1917 bolshevik turnover.
When the bolsheviks were rounding up the well-off people still remaining in Russia, they too raided the deposit boxes. But in contrast with their British colleagues, they at least offered the people being robbed of gold and diamonds an opportunity to open their boxes and collect platinum, silver and other gems.
Of course that mostly ended up in the bowels of Trade Sindicate at the fraction of what it was worth, but at least people were not robbed entirely of their possessions.
You know what is the worst?
That none of Metro cops took a principled stance, denounced the raid and went public. Speaks volumes of who the so called Law Enforcement Officers really serve.
The British rush to extinction-
Islamic extremist group given £113,000 Government grant to ‘teach five-year-olds their ideology’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223057/Islamic-extremist-group-given-113-000-government-teach-year-olds-ideology.html?ITO=1490#ixzz0V5SdvYKp
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223057/Islamic-extremist-group-given-113-000-government-teach-year-olds-ideology.html?ITO=1490
not stirred enough: ” … I’m sorry to burst your collective rightoid bubble but the only constant is change itself.
Well, nse (I’ll say), I’m sorry to burst YOUR sarcastic and myopic bubble, but there are good changes and there are bad changes.
I have no problem with change, it happens all the time. But I do have a problem with the host population being shoved around, taken to CHRCs, told what to do, what they can say, and how they can say it, by newcomers, especially with the complicity of our leftard elites.
THAT’s bad change. Why would we like it? Why SHOULD we like it?
This……”Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett”….
reminds me of the Indonesian Communists who were also so confident that they had control that they openly boasted so–as well.
The result was history—-very bloody history—-it was “watership down” for the commies—-they were hunted down and….when they were caught–they were killed in many singular ways.
10% of the population is a critical mass capable of doing grave damage to a nation but it is still a small minority easily overwhelmed.
I wonder how long it will be, before the sorts of measures one particular European nation decided to resort to, start to be contemplated once more?
dear me. police doing 6,000 smash and grabs at various valts.
message to the ne’er do wells? a shoe box stuffed into the attic insulation. or maybe things are so backward in jolly ol’ angleterre they dont have newfangled insulation.
they gots lots of newfangled cops at the ready to trample common decency and rule of law in the ‘noble’ quest to ‘git the bad guys’ (and in so doing BECOME the bad guys with their smash and grab tactics (see above).
this *is* such an informative forum.
Racism begins with our families, parents, brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, grandparents, people we admire, respect and love.
However, as we grow and mature we come to the realization that what we were told by our family when we were children were slanted lies base on their prejudices. We realize that most people are like ourselves and not so different and want the same things, like a home, steady work, a Medicare plan and schools for our children (if you travel you will see this). We realize that most people are of good hearts and goodwill.
This reminds me of a parable from the good book where a Levite and Priest come upon a man who fell among thieves and they both individually passed by and didn’t stop to help him.
Finally a man of another race came by, he got down from his beast, decided not to be compassionate by proxy and got down with the injured man, administered first aid, and helped the man in need.
Jesus ended up saying, this was the good man, this was the great man, because he had the capacity to project the “I” into the “thou,” and to be concerned about his fellow man.
You see, the Levite and the Priest were afraid, they asked themselves, “If I stop to help this man, what will happen to me?”
But then the Good Samaritan came by. And he reversed the question: “If I do not stop to help this man, what will happen to him?”
That’s the question before us. The question is not, “If I stop to help our fellow man (immigrant) in need, what will happen to me?” The question is, “If I do not stop to help our fellow man, what will happen to him or her?” That’s the question.
This current climate of blaming others for our woes is not new. We have had this before and we have conquered it.
Remember “Evil flourishes when good men (and women) do nothing”. Raise your voices with those of us who believe we are equal and we can win this battle again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THYgeETrkPs
Land of Hope and Glory, Mother of the Free,
How shall we extol thee, who are born of thee?
Wider still and wider shall thy bounds be set;
God, who made thee mighty, make thee mightier yet,
God, who made thee mighty, make thee mightier yet.
Pardon me while I shed a few tears.
Paul, what are you calling “racism”?
The fact that people name a problem about what’s going on in our country concerning not all newcomers but a critical mass of immigrants who are using lawfare to undermine all of our fundamental (Judeo-Christian) values and institutions is racism?
I beg to differ.
When Winston Churchill named a real problem concerning Germany’s aggression and Hitler’s plans for the world, he was called every name in the book. ‘Happens that he was right and England, under Chamberlain (“peace, peace, where there is no peace”) and Europe took the path of least resistance: appeasement. ‘Look where that led.
The question is not, as you say, “If I stop to help our fellow man (immigrant) in need, what will happen to me?” Canada and Canadians ARE helping our “fellow man,” who often happens to be an immigrant.
But neither is the only question, as you say, “If I do not stop to help our fellow man, what will happen to him or her?” We’re always going to be helping our fellow man, immigrant or born-in-Canada, because that’s the Canadian way.
I put it to you that the question is, “How are we going to deal with the erosion of our democratic values and freedoms, which is happening at an alarming rate, given lawfare being used by a small extremist element in the immigrant population, aided and abetted by the leftist elites? How, especially, are we going to combat the actual loss of ‘rights and freedoms’ when our so-called right of religion and right of freedom of expression has been truncated by the misuse of words such as ‘open,’ ‘tolerant,’ and ‘diverse’ and, finally, ‘racist’ if you question the current multicultural zeitgeist?”
Ironically, the Good Book from which you quote the parable of the Good Samaritan, is taking a mighty drubbing in the public square in Canada. The Bible also says, “Love your neighbour AS yourself.”
Was the Samaritan throwing Molotov cocktails?
Re Molotov Cocktails, Edward Teach: Touché.
And, then there are rogue pilots flying planes into buildings, killing in cold blood thousands of people, and a disproportionate quantity of fertilizer sold to non-farmers, to be used to blow up downtown Toronto along with plans to behead the Prime Minister of Canada, a “small” detail that our media seems to have “forgotten.”