Medicine by witch doctor standards. Just believe…makes a lot of money, though.
Didn’t Lysenko teach the world anything? Sorry, I forgot the only lesson history has taught us; no one ever learns anything.
You’d like to think there are certain types of corporate malfeasance that really only exist in the realm of Hollywood fantasy. For example, the soulless biotech company that, through a combination of shortsighted greed and scientific hubris, decides to play God with Mother Nature—only to unleash a host of unintended consequences, which said company then refuses to acknowledge and instead continues to pursue its reckless technology to devastating ends. Sounds like the plotline of dozens upon dozens of dystopian sci-fi flicks, right? Or maybe it’s just the ongoing saga of Monsanto and the superweeds.
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As NPR reports, a scourge of superweeds that have become resistant to glyphosate is plaguing soybean farmers in parts of Arkansas, Tennessee, and Missouri. They’re not alone. This graph from the International Survey of Herbicide Resistant Weeds shows how the number of unique cases of herbicide resistance in weeds in the U.S. shoots off like a rocket in the years following Monsanto’s introduction of Roundup Ready GMO seed in the mid-1990s. http://www.weedscience.org/Graphs/chronologicalIncreaseuSA.aspx https://www.yahoo.com/news/monsanto-superweeds-saga-only-getting-worse-000354904.html?nhp=1
“Importance of Reproducible Research”, “Publicly available data sets”, “code written in R”, “FOIA”, etc, etc
Watching the video, I was imagining Steve McIntyre (climateaudit.org) watching the same, while standing on his chair and screaming at his computer screen. But one example of (far too) many, this published just today … https://climateaudit.org/2016/08/03/gergis-and-law-dome/
There’s no need for reproducible research, since they already know in their hearts they’re write; their resultant phony baloney jobs and other rent seeking largesse are only coincidence, along with the fact every one of their “solutions” enhances their privilege, puts it to capitalism and is compatible with cultural Marxism.
Yes, if you tax the sheeple, they eventually become discouraged. If you slur, ruin &/or jail dissidents, they become discouraged.
Once sheeple are deemed sufficiently cowed, the dictatorship of the proletariat can take further hold until the useful idiots can be executed/exiled.
Then we’ll all be “comrades.” Look how peaceful and benevolent the Soviet Union, Communist China and North Korea are.
Look at the prosperous lifestyle their peoples enjoyed there, along with Greece and Venezuela.
Crappy research and GMO are 2 entirely separate subjects. http://roundup.ca/en/rounduphistory
2016 is the 40th anniversary of Round-up entering the market and the 20th anniversary of genetically modified seeds in the marketplace. These 2 products have made farmers billions of dollars and saved countless millions of gallons of diesel fuel and extra crop inputs.
Obviously, Jean, you are a true believer in the idea that chemical companies are out to get you, make huuuge profits, and destroy the world for humanity. I know you can always tell a progressive librul, but you can’t tell them much. We have had superweeds resistant to glyphosates since the 1820s. The most well known is Johnson Grass. No, not named after LBJ. but named after the plantation owner who brought it into the country. I’m sure he thought it was a good idea at the time, but it has seeds AND ryzomes which make it almost impossible to kill out, and it eats glyphosate for dinner. Buttercups and Missouri or mule thistles are also quite pesty. But, if you hypnotized true believer heard it on a government radio station (NPR) it must be true. Can I sell you some rope or tar and feathers to punish those dirty scientist at Monsanto? Maybe when Hillary is elected, she will make you head of the EPA or department of agriculture. You apparently have all the qualifications – a female agronomy expert.
This is not political, not as bad as Lysenko or the Crimatologists, who deliberately fudge data. He is talking about honest, stupid, mistakes that people cannot later fess up to because of reputation.
This is the most disturbing thing I’ve seen in a long time. Real people were being treated based on faulty scientific procedures.
Right. He’s not talking incompetence either. The problem isn’t the errors, it’s the refusal to acknowledge error.
Making a mistake like the “off by 1” error is easy. But once you’ve been told you did it, you fix it. But the guys at Duke didn’t – they covered it up. The fact they treated people with drugs selected based on a methodology they KNEW TO BE FLAWED could be deemed criminal.
Your response to a published article is ridiculous. You make assumptions about people you don’t know based on what you think about an excerpt from an article they posted on an internet blog. How risibly shallow of you. Do you always shoot the messenger when you don’t understand the message? Your assumed opinion of me personally is irrelevant to the discussion, keep it to yourself and you won’t look so foolish.
Now back to the science so do try to keep up. This is a link, http://www.weedscience.org/Graphs/chronologicalIncreaseuSA.aspx
click on it to see a graph which shows how the number of unique cases of herbicide resistance in weeds in the U.S. rapidly increases in the years following Monsanto’s introduction of Roundup Ready GMO seed in the mid-1990s. The so called ‘settled science’ on herbicides wasn’t so settled at all.
You’re a knowledgeable sort of person, so figure it out yourself and draw your own conclusions.
“a graph which shows how the number of unique cases of herbicide resistance in weeds in the U.S. rapidly increases in the years following Monsanto’s introduction of Roundup Ready GMO seed in the mid-1990s”
The Crop Life(the crop science trade’s umbrella group) link is good but the graph shows no such thing. The hockey stick shape of the graph starts in the mid eighties, 10 years before GMO seeds were available. Part of the reason for the spike is because of the pro-active approach Crop Life has taken in making sure cases of herbicide resistance are reported on and looked into.
There are a series of informative graphs and you will note that the majority of the cases of herbicide resistance have been found in the USA. The farmers stateside have been relying on glyphosate a bit too much. It’s the cheapest herbicide available and the farm economy stateside has been suffering because of the high US dollar making US grain a tough sell internationally.
Medicine by witch doctor standards. Just believe…makes a lot of money, though.
Didn’t Lysenko teach the world anything? Sorry, I forgot the only lesson history has taught us; no one ever learns anything.
You’d like to think there are certain types of corporate malfeasance that really only exist in the realm of Hollywood fantasy. For example, the soulless biotech company that, through a combination of shortsighted greed and scientific hubris, decides to play God with Mother Nature—only to unleash a host of unintended consequences, which said company then refuses to acknowledge and instead continues to pursue its reckless technology to devastating ends. Sounds like the plotline of dozens upon dozens of dystopian sci-fi flicks, right? Or maybe it’s just the ongoing saga of Monsanto and the superweeds.
…
As NPR reports, a scourge of superweeds that have become resistant to glyphosate is plaguing soybean farmers in parts of Arkansas, Tennessee, and Missouri. They’re not alone. This graph from the International Survey of Herbicide Resistant Weeds shows how the number of unique cases of herbicide resistance in weeds in the U.S. shoots off like a rocket in the years following Monsanto’s introduction of Roundup Ready GMO seed in the mid-1990s.
http://www.weedscience.org/Graphs/chronologicalIncreaseuSA.aspx
https://www.yahoo.com/news/monsanto-superweeds-saga-only-getting-worse-000354904.html?nhp=1
“Importance of Reproducible Research”, “Publicly available data sets”, “code written in R”, “FOIA”, etc, etc
Watching the video, I was imagining Steve McIntyre (climateaudit.org) watching the same, while standing on his chair and screaming at his computer screen. But one example of (far too) many, this published just today …
https://climateaudit.org/2016/08/03/gergis-and-law-dome/
There’s no need for reproducible research, since they already know in their hearts they’re write; their resultant phony baloney jobs and other rent seeking largesse are only coincidence, along with the fact every one of their “solutions” enhances their privilege, puts it to capitalism and is compatible with cultural Marxism.
Yes, if you tax the sheeple, they eventually become discouraged. If you slur, ruin &/or jail dissidents, they become discouraged.
Once sheeple are deemed sufficiently cowed, the dictatorship of the proletariat can take further hold until the useful idiots can be executed/exiled.
Then we’ll all be “comrades.” Look how peaceful and benevolent the Soviet Union, Communist China and North Korea are.
Look at the prosperous lifestyle their peoples enjoyed there, along with Greece and Venezuela.
Crappy research and GMO are 2 entirely separate subjects.
http://roundup.ca/en/rounduphistory
2016 is the 40th anniversary of Round-up entering the market and the 20th anniversary of genetically modified seeds in the marketplace. These 2 products have made farmers billions of dollars and saved countless millions of gallons of diesel fuel and extra crop inputs.
Obviously, Jean, you are a true believer in the idea that chemical companies are out to get you, make huuuge profits, and destroy the world for humanity. I know you can always tell a progressive librul, but you can’t tell them much. We have had superweeds resistant to glyphosates since the 1820s. The most well known is Johnson Grass. No, not named after LBJ. but named after the plantation owner who brought it into the country. I’m sure he thought it was a good idea at the time, but it has seeds AND ryzomes which make it almost impossible to kill out, and it eats glyphosate for dinner. Buttercups and Missouri or mule thistles are also quite pesty. But, if you hypnotized true believer heard it on a government radio station (NPR) it must be true. Can I sell you some rope or tar and feathers to punish those dirty scientist at Monsanto? Maybe when Hillary is elected, she will make you head of the EPA or department of agriculture. You apparently have all the qualifications – a female agronomy expert.
This is not political, not as bad as Lysenko or the Crimatologists, who deliberately fudge data. He is talking about honest, stupid, mistakes that people cannot later fess up to because of reputation.
This is the most disturbing thing I’ve seen in a long time. Real people were being treated based on faulty scientific procedures.
Right. He’s not talking incompetence either. The problem isn’t the errors, it’s the refusal to acknowledge error.
Making a mistake like the “off by 1” error is easy. But once you’ve been told you did it, you fix it. But the guys at Duke didn’t – they covered it up. The fact they treated people with drugs selected based on a methodology they KNEW TO BE FLAWED could be deemed criminal.
Your response to a published article is ridiculous. You make assumptions about people you don’t know based on what you think about an excerpt from an article they posted on an internet blog. How risibly shallow of you. Do you always shoot the messenger when you don’t understand the message? Your assumed opinion of me personally is irrelevant to the discussion, keep it to yourself and you won’t look so foolish.
Now back to the science so do try to keep up. This is a link,
http://www.weedscience.org/Graphs/chronologicalIncreaseuSA.aspx
click on it to see a graph which shows how the number of unique cases of herbicide resistance in weeds in the U.S. rapidly increases in the years following Monsanto’s introduction of Roundup Ready GMO seed in the mid-1990s. The so called ‘settled science’ on herbicides wasn’t so settled at all.
You’re a knowledgeable sort of person, so figure it out yourself and draw your own conclusions.
“a graph which shows how the number of unique cases of herbicide resistance in weeds in the U.S. rapidly increases in the years following Monsanto’s introduction of Roundup Ready GMO seed in the mid-1990s”
The Crop Life(the crop science trade’s umbrella group) link is good but the graph shows no such thing. The hockey stick shape of the graph starts in the mid eighties, 10 years before GMO seeds were available. Part of the reason for the spike is because of the pro-active approach Crop Life has taken in making sure cases of herbicide resistance are reported on and looked into.
There are a series of informative graphs and you will note that the majority of the cases of herbicide resistance have been found in the USA. The farmers stateside have been relying on glyphosate a bit too much. It’s the cheapest herbicide available and the farm economy stateside has been suffering because of the high US dollar making US grain a tough sell internationally.