When humans entered America is one of the most debated questions in archaeology.
People in South America share a complicated connection to groups in South Asia and Oceania? Do they share ancestry from a mysterious group geneticists call Population Y?
It’s improbable that there were no existing populations in the Americas prior to the arrival of the First Immigrants Tribes, but their mythmaking says that they sprung out of the plains where there was no people before.
The “first nations” were not first
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_people
I’m waiting to hear the FN’s Land Acknowledgment… groveling and lying prostate before their predecessors.
Or is that only stuff that white people do?
Prostate…
Lol
Liberated the ‘r’
Big balls, arrr…
There have been people in the world for a million years, and the face of the world has changed a few times over that period, so we clearly can’t rule out people in America very early. Whether there was actually anybody here when the current Indians arrived is another matter. These earlier traces seem to come from a good deal earlier and from people who didn’t last. There must have been quite a few native peoples for whom the Europeans really were the first genuine foreigners they’d seen since before they’d arrived in Mexico. So we can’t really blame them if they remember it that way.
I recall recently there was some remains found on the east coast of the US, that were initially dated before any “natives” lived there. The current “natives” demanded and were granted custody of the remains, to avoid further study. Obviously so that we could not find out Europeans had settled the area before the Indians
Kennewick Man. West coast
The Polynesians inhabited every tiny island in the Pacific ocean and missed the largest one of all.. North and South America?.. And thinking this skill set was unique to them would also be false.. Conquering the Pacific could only be done by sharing knowledge..
Stop the clock.. A bunch of European Christians took the place over and signed treaties that gave the land to the natives forever.. In return we got beaver pelts.. It seemed like a good deal at the time..
They didn’t get to New Zealand until quite late – 750 years ago.
Good timeline in “Guns germs and Steel’. Polynesians only got to Hawaii between the 5th and 12th centuries with radiocarbon dating indicating around the 13th century and were ‘discovered’ by Europeans in the late 18th. (Imagine if they were delayed by a few centuries and arrived to find Europeans in possession, alternative history writers anyone?) Given the vast distance and lack of intermediate islands it would be difficult for Polynesians to arrive in enough numbers to establish a footing in the Americas (but given the Kon-Tiki experiment not insurmountable). Have Milo’s site bookmarked for his interesting perspectives.
In Europe, there is no such debate of who was there first. Atleast to western Europe it doesn’t matter.
Everyone is treated the same, in fact new comers have all, and in some cases more rights than the white first nations people of Europe.
If there’s privilege for the first arrivals, then there should be privilege for the second people, and then the third people, and so on.
This type discrimination has to end.
It certainly explains why Europe is doing so poorly, of course canaduh is not much better.
The only privelege the white populations had was hard work and a civil demeanour, something definitely missing in the welfare-scrounging second peoples.
If anything, the migration was in the opposite direction. Otherwise natives would be referred to as “earlier settlers.”
It’s naive to think there should be skeletal remains. Everyone now knows that thousands of native kids were buried at residential schools in the last 150 years, yet there are no skeletons.
I too have finished the internet:
“Whispering Death” – The Most Dangerous Motorcycle Ever Sold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1y_ZzGSD0k
A story that includes the NAZI scientists and East German defectors involved with the first 200hp/liter motorbike.
speaking of north america and dna evidence:
en dot wikipedia dot org/ wiki/ Native_American_people_and_Mormonism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_people_and_Mormonism
A reading from the book of Manitou.
In the beginning, there was Abenaki and Sioux.
Read a number of books on this sort of thing.
DNA is turning the conventional narratives of the last century upside down. Did people manage to navigate their way from Australasia to South America. Yep, no other possible explanation…except the one in which they migrated up through Asia, across the Bearing land bridge, and down into S. America, without leaving any trace of their DNA along the way. Which is absolutely ludicrous.
The Clovis people are supposed to have come across the Bearing, too. Identified by their unique form of arrow and spear tips. Problem is, no trace whatsoever of these unique tips have been found anywhere in Asia.
Where they have been found is in southern/south eastern Europe, made by the Solutrean people…virtually indistinguishable.
Then there’s Haplogroup X…another stick in the spokes.
Then there’s Virginia Steen-McIntyre…She proved by every scientific method in existence that the artifacts dug up at Hueyatlaco, Mexico dated to 130,000 BCE. For her troubles she was basically blacklisted, and ultimately left the profession in disgust.
Then there’s the Wallace Line that divides Australasia from western Indonesia, very deep waters that are only navigable by craft. So, how did people arrive in Australia 60,000 years ago?
And etc., etc., etc…
Oh, and if you want to read a book that kicks the hell out of just about everything you’ve been taught, there’s “The Hidden History of the Human Race”, a condensed version of “Forbidden Archaeology”.
the smithsonian institute was created to hide all previous evidence of history before europeans showed up.
They did a damn good job too ,,, any evidence was dumped into the oceans, good luck finding the truth
yeah. Because Custer was akchally fought…the French.at the Little Big Horn.
Maybe you read “The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America”, by Richard J. Dewhurst?
There’s an eyeopener! Essentially a collection of newspaper articles from the late 1700s to the early 1900s about what was found in ancient mounds across the US…skeletons, hundreds and hundreds of them, humans from 7 to 10 feet tall.
Interestingly enough, the Smithsonian…whom people felt it the right thing to do to call them in…can’t seem to find any of them in their storage facilities. None. Funny how that works, eh?
IMHO, corruption in science goes way beyond the climate change scam.
Most of the “indigenous” were savages so we (my ancestors) did humanity a favor by colonizing the continent. I consider anyone who objects to my take on this matter as “retarded”. That is all.
Colonial governments erased as much evidence of pre columbian civilizations in North America as possible.
We’re not alone in the cosmos, and certainly not on this planet. We’ve just forgotten
Thor Heyerdahl enters the chat.
yep. the balsa wood was getting waterlogged but the calculation was theyre within reach.
I’m going to set up an escort agency called “Thor Hiredoll”.
If this boat’s a rockin … don’t bother emigrating
I have to say “Yes and No”. We really do not know; certainly there have been many populations (in the migratory sense) of the Americas, over the past 50,000 years. Reasoned pursuit of historical fact is made very difficult by the modern “progressive” ideological movements, to the point that reality, artifacts and possibilities are ruled upon by The Party. No other authority is allowed.
Very much back in the day, remember reading an account of how a few boatloads of “immigrants” island-hopped from the south Pacific (presumably from South America) northward until they hit the Equator. Once over the Equator, they could see the North Star, the only star which does not move. As I recall, the boats stopped dead in their tracks for some days, until it was decided that this star was not malignant, and they could continue on.
Again, from what I understand, there is a good track of the colonization of the Pacific islands.
Newsflash…we all got here first
Evidence of the earliest peoples on the North, and South American continents can be found out on the edges of the continental shelves.
That’s where most of the groceries are. There used to be a very large Population Y in Calgary, but then they closed the Y.
We are all conquered people. Humanity ebbs and flows with time. The weak are assimilated, or if they refuse to assimilate, annihilated. This has been true since the dawn of time.
The First Nations complain that land they stole from there rivals was stolen from them by stronger adversaries. They claim injustice, but they were weak and unworthy in the clash of civilizations. Rather than assimilate, they resist, and slowly annihilate themselves.
Six different tribes populated/ruled the Black Hills of SD and WY in the last 500 years and they weren’t particularly nice about displacing the previous tribes, but somehow that’s OK because you know Indians do those sort of things naturally and its their “cultural heritage” whereas Europeans are so different and it’s a crime when they do that.. Whatever
FWIW
“First Denisovan Fossil Discovered in Taiwan Reveals Secrets of Our Ancient Relatives”
https://www.sciencealert.com/first-denisovan-fossil-discovered-in-taiwan-reveals-secrets-of-our-ancient-relatives
And different area
https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2025/04/13/neanderthals-into-africa-the-800kyr-impact/