SARS-CoV-2-naive vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% confidence interval [CI], 8.08–21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to unvaccinated.
Naturally acquired immunity confers stronger protection against infection and symptomatic disease caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 2-dose vaccine-indued immunity.
Dr. John Campbell- Natural immunity wins
Proof that the reptilian Bolsheviks and Jacobins responsible for the COVID Stalinism were not interested in following the science nor any level of transparency, honesty, ethics and respect of individual rights.
I came across a funny comment today: “I followed the science and found the money.” I am not sure where I saw this, but very apt.
Natural immunity beats vaccine. No kidding. That was an entirely predictable result. The vaccine only provides protection against the ever changing spike whereas natural immunity provides protection after contact with multiple places on the whole virus, including parts that can’t change or the virus is unable to replicate. The useless and deadly mRNA vaccine was obviously unfit for the purpose right from the beginning. Our government is out to kill us off. No one, even government bureaucrats, could be THAT incompetent.
I have seen some small studies (relating to side effects not efficacy) that make things look even worse for the third possible group not mentioned in this study.
That would be people who had Covid but recovered (and therefore had natural immunity) but then went and got the vax as well (like the government was pushing with their “we don’t know how long natural immunity will last “ crap).
That group appears to be even more likely to have adverse events from the vaccine than those who got the vax while never previously having gotten Covid.
So predictable that when they brought in the vaccine mandates and passes they ignored natural immunity, even knowing this. Many who had natural immunity were then excluded from a lot of things, some fired, and Sheila Annette Lewis recently died being refused an organ transplant as she would not get vaccinated (She HAD established that she had natural immunity).
That is why people pay attention now, as it testifies to the authoritarian nature of those determining these regulations.
At first, they were even denying that anyone could be immune to this virus. Early on, I read a post by a British Nobel winning virologist who predicted 30% of people would be totally immune to it and would not come down with the illness. I think I am in that group because I never even got a sniffle.
So they knew this over a year ago
They knew this before they even released the vaccine on the public!
* (just a side note. Your comments filter is a little screwy. I was placed in the “moderation queue” twice. Both times the comment was not posted. The third time I tried it, I was informed it was a duplicate).
There is nothing untoward in my comment. Thought you might want to know.
I found that if you post more than two links, your comment will automatically go to moderation. Even including only two links is pressing your luck.
Yep, the lies about natural immunity was one of the big red flags that let me know we were being manipulated. Along with crazy amounts of data manipulation and fear mongering.
Reading that natural immunity without vaccination is 13x better at preventing infection and 27x better at preventing symptomatic infection and then remembering the abuse, discrimination and segregation inflicted on those of us who choose to be unvaccinated…makes me really angry. The whole “we’ve lost patience with the unvaccinated” crowd needs to take responsibility for their appalling behavior.
At some point, there needs to be a formal apologiy and recognition of the abuse of people’s human rights. Politicians, public health and the media need to be accountable for their actions. Then reaffirm the commitment to bodily autonomy and human rights.
Yep, that was one.
Another big lie was that asymptomatic people could be “super-spreaders”, which flies in the face of everything that was known about viral infections prior to 2020.
Don’t even get me started on the Magical Thinking that is universal masking or “social distancing”…standing on dots at the grocery store or going one way up and down the aisles. Pure march-until-the-cargo-returns nonsense.
These things DID serve a useful purpose though. They helped the more perceptive among us quickly figure out that the health authorities were completely full of shit. Say nothing of the politicians and media talking heads.
Anyone who was comfortable with data analysis and the ability to do basic research plus a bit of common sense would have been able to see through the lies and absurdities of the covid response. I guess that’s why they demonized “doing your own research.”
Here’s a 3 minute video of a comedian, Jimmy Dore, mocking the covid authoritarian’s “dont ask questions, don’t do your own research.” nonsense.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0PM67hjv4iM&list=WL&index=7&pp=gAQBiAQB
I keep saying that the one silver lining in the Covid plandemic was that it had awaken a lot of people up, and the vast majority of the newly awakened were not exactly thrilled with what they were seeing with their eyes wide open.
We would have never heard of the WEF, and “you’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy, if we hadn’t been locked down by government’s brutally over-bearing, and manipulative policies to “flatten the curve.” It gave a lot of people reason to read and research, because we had nothing else better to do, except watching “overworked” nurses doing their choreographed dance numbers on tiktok.
LC Bennett, “At some point, there needs to be a formal apologiy and recognition of the abuse of people’s human rights. Politicians, public health and the media need to be accountable for their actions. Then reaffirm the commitment to bodily autonomy and human rights.”
Will you please let us know when to start holding our breath waiting for that to happen?
Ha. True. It takes honor, humility and integrity to admit you were wrong and harmed people. Politicians, the media and public health have none of those admirable traits.
And sadly the anti-swampist Trump got swamped by manipulative, criminal advice proving that he doesn’t have the street smarts of most people here at SDA.
Unstabbed, once infected Folks have been posting their antibody test results every 6 months on another blog I follow and all have robust antibody response still almost 2 years later.
Yep. Big Pharma and their minions ain’t got no time fo dat.
They told you that a new virus, naturally occurring, was so bad that tens of thousands of years of human’s own natural ability to develop immunity won’t work here. Half the population believed them a too many still do.
Monetizing your immune system – forever…
L – They’ve always known this. That is why Public Health(Fed/Prov.)
rejected testing what percentage of the population had acquired
immunity. This is done via a blood test for anti-bodies to Cov.-19.
Something individuals could get and pay for in the U.S. but were
denied doing so in Canada.
Dr. Bryam Bridle(vaccine researcher/teaches immunology Univ. of
Guelph) had a positive test for Cov-19 antibodies in his blood. After
providing evidence of that and to today. His university has refused
him permission to return to his office/lab on campus! He’s now
world famous outside of Canada for exposing the medical fraud.
But Canada still continues to be the Hermit Kingdom(North Korea)
of North America w/o both freedom of expression(speech) for it’s
citizens and the medical professions.
Vaccine induced immunity has never before been presented as
equal or superior to naturally acquired immunity. If testing of
the public, via sampling, had been done from the beginning
two facts would have emerged:
1. The vast majority of a significant and growing population
exposed to Cov-19 were neither dying, nor getting seriously ill.
2. The percentages of the population with naturally acquired
immunity by the time the gov’t. began to mandate experimental
mRNA injections, would refuse and the mandates would have
been overturned for a combination of scientific and political
rights.
3. The Charter of Rights violations via both Lockdowns and
Vaxx Mandates required massive censorship and a military
grade Psychological-Operation to create severe mass anxiety
(neurosis).
This not only among the general public but among the lower
level of judiciary in Queen’s/King’s bench courts. As appeals
to prov. Appeal and the S.C.C. require 3-5 years. Thus the
damage(injury/maiming/deaths) is already done. So we’re
in the cover-up phase, an attempt to rule the Charter
violations as moot e.i. Premier Peckford’s challenge based on
the Charter Right to travel in and out of and work in any area
of Canada. Ruled to be moot, the case can’t go ahead. Can’t
even be asked in a court of law in Canada.
Denying the efficacy of naturally acquired immunity was the
big gov’t. health agency lie that guaranteed Pfizer and Moderna
huge profits at the expense of truth, justice and the Canadian
way.
WTF is truth, justice and the Canadian way? Seems to me corruption, cowardice, and injustice are the Canadian way.
What happen to all these supporters for the CV shot. Remember these shots was the best thing since Jello.
I’m surprised they aren’t offering the genetic slurry as a new fall offering at 7-11, perhaps in Pumpkin Spike Latte.
That’s actually a good one. New this fall, get your pumpkin-spiced COVID shot.
I guess Pfizer and Fauci are giving all the money back.
I was assured by the doctor hired by my employer to push the vaccines that natural immunity wouldn’t give me protection.
Mind you he also said that the mRNA vaccines contained the actual spike protein, not the RNA instructions for the cells to produce the spike protein.
Those “doctors” should have their asses sued off.
I like to ask all the known people who got the shot “are you up to date…and will be getting the upcoming one?”…
To which they all have confirmed they are not up to date, and will not likely get the next one..
Their reasoning?? “Dont think i need it”… When i point out that was MY reasoning back when they were unfriending me, shunning me, telling other family members to avoid me….they just look blank faced or say “not the same!”…. I smile and wish them all the good health they might have left.
Im a much more solitary person now, and enjoying life for different reasons
I had covid in Oct. 2021 and was told in hospital (8 days stay) that I had antibodies for the previous variety of covid, had noticed a decline in taste and smell in the year prior, but nothing drastic and nothing like a seasonal flu which typically didn’t affect me too much in the past… I was told by the Edmonton area nurses and the specialist Dr. on site that I’d be better off with a jab or two.
I declined their offer of a jab, asked about ivermectin, and was told there were no reliable studies for that… I had read that having a jab after infection was perhaps worse than having multiple jab, and I’ve since read of studies that this has been shown to be true.
My taste slowly recovers still, my sense of smell is recovering more slowly, I wash out my nose multiple times each day, and take nothing else for this. Vitamins are for future care.
My standing offer of #pureblood semen loads at $3800 is still on offer. (no “offers” or “lowballing” me, I know what I’ve got here…)
My parent’s family in Regina, SK are all vaxed, none of my family (ex and 5 kids in the Calgary area mostly) are vaxed. Actually we’re quite anti-jab and the chance of any of us wearing a useless mask ever again is zero.
If I want to know my parent’s family’s opinion on anything, I’ll just watch CBC/CTV?Global for an hour some evening.
The family divide is real, we get along “well enough” as long as nobody mentions a select dozen topics where we’re both immovable.
The hospital is wrong about Ivermectin. Where it has been used, it gas been very effective. Mercola just reported on a study: https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2023/08/31/ivermectin-worked-peer-reviewed-study-proves-it.aspx
His stuff disappears quickly. You might have to check his archives.
We agree LindaL
I’m totally onboard with Ivermectin as well as being generally anti big gov’t. I actually thought while I was in the hospital that this may be one of those times I just need to shut up so as to not be jabbed at 2am …
others in my little circle of non-jabbed citizens had mentioned this concern as well.
Virus science before it was co-opted by political science and turned into science fiction:
1. Natural immunity is superior to vaccinations.
2. Vaccinations offer limited protection from the virus and serious disease.
3. Virus do, always have and always will mutate to more contagious less infectious, which may appear “worse.”
4. Vaccine mandates and lockdowns of healthy populations has never worked. We didn’t know that until someone was so callous and stupid to try them, but now that the collectivist virus is with us, where infections AND contagiousness increase, we know.
5. The priority is timely information and protection of vulnerables. China denied the first and incompetent statists the 2nd.
6. Vaccines have complications, especially improperly tested mRNA, so if you give it to low risks, like kids, you could hurt them.
7. Number one lesson learned is don’t let politicians decide science, or scientists decide policy, or apparatchiks decide anything.
Do the “vaccines” provide immunity? I am skeptical. I think it is becoming increasingly apparent that the vaccinated are particularly susceptible to Covid as well as quite a few other things. I do not think the effectiveness of the vaccines has ever been successfully proven. Impossible to do as they skewed the stats from the start by pretending that people were not vaccinated until several weeks after their shot. How convenient. That was also a time frame in which many people contracted Covid.
They were not now, nor ever will be vaccines. They provided zero immunity. The definition of vaccine was changed. All we had and still have are lies. The vaxxes have destroyed people’s immune systems, and killed tens of thousands in the U S anyone who says otherwise is a freaking liar. All who took the shots should be considered lab rats for ten years.
Some here think this is a damning indictment of COVID vaccines. Off hand I can think of many reasons why getting a disease will leave your immune system better prepared to ward of reinfection than a vaccine, and that goes for almost any disease.
Perhaps some think vaccines should be 100% effective in preventing infection, but that is almost never the case.
Maybe that’s why doctors haven’t made a big thing out of this paper despite it being published 16 months ago.
Or maybe because many of them have been caught with their pants down. These “vaccines” are absolute crap.
What is your evidence that these vaccines are “absolute crap”?
Because I can point to a lot of studies that say they are not.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(23)00015-2/fulltext
The majority of doctors nowadays are essentially pharmaceutical sales brokers. My wife had a front row seat to whole system, managing a pharmacy. But you keep doing you.
Hey KM. So IF something calling itself a VAX with a 24/7 bull-horned purpose to STOP THE SPREAD, REDUCE SYMPTOM SEVERITY and PREVENT HOSPITALIZATION works 1/13th, 1/27th AND 0/8th as well as NATURAL IMMUNITY someone who wasn’t a BUTTHEAD would call it a MASSIVE FAILURE and LIE. Throw in significant odds of severe side effects including PERMANENT DISABILITIES AND DEATH (I know multiple people that died from turbo-cancers not long after their jabs or had a condition like dementia suddenly become worse, or suddenly get diagnosed with a rare blood disease), the COORDINATED attack on EARLY TREATMENT THERAPIES, the utter silence on risk reducers like VITAMIN D and EXERCISE and it becomes GOV’T ENABLED GROSS NEGLIGENCE CAUSING HARM. Pure Evil, really. KM you’re really something when it comes to pissing into a storm of facts at every opportunity. But doing so isn’t making you smell better.
1. Use your inside voice.
2. The facts aren’t on your side. The vast preponderance of scientific evidence shows the vaccines are useful and fit for purpose.
3. Treatments like Vitamin D are grossly overrated. A recent survey of the scientific studies finds that there appears to be some benefit, but it’s not at all clear. Given that Vitamin D deficiency is quite common, it may just be a case that being physically fit gives you an advantage when battling any disease.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0268396
Hmm… sounds like your making “shit up”.
Oh well it is the internet.
You’re free to rebut. It is the internet.
@KM: None of what you present rebuts the article in this posting. What you are doing (a common fallacy today among the “science” set) is to present a counterfactual, and then declare that your side of the argument has won, merely because you present a dissenting case. When your opposition does the same back to you, they must be wrong. Heck they are conspiracy theorists. It’s OK, most scientists today are absolutely shite at logic and epistemology, because they stopped training them thoroughly in argumentation and philosophy (amd classical Latin as well) about 50 years ago.
Essentially you have ceased doing the science immediately after step two in the process.
It’s OK, you are clearly out of your league, but keep doing you. The rest of us will keep going with the scientific method, guided by sound argument practice.
Thank you for that parcel of ad hominems pointing out my logical fallacies.
So your argument is that we shouldn’t pay attention to the science because scientists are incompetent. My experience is that scientists are sometimes wrong, but on the whole competent and honest to a fault. Well I’m glad that we made our positions clear.
But if we aren’t to follow the science, why should we listen to John Campbell, who explains the results and ramifications of scientific papers? Or are we only to believe those studies that we wish were true?
And if we aren’t to follow the science, what should we follow? Personal observations? Gut instincts? Internet rumours?
My guess is that both wild-card positions in the western conference will be won by Pacific-division teams, and one of those will be the Canucks.
You may quote me on that unless I’m wrong. Then I’ll claim my account was hacked.
,@KM: None of your response to me is what I said. Not a single thing. You are an incompetent (maybe credentialed) buffoon.
Bye, goober.
You have not offered a single rebuttal to the points I made. Just insults. That’s all you have.
This suggests you have no sound reason for opposing vaccines except that all your buddies are doing it on internet. Pure tribalism. You’re just running with your herd.