The Flower of Ukraine

This was all avoidable.

Daily Mail- Conscripts are being given call-up papers on the beaches of Ukraine as Volodymyr Zelensky’s army suffers heavy losses

Like many of his male friends, Serhiy no longer leaves his home in western Ukraine for fear of being sent to the front line to replace soldiers killed or injured in the fight against Russia.

The construction worker spends his days hiding from military officials serving call-up papers at bars, beaches, checkpoints, malls and even church services.

As casualties mount on both sides, there was anger last week after Ukraine’s military revealed plans to bring in permits prohibiting men eligible for conscription from leaving the region where they are registered under martial law.

This restriction of movement for men aged 18 to 60 was criticised by President Volodymyr Zelensky and revoked, but it highlights the struggle for a nation suffering more than 20,000 casualties a month – officials admit up to 200 troops are killed and 800 wounded daily.

But the dumbest group of world leaders we’ve ever seen decided to play stupid games instead of honoring commitments.

75 Replies to “The Flower of Ukraine”

  1. Why do you think they (the Globohomo WEF Oligarchy) pulled out all the stops–by hook or crook–to get rid of Trump? Same reason they (the Globohomo WEF Oligarchy) are pulling them all out (including nuclear war) to get rid of Putin. Power.

  2. What’s Serhiy’s problem? Doesn’t he know that we are right behind him and willing to fight this war to the last Ukrainian? Now where’s my Ukrainian flag pin?

    1. Yup, and BlackFaceHitler is right there with him, actor to actor, in full support. Save for returning a turbine to RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA!

      Now, where did BFH put his fake Cowboy hat?

  3. So now it’s 200 killed a day. A week ago it was reported 100 were being killed every day. At some point, if the war isn’t ended soon, all will be dead – or wounded.

    But compared to the ‘old days’ where thousands might die in a single day, the ‘special operation’ is more like a series of skirmishes.

    1. No worries, they can all be sacrificed for Tranny Volodimir.

      He can escape to his $35Million mansion in Florida, HIS interests are looked after. Besides, Florida is still the cocaine capital of the US.

  4. With all due respect, if the US decided to invade Canada (go TRUMP 2024!!), wouldn’t you expect the healthy canadian males (the few that are left) to stand up and fight for your country?
    I would if somebody invaded the US. Of course I wouldn’t want to. Of course I’d be scared shiftless. Of course I’d worry about my family.

    They have to go to the beaches to find them? I don’t think they’ll get much out of those guys…..

    1. If the US invaded Canada I would be one of the first Canadians to welcome our liberators from the USA, so I could thank them.

      I would let others fight for the french language, high taxes, corrupt governance at every level of Government, the CRTC, the telecom racket, institutional racism , Omar Khadr, Juthtin Turdhole, Jagderp, the corrupt RCMP, etc. etc.

      You want to fight for Liberal/NDP party “values” then fill your boots. I personally prefer freedom from the corrupt State.

      1. Sean

        As would I with flowers in hand.
        Salvation…finally freed from a Bullshit supposed “country”

      2. “If the US invaded Canada I would be one of the first Canadians to welcome our liberators from the USA, so I could thank them.”

        Thanks from the US, but you wouldn’t want us the way we are right now. Trudeau might, though.

  5. Are we still standing with the Azov Battalion ?

    Why doesn’t the Anal Schwab Battalion that rules over Canada send over Turdholes horsefaced whore Melanie Joly and all those Liberal/NDP Party goons that trampled the human rights of the Trucker protesters ?

    Oh yeah, I forgot those “cops” are all cowards that enjoy trampling old ladies beating peaceful protesters and suppressing peoples human rights, not fighting armed men that can fight back, my bad.

    Still, if the nazi Azov Battalion needs “recruits” to die for Zalensky and Hunter Biden why not start with conscripting Juthtin Turdhole his whole cabinet Jagderp the moron all employees of Bell, Rogers, Shaw, send the whole Anal Schwab Battalion.

    They won’t be missed and Canada would be much better off.

    1. “Are we still standing with the Azov Battalion ?”

      Absolutely glory to heroes A3OB.
      No they do not accept conscripts, it is an entirely volunteer formation.

  6. Like so many wars, at the beginning it is played up to be a romp in the park. But when the body bags start arriving back home, public support sags pretty quickly.

      1. How so? Do you have independent oversight of the Russian body-count? And when you say “Russian”, are you counting the DPR/LNR losses as “Russian” or in the Ukrainian bodycount? Do we get to recognise DPR/LNR as part of Russia, then? Or only when it is convenient, and at other times they are still considered “Ukraine”?

        Just seems to be a lot of emotiating around. A lot more heat then light.

        1. I have news for you, there are very few men from DPR/LNR fighting. The ones that are involved are used as front line fodder. They are fighting under the Russian flag. It is a war crime to force someone to fight against your own country.

          Last I checked 3 countries on the planet recognize their independence. The rest know this is the usual Russian baloney. Even Kazhakstan agrees publicly.

          1. I have no idea how to corroborate anything you just said. It read like a work of dystopian fiction that flies in the face of any operational training I received in the Cold War.

            Can you provide confirmation from independent sources? And no, sorry, I am not accepting NATO “currency”, or anyone in its sphere of influence. So BBC/CNN/MSM/ISW/CIA/MI6 et. al can get effed. Those pricks lie constantly, about everything under the sun.

          2. Allah is a gorging consumer of all MSM propaganda.

            That said, this “war” is almost over, the Perogy pals have badly outplayed their hand. And Tranny Volod will soon by coking it up permanently in his Florida mansion, paid for by Biden.

        2. “Do you have independent oversight of the Russian body-count?”

          Funny you should ask. I am writing this not for you, as you’re an orc demagogue, but it is interesting information often not available in western sources so hopefully people will find it useful.

          First, russians do not count Luganda and Donbabwe loses among their own. They fight on russian side (not like they’re given a choice) they’re used as cannon fodder very often, but russians don’t count them to look good, even if russian contractors and advisers, that de facto run DPK and LPK units above company level, are made good, russians still don’t count them as russian loses.
          Second, russians do not count Wagner Group loses as their own.
          Third, they do not count Ossetians or Chechens loses as their own.
          Fourth, when in early stages, researchers started looking at obituary data we have learned official russian loses were about 40% of what real russian loses were. Hence Pootin, in his traditional manner, imposed censorship and limits on publication of obituaries. SOP for the SOB, he did the same thing when people started paying attention that orcs abort more of their litter than give life births to.

          Meanwhile if one of foreign volunteers (more than 26K of them came to Ukraine), or a policeman, or interior ministry dies they are all counted by Pootin’s propaganda machine, in order to inflate Ukrainian Army loses. Same happened when Siberians counted POWs, many of whom were civilians, often state employees, often just random, often those who were foolish enough to complain to Russian authorities about rape or looting. Yes, to this day marauding behavior, raping and pillaging is sanctioned and not punished in Russian forces for as long as soldats are fulfilling their duties. Yes, that is SOP too.

          Another interesting aspect is the ethnic make up of Siberian force. We see that Asians are heavily overrepresented. There is very little active recruitment happening in St Petersburg or Moscow. However, in the impoverished, decisively turd world, parts of Russia, recruitment is very heavy and people are being coerced in no uncertain terms to sign contracts. Again SOP, they were happy to sacrifice non ethnic russians during WWII as well.

          This happens during conscription, often right after basic, when a barely literate kid is given papers to sign, or else his family may get hurt.
          This happens in prisons, violent criminals all over russia got “get out of jail and straight onto front lines” cards.
          And this happens among retired military personnel, especially if they have front line specialization where russians suffered heaviest loses.
          And thus Pootin then gets to claim that all soldiers are contracted and not conscripted. Typical russian cynicism and maskirovka.

          Also worth considering is field medicine. Siberian is at WWII levels, they typically get four heavily wounded for each dead. Ukrainians have civilized levels and tend to get five to eight heavily wounded for each dead. A lot of those who would have died in Siberian forces get saved among Ukrainians. It also translated to severity of wounds. Wounds and injuries competent Ukrainian medical services are able to patch up and following recovery allow the soldier to comeback to the front. Those same wounds if inflicted on a russian are debilitating given Siberian 1970s level medical care and WWII level of front-line medical care.

          All in all Polish independent analysists like a well known author and researcher Jaroslaw Wolski estimate Ukrainian loses as 6.5K dead and 41 to 42K wounded. Which is about 13% of their forces after initial mobilization at the start of Siberian invasion. That is very substantial but not close to a defeat especially given the replacements domestic and abroad.
          Siberians on the other side, oh boy, at least 14K dad and at least 53K heavily wounded never to comeback to the front. Those are minimal estimates based on independent analysis. Realistically ,when you count those taken prisoner and those missing (say blown to pieces by Ukrainian arty and then eaten by dogs) the combined loses as of last week were around 75K. Which is close to a third of peace time cadre. And this does not count loses for Luganda, Donbabwe, Wagner, Ossetia, Chechens etc, Navy or Air Force.

          “are you counting the DPR/LNR losses as “Russian” or in the Ukrainian bodycount? … Or only when it is convenient, and at other times they are still considered “Ukraine”?

          This is exactly the kind of demagogy that makes a dead orc a good orc, this subhuman cynical attempt at wit combined with cheap rhetorical tricks while trying to cover for genocide.

      2. Allan -“not good for Putin “. I will tell you who it isn’t good for – young men – the same demographic it is always bad for-both sides. Putin will be just fine. How many times does it have to happen for you to catch on?

  7. The war would end quickly and the casualties stop if the west would simply stop sending weapons and munitions to a regime that will lose anyway. Want the killing to end? Pull all support from the Penis Pianist’s regime. Then he’ll have no choice but face the inevitable. Done.

    1. Ah, but this is the US’ proxy war against those horrible Ruskies. The DeMarxist Neo-con coalition can’t let go of its Cold War mindset.

      This has been shaped since 2014, though they had to be discreet during the Trump years. Now their NWO plan is full speed ahead, though they underestimated Putin’s resolve.

      Azov Volod is just a useful idiot actor, appealing to all the other useful idiots, and will be tossed away when no longer serving their needs.

    2. Ah yes stop fighting so they can go on a killing raping and plundering spree. How silly to resist that!

        1. Just look at history. Holodomor is a good example.

          Last I checked there were 15,000 cases of Russian war crimes opened.

          1. alla ASSholio
            and again you fail at context. So do you wonder why I just slag you and call you names? You are too stupid to have a reasonable debate with. You bias is always in the wrong direction, on every topic you insert yourself into!

          2. By that metric, I’ll see your Holodomor and raise you a Holocaust. When do we start bombing Germany and Western Ukraine? For their mass murders of Jews, Gypsies and Poles in the 1940s?

          3. “When do we start bombing Germany …”

            Maybe when Germans invade Poland to do that again? Until then don’t try logic. It is clearly not your forte.

      1. Go f*ck yourself, you cowardly armchair general. Tell me, what national interest do western countries have in a shithole place like Ukraine?

        1. Thucy +++++++++++/,\
          Nothing but Fktard regurgitated MSM Bullshit…as always from ASSHOLIO.

          1. I love how none of you Broshevicks dismisses the opening Dily Mail article as MSM propaganda. All of a sudden MSM is a ok.

      2. The moment someone starts calling someone else names and gets all dramatic and raggy is the moment I dismiss that person as not having sufficient emotional maturity to be considered a relevant adult. Or as my fiancé’s dad says, he’s no Major Dude.

        1. I agree. The standards of discourse at SDA have utterly collapsed. It is feeling more and more like Twitter.

          1. You’re right, you should not have came here.
            You should leave.
            Orcs don’t belong among humans.

          2. Above is an example of what I’m talking about. This person’s opinion is of low value as they are too emotional and consistently resort to name calling. Just present rational arguments and leave it at that. No need for pejoratives. No need for drama. Do that and you will build respect for your opinions. Even among those that may disagree with you.

          3. I am so glad you have found an example. Funny how the examples you find only go in one direction. Oh what a white knight you are.

  8. Ukrainians are fighting for their country, for their freedom, and for their culture. They know a campaign of russification occurs everywhere that Russia conquers. Russia is just attempting what other have tried for centuries: to suffocate the Ukrainian identity. Stalin failed. The Russian empire failed

    Meanwhile Russians are fighting for a short man’s ego. Pay close attention to what Russia is doing:

    – suppressing any attempts to call it a war. “Special operation ” my ass
    – heavily recruiting volunteers outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg. We know this because of where the Russian deaths are from. Very few in those areas compared to the more isolated eastern regions
    – Volunteering has shifted to voluntolding through sneaky measures in areas outside those two cities.
    – pushing propaganda for years that there are Nazis in Ukraine that need to be extinguished
    – pushing propaganda for 8 years that there is a genocide of “ethnic Russians” in the east. This is so far from the truth its not funny.
    – non stop bombardment of how Russia singlehandedly saved the world from Nazis during the “Great patriotic war”. It really is next level.

    Why you ask? Putin may be ignorant of the history of Ukraine, but certainly not Russia. He is sh|t scared of doing nationwide forced service. He knows that would do him under, so he avoids it at all costs. He does know Russians wouldn’t stand for it, and he also knows what happens when the populace revolts against it. See: 1915-1918, there were a couple of things that happened in the 1800s too.

    But when did it work? During the great patriotic war against the Nazis!

    1. Why is the west involved? Why? We have no business backing a corrupt regime running one of the most corrupt nations on Earth. I really don’t give a f*ck what the Russians and the Ukes do to each other. They can wipe each other out for all I care. But Canada needs to stay the hell out of it.

      1. Wow it’s 1939 over again. Go ahead and look up what Hitler did with Sudetenland. Almost mirror image of what Putin is doing. At least Hitler was happy with Sudetenland right?

        1. We’ve bled enough fields in Europe.

          We’re done.

          No one cared about Georgia or Ukraine until someone’s financial interests were involved.

          Putin’s vanity war only matters to wealthy elites in the West. They don’t care about the Ukrainians.

  9. Russia will eventually decimate what’s left of the Ukraine. Half the planet buys their resources and there’s nothing the US can do about it. Doe’s anyone besides the armchair generals think that the Eastern (significantly ethnically Russian) Ukraine is worth dying for? The bankrupt western welfare states are all destroying their own economies with green theocracy and can’t even supply the rapidly depleting Ukrainian conscripts with enough modern weaponry nor should they. Zelensky’s only hope is that Biden or some other NATO moron blunders into a larger conflict to draw Russian forces elsewhere.

    1. John
      This war,” look squirrel “, while the west destroys themselves for the WEF plan to reduce the population to 1/2 billion.

      1. Ah yes the WEF joos have shed their lizard skin and put their plan into action.

        Have they launched the stealth chemtrail planes that turn us all gay yet?

  10. I’m just constantly amused at how the anti war left can do an about face and become the pro war left in an instant. They’ve evidently found a cure or treatment for cognitive dissonance. Maybe that’s what’s in the “vaccine”?

  11. My initial enthusiasm for the uke’s chances has been tempered by the reality of fighting the ruskies. Odds were long from the outset but you gotta like the uke’s pluck.

    The support from the uke’s ‘friends’ has waned, considerably. The eurotrash and their friends have come to the realization that they need oil and gas – lots of oil and gas. The ruskies hold the key to the re-election to most of the free world. Energy prices stay at current levels and all these guys will be looking for work.

    So I think the fix is in. The war will come to an end as the wanton destruction cannot be allowed to continue. The uke’s will have to face up to the fact that they have been abandoned by their ‘friends’. Putin will agree to some kind of ceasefire with terms (the retention of east Ukraine) he has no intention of living up too. He will turn the oil and gas taps on because he needs the cash.

    The west, out of guilt, will agree to some kind of Ukraine Marshall Plan and things will return to normal…whatever that may be. The cowardice of the eurotrash the Bong and Biden has been on display for all to see. And lets single out the Germans for special treatment. Bastards.

  12. “This was all avoidable.”

    Yes, especially in late 1940s, Van Neumann should have been listened to.

  13. When you read the comments of the Stand with Ukraine folk, its easy to see that they care not a fig about Ukrainians, but are rather motivated by blind unreasoning hatred of all things Russian.

    1. Yes, you would oh so humanly sentence 40+ millions to slavery because something Soros/Davos/ WEF/globohomo/reptilians. So principled.

  14. To say that your pro-Russia standpoint is morally vapid and distasteful would be a massive understatement. Canadians and Americans of your grandparents generation would be ashamed of you. Apparently this, the ability to feel shame, is something that has not only been lost on the Left. In the fight of Good against Evil, you stand on the sidelines making snarky remarks.

    1. Canadians and Americans of my grandparent’s generation would have been cheering on Russian victories on the eastern front as surely as they did other Allied victories on the western front.

  15. Re: “But the dumbest group of world leaders we’ve ever seen decided to play stupid games instead of honoring commitments.”

    Which commitment? Do you mean the Budapest Memorandum of 1994 whey the Ukraine agreed to surrender its nuclear weapons arsenal (larger than the combined arsenal of France, China and the UK) for territorial guarantee. Don’t you think the Ukrainians would like those weapons back now.

  16. I can’t believe there are even two sides to this discussion.

    If you don’t see Putin’s barbaric unjustified invasion of Ukraine as something that every freedom loving person on the planet should be combating, then you are definitely someone who would have applauded the German aggression of the 30’s and 40’s.

    I just returned from Ukraine and can tell you that the stories of Russian atrocities are no lies. Some towns were simply obliterated, wholesale looting is occurring and the need for post-HIV exposure meds are great due to the sexual assaults perpetrated by Russian troops on both men and women.

    The Russians may end up keeping a chunk of Ukraine and no one should condone that. History will show that the entire free world should have done everything in its power to support the Ukrainian people in stopping the Russian invasion.

    1. “I can’t believe there are even two sides to this discussion.”

      A position typical of leftoids and Stand With Ukraine Soros bots.

      Now its “All the Russians have VD!!”
      You people are as predictable as snow in winter.

    2. “I can’t believe there are even two sides to this discussion.”

      I agree, apart for a few Kremlin bots, you get a lot of people who genuinely believe Pootin is a good guy fighting against globalists and NAZIs. These people will have a rude awakening sooner or later. They remind me of US elites who even during WWII refused to believe in Holocaust.

    1. There aren’t any. There are only victims of deplorable states engaged in war. War is the health of the state and this one was very much initiated as a result of tribal hatred, other states, other times, and their alliances.

    2. Loo at people defending their country, their culture and their way of living from a barbarian rapist horde. It really isn’t hard to figure out who they are.

    3. “I keep trying to find the Good Guys in this fight.

      Still looking . . .”

      Me too. The Ukrainian atrocities are no more excusable than the Russian ones, to me.

      And since Russia=Canada and Ukraine=Quebec in this conflict, I’m having a hard time generating any sympathy for either side. The simplistic MSM narrative of Evil Putin attacking innocent, virtuous Ukrainians “without provocation” (yeah, right) doesn’t make it any easier.

      STAY OUT OF IT. In this *particular* situation, you can’t win, and you know it. You can only get more Ukrainians killed.

      1. “And since Russia=Canada and Ukraine=Quebec in this conflict,…”

        In what version of reality? This is the silliest comparison one can come up with.
        Besides there are no Ukrainian atrocities.

      2. But that’s exactly what Russia wants you to believe.

        There is NO 8 year genocide in the east.

  17. What foolishness.

    In the generality Russians are and have been an astonishingly cultured people.

    1. LOL, another delusion, 25% of russians don’t even have indoor pumbing, they have the highest abortion rates in the world. What culture produces that?

      1. You’re worse than a rabid Moslem libeling Jews.

        Russia has a robust space program, in fact, for years America and Europe needed to hitch rides to the ISS with Russia, not to mention lots of literary and scientific giants.

        1. Space exploration has nothing to do with culture shortbus.

          Also, why don’t you compare their satellite network over Ukraine to NATO’s? Get back to me when you do.

          Oh and truth is not Libel.

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