1998 John Deere 7810 with 914 Hours Sold for $170,000.00USD
29 Replies to “Sold!”
I remember when that would buy a brand new combine and a pickup. Gonna drive everyone back to an agrarian society. But with 5 times the population.
Glad I bought a few acres of land many years ago. Food prices are about to go crazy.
Land is always a great investment. Cracks me up when people buy a couple acres and think when the you know what hits the fan they’ll have it made. (Not you, johnboy) People need to practice with whatever they do. Learn from failures. Gardening is one big experiment. An acquaintance said they’ll just plant some seeds, water then have vegi’s. I almost laughed at their ignorance. Fruit trees take years to produce. Berries, too. Yadda Yadda. Same with animals and learning how to butcher. My problem is my tractor is a 1952 Oliver with a front loader. Runs like a charm but the bucket is rusted but can still shovel snow.
WTF?
Low hours on 23 yr old tractor, 40hrs/yr.
Less $ than new unit?
http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/tractor-brands/johndeere/johndeere-tractors.html
According to this site when new, that tractor would have sold for 80000.00 so the farmer doubled his money and had the use of the tractor for 20 plus seasons.
Farmers like these older well cared for units. There is none of that electronic crap to shut down the tractor just when you need it. None of those strict emission standards that constantly malfunction when you need the tractor and the tractor is not on back order with an arrival time; who knows?
There she is boys ready to work.
For something like a tractor, I would have thought you design it so that it can still be operated in the event of some failures. If engine control, power sterring, automatic tail hook or whatevr, ECU failed, you could still run it to get in the harvest while awaiting spare parts.
I wish you were in charge of design at the manufacturers.
The hour Meyers on these birds only go to four digits. Thus they are advertised as “900 hours showing” or 900 hours on the meter.
I expect it had 10900 hours.
The price is insane . Period.
Nope…. The differences between a 400hr tractor and a 10,400 hour tractor are obvious.
I own one of that series.
The farmer doubled his money, but that money doesn’t buy even half as much as it used to.
Doubling your money over 23 years is 3% inflation. So he got his money back. The gain plus depreciation will be taxed, of course (might have other items to offset).
Some older tractors are made better and like said above, you don’t have a bunch of fuel mandates that mess you up or stupid electronics.
“According to this site when new, that tractor would have sold for 80000.00 so the farmer doubled his money and had the use of the tractor for 20 plus seasons.”
He’s also going to have to pay capital gains on $90,0000 even though in reality he came out $50,000 ahead. Isn’t capital gains 50% of the gross profit? If that’s the case he cleared a measly $5000.
Check out the farm equipment dealers lots. New tractors are getting spread thin. Same as auto industry and Deere is on strike. Company probably figures cheaper way to defer costs than laying off workers
Getting the employees to go on strike is an old tactic.
Crimeny ! Jeremy Clarkson’s Lamborghini R8 Tractor is only $60,000.00 +/- used.
It sold at a bargain price. This tractor still has just as many hours left in it as a new one sitting on the lot.
+ cheaper parts
+ easier/simpler repair (no EPA add ons or fancy electronics)
+ strength and weaknesses well known; also service shortcuts/hacks.
+ more dependable winter after winter
(I’m not directly familiar with the 7810, but am basing this on what I see of the one the neighbors ran and older vs new tractors in general)
Not just easier to repair, but you can actually repair. John Deer is REALLY behind the corporate lockdown on the ability to repair stuff you buy. You have to take it to an authorized John Deer repair facility, because only they have the digital unlock keys to enable repair.
you mean an old fashioned mostly mechanical unit that can be fixed by the farmed rather than having to wait (and pay for) a John Deere Technician to show up with all his computers and fancy doodads?
yeah, probably worth a lot to the right person who spent a bunch of money on his new john deere just to have it sit because some chip when bad and it has a 270 day back order.
If a tool can be serviced by its user, it can and will last as long as it has a user willing to take the time to maintain it.
Your typical manufacturer of heavy machinery today is a loan shark who pretends to sell heavy machinery, designed to reach the end of its useful life the day the luckless customer finishes paying for it.
The shortage of badly-made heavy machinery has robbed the loan sharks of their pretext to get suckers to go into debt.
^^ Exactly right ^^
Twat,(AKA: strapon) when you haven’t a clue, STFU!
At an auction a year or two ago my brother sold a 180 hp Case or International tractor for $ 2,000 less than he paid for it after 25 years of use.
Well the tractor has not changed in 20 years.
Sure wish we could say the same of our dollar.
How much of this is self-inflicted by Deere crippling their vehicles with tech.
How hard would it be to take a modern tractor – one hobbled by electronic controls and designed to generate revenue from parts and maintenance – and make it entirely electro-mechanical? Could it be done? And if electronic controls are absolutely necessary, how hard would it be to pull out the proprietary computers and replace them with Raspberry Pi’s running open source software? We’re going to reach a point where that will have to be done – how hard would it be? Ignore the legal question of how hard Deere and others would make it – how hard are the mechanics of it?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14075867
According to some of the comments here JD developed their electronic components from open source software.
From what we’ve seen electronic engine controllers CPU boards etc. are seldom the source of most downtime with farm equipment. Like the big rigs running on our highways many problems center around malfunctioning emission control systems and the more prosaic common stuff like wiring and electrical problems, alternators starting motors and so on.
To avoid downtime, some farmers, of course none that I know, will delete the emission stuff from brand new equipment.
I remember when that would buy a brand new combine and a pickup. Gonna drive everyone back to an agrarian society. But with 5 times the population.
Glad I bought a few acres of land many years ago. Food prices are about to go crazy.
Land is always a great investment. Cracks me up when people buy a couple acres and think when the you know what hits the fan they’ll have it made. (Not you, johnboy) People need to practice with whatever they do. Learn from failures. Gardening is one big experiment. An acquaintance said they’ll just plant some seeds, water then have vegi’s. I almost laughed at their ignorance. Fruit trees take years to produce. Berries, too. Yadda Yadda. Same with animals and learning how to butcher. My problem is my tractor is a 1952 Oliver with a front loader. Runs like a charm but the bucket is rusted but can still shovel snow.
WTF?
Low hours on 23 yr old tractor, 40hrs/yr.
Less $ than new unit?
http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/tractor-brands/johndeere/johndeere-tractors.html
According to this site when new, that tractor would have sold for 80000.00 so the farmer doubled his money and had the use of the tractor for 20 plus seasons.
Farmers like these older well cared for units. There is none of that electronic crap to shut down the tractor just when you need it. None of those strict emission standards that constantly malfunction when you need the tractor and the tractor is not on back order with an arrival time; who knows?
There she is boys ready to work.
For something like a tractor, I would have thought you design it so that it can still be operated in the event of some failures. If engine control, power sterring, automatic tail hook or whatevr, ECU failed, you could still run it to get in the harvest while awaiting spare parts.
I wish you were in charge of design at the manufacturers.
The hour Meyers on these birds only go to four digits. Thus they are advertised as “900 hours showing” or 900 hours on the meter.
I expect it had 10900 hours.
The price is insane . Period.
Nope…. The differences between a 400hr tractor and a 10,400 hour tractor are obvious.
I own one of that series.
The farmer doubled his money, but that money doesn’t buy even half as much as it used to.
Doubling your money over 23 years is 3% inflation. So he got his money back. The gain plus depreciation will be taxed, of course (might have other items to offset).
Some older tractors are made better and like said above, you don’t have a bunch of fuel mandates that mess you up or stupid electronics.
“According to this site when new, that tractor would have sold for 80000.00 so the farmer doubled his money and had the use of the tractor for 20 plus seasons.”
No he didn’t. When adjusting for inflation that same tractor would cost $122,000 new according to the Bank of Canada inflation calculator.
https://www.bankofcanada.ca/rates/related/inflation-calculator/
He’s also going to have to pay capital gains on $90,0000 even though in reality he came out $50,000 ahead. Isn’t capital gains 50% of the gross profit? If that’s the case he cleared a measly $5000.
Check out the farm equipment dealers lots. New tractors are getting spread thin. Same as auto industry and Deere is on strike. Company probably figures cheaper way to defer costs than laying off workers
Getting the employees to go on strike is an old tactic.
Crimeny ! Jeremy Clarkson’s Lamborghini R8 Tractor is only $60,000.00 +/- used.
https://www.driving.co.uk/news/jeremy-clarkson-bought-lamborghini/
It sold at a bargain price. This tractor still has just as many hours left in it as a new one sitting on the lot.
+ cheaper parts
+ easier/simpler repair (no EPA add ons or fancy electronics)
+ strength and weaknesses well known; also service shortcuts/hacks.
+ more dependable winter after winter
(I’m not directly familiar with the 7810, but am basing this on what I see of the one the neighbors ran and older vs new tractors in general)
Not just easier to repair, but you can actually repair. John Deer is REALLY behind the corporate lockdown on the ability to repair stuff you buy. You have to take it to an authorized John Deer repair facility, because only they have the digital unlock keys to enable repair.
you mean an old fashioned mostly mechanical unit that can be fixed by the farmed rather than having to wait (and pay for) a John Deere Technician to show up with all his computers and fancy doodads?
yeah, probably worth a lot to the right person who spent a bunch of money on his new john deere just to have it sit because some chip when bad and it has a 270 day back order.
Two is one. One is none.
It may be a John Deere, but does it go putt-putt?
John Deere ‘D’ At Work
If a tool can be serviced by its user, it can and will last as long as it has a user willing to take the time to maintain it.
Your typical manufacturer of heavy machinery today is a loan shark who pretends to sell heavy machinery, designed to reach the end of its useful life the day the luckless customer finishes paying for it.
The shortage of badly-made heavy machinery has robbed the loan sharks of their pretext to get suckers to go into debt.
^^ Exactly right ^^
Twat,(AKA: strapon) when you haven’t a clue, STFU!
At an auction a year or two ago my brother sold a 180 hp Case or International tractor for $ 2,000 less than he paid for it after 25 years of use.
Well the tractor has not changed in 20 years.
Sure wish we could say the same of our dollar.
How much of this is self-inflicted by Deere crippling their vehicles with tech.
How hard would it be to take a modern tractor – one hobbled by electronic controls and designed to generate revenue from parts and maintenance – and make it entirely electro-mechanical? Could it be done? And if electronic controls are absolutely necessary, how hard would it be to pull out the proprietary computers and replace them with Raspberry Pi’s running open source software? We’re going to reach a point where that will have to be done – how hard would it be? Ignore the legal question of how hard Deere and others would make it – how hard are the mechanics of it?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14075867
According to some of the comments here JD developed their electronic components from open source software.
From what we’ve seen electronic engine controllers CPU boards etc. are seldom the source of most downtime with farm equipment. Like the big rigs running on our highways many problems center around malfunctioning emission control systems and the more prosaic common stuff like wiring and electrical problems, alternators starting motors and so on.
To avoid downtime, some farmers, of course none that I know, will delete the emission stuff from brand new equipment.
Bullshit