123 Replies to “Art Of The Deal”

    1. Trudeau is playing a game of misdirection when he talks about the tariffs, or he is simply a typical liberal with a petrified brain- probably the latter.

      It is clear that for Trump, nothing is better than growth, growth, growth. He is, by far, the most growth oriented president since Reagan, and he personally leads the effort. If Harper were still in, the headlines would be about a new era of Canada-US cooperation, and deals would be struck that would leverage Canada’s and the US’s strengths in mutually beneficial ways. US growth was just revised to 4.8% ! If a competent government took over in Ottawa, I imagine Canada would shortly see a spike in growth bigger than that, with blue skies, ahead. But, the Liberal’s contemptible program has not faced serious competition, so the stagnation will continue at home, while Justin continues serving as pool boy for the Euros in their losing fight against Trump’s international leadership. Does he really think This is a worthy role for a premier?

      Can’t anyone on the conservative side string together enough sentences to actually say that the trump administration may represent great opportunity for Canada? Or are they as stupid and faithless as the Liberals?

      1. Growth has continued to be mediocre under Trump, and will get worse with his idiotic trade policies in place.

  2. No. We do not. Canada has EXACTLY the government we deserve. Enjoy the country that voting for Joe who, Mulroney, two Trudeaus, Chretien, Turner, Campbell, Martin, Harper, has got you.

    Enjoy the country that NOT picking Mad Max got you. I think that was actually the last chance, and Bernier was the only choice. Scheer ain’t gona build a pipeline. Prime minister Horgan won’t. PM Horwath? PM Wynne? PM Notely? Cause who did you think Canada was going to pick next time.

    Only socialists care; that is why they get the votes and wreck the places they rule. Because they care so much; that is why they always have death camps; because caring.

    1. Absolutely. Government “care” is a euphemism for control. Canadians increasingly just can’t take care of themselves and the few that can are being disabled by the government.

    2. Agreed about Mad Max. He would already have the bouldozers rolling; he’d respond agressively to this US charge, not whimper in the corner. We need Mad Max.

      1. If you had a leader like Mad Max, I doubt that Canada and the USA would be having this trouble in the first place.

        1. Especially if Max would’ve brought his girlfriend to the negotiations with Trump!

    3. Nailed it Kevin.
      Canada. Old Seneca word meaning “land of crying papoose”.

    4. Right on, Kevin. We voted for it, and now we are getting what we voted for. Good and hard.

      Maybe next time some of you “I’m destroying my ballot in protest” idiots will think about the consequences of that. You don’t like Scheer? Think he’s a wuss? To bad, baby! You get Scheer or you get Shiny Fricking Pony. That’s how it works.

      1. I’ll take Trudeau, then. That way we’re *that* much closer to getting someone actually right of center, Canada-first and will stop pandering to everyone else in the world. You need to burn down this left-wing paradise in order to get someone worth voting *for*.

        1. Da roof, da roof, da roof os on fire..

          Agreed. Letting it all burn down is the only thing we can do. The pain will be intense, but it will pass, and it will be short. Delaying the inevitable, you get the same pain, but it lasts longer. Much longer.

    5. Gotta hand it to some of the “conservatives” here, burying Sheer more than a year from an election.

      Keith Martin told me once Conservatives eat their own.

      Too bad that enables the socialism they claim to disdain.

      Mad Max types are not far removed from Hillary’s I was robbed tour, just a cant to the right.

      Please get over it unless you want the hair tank in charge of the partition of this fine nation.

      1. Shamrock: You are so right GET OVER IT!! We as Canadians need to get behind Scheer and make sure Trudeau is voted out in 2019!! If we don’t get behind the Conservatives you might as well so long to CANADA. TRUDEAU is out to destroy the Canada we know and turn it over to the The One World Gov’t with UN ruling us along with Soros people…BUTT’S.

      2. Everyone ignores Scheer. He is never on CBC, Fox, Rebel; he is completely invisible.

        Just like no one writes books about the unicorn menace, no one ever talks about Scheer. That means, Scheer is irrelevant.

        Compare that with Trump. They talk about Trump every minute of every day, in every newsroom in the world. This means that Trump matters.

        People who matter, are not safe to ignore. If you feel safe ignoring someone…

  3. A couple of things:
    1. When Pot Boy opened his mouth during the US Presidential election, someone should have told him Trump bears a grudge. I cringed when that happened and can understand why he gets little respect in the US.
    2. Regarding the Canadin government reasoning for the retaliation measures, that they target key electoral constituancies in the up-coming mid-term elections, I can only wonder at the wisdom of this, given the current US hysteria about foreign interference in US elections.

    1. Exactly.

      Bongo shit the bed when he backed pantsuit. He didn’t have sufficient manners or the brains to not comment on another countries election. Stupid!

      He’s in trouble and he knows it that is why he is in the US begging for spots on CNN etc. Bet butthole didn’t call Hannity asking for airtime.

    2. If Pot Boy does what you mentioned like you said, foreign interference in US elections…maybe POT BOY could end up jail. Pot Boy had better think about what he is doing lessons from Obummer, maybe the 2 of them in jail…HURRAAAY!!!!!

  4. So, if Trudeau was not our PM, how should Canada react to the US trade negotiators?
    1. Stop the flow-through of steel, etc., if that is happening. If not, pretend.
    2. Kill the marketing boards.
    3. Support N American content in automobiles, point out the unified industry it is.
    4. Stop toadying up to China.
    5. Boost the Canadian orange juice industry (OK /sarc).
    6. Regarding softwood, etc. Canada is chock-a-block full of resources, develop them. The US will still buy.

    1. Diversify our economy away from its dependence on the USA. Build a west-coast pipeline and start exporting LNG and crude to other parts of the world.

      1. You’re an idiot. “Gee, let’s do what we can to not trade with the most industrialized, richest (even in fiat money), and most consumer nation the world has ever seen. Things can only get better!!”

        1. The US accounts for a smaller and smaller slice of the world economy. It will likely be smaller still after Trump and his tariffs have trashed the US economy.

  5. He is a poor negotiator if he DOES NOT KNOW that the buck stops with Trump. Wonder how the bi-lateral agreements with U.S.A. will go now that NAFTA is trashed. What a show, our P.M. is insulted !

    1. Nancy Ross: I am so embarrassed to be Canadian after what Trudope said about Trump. Trudope is the f*cking idiot!! He is a very poor negotiator his pretty face and soooo lovely hair didn’t get him what he wanted….selfie anyone!!! VOTE THE LIE BRAL GOV’T OUT IN 2019!!!!

  6. I always thought trade was a security issue the same as immigration. But then I remembered Canada’s not a country any longer according to the little potato.

  7. It’s interesting that at times like these liberals start talking about the world wars and fighting shoulder to shoulder. Trudeau would NEVER provide Canadian troops to a military effort, so a big part of why we have a great relationship with the US is not relevant under his progressive social justice agenda. The president has every right to make this move, there is really no such thing as the Canadian steel industry other than importing from China.

    1. Not only would he not pull Canada’s weight in defense spending but he likely would be a draft dodger the same way his father was. He is less than a lightweight.

      Canadians have lived good lives since WWII by playing on their grandfather’s and father’s war time service. To be fair the
      response to a industrial strategy was centralizing production, specifically auto, in Ontario and Quebec. 100’s of Billions $’s. Well how did that work out? A huge wave of entitlement swept this country and the chickens are coming home to roost. Trump is playing hardball for his citizens. The USA has opened their markets to the world post WWII as a global security measure. Much of this policy no longer garners enough benefit to continue it.

      Modern weaponry eliminates the need. The USA allies have benefited from access at low cost and stiffed the Americans by not pulling their weight by funding their military. Uncle Sam does not want to pay the bills anymore.
      Unfortunately, Canada, a wannabe country could be in for very hard times. Acknowledged Federal debt of $660 billion and provincial debt of at least the same amount. Crown corp debt and unfunded promises. Consumer debt in excess of $2 trillion. Unwittingly or maybe on purpose Trump could trigger a Canadian fiscal crisis every bit as bad as 2009. I am sure Trump has been in similar deals where his debt left him very vulnerable. He knows how to play this negotiation.

    2. I find it highly nauseating when Trudeau invokes WW2, the conflict that HIS Father avoided while millions of other Canadians joined up. The sonofadraftdodger relies on the millenials lack of knowledge of history.

      Not once has Trudeau mentioned supply side management, the major sticking point with Trump.I guess the Quebec cartel still holds a great deal of power in this Country.

      1. Libranos always seem to invoke the same Canada that the Libranos legislated out of existence… why not invoke the artificial Trudopian empire, the “post national state” of anti Americanism, ethno tribal nationalism and ‘peacekeeping”? The old Canada Justard is referring to had a different flag a different national anthem it was officially an English language nation and it was a Parliamentary Democracy unlike Trudopia. Justard’s Daddy and the Libranos obliterated the Canada he now invokes, scumbag… Justurd is historically illiterate a colossal embarrassment and a damn fool.

  8. Pretty rich from the boy who’s first contact with President Trump was to tell him Canada was abandoning our allies and pulling the CF-18’s out of the war. Yep, Canada’s back, and Trudeau is leading from far, far, behind.

  10. Thanks Toronto. I hope your soyboy sprinkle socks is impressing you all, cause if he isn’t, surely his hand picked sparkles negotiator Freeload must be. Sending these dolts to negotiate for Canada, with the titans of US business like Wilbur Ross, Lighthizer etc, is like backing Pee Wee Herman in a Mike Tyson vs Pee Wee boxing match. Itths the ah ah Canadian way.

  11. No, Trump doesn’t care about Canada. Or Mexico. If Mexico falls into communist hands, that’s what that border wall is for—to keep them penned in and expedite lawn-mowing with minimal risk to American civilian lives. Works like a charm in Israel—and don’t forget Mexico is about as beyond redemption as Gaza, short of replacing its population with civilized people.

    So what do the globalists have left? What they’re working on now—another controlled demolition of the global financial system, the detonator being completely unnecessary hikes in global interest rates. That’s how they saw off George W. Bush and replaced him with the House Boy. That’s how they plan to get rid of Trump and replace him with another telegenic puppet.

    We’ll see if it works or not, but the disintegration of the Canadian banks that finance Librano campaigns—and the collapse of the housing market, the only source of growth east of Manitoba— will be collateral damage. If the globalists have to sacrifice the Libranos to save their own stinking hides, they won’t so much as blink an eye. Trump doesn’t care about Canada. Neither do the globalists.

    Either way, the Libranos are done—this time for good—and Justin’s and Chrystia’s career is over. Only questions now are:

    1. How soon we’ll hear Justin explain to the court—at his sentencing—what he thought he was playing at trying to sell Canada to the globalists, Islamists and communists, and their children to perverts and paedophiles.

    2. How soon Chrystia will have her fraudulent Canadian citizenship revoked and be put on a plane home, to stand trial for aiding and abetting enemies of the Russian Federation, globalist and Islamist alike.

    Ukraine Allahu Akbar, Chrystia. Ukraine Allahu Akbar.

    1. ” Mexico is about as beyond redemption as Gaza”

      Mexico is rapidly growing richer, and will be an increasingly important country with time.

  13. Liar. The issue is not Canadian made steel. The issue is steel made in countries other than Canada and Mexico.
    Trudeau Jr. reminds us constantly of his father’s greatest triumph, the Sacred Charter and a Supreme Court that constantly revises and adjusts the law but he couldn’t accept a 5 year sunset clause that would require future adjustments so now we have nothing.
    The country is screwed.

    1. I think that was just an excuse (the 5-year clause). I think Trudeau and the Libs have been caught with their pants down and now they are just spinning to hide their incompetence. Correct on “the country is screwed”. Harper would not have let this happen, I am pretty sure. For one thing, a Harper negotiating team would have involved top people with an understanding of economics — rather than the foolish and incompetent social justice crew Trudeau involved.

      1. Yes. And the first thing they’d have done is tell Quebec farmers to learn English and get a real job, and stop sucking English blood.

      3. you have to wonder what the “socks” was told to do when he went to the Aga Kant’s joint for X-mas

        this may be a globalist effort to box Trump in, and it ain’t gonna work. Bludy fools they are

      4. Well juthtin did say

        “Ready right now to do those things that Stephen Harper won’t do “

    2. Exactly. The key words were Canada and Mexico are ‘pass throughs’ for Chinese steel.

      Off topic, but I found the item about the Clinton administration official Mary Jo Bane’s views rather interesting. Her views on child rearing were taken right out of the Bolshevik program in 1917-18.

      1. Ken, if I may add something to your comment….Hillary Clinton ‘s book ” It Takes A Village” apparently borrows from this same source. This Russian woman was Alexandra Kollontai, you mentioned Alexandra’s name here on S.D.A. last Winter.

        You proved that the Communists on this side of the pond are not original thinkers nor do they give credit to the original author.

    3. Nold @ 10:30 (and Ken @ 10:47):

      If the US decides that they want or need to increase their internal capability for producing steel and aluminum products, then I am of the view that that is their decision. If the US decides they don’t want to rely on steel or aluminum sourced in (say) China, that is also their decision.

      In Canada, I suspect that our steel and aluminum companies use imported “raw” steel and aluminum from countries other than the US and then manufacture or refine specific steel and aluminum products that are exported back to the US. This would mean, of course, that the US is actually using foreign steel and aluminum for those products even though the final products are manufactured in Canada.

      However, I haven’t seen anything in the press or heard much or anything from Mr. Trudeau and others about this, and haven’t been able to find much on the internet that would help quantify it. Can you (or other readers here) point me to figures showing what quantities of source materials for Canadian steel and aluminum manufacturers come from non-US sources?

      Thanks in advance.

      1. “However, I haven’t seen anything in the press or heard much or anything from Mr. Trudeau and others about this, and haven’t been able to find much on the internet that would help quantify it.”

        You won’t find anything in the Canadian media on the front pages about Canada being a ‘pass through’ destination for the US, as that would hurt the Liberal narrative about Canada being the victim. Just in a few minutes I did find a Global News item that seemed to confirm that Canada was well aware that Canada was being used as a mule for Asian (read Chinese) steel and aluminum. There probably is more information like this, but you have to really dig to find it.

        Global: “That announcement came about a month after the Canada Border Services Agency was granted extra powers to identify businesses that try to dodge import duties and ship cheap foreign steel and aluminum through the Canadian market.”

        https://globalnews.ca/news/4244191/canada-steel-aluminum-dumping-u-s-tariffs/

        1. Well, there’s no evidence that significant volumes of Chinese steel pass through Canada to America. Not that it would be a bad thing for anyone but inefficient US steel producers.

    4. There’s no evidence of ‘pass through’ nor is there any reason to believe it is a bad thing. Imports are the entire point of trade.

  14. One thing Canadians need to understand is that to do well economically we must work effectively with the US. They have so much clout and have such an impact on our economy. We can get away with things like government subsidized health care and pushing our cultural views, but the bottom line is that US support is needed — for defence and for our economic well being. I think the game that the Libs and the left has been playing has been to align themselves with the EU and the globalists — thinking that this would be a way of reducing the power of the US. Thanks to the Trump election, that strategy does not work. Unfortunately, too many Canadians seem to think that poking a stick at the giant down south is a way to assert our independence. That view is misguided and ultimately self-destructive. Globalist money is moving us in the direction of destroying our resource sector. We seem to have elected a government that has no problem with this. It is such a shame. If Canadians do not soon wake up we will be paying an appalling price.

    1. “we must work effectively with the US.”

      DAFUQ does this mean? If this means importing US protectionism, no dice. Better off negotiating with China while waiting for an adult for president.

    2. LindaL: You are so right. CANADIANS NEED TO WAKE UP…Trudeau is lying. He was bought the same with BUTT’S!! GO TRUMP GO!!! VOTE THE LIE BRALS OUT IN 2019!! MSM FAKE NEWS!! When is someone going to tell the truth!!!

      1. I laugh every time I hear some poor deluded fool say “Canadians need to wake up”. A long hard belly laugh. Like cold fusion, it hasn’t happened yet. Why do you cling to the assumption that it ever will? Just curious, I need more larfs.

  16. Great that you are linking to Treehouse, Kate. It is THE US site to go to in the way that yours is THE Canadian site to go to.

    2. Maggie Menzies: Between the 2 sites you have listed, you do find the truth. MSM is so FAKE NEWS Canadians need to find the out the truth as PM Sock Puppet is a liar. VOTE OUT THE “LIE” BRALS IN 2019!!! By 2019 Canadians will 150 Billion in debt….the Lie brals are creating another ADD SCAM situation!!

  17. As many have stated here, Trudeau bringing in the Canadian Armed Forces is a little too, too rich for my taste. The Liberals, and the New Democrats by association, are the last people to dare ride the coat-tails of our Armed Forces. If it was up to the New Democrats there would be no Canadian Forces and as far as the Liberals are concerned they pay only lip service to our national defence. From the ” We will have conscription if necessary but not necessarily conscription”, the HMCS Bonaventure decommissioning, the Unified uniform, the Sea King replacement, and the F-35 debacle, the Liberals have done everything to cripple Canada’s ability to field the fighting and independent spirit that Canadians were once known and proud of. So pardon me while I vomit over this insipid little, lisping, quisling’s speech about standing shoulder to shoulder with our ally to the south.

    The bottom line is that Canada, as has most of the rest of the world, been standing by on the sidelines as America has financed the peace that we so take for granted. While we benefit from the protection that America provides we denigrate and criticize American policy. That, dear readers, is the pinnacle of hypocrisy.

    As far as the steel and aluminum tariffs are concerned I believe Trump is right. If you think differently answer this little question. Why does Canada with the biggest coast line in the world have a navy that is in every respect smaller that Pakistan’s? For that matter why does Canada have to buy coastal ferries from Germany and Poland, and second hand twenty year old submarines from Britain, or bridges from China? I have my own answer but I doubt that it would be palatable to some of the pearl clutching, bed wetting, knicker twisting, Liberals and Democrat trolls that display their moronic, imbecilic, logic here at times.

    1. At some point, if you don’t have a military, somebody is going to make you an offer you can’t refuse.

      1. Just let us burn your capitol down (it’s only fair), maybe quit clubbing the seals and shoot them in the head, and let us make fun of you for a few years (this would probably get a bit ruthless, but you know: again, fair).
        In return: more wins in the summer Olympics (and hey, that potential hockey team, huh?); part of a dynamic, world leading consumer culture; and 2nd Amendment — need I say more?

  19. Great read. Thanks Kate!

    The chickens are coming home to roost my friends and Trudeau and his cabinet of incompetents do not have a clue what to do.

    Made sure to buy a bottle of US wine last night to go with my dinner.

    Here’s to Trump! The establishment are like a deer in headlights.

    Now we need to elect Scheer.

  20. We’ll see how all that 150 year old, anti Americanism bravado that NDP/LPOC/GREEN sells, works out 7 June, 2018. If folks in S. Ontario can’t see the writing on the communist wall, then welcome to the Gulag. Butts/Sock Puppet’s next move in this card game they’re playing badly, will be a real bad choice. Legalized MJ.

    It passes, the US border is pretty much shut to Canadians & Canadian trade. The Yanks will let us fight among ourselves for a bit to solve our problems, if we don’t solve it quickly, they will step in & solve it for us.

    Know when to fold ’em.

    1. Yup. That’s what they’ve always done in Latin America. Why should we be treated special?

      Me, I’ll be happy to give American tanks directions to Rideau Cottage. I won’t be the only one. Let’s see how many Canadian soldiers care to be the last to die for government owned pot shops, gay sex ed in kindergarten and French on cereal boxes.

      1. The US is not interested in carrying out your insane violent fantasies. Seek therapy.

  21. There are several comments about Canadians getting the incompetent government they deserve and they are spot on.

    Had this been any other country, Justin and his friends would be indicted by now.

    Justin was never a negotiator but he was a useful idiot to the Chinese and will still be. His pettiness and idiocy are the reasons why moron Canadians will see their standard of living lower.

  22. Things could be worse.

    Could have a land whale tangerine as our leader.

    Thank god we don’t!

    3. We should be so lucky. Canadians are so out to lunch about Trump and what he is accomplishing for his country. I think at some stage (maybe already) the negative comments are motivated by subconscious jealousy. I know some people will howl at this, but they are the exact ones who are so delusional about political realities. The real dim wit is the guy pretending to run Canada. If the US does not like Trump, they can boot him out next time, but looks like a lot of people do like him. Maybe that is because he is working for the people, rather than the globalists. Even many Blacks are embracing Trump, the relentlessly negative press notwithstanding. Trump is focused on creating jobs and wealth for his country. Canadians for some reason remain clueless. (I suspect because of closed-minded stubbornness and residual anti-Americanism.) Quelle surprise!

      1. “Trump and what he is accomplishing for his country. ”

        He’s accomplishing bankruptcy, economic lethargy and possibly recession, and ultimately getting Nancy Pelosi her job back.

        1. The real question in analyzing the May jobs numbers released Friday is whether there are enough synonyms for “good” in an online thesaurus to describe them adequately.

          So, for example, “splendid” and “excellent” fit the bill. Those are the kinds of terms that are appropriate when the United States economy adds 223,000 jobs in a month, despite being nine years into an expansion, and when the unemployment rate falls to 3.8 percent, a new 18-year low.

          New York Times.

          https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/01/upshot/we-ran-out-of-words-to-describe-how-good-the-jobs-numbers-are.html

          1. That’s nice. It’s a continuation of the same trend seen for several years now. Literally the same sloping line.

    4. No…our “land whale tangerine” just owns your tiny dancer PM — and she isn’t even our President (but your PM still asks her ‘how high’ when she says ‘jump’ I’d reckon!). (and really, I know Hillary was quite fat and unattractive in that orange pantsuit but at that point she was hardly a land whale…she was merely hippopotamus girth at that time)

  23. The east will not buy our stuff (oil), but when someone else will not buy there stuff,,, that’s called Karma. “”” Karma sucks JT and leftists “””.

    1. …..You do know that the C of C are rabid Anti Trumpers and would love to
      see President Trump economic plan fail!

    2. Yeah, sure. The record low unemployment we are enjoying was the first clue!

      1. Yes, and the fact that the rate of change of the unemployment record is the same as it has been for years.

    3. Ah yes, that bastion of economic analysis.

      Perhaps the C of C could quantify how many jobs were “lost” under Obama’s interventionist regime.

      Then again, maybe you’re right, equations probably have only one side, except for the social license quotient.

      I trust nobody until they present their data. Until then it’s mine or somebody else’s opinion, nothing more.

      Such as this:

      “Founded in 1912, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce has been shaped by its CEO Tom Donohue into a powerful lobbying and campaigning machine that pursues a fairly narrow special-interest agenda. It’s now the largest lobbying organization in the U.S. (ranked by budget). It mostly represents the interests of a handful of so-called “legacy industries” – industries like tobacco, banking and fossil fuels which have been around for generations and learned how to parley their earnings into political influence. The Chamber seeks favorable treatment for them, for example, through trade negotiations, tax treatment, regulations and judicial rulings.”

      https://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/2015/10/22/who-does-the-us-chamber-of-commerce-really-represent

    4. Or not. Who knows?

      This is the same type of verbiage that I see in the alarmist climate change articles….. things might, could, possibly … be way worse than we thought. Or not. “I don’t commit to anything that could be held against me if I’m wrong.”

      Click bait.

  25. …..Do Canadians have a “Donald Trump” to Make Canada Great Again?

    1. Thankfully, no. Canada’s retardation moments are more ‘conservative’ than America’s. We never elected FDR.

  26. Where does the ‘Last Refuge’ get its facts? If by some fantastical coincidence (I would like to see documentation), Canada passed along every tonne of steel imported from China into the US under the NAFTA, it would amount to less than one percent of the US consumption of steel. It would also represent about what the US imports directly from Taiwan (Is Trump allowed to call them Chinese?) and less than half of what they import from Russia. Oh ya, Canada ( a nation that imports more steel from the US than it exports) is a strategic threat to American steel supplies (NOT), 80% of which they produce for themselves. Just because Trudeau is the actual Spawn of Satan does not make Trump a God. He is a loose cannon populist whose protectionism is of no benefit to the US economy. We all need free trade, period. The 13,000 Canadian dairy producers who cost 36,000,000 dearly should face open competition. Mutually assured tariffs is a losers game. The US is just one of many bankrupt welfare, nanny states. Trump is doing little to change that.

    1. Yes, Trump hasn’t stopped the welfare state, neither did Harper.

      Is the solution is enabling a super welfare state, with devaluation leading to confiscation of business assets?

      Near miss conservatism enables so becomes full blown totalitarian socialism. What could go wrong?

      Trump seems to be doing something about “that.” Meanwhile, Trudeau loves the status quo.

      You’re right, no difference; bring on the leviathan one party state!

      Elections are so time consuming and elites can’t accept the risk the voters could be “wrong.”

      Trump is right about our ridiculous dairy industry, this is how he plans to change “that.”

      1. “Trump seems to be doing something about “that.””

        Yes, he’s making it far worse.

    2. Canada is the largest source of imported US steel, 17% of total volume.

      https://www.trade.gov/steel/countries/pdfs/imports-us.pdf

      mported steel into the US continues to rise even as the domestic industry furloughs thousands of employees. The US steel industry is also being hindered by reduced demand due to a slowing of drilling for natural gas and oil from shale projects that have been put on hold as crude prices have collapsed.
      In an e-mail statement to China Daily on Tuesday, the American Iron and Steel Institute said that imports surged to an historic record market share last year. “US finished steel imports from all countries increased 36 percent in 2014 and captured 28 percent of the US market last year the highest import market share in history compared to only 23 percent in 2013,”

      http://www.metalworkingworldmagazine.com/the-rise-of-us-steel-imports/

      Ya gotta start somewhere.

      You also have to consider Mexico as part of this.

      But if you want Canada to be the theater for a proxy trade war between China and the US, have at it. It makes me kind of sad.

      1. “Canada is the largest source of imported US steel, 17% of total volume.” True. But the 17% is of the total imports, not production. The US produces roughly 80mmt, exports 10mmt (60%of which goes to Canada), and imports 30mmt (17% of which comes from Canada). 55% of Canada’s steel imports come from the US. Canada imports more steel from the US than it exports to the US. So tell me how the US is harmed by having a steel trade surplus with Canada. US consumers will now be harmed with more expensive steel. This isn’t a Trudeau vs Trump issue. It’s a Trump vs economic reality issue. Trump’s Softwood Tariffs have cost the US housing consumers billions and hasn’t changed the metric that the US refuses to materially harvest from its public forests (gutless against its greens) and instead has to continually import 30% of its market requirements from Canada.

    3. 4.8% economic growth? That doesn’t count? Please explain why that doesn’t count.

      What do you want useless bromides? “Free trade “is what brought the US to a zero growth state. You really should look into how the Chinese government subsidizes the entire supply chain of capital intensive industries before you start prattling on about free trade trade with China. If the last three presidents were anything but stooges for US multinationals they would’ve brought actions against China for their massively subsidized exports.

      Most prefer action over words. Trump is delivering on higher growth, has abandoned the faild Obama policies for denuclearizing Iran and Korea and many other things.

      1. ““Free trade “is what brought the US to a zero growth state. ”

        Bzzt. America has never had free trade. They were riven with protectionism before Turmp showed up.

        ” Trump is delivering on higher growth”

        No he isn’t. Growth is mediocre. You’re a moron who does not understand economics. Imports are a good thing. Subsidized imports = transfer of wealth to the importing country.

        1. The overall unemployment rate is 3.8%, and the unemployment rate for blacks is the lowest it has ever been recorded ( per the NYT ).

          That last datum really gets under your skin, doesn’t it. You racist.

          1. The unemployment decline is merely following the trend it has for the past several years. Further, U6 is the better data. Oddly conservatives used to talk about this and the labour participation rate a lot and now don’t know it exists.

    4. You forgot to mention the fact that this steel being smuggled into America is only good for America. Imports are the entire point of trade. Cheaper imports = wealthier importing country

      Bush already pulled this crap with his own steel tariffs. Caused a great deal of destruction.

    1. God I hope you’re right. There’s little point negotiating with the idiot in charge in the White House now, and I suspect this sentiment is shared by many governments. Canada and others can simply walk away; the US accounts for a much smaller share of world GDP than they used to.

  29. Why did trade talks with China stall first week of December 2017?
    Answer: two faces of China waits to see outcome of nafta, new nafta with no pass through means bad trade deal for Canada with China, red dragon face (China must negotiate with Trump for access to US , panda face, doesn’t need Canada anymore). That’s why Trudeau couldn’t get any trade NEGOTIATIONS with China.

    https://www.google.ca/search?

  30. Why was Trudeau’s attempt at negotiations with India ignored?
    Same reason, no pass through access to US if no Nafta.
    Trump meets Modi in November 2017, tells him India won’t be able to use Canada or Mexico as back door pass through into US. Modi is informed he will have to negotiate with Trump and Wilbur Ross for access to US.
    Trudeau visits India in February.

    How did that turn out?

  31. It is important to remember that before Trump game along, Canada and Mexico only did what the previous administrations ( Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama) and Congress/ Senate let them get away with because the chamber of commerce and agri biz have controlled and corrupted the process.

    Justin and the liberals could have decided to join the US in having a truly North American Made and Produced Free Trade Agreement and worked with Trump to eliminate the fatal flaw in NAFTA but they bought into their own propaganda about how important they are and how bad Trump is. This was Canada’s mistake on this file.

    1. ” North American Made and Produced Free Trade Agreement”

      LOL IOW you’d have us accept a trade protection agreement instead of a free trade agreement. Thanks but no thanks.

    2. Get away with what? It has been America abusing NAFTA mostly. See softwood lumber. Not once has a NAFTA or WTO panel agreed with the Americans on the issue.

      1. Sorry, no.

        The fees charged for timber cut on Crown lands is below the market rate, and that is a subsidy in violation of trade rules. Canadian wood cut on private land is charged a far lower tariff than that from Crown lands.

        In other words, the Americans have a legitimate complaint, so why won’t the Canadian government try to reach an amicable agreement- it is in the wrong, as well.

        2. “The fees charged for timber cut on Crown lands is below the market rate, and that is a subsidy in violation of trade rules. Canadian wood cut on private land is charged a far lower tariff than that from Crown lands.” Given the almost total absence of timber harvested from US public land and the differences in the provincial vs state and US federal responsibilities, the stumpage issue is near impossible to discern leaving Canada’s system nearly indefensible. However , given that there is any duties on lumber from logs originating on private land and the absence of duties on logs, one can conclude that under all the fog, it’s plain old protectionism by a group of lobbying US forest companies. Canada’s largest Lumber companies have now bought up sawmills in the US and now benefit from this protectionism while the US consumers get screwed as usual.

        3. That’s their argument. The WTO and NAFTA panels have not once agreed with their argument.

  32. The one rational trade policy is unilateral free trade. Barring that, Canada and everybody else should just give the US the silent treatment until they have a non-moron for president. I can’t imagine the G-men of Mexico, Canada, Europe and others aren’t huddling around those from China. We need an FTA with China and each other. That’s the way to go.

    1. Yeah, let us know how your “free trade” agreement with China works out without the ability to dump the imports right back into the US. Let us know when China agrees to accept anything other than commodities from Canada in significant amounts. Let us know when Europe agrees to actual “free trade.”

  33. LYN: Justin’s father was an aloof, parsimonious, showy man who had an emotional detachment disorder. He hated everyone, mostly the ignorant French Canadian. Justin’s mother was a young bride who was manic and emotionally needy. Their son has a narcissistic personality disorder. (so as per genetics and D.N.A. laws, when “Showy” mates with “Pretty”, you get” PrettyShowy” i.e. this equals Justin, who has a narcissistic personality disorder)

    He knows he’s sliding and unfortunately he is going to take us all down with him, that’s what these people do. Right now I blame the Old Guard who are half dead and still gave him the Party leadership. Shame on them. They all have to be voted out.

    And no, he cannot negotiate worth a freaking croissant and Pepsi.
    (The Press left this out of the then daily news at the time, but
    when the Trudeaus were in India, his # 3 child was out of the view of the camera, lying down on the outside ground having a temper tantrum. If Justin couldn’t intervene for his child’s comfort why should he think he can negotiate for this massive country. Perhaps his # 3 will become P.M. someday! )

    1. Nancy Ross: Thanks. I should have known with parents like he had what should I expect. ONE NARCISSISTIC IDIOT!! I’m so glad he is sliding he is destroying this country and needs to be voted out. VOTE OUT THE LIE BRALS IN 2019!!
      GO SCHEER GO……..GO TRUMP GO!!

  34. Agreed NR.
    The behind the scene libranos – the ones that own the party and make the big decisions have to be concerned. They must think that bongo can still pull it all together and win in’19.
    If the polls continue to go south over the summer and bongo is looking like 3rd place money – something will be done. Winning is all that matters.

    1. To: lyn, abtrapper and B A

      See Yesterday’s thread June 1 for more commentary about the Trudeaus @:
      More Pavilions @ Folkfest @ 4:32 & 4:43 pm and accept my apologies for one grammatical error. ( I’d link you, but this damn machine has a mind of it’s own, I am stuck but undaunted)

      Smiles,
      Nancy

    2. If the Liberals wake tf up already they could easily replace Justin with a Boring Respectable Adult and sleepwalk to victory next election. Garneau might have been made in a lab for this scenario.

  35. Pretty obvious that Trudeau is trying to use Canada’s purchasing power to influence the US midterm elections. If it wasn’t so funny it could be described as cute. As in a baby wetting it’s first diaper cute.

      1. Not really. It won’t change the election results since unemployment is way up. In all reality no one is going to stop buying felt pens because there is a tariff. Of the seven million dollars in felt pen sales about $6,999,999.90 will continue to be sold.

  36. PET POT Cemetery Report.

    Stupid Liberal Justine: Idjut From NO say, Moi told you! No Big Deal!

    ““I just want to scream,” …”

    …-

    “Trudeau: I said no to NAFTA sunset clause” (cpress)
    …-

    “Trump Metal Tariffs Send Corporate Canada Reeling in Disbelief”

    ““I just want to scream,” the chief executive officer of structural-steel maker Canam Group Inc. said Friday by phone. “All this is doing is creating uncertainty. It’s the last thing we needed.””

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-01/trump-metal-tariffs-send-corporate-canada-reeling-in-disbelief

  37. Also, although he’s been an idiot about this at times, the recent spasm of protectionism is plainly not Trudeau’s fault because it has hit everybody from us to the EU to the UK. The common denominator is a mentally unfit protectionist president.

  38. MAGA.

    cc: Stupid Liberal Justine and Climate Barbie.

    …-

    “Delingpole: One Year on from Quitting Paris Accord, Trump ‘Has Broken the Spell of Climate Change Mania’”

    “A year on from his bold decision to quit the UN Paris Accord, President Trump has been praised for having “broken the spell of climate change mania.”

    Writing in the Daily Telegraph, Charles Moore hails Trump’s exit from Paris as the moment when the “global warmists” lost “the levers of control”.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/06/03/delingpole-one-year-on-from-quitting-paris-accord-trump-has-broken-the-spell-of-climate-change-mania/

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