Breaking!!
Liberal sources are disclosing that there were additional elements to the Cadman bribe!
In addition to offering a patient in the final stages of terminal cancer a one million dollar insurance policy, Harper is reported to have offered Cadman a unicorn, and a magical forest in which to ride his new beast.
Although experts unanimously agree that unicorns, magical forests, and million dollar insurance policies for terminal cancer patients, don’t actually exist, Liberal insiders are firm with their allegations.
Said one source close to Dion:
“Look, if Harper can manage to hold onto power for over two years, pass three budgets, a crime bill and maintain his Afghan position, with three left leaning parties holding more seats than the CPC, he can certainly produce unicorns, and insurance policies for dying patients.”
Meanwhile, the Globe and Mail is sending its crack team to investigate the obviously legitimate concerns of Conservative unicorn production. Stay tuned.
Why would Dona Cadman go to work for a Party that had so enraged and insulted her dying husband with an alleged million dollar insurance bribe? Was she a willing dupe of Paul Martin and Tom Zytaruk? It’s a pretty ridiculous position to be in to be running for a political Party that you are defaming at the same time. Either she’s out for revenge or just not very smart. Or she has gotten herself into an unfortunate position that she can’t get out of. Funny that she didn’t want to go on camera with her statements to CTV.
Of course, the CBC is also in on the smearing (as usual). As the CBC itself reported, “While agreeing that the CBC needs stable, multi-year funding, Conservative members also backed away from recommendations for specific increase amounts detailed in the report.” Looks like the typical CBC immune response to a threat.
“Come off it! When a poll of his riding, (possibly) personal self interest and (possibly) unhappiness about a questionable offer all point one to vote in the same direction, then there is no conflict. He simply had three things saying vote that way and none of consequence saying vote the other”
The fact of the matter is he voted in his own self interest yet told the canadian public a lie(in a TV interview) and he told his wife and family a lie( according to his book that you want us al to beleive). You can’t have it both wayas. I realize, that as a lieberal you think you can, but you can’t.
Horny Toad
I really wondered at the time why Mr. Cadman propped up The liberals, they were the people that would not do anything to stiffen the penaltys for the type of thugs that murdered his son. This was the reason he entered politics in the first place. It is not at all remarable that he would want to provide for his family as best he could, and if passing away as a sitting M P doubled his insurance well so be it.His statement to Duffy is illumanating. As for “million dollar” policies for terminal people, that is simply impossible, and no matter how loudly Dion bleats that in garbled english, it will only be believed by the same people that await the “great punkin”.
Just wondering if maybe there are some ‘developments’ behind the scenes that are in the Cons.favor.Just watched the news on cbc,and not one word thru the half hr.on Cadscam.If this was so devastating and true,would not the cbc be stuck on every minute detail, interviews with anyone that would be negative towards the Cons? Methinks something stinks,and watching the ‘author’ of said book,he is not very convincing at all.Talk about a promo book tour!
Next thing we’ll hear is that the Liberals bribed a dim-witted former Tory with a high profile cabinet position to cross the floor to keep the Fiberals alive … wait a minute!
Posted by: JohnnyRingo re: “Harper’s no different than any Liberal”
Sorry Johnny, I’ve went along with some of your comments in the past, but not this. I don’t think Harper is above some of the political shenanigans Liberals do as a matter of course, but the the way he’s running things now is fundamentally different – from the way he deals with the media, to the way he works with lobbyists.
The biggest criticism of Harper that sticks is that he’s partisan, and that it can get the better of him. I think it’s understandable given the underhanded old-school politics the Liberals continue to practice. Disgusting. I don’t consider myself right wing (I’m definitely left of many who post here), and I’ve even agreed with some of your positions. But I’ll fight these Liberals (especially Ralph Goodale).
Only these Liberals could wait until someone’s dead to ascribe words to him contrary to those he said on this very issue ON CAMERA, and call those pointing out he said them (on camera), effectively, liars. Then accuse Harper of calling Cadman’s widow and daughter liars. Well excuse me, either Cadman lied, on camera, when asked a direct question on this issue, or his wife/daughter are lying (or mistaken, to be kinder).
The Liberals are creating this whole controversy out of nothing, first with the leak, and now by manipulating the widow/daughter. If that’s the best they have to offer Canadians, then I hope they die at the polls. Unfortunately, there’s no shortage of idiots out there (on either side I might add). The difference is – the Liberals pander to them.
So, as for your assertion Harper’s just like the Liberals, I disagree, but I appreciate your implication this is just the kind of thing the Liberals would do.
No smear of Chuck Cadman.
More like clearing Cadman and loose talk like he deserves a Million$ insurance policy or gifts of gold plated unicorns or what ever.
No offer is real unless it is written and agreed to. Where is the document? Where is the impossible insurance application.
Nowhere. So much for what Chuck deserved. but was never delivered. = TG
The stench in Ottawa and Quebec was so bad that not even the G&M could any longer turn a blind eye to the corruption.
Giving G&M credit for breaking the Liberal corruption story is like taking credit for a birthing,it was going to come out one way or another, sooner or later.
Pimping and Chest beating for the G&M and other MSM after a decade of wilful blindness to Liberal corruption doesn’t command any respect, even from a moron.
FOX News ( unavailable to Canada) would have kicked their a**es years before any Canadian MSM ever decided enough was enough.
And what about the Liberals politicization of the RCMP, wasn’t there an unlold story there as well for years?
I reiterate, Canadian MSM G&M included were enablers of the corruption of Liberal government malfeasance for a decade or more.
Period!
Pay close attention where MSM bias lies in the Cadman frenzy.
I think the Cadman’s family should be teated with respect by the CPC until the situation is either straightened out or fades away. It is entirely possible that it is a misunderstanding between what was actually discussed between Mr.Cadman and the CPC, what he told his family, the way they interpreted it and the way the author framed the situation in the book.
The more likely culprits to look at are less than ethical book marketing, Liberal dirty tricks and an unfriendly MSM.
Low brow politics, juvenile smear job by the all too willing Liberal jackasses, including the “leader” Dionski who asked the lead accusatory question.
It staring to look like a collaboration from the beginning. One doesn’t just happen to have an amateur taping of Harper ready for book launching time.
It’s not the village dump or Limburger cheese we’re smelling. Try connecting the dots.
This story simply infuriates me. It seems that politicians of all stripes conspire with the media to chase phantoms that have nothing to do with the real issues of government. Is this really what government has become? We are taxed to death, have immense social problems, an underfunded military, a criminal justice system that hasn’t worked for years and the potential for some significant economic difficulty in the near future and the media is pursuing this “he says-she says” nonsense as though it will have a significant impact on how the country works. My God, I’m ashamed to be a Canadian.
Joe Molnar says
“FOX News ( unavailable to Canada)”
It is, you just have to pay an extra 2 bucks for it. And it is well worth the 2 dollars.
Stand Your Ground has a few good questions re the Cadman affair.
I believe a man – any man – could make a decision that would benefit his family in such a circumstance. After thoughtful consideration, he most likely concluded that it was only a matter of time for Martin and the LIEberals to self-implode.
That he would make such a revelation on his death bed defies all reasoning, though. Drugs do weird things to the mind, but to believe that he formulated that particular accusation as he was dying does require a mind that can believe not only in unicorns, but the tooth fairy and ‘the little people’.
Mr. Cadman was an honourable man who served his country well. Revealing this at such a late stage could make even the most generous a bit skeptical. The family are doing no justice to the memory of their loved one. May he RIP.
I’m following this closely. I still haven’t read anything in depth yet, but have picked up snippets and questions.
1. From an interview snippet I heard, the book’s author doesn’t have any clear idea of what happened, he just wrote it in.
2. I have heard references of “bad blood” – from the Cadman clan no less.
3. Mrs. Cadman is running for the conservative party!!! (I expect the Conservative party will soon have her running alright.)
4. Apparently, Cadman told Mike Duffey in private that he voted for the Liberals so he might die while the government was still in power so his wife could get his pension. I need more info on that.
5. Paul Martin, no less, wrote the introduction to this book.
6. The Cadman clan claims are only hearsay.
7. Was that sound bite tape edited or complete?
8. Why did Harper talk to the author?
9. Does anyone know whether the Cadmans received his pension/insurance. I heard his dauughter claim that he told her on his death bed that they would receive insurance.
So, what’s going on?
a) A liberal covert action?
b) A Cadman clan attack, in response to something that did or did not happen.
c) An internal conservative party attack?
d) Just a publishing stunt.
7. Cadman himself denied any offers.
On one hand how could Cadman have admitted to Mike Duffy that his Commons vote would be influenced by his MP’s insurance plan and then on the other hand (to his wife and daughter) express disgust at the CPC’s alleged (and impossible) “insurance bribe”.
Unfortunately Cadman is not around to comment on this observation and there is too much of an inconsistency in his actions. Was he on painkillers or some other medication that could have impaired his judgement at this time?
On this thread back at the 6:56 AM mark Shere Kahn provides a link to CBC’s As It Happens interview of the book’s author…the man comes across as a clear and utter doofus!
I don’t think Donna Cadman is lying. I think she misremembers
How about a review of the facts?
As a sitting MP, Cadman’s term life insurance policy was worth $1 million.
Upon dissilution of the house, the value of the policy would only be worth $500,000. Cadman’s family would have been guaranteed half-a-mil regardless if he’d won re-election or not.
Cadman was in a position where if he brought down the government of the day, his family would be out a half-mil. So, good for him for looking after the interests of his family.
There is no way the Conservative Party or any other party could have purchased a life insurance policy for a person with an existing condition.
So, let’s get away from the facts for a while and ask some questions.
If Cadman had voted against the sitting government of the day, how would the half-mil shortfall to his family been covered?
PM Harper, in his taped interview with the book’s author, clearly told the envoys to Cadman that offering Cadman anyt offer would likely be rejected. The author was on TV and said he was surprised at Harper’s candour.
Therefore, Harper has nothing to hide and his position is clearly stated. That makes any attempt to suggest Harper directed this preposterous.
So, take this attack on Harper for what it is … National Enquirer-type of rumour-mongering using vague language to mislead.
The Libs cannot beat Harper on the issues, so they’re trying to beat an honourable man on gossip. Admittedly, that approach appeals to a certain segment of the population.
I guess we can assume that the SDA regulars have completely ruled out the possibility that Cadman didn’t want hit his last weeks on Earth to be surrounded in scandal, even if he was truly angry about the (alleged) vote buy attempt.
Nope, there’s no way the guy would have wanted to spare he and his family further media attention WHILE HE DIED OF CANCER. Impossible. Like RW above says, it must be a “liberal covert action”…yep, that ought to do the trick.
Well, it’s one of two things; Your scrappy little PM Harper was party to an attempt to buy a vote, or the family of a dead man, with NOTHING to gain from it and much to lose, is for some strange reason lying in unison.
Easy to figure out where the Small-minded Animal would come down on this one. Harper is infallible, the family is lying (for what reason we do not know) and evil Liberals are somehow to blame for it.
When it comes down to a question of whether one believes a politician who is heard on a recorded tape as being intimately familiar with events connected to a vote-buying scandal, or the family who is now explaining how political operatives offered a dying man financial compensation for his vote, well, I always know which party I’ll believe. Hint: it ain’t the power hungry politician.
Carry on.
“Latest” wallyj @1101??
This was almost three years ago, around the time Belinda was bribed to go liberal. Let’s investigate that!
Noone knows. The problem is that if it was an extraordinary bribe then the normal rules of insurance would not apply. In other words the CPC had found an insurer willing to do it, most likely culprit would have been their own party insurer.
The problem with my above statement is that it is pure speculation on HOW you could do something like this. There are many other ways. So it is incumbent on those throwing mus and the media to find evidence that this theory took place, not that it was possible (although that is one step) but that there is evidence (not proof) that it took place.
At this stage you have some troubling comments, some unfortuante wording from Harper himself. All acknowledge Cadman was concerned about his financial state and this was a primary motivation, so much for being solely a man of priciple….and so much for his family, his daughter crying becaus 1 million would have helped them so much, is she upset at the alleged bribe or upset that Chuck didnt take it? Maybe I have misunderstood her words.
Harper is clean, his quote says he is aware Findlay and Flanagan thought this, financial concerns, was the motivation but Harper is quoted as saying I dont believe it, I accept his decision. Ask if you want, but dont push it is the other part of his quote.
1) You need a credible theory, not out there for the moment since his insurance policy would have rolled over in terms of loss, so was there soemthing over and above, which makes little sense but nasty if true
2) You need some evidence to back up your theory.
Right now people are working the the wrong way back. There is alleged evidence but not sure of what.
This is a tempest in a teapot and pure gossip until you can get through those two questions. THEN you have to prove the evidence against other theories that fit it.
ADSCAM had a working theory, an understandable mechanism (false invoices and overpayment), evidence (from the auditor generals report and subsequet investigations) and proof, testimony and documents.
This has nothing to it….yet and maybe never.
RingoBoyo, Mrs. Cadman is, tada!! a politican herself!
Torywatcher, the Cadman clan has a lot to gain from this – I expect book sales are going to be heavy.
Actually ringoboyo @1241 that was one of several possibilities I enumerated.
So the same day this took place Belinda did cross the floor because of a bribe and that was ok but years later someone who didn’t and for a hare brained idea like a life insurance policy no company would approve is what I’m supposed to believe.
Well if the CPC did who approached him, Krista Erickson?
set you free – what is your data base that sitting MPs are insured to the sum of one million? I’ve heard that it’s 300,000. But I don’t know.
There is no way that any insurance company would insure Cadman at this stage in his illness. Period.
Equally, it is absurd to set up a situation where, as Ignatieff-the-academic (and others) have attempted, it’s an Either-Or situation. Either Mrs. Cadman, the widow (appeal to pity here) is lying, OR Harper is lying. That Either-Or is a fallacy.
The situation could be that both are telling the truth as they experienced the situation.
The CPC did not offer Cadman a million dollar life insurance policy (an impossibility); they might have offered him a sum to cover his financial losses within his MP insurance if the House fell.
And Mrs. Cadman might have interpreted her husband’s words about this as ‘not for a million dollars’ or whatever.
Why is the media so willing to ignore what some people are saying (Harper, and the two CPC people who talked with Cadman; and Cadman’s own taped words that there were no offers) and accept the hearsay of Mrs Cadman and her daughter?
Why was the book sent to Paul Martin who wrote a forward to it? Why is the author selling the tape for $500 each?
Why did the MSM and parliament essentially ignore that Paul Martin bribed Belinda Stronach with a cabinet post to cross the floor and save his minority? Why are they saying nothing about the Liberal strategy of trying to get Grewal’s vote? And the tape that was altered in that situation?
Why is the Liberal party focusing on this, made up only of hearsay, and not paying back the 40 million in taxpayer funds they used for their Quebec election work in 1995?
I’ve been absorbing all the interviews and like most others am appalled
that we are even contemplating the veracity of this trumped-up non-story.
What seems obvious though,are the following:
(i) Libs would do anything for power;
(ii) Duffy has more integrity than the rest of the media establishment put together;
(iii) Chuck’s family lack his integrity, totally; and,
(iv) I wouldn’t now buy this book for a dime if
there were $100 dollar bills inserted between the pages.
RW, thanks for making my point even more salient, although I’d point out she’s not a politician yet (my definition is that’s usually someone who’s been elected, and so far, no dice). However, she is a Conservative leveling these charges on her Conservative colleagues. So that alone makes her charges all the more compelling.
BTW, the stuff about Belinda is just lame. It’s old. People saw how Martin operated, and kicked his sorry sack to the curb. They gave Harper his minority government in response to Martin’s incompetence and ethical shakiness. Turns out he’s…not so different.
But remember: today’s topic is Conservative vote-buying allegations. Please stay on topic.
Ringo, you putz, we see through unsubstantial allegations here. You get wood.
Lets not forget the Liberal gun registry overrun – Almost 2 billion now folks – Anyone feel safer on the streets today or in their homes than they felt 10 years ago??
More like suckers really, and where did ALL that money go?
Where is the Liberal promise of safer streets with a gun registry?
Canadians forget that the Liberals didn’t lose the last election – They were tarred, feathered and run out of town…
“The Libs cannot beat Harper on the issues, so they’re trying to beat an honourable man on gossip”
LOL, this is GREAT!!! The sooner fatty harpo and the rest of the bleathing, hypocritical rightards are gone the better!! Keep shooting yourselves in the feet, Cons! LOL BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
if the CPC planned to pay cadman’s widow the million bucks out of it’s own bloated coffers, no actual policy was required…
Well,Ronny Jingo,this is about vote-buying,you know like the libs enticing Belinda over with a cabinet position? You seem to have taken a page out of the ethics commitee book,they will not allow questions about KHS dealing with libs because after all,it is the conservatives that are the bad boys. The libs are all rainbows,apple pie and extra sprinkles on your donut.
jeff davidson, what is it about “insurance policy” that you don’t understand.
Everybody seems to have a theory on this one – documentation would be nice. If Mrs Cadman and author are so sure of themselves, let them name names, and fact the defamation consequences.
Put up or shut up; you too jeff.
Jeffy boy,are you saying that it wasn’t an insurance policy but a pay-off from the party? Then why all the talk about a policy? Was Chucky and his bride confused? Was George Bush bankrolling Harper? Are the insurance underwriters being paid off to keep quiet about the policy? Where was Harper on 9/11?
jeff davidson – you’re right, but you need proof about a number of issues:
1) That the CPC actually DID offer Cadman a 1 million dollar life insurance policy.
2) That this money would come from their own coffers
3) That such a payment would pass their auditors and Board of Directors
Could you provide some evidence for the above?
I suspect that the CPC did offer Cadman some financial consideration to make up for the loss to his insurance policy if the House fell.
I strongly doubt that it was for a million dollars for the above reasons – there ARE constraints and rules on spending within any party and all monies must be audited. I strongly doubt that the Board of Directors, who are not under Harper’s authority, would permit such an action.
I do suspect that Cadman did, however, tell his wife that he would make up his own mind (as Harper said he would) and that no-one could ‘affect his decision-making process’..Not For A Million Dollars.
The phrase Not For A Million Dollars is as common a phrase used to emphasize commitment as ‘I Swear On My Mother’s Grave. Use of either phrase doesn’t mean that either the million dollars was offered or one’s mother is dead.
On the one hand, we have the public record, where Cadman said on three separate occasions he was offered no benefit. On the other hand, we have claims he told his wife and daughter as he was dying that an offer was made that doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. Gripping hand, the MSM is slathering and faling over itself to get any kind of story it can.
My conclusion: It’s all crap. I don’t believe ANY of it.
lets be clear….Cadman was an MP until he was no longer an MP, and that means after losing an election, not when a writ is dropped.
So Cadman would had to have LOST election or not run.
The fact that he could roll over his insurance policy into a private plan no questions asked is the telling point.
Everyone seems to admit that financial considerations were a matter of discussion.
Those are facts. Now try to fit your theory incorporating those, and then start looking for additional evidence.
Additional Theories
1) CPC offered a series of additional life insurance policies that they would pay for, it has been stated that you can get policies up to $250,000 no questions asked. CPC would pay premiums….
2) CPC offers Chuck to run as a con in the election and pay his election expenses and pay his policy when it rolls into a private plan, should he lose….
3) CPC offers cash outright.
Ok, which theory makes the most sense, seems the most plausible, easiest to implement and involves nothing illegal. Seems 2) would be the plan you would go through….I could see 1) being a close second.
Perhaps there was an offer to get him an additional policy if ran as a tory, that could have been made available to him under the CPC “corporate plan” if he was a party employee (being a candidate makes you so I believe, a fact to be checked)
There are ways to simplify this and have all sides still be correct in their stories, nobody is lying. An offer of a million dollar policy on its own makes no sense unless you get implications at the insurance company level, potentially fraud by the agent or an uinsurance company so wedded to the cons that they could this past shareholders…..insurance company would have to be private to do that, a public company wouldnt be able to make this fly by all of the controls someone like that has.
As well, an insurance company would be put under some pretty nasty scrutiny by the Financial regualtor if this got out…what other duff policies have these guys written etc etc. So why you would threaten your insurance license is beyond me.
1 or 2 make more sense to me than other theories.
Once we satisfy this one what pressure is building on the Liberal leadership candidates reagrding the loans and debt they took on….be curious to find out when those loans get turned into donations, which have caps….how are they getting out of this one.
Szabo is calling for an immediate public inquiry into Schrieber. He doesn’t want to wait even the 2 to 3 weeks until his committee releases their report. The libs are running this story up the flagpole. I think that an election call is coming down sooner rather than later and the libs platform will be alleged tory corruption as they do not have any policies. Why else would they want an inquiry over a 13 year-old affair immediately?
ET has it nailed again. One could easily say he would not sell his vote (and who knows what the LIEberals offered, if anything?) “Not for a million dollars.”
A grieving family who wanted to help the sale of a book that would not have a wide appeal might now interpret it to mean something all together different than first intended. It’s amazing what grief can do (speaking from experience)to the mind and even one’s judgment. The first three years are the worst.
BUT, if they believed it did happen and Mr. Cadman was terribly upset about it in his final days, I would think that as a party member I would have mentioned it to another party member at some point – without waiting for a convenient book unveiling.
Now we will see how many friends within the party come forward to reveal that the family did share this. They definitely haven’t been silent all this time about an issue that has obviously rankled them so much.
this is a fantasy, there are no such policies. no questions asked? these have so many disclaimers even Richard Warman couldnt find an opening or a payoff.
1) CPC offered a series of additional life insurance policies that they would pay for, it has been stated that you can get policies up to $250,000 no questions asked. CPC would pay premiums….
Hold the presses. It may all be true. I just saw a commercial from Norwich Union that makes it look quite easy to obtain a HUGE insurance policy. No medical exam NECESSARY. Hah,Steffi is right again.:)
Here’s the big trouble for Harper…he appears to have known about the meeting and some type of offer, and that such offer was being made in the context of addressing financial concerns of the then-dying Cadman.
I’m not sure what others will think, but to me, the biggest troublesome quote for Harper is this one:
QUOTE
“The offer to Chuck was that it was only to replace financial considerations he might lose due to an election,” Harper says.
Here’s the relevant Criminal Code section:
QUOTE
Bribery of judicial officers, etc.
119. (1) Every one is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years who
(a) being the holder of a judicial office, or being a member of Parliament or of the legislature of a province, directly or indirectly, corruptly accepts, obtains, agrees to accept or attempts to obtain, for themselves or another person, any money, valuable consideration, office, place or employment in respect of anything done or omitted or to be done or omitted by them in their official capacity, or
(b) directly or indirectly, corruptly gives or offers to a person mentioned in paragraph (a), or to anyone for the benefit of that person, any money, valuable consideration, office, place or employment in respect of anything done or omitted or to be done or omitted by that person in their official capacity.
Consent of Attorney General
(2) No proceedings against a person who holds a judicial office shall be instituted under this section without the consent in writing of the Attorney General of Canada.
Criminal Code s. 119
In my opinion, when the consequence of an MP’s vote is dissolution of Parliament, and therefore, financial consequences to him, preventing him from voting to prop up the government by offering to “replace the financial considerations he might lose due to an election” is a blatant offer of valuable consideration in respect of his official capacity.
My opinion does not change for the better for Harper if the offer was only for an uncontested nomination in the next election…to me that is a blatant offer of an office or employment in respect of Cadman’s official capacity.
I am bright enough to know that we don’t yet know everything about this whole issue, but there absolutely needs to be a full RCMP investigation…because there are a number of versions of what happened here (some of which I’m apparently hearing in Harper’s own taped words) which would squarely fit within the Criminal Code definition of bribery.
The Liberals are up a creek without a paddle. It’s a good time for Harper to call an election to put them in the sewer lagoon where they belong, they can smear each other. No government can tolerate that kind of behaviour in and out of the HOC. That’s not what we send them there to do.
Liberals can’t win on policies so they’ve gone to the gutter to get material to TRY to bring others down to their level.
Let’s have at ’em.
You can’t get life insurance policies for someone who is medically certified as within a terminal illness.
No, you may not need a medical exam for a policy worth 250,000 but you still need to answer questions on the policy application, and if you fail to disclose your medical condition, that nullifies the policy.
Again, the issue comes down to several things: One, the Agenda of the Liberal Party at the moment.
Two, the Truth of what happened re Chuck Cadman.
With regard to the Liberal party, their agenda is simple. Smear Harper. That has been their only agenda with regard to Harper, starting from ‘hidden agenda, ‘scary Harper’ and all sorts of names, to their attempt to link Schreiber-Mulroney to Harper (failed).
Their unethical strategy is part of their own mode of operation, whether it be using taxpayer money to pay for Liberal election work in Quebec, or bribing Belinda Stronach with a cabinet position, to trying to bribe Grewal, to visiting Schreiber in prison to arrange tactics, to working with a CBC reporter for Rodriguez to ask questions outside of the mandate of the Ethics committee…on and on and on. That’s The Liberal Way.
So-what really happened with Cadman? Remember, Cadman himself said that no offers were made to him. Why won’t the Liberals accept this?
Again, two CPC members did visit him, that’s to be expected. They knew that he was concerned about finances; they offered him financial assistance – which they say was to cover his re-election expenses if the gov’t fell. And even, that if he wanted to return to the CPC, he could. Or, if he wanted to run again as an independent, they wouldn’t mount a CPC candidate against him. That seems entirely plausible.
The one million dollar life insurance policy is not plausible; the ‘set’ of several smaller life insurance policies is equally not plausible, for all of them, on finding out the insured was terminally ill at the time of signing and KNEW it, even without a medical, would refuse to pay. The scandal of such a situation – would be enormous.
I suggest that Cadman told his wife and daughter that he wouldn’t change his mind or take any offer (the CPC help with his re-election)..not for a million bucks.
Again – that’s a common saying; it doesn’t mean he was offered the impossible – a million dollar life insurance policy. Or even, a million dollars from the CPC coffers- their auditors wouldn’t allow that.
But, the Liberals, who know only the corrupt world, aren’t interested in the truth.
Why does the name ‘Stronach’ keep popping into my mind? Who could afford to pay a dying man a million dollars? The day Mrs. Cadmen claims the policy was ‘offered’ was before the Liberano’s PUBLICALLY succeeded in bribing Belinda across the floor with a cabinet post – she didn’t need money…..
The CBC adscam uncovering happened at a convenient time for ‘unka Mo’ and the comrades of the ‘one world communist government elitists’; Mr. Hawkins was ‘uncovering’ a much less savory connection the Liberanos had with the $$$ for oil deal (the UN oil-for-food arrangement changed into the oil-for-$$ arrangement – ever wonder where the ‘seed’ money came from???) set up with Saddam Hussein. It was all going as planned until the intrepid president of the United States, President George Bush, marched into Iraq! Feathers were flying in the ‘Unca Mo’ gaggle of geesy Puffins, one can just imagine – how to keep the taxpaying peons from finding out! Give them something else to ‘chew’ on – Adscam was the lesser of the two scandals (after-all the ‘Quebec issue’ was a semi acceptable scandal in comparison to the planned enslavement of all the people on earth!) The msm in Canada and in the USA collaborated with their masters (the kyota crowd) with all the ‘air power’ they had – they managed to turn his heroic invasion into Iraq into a fanatical hatred for President Bush who was attempting to keep the chains of state slavery off the people of the free world.
Chuck played a very small role in this massive cover-up but I do not believe that he was proud of his ‘role’; I saw his face that day in the House of Commons – it had Tragedy stamped all over it and his tortured steel blue eyes were those of a hunted, crippled, dying wolf. My heart hurt for him. Chuck’s daughter and wife are very selfish people, in my opinion, to be trying to make hay from Chuck’s gut wrenching decision to vote for them instead of principle – that Liberano government was a illegitimate government, it had already been defeated, Chuck in full health would have never, IMO, supported such an aberration of democracy; under any circumstances.
All in all, I see no proof, no evidence of anything improper.
And remember, innocent unless proven guilty.
No proof, just accusations, and from highly questionable source, Mrs. Cadman. I don’t believe her. Why is she saying this to the media, rather than to the police? Why after so long? What is her true agenda? Is she in cahoots with some shady Liberals? Gotta ask.
The spotlight must be shone on Mrs. Cadman. She must be asked to provide proof.
And the author of the Cadman book must turn over any and all evidence, all originals, to the RCMP. Has he? Doesn’t sound like that.
And there’s the reasonable suggestion that the tiny, “scratchy” clip being hawked by the author might be doctored.
The Liberals… and the MSM… are on thin ice.
If this is a conspiracy to use mere unbacked accusations and scary headlines to harm the Conservatives’ image in the public mind… it’s going to backfire.
I’m counting the days until proof is provided…
Demand proof. Absent proof, start a lawsuit.
NEvertheless, people who don’t like the Tories to begin with will believe the accusations anyway.
Anyway, I smell Liberal desperation as being behind what’s going on, at a time when the Liberals appear to be dead in the water. They may be trying to do whatever it takes to put some wind in their sails. Don’t forget that they’re crooked. And still under police criminal investigaion (3 dozen investigations ongoing).
Jema: You touch on something that should be expanded upon.
How would Chuck Cadman have voted if he was in good health?
Maybe Johnny Ringo can explain why Chuck Cadmans last act as an MP was completely at odds with everything he had said or done in his entire career as a Parliamentarian.
Heres a quote from Chuck with his thoughts on the Liberals
“This was a wake-up call for the Liberals. Their arrogance has given way to complacency and a sense that they can do what they want with little or no consequence. Well, today that arrogance caught up with them,” says Surrey North MP Chuck Cadman. “All of their self-righteous protestations about dirty tricks and theatrics don’t hold water. There was absolutely nothing underhanded about what occurred today. The opposition expressed its displeasure with the actions of the government. That is one of the roles of the opposition. The Liberals were embarrassed as well they should be.”
Doesn’t sound much like a guy who would support a corrupt regime – unless there was some kind of extenuating circumstance.
“Daughter urges Dona Cadman to run as an independent” CBCnews.ca
Jodi Cadman told CBC news she talked to her mother friday by telephone and asked “Why are you running for the Conservative Party if you are accusing them of this?”
“If it was such an indecent proposal, How are you in good conscience running for that particluar party?”
Dona Cadmans campaign manager Bill Zemiansko claims there’s no problem sticking with the Conservative Party.
“The prime minister supports her 100 percent and she supports the prime minister 100 percent,” Zemianski told CBC news friday
Well she sure has a funny way of showing 100% support for the PM. Iam thinking now that after the profits from the book sales reach a certain point OR the RCMP find no Wrong Doing nothing but pure speculation. That Mrs Cadman will step aside as the CPC canidate in her riding, all she then has to say is maybe she was mistaken, Sorry. But KaChinnnggg.
Too much Jerry Springer going on here.