Breaking!!
Liberal sources are disclosing that there were additional elements to the Cadman bribe!
In addition to offering a patient in the final stages of terminal cancer a one million dollar insurance policy, Harper is reported to have offered Cadman a unicorn, and a magical forest in which to ride his new beast.
Although experts unanimously agree that unicorns, magical forests, and million dollar insurance policies for terminal cancer patients, don’t actually exist, Liberal insiders are firm with their allegations.
Said one source close to Dion:
“Look, if Harper can manage to hold onto power for over two years, pass three budgets, a crime bill and maintain his Afghan position, with three left leaning parties holding more seats than the CPC, he can certainly produce unicorns, and insurance policies for dying patients.”
Meanwhile, the Globe and Mail is sending its crack team to investigate the obviously legitimate concerns of Conservative unicorn production. Stay tuned.
“….and a magical forest in which to ride his new beast.”
Great line, and green at the same time.
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Just watched CTV’s Mike Duffy on their Ottawa affiliate CJOH…
giving his take on the brouhaha that will, no doubt, come to
be known as CADSCAM.
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It was my understanding Mr. Cadman was also promised a partridge in a pear tree.
In Mrs. Cadman’s defense, its possible Mr. Cadman did say things like that. They save the really -good- drugs for end stage cancer patients, because they need ’em.
Are Liberals really this dumb, or is Stephanie Dion angling for a sympathy vote?
Cure the troll chorus…
Kate please don’t forget. PMSH can part the seas for unicorns as well.
Re: “Harper is reported to have offered Cadman a unicorn, and a magical forest in which to ride his new beast.”
Let’s be careful out there.
Saskatchewan Ministry of Environment
2007 Hunters’ & Trappers’ Guide
Pg. 6 – if a hunter accidentally kills a troll by causing it’s head explode then the hunter shall immediately field dress the troll, then call the local conservation officer to report it.
‘n’they taste just like chicken, there’s no limit and the season opens in the morning!!!
I have no personal knowledge of what may / may have not been offered to Chuck Cadman.
I knew Chuck. I even organized meetings where he spoke. Perhaps he even considered me a friend. He got into politics after his son was murdered. He was one of people whom I most greatly respected. While I disagree with the way he voted to support the Martin government, perhaps now I understand more of why he did so. It was said that he had a majority of responses from his riding requesting that he do so. Had he been offered any inducements, that would not have sat well with him. Chuck was straight up. He is sorely missed. I am proud to have known him.
It would not be at all unusual for the party to want to know how he might vote. That’s simply good strategy. Thus a meeting would be normal.
*** The two un-named party officials that spoke with him regarding his vote should come forward ***
If the party officials crossed the line by offering inducements, then they need to be held accountable.
I find it utterly implausible that Mr. Harper would condone anything illegal. I also KNOW that Chuck was a man of his word and if he said something happened, then personally I believe him.
Small potatoes compared to the Liberal scandals, but very troubling…
R.I.P. Chuck. I miss you.
At the time of the Cadman vote I suggested that Cadman voted the way he did in order to prolong parliament because he did not want to fight another election.
Now it turns out I was right as evidenced by Duffys comments.
Duffy goes on to say:
Mike Duffy: “Can I share something with you, which I haven’t shared publicly until now? … And that is in private conversations with me, Chuck Cadman told me, that there was no way he was going to vote against the Martin government, because he was concerned of the potential impact it might have on the insurance settlement for his wife Dona. In other words: if he died while a sitting MP, Chuck told me, ‘that would double or virtually double the payout to his widow’ and he didn’t ‘dare take a risk forcing an election’, even if he was confident of being elected, for fear of some legal hassle involving an insurance payout”
Yet in an exerpt from his book Cadman supposedly says the following;
“He didn’t tell Dona how he’d vote – in fact, he wasn’t sure himself, he said, until about half an hour beforehand. But after he was told about the poll’s results, Dona knew in her heart he’d vote in line with the opinion of his constituents”
(http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/307953)
So to me this point out two things.
First of all Cadman put his own personal agenda ahead of that of his country, his parliament and his party. He was voting in his own self interest. Perhaps this makes him a “typical politician” but it also points out to me that he was not the unselfish person he was made out to be.
Secondly,what I gather from the two quotes above is that apparently Chuck Cadman lied to his wife, lied to his family and lied to the Canadian public.
Horny Toad
Horny Toad:
Come off it! When a poll of his riding, (possibly) personal self interest and (possibly) unhappiness about a questionable offer all point one to vote in the same direction, then there is no conflict. He simply had three things saying vote that way and none of consequence saying vote the other.
Nice to see so much jocularity on the Titanic…
Jocular, Lavrentiy, because until Dion girds his loins this is all a tempest in a teapot.
CPC are ready, NDP are ready, Bloc is ready, Greens . . . who cares.
Libs, umm, not so ready.
Cheers,
lance
** Meanwhile, the Globe and Mail is sending its crack team to investigate the obviously legitimate concerns of Conservative unicorn production. Stay tuned. **
Oooops; . . three years too late. = TG
here I thought that Kate’s post wuz ligit, until I read “Meanwhile, the Globe and Mail is sending its crack team to investigate the obviously legitimate concerns of Conservative unicorn production. Stay tuned.”, and I know well that any CRACK team the Gloob and Mal has could only be used to investigate prostitutes or drugs!!!
Hi Kate; you are have some great posts here. I really think that PMSH and his Conservative party are making an end run again. It amazes me the the Liberals, NDP, GP and Bloc are really figuring that the Canadians are going to forget about how much Cretian and Martin stole, minipulated the oppistion when in power.
It is like calling the kettle “black”. These parties in the above mentioned in CAPS have stole from the Canadian taxpayers long enough.
PMSH and his party have tabled laws, taxs, incentives that are actually are doing things for the average working Canadian. Instead of catering to the few in minority that are holding out thier hands and whining for special rights and more money.
It is going to take many years of “what they call the far right thinkers to right the way politics, law, social groups and whiners”, to actually make head way in the wide world of supposable, “the popular thing for the day, the incentive of looking after the populas from CRIB TO DEATH THERIORS”.
We are facing an election in Alberta on 2008 03 03, I have voted for the conservitives because there is really no choice yet of any great oppisition party on the side yet. Thier is a new party called the Wildrose Alliance that is making headway. I am going to be watching this party for the next 4 years to see what they make of themselves. Alberta is facing the same thing that Saskatchewan went thru with the NDP. It is time for a change from 45 years of rule from the conservative ideals. I am sure hoping that Stelmac is not a fence straddler like Getty was. Merle Underwood.
Iberia,
** jocularity on the Titanic… **
You mean the Mercer skit on CalgaryGrit?
http://www.calgarygrit.blogspot.com/
Yes, I agree.
BTW, those new *Young Liberals* ads seem like a backfire eh?
That*s a classic set of wheels. Why change perfection? = TG
Was this a white or black unicorn???………………..come on Volik jump in and finish the story. He he
For what it’s worth I’d say a Liberal unicorn with hopes of becoming the next US president?
As It Happens has a great radio interview with Tom Zytaruk
http://www.cbc.ca/mrl3/8752/asithappens/20080228-aih-1.wmv
I wonder if he called his mom after he left the interview…
More over at the Broom….
mr. cadman is dead. i recall making an observation that while ill he was making some unusual decisions. keeping a corrupt government in power for personal gain, is that honorable?
by the way, the people of his riding did not vote liberal did they?
Anyone for The Irish Rovers?
Wasn’t Belinda Stronach bribed by the Liberal Party on the eve of a confidence vote?
Do I care about Mulroney and Schreiber (sp?)and their exchange of $300,000? No!
Do I care about the still missing of millions of dollars of Canadian taxpayers money that lined the pockets of Liberals? YES!
Enough of this charade emanating from the Liberal Party – they need to be punished at the polls!
What about the real bribe. Anybody remember Belinda? Croseed the floor and got a cabinet post? Thats how the grits stayed in power.
Leading off with the accusation was Dion, garbling off in his marble mouthed English followed by all the other hungry, adoring Liberal fans of Cadman standing to accuse. A spectacle like no other.
Without a doubt this is about as juvenile and low as the Liberals can go. They’ve gone to the grave to construct a scandal and help an obscure author launch a book. If this is the kind of gotcha politics Liberals want to play we should all have a chance to put their arses right out of Parliament and fast.
“Opposition MPs trying to understand how the Conservatives planned to compensate Chuck Cadman” Globe and Mail
Trying to understand? If they’re alleging scandal, aren’t they supposed to know?
When Cadman voted to support the Liberals, I was very disappointed in his decision.
Now I find out part of his motivation was that he wanted to protect his MP life insurance plan.
I don’t necessarily believe that that was the only factor in his decision on how to vote (but based on Mike Duffy’s comments it could have been a key motivator).
And if it were, I for one am OK with it. Who can deny a man putting his family first?
The latest poop on this magical scandal is that the Liberals now claim Harper Bribed Levant to give up his parliamentary seat???…
… and we also see that heavily edited copies of the Harper interview tape are being hawked for $500 a pop by the Cadman book’s author…I detect the dark stench of mendacity
No evidence. He said, she said, she said, he said, etc.
Cadman never said anything about a million bucks, nor a life insurance policy, which is impossible to get for terminal illness patients.
The alleged “smoking gun” tape? Pleeeeze! Produced by a guy hawking a book and selling the scratchy snippet of a larger tape? Which he hasn’t given to the police? Why after all these years, not going to the police? I saw transcripts of it, btw, and see nothing probative, other than something to excite Liberals, who are living in a glass house wrt tapes, if we recall the Gurman Grewal tape proving that the Liberals tried to bribe Grewal to switch sides! The RCMP concluded it wasn’t doctored, so it’s proof!
This tape the author’s selling to the MSM? Let him turn over the whole original, unmolested, to the RCMP, for forensic analysis.
Let the two Cadman women be grilled with a polygraph and fully investigated for any hint of an anti-Conservative conspiracy (the whole thing with Mrs. Cadman stinks… why wait so long to say anything, and then not to the police, but rather as a Conservative candidate, at a time when the Liberals are desperate like never, ever before?
This is intriguing. And the spotlight must also swing onto those making the accusations.
I’d hope Harper/the Conservatives also expel Mrs. Cadman for breaking party rules against hurting the party by saying stuff that would hurt it… and sue the Cadmans for defamation. Let the Cadmans prove their accusations. Or not.
Why didn’t they all go to the police with this information? Why go to the MSM? Why NOW?
This stinks! Then again, politics is corrupting. No one is incorruptible, no one.
Go to the police, Mrs. Cadman and the guy selling the book and the scratchy audiotape snippet.
The Liberals,having been charged and convicted as a corrupt organization, by a judge, in a court of law; have no choice but to do everything in their(and their media’s power) to make the Conservatives look as corrupt as they.
The question is: Just how corrupt are the Liberals? Very,very in my opinion.
I believe Mr. Harper should appoint a special prosecutor to investigate any and all malfeasance in Ottawa over the last decade or two. Maybe a Supreme Court Justice for Shawinigate, one for HRDC, one for Technology Canada, one for the Gun Registery and so on.
Surely the Conservatives can bribe the NDP or Bloc, and give the Liberals some court time to keep them busy.
I can’t understand why the Conservatives do not pursue the Liberals over this.
Interesting that the MSM appears to be publishing misleading headlines again about the Conservatives.
The headlines are sensationalistic, but reading the stories is a huge disappointment. “Smoking gun”? What a laugh!
Maybe now is the time to haul the Liberal skeletons out of the closets all over the place.
And find out about the nine billion missing dollars in the secret “foundations”.
And investigate Shawinigate.
And investigate PAul Martin’s ties which place him in apparent conflict of interest, which I helped expose on my blog a while back but which was hugely ignored. I’m astonished that that stuff wrt CSL and all the other players Martin owed, plus the whole thing tied into an appointee wrt the ADSCAM thing.
I can provide the post(s) if requested, but I’m not holding my breath, as it appears that people only want to go after the Tories and protect the Liberals.
Thank, you.
Thank you very much.
I’ll be here all week, and remember to try the veal (er or baked unicorn).
GOOD GAWD.
I’d like to see Stephane Dion in a real fight.
He has to gird up his loins for these scandalous skirmishes, puffing out his chest as though he’s really accomplished something by the Librano$’ never-ending, trumped-up allegations against PMSH and his government.
’The very definition of “little.” In every way.
Far from hitting the mark, in trying to take the CPC government down, the Librano$ are showing utter contempt for our Parliamentary Democracy and for the poor, beleaguered Canadian electorate.
The Librano$ are swamp dwellers and would like to drag the rest of us into the sludge.
NO THANKS.
I have a few questions; why is Dona running as a Conservative? If the party had offended Chuck and herself as deeply as she says, why would she have anything to do with it? Why are we hearing about this now? Why didn’t Dona and her family torpedo the Conservatives during the election?
Smells like unicorn poop to me.
With no disrespect to the Deceased
A few questions come to mind, all that have spoke on the issue via the media have said that mr. cadman was a very honourable man & listening to those that knew him well. But something that troubles me is that if he was so Honourable then Why did he not Report the Alledged incident to Elections Canada & the Speaker of the House. He knew it was just a matter of time for himself, Would he not want to report this in his Dying Days if he was so honourable. Secondly his family is telling us that he said this on his death bed, Was he pumped with pain killers coherant or confused & incoherant, I would think that he would be telling his family that he loved them in that brief time that he had left. Anyone that has been with a loved one at their death bed Knows what it is like. Mrs Cadam is a canidate for the Conservatives, She shows no remorse in making these allegations Would you not approach the Leader of the party & inform him of the books release & whats in it. When you found out would you not report it then, What are the finacial consequences.And finaly Very Very strange that the Book & this issue is coming out at the same time, With a FootNote by Paul Martin(Who rec’d an advanced copy)Why would their also Not be a Footnote by the leader of the Party that he once belonged to?
Their are too, too many stange things in this & yes the RCMP & Forensic Accountants should be brought in to examine everything, Phone calls, bank accounts & of course the $500 tape, These are very serious allegations.
If you replaced Stephen Harper with Jean Chretien or Paul Martin in this story, you would all be singing a different tune. But it’s OK. I know that you all have one set of rules for your guys and another for your “enemies.”
“I have a few questions; why is Dona running as a Conservative?”
Paul Martin broke his word to a dying Chuck Cadman who, in return for his vote, was promised, or influenced some might say, that the Liberals would pass crime legislation.
The Liberals eventually broke their word to Chuck, of course, like they did on the deal with Buzz Hargrove and the NDP, and they paid the price by losing power.
Speaking of Chucks, I am pleasantly surprised to see the tough SOB Chuck Strahl doing so well. I can only take inspiration from Solzenitzen, who, after spending 8 years in a gulag, developed serious cancer. That was over 50 years ago. Hell of a story.
Something is bothering me about the whole Cadman affair.
1. Paul Martin writes the forward to the book…Did he in fact help the author write it?
2. Martin probably thought the election was going to happen in spring 2008…Was he planning for this book to come out during an election campaign in order to cause the Conservatives to lose?
3. As Donna Cadman says her husband was really angry about the offer…Then why run for the Conservatives AT ALL?
Was it her intention to villify the Conservatives during the campaign by agreeing with the premise of the book?
Was it her intention to help bring the Conservatives down?
4. Dion has been itching to go to the polls…even though their numbers are down…why?
Did Martin and he know that this explosive book was coming out and they wanted to time it for the election?
I think Martin and Dion were colluding…
The only problem is some in the Liberal caucus were dead set against going into an election….thus thwarting the Dion/Martin plan.
Plan B… get the book out now.
Something sounds REALLY fishy to me.
But what do I know…
I’m only a 61 year old mother and grandmother.
just shows how desperate the Liberals are to get their collapse on the Budget and the Senate’s approval of the Crime Bill off the front pages.
The folded like a cheap suit and Steffi has an internal revolt happening but voila, a “better” story.
Is this all the Lieberals can think to do? Constantly trying to dig dirt but not having a whit of sense of maybe governing this country?Is this what “opposition” means? I thought it mean’t that they were to oppose legislation not trying to tear each other to shreds. Now they have pulled poor Chuck Cadman from his grave to parade around the commons floor. They should be so totally ashamed of themselves.
People get a grip, this is a “book” written by an author whom has a vested interest in getting his book sold. This is a supposed quote from a man who was on hallucinatory drugs. This is a “he said, she said” incident that should never have gained the prominence it has. If people would use their brains they would know that an insurance policy of one million on a dying man is an impossibility.
All you Lieberals out there should be hiding in shame that you have dragged a dead mans name through the mud for political gain. You should be asking where the 40 million is that your team stole from the taxpayers.
The Lieberals will go to all ends to try to cover their puffin doodoo with whatever they can find, even a dead mans reputation is not safe from them.
Too bad the F*$%^&g G&M wasn’t sending “crack teams” to investigate those malfeasant Liberal bastards that governed Canada and fed their Quebec cohorts with stolen tax dollars.
MSM the Liberal enablers.
Let’s also recall the smooth ride martin got with
getting Stronach to turncoat.
cbc, National Newswatch-“Daughter Urges Dona Cadman to Run as an Independent”
“The Prime Minister supports Dona Cadam 100% & Dona Cadam Supports the Prime Minister 100%”
Bill Zemianski-Campaign Manager for Cadam told CBC News Friday.
Ya wanna Bet that Has Changed!
Canadian Politics
Liberals…juveniles running amuck in Ottawa… Keeping everything spinning…
then everyone is too dizzy to know what is coming down.
Conservatives…trying to run a reasonable mandate in the Demented Dominion
Peter D: “If you replaced Stephen Harper with Jean Chretien or Paul Martin in this story, you would all be singing a different tune.”
ARE YOU KIDDING?
If you replaced Stephen Harper with Jean Chretien or Paul Martin in this story, the MSM would barely have breathed a word about it, and the Canadian public would probably have never heard about Chuck…Who?
OR, if the MSM did feature it as a story, they would somehow implicate PMSH and his Party.
Wake up, Peter. Shake a leg. Open your eyes. The real story here is the collusion of the Librano$ and the MSM to run with a fabricated story as though it was factual.
Go to the back of the line.
Whatever perceived honour Cadman had, thanks to his wife, it will all be gone. He now exposed as a selfish little man.
Joe Molnar…”Too bad the F*$%^&g G&M wasn’t sending “crack teams” to investigate those malfeasant Liberal bastards that governed Canada and fed their Quebec cohorts with stolen tax dollars.”
Question: who broke the adscam story?
Answer: The Globe and Mail. See, moron, they sent out investigative reporters to investigate the Liberals and their Quebec cohorts. They uncovered stolen tax dollars.
Why are you guys so willfully stupid? I know you WANT to hate the media and the Liberals, but does it make any sense to make up history, and then hate the events that happened in your little make-believe fairy land?
Oh, and the Harper apologists on the Cadman affair are looking mighty, mighty pathetic on this one. You can twist yourselves into pretzels on the internet and try to laugh and shrug this off, but you know, deep down, that Harper’s no different than any Liberal. Hell, we’ve known that since he swore in floor crosser David Emerson and appointed a backroom Conservative hack to the Senate – on day one!
had it been the other way the headline at CBCpravda would have been.
“Cadman supports Harper Regime,maintains his double insurance payout as sitting MP”
and in small print at the bottom , other news – Cadmans crime bill passes.
years later the revised CPC crimebill is crawling its way through the senate, the libs screwed him out of the promise and he collected his doubled insurance payment as a sitting MP, sitting on a broken promise. cash for nothing.
like a rock hardly. his motives were personal and apparently the schist.
Power politics and public perception; will this “stuff” stick to the electorate wall? Should make for an interesting spring. He said, she said, she said, he said…, ugh.
We need a way to dispense with this kind of crap as quickly as possible, i.e. try to remove most of the political grandstanding. Is an RCMP investigation the way or some independent (good luck with that one) investigator?
I see the Conservative response is to smear Chuck Cadman, his widow and family.
Hmm. Tread carefully, my dear Conservative friends. I know SDA gets off on besmirching the dead, but you might find that this campaign of speaking ill of the dead is a little too soon for most people.
Ghouls.
The Ethics Committee is rumoured to be very interested in this latest Conservative corruption. Allegations are circling Parliament Hill that the conservatives have buried the facts,but the committee will dig deep to find the truth.
Has the CBC hired anybody to investigate the authenticity of the latest tape? Are they in the process of doing so? I guess they feel it’s not their job to question the tape’s content for context. It’s like with Schreiber: It doesn’t matter how unsavory he is, if his target is a conservative, CBC bestows INSTANT credibility on the man.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2005/06/02/dosanjh-tapes050602.html
The author selling the tape says that it’s in its entirety. Apparetly Harper doesn’t say Hi or Bye. You pick up the phone and he’s already in the middle of a conversation.