J.J. McCullough’s reality check in WaPo;
One of President Trump’s darkest talents is his ability to identify an opponent’s delicate spot and stab it remorselessly. From his knack for condescending nicknames (Low Energy Jeb, Little Rocket Man) to inviting Bill Clinton’s various accusers to the second presidential debate, there’s no denying the man has a skill for knifing sensitive spots.
And now he has found Canada’s vulnerable flank: dairy tariffs.
Though Canada enjoys broadly free trade with the United States through the North American Free Trade Agreement, it has never been absolute, and the deal makes several concessions to Canadian protectionism and politics. Chief among them are Canada’s extraordinarily high tariffs on American dairy products, which at last week’s Group of Seven summit in Quebec, Trump correctly identified as a “270% tariff.” As the CBC reminded, “Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out.” These tariffs exist almost exclusively for the benefit of the agriculture sector of Quebec, a province with a unique stranglehold on Canadian politics.
Trump has cited these “unfair” dairy tariffs again and again in rationalizing his desire to retaliate economically against Canada, and though one can easily question the common sense of starting a mutually destructive trade war with one of the United States’ closest allies over this, it’s equally wrong to dismiss the subject of Trump’s annoyance as frivolous. The Canadians certainly don’t consider it so.
The wisdom of the dairy tariffs is a source of debate and second-guessing in Canada, and we can’t take for granted that voters will stand foursquare behind Prime Minister Justin Trudeau as he insists that dairy protectionism is something he’s “100 percent” ready to defend.
Trudeau has, in fact, all but bragged about instigating the latest conflict, stating prior to the Quebec summit that the “reason why Donald Trump continues to write tweets on dairy products and Canada — it’s because I’ve told him many times: ‘No, he won’t touch, we won’t touch our supply management system.” This is a curious calculation, both as foreign policy and domestic politics.
Here in Vancouver, most of the dairy in my local supermarket is produced by dairy companies based in Quebec, some 2,100 miles east. I can buy a half gallon of milk from the Agropur dairy cooperative of Longueuil for $2.85, or get a 16-ounce bottle of “Milk-to-Go” from Saputo Inc. (Saint-Laurent, Quebec) for $2.31. Buying a pound of Agropur butter costs $4.87, while 1.5 pounds of Saputo cheddar will set me back $9.74.
These prices are, as the U.S. president might say, terrible deals. Less than an hour’s drive south, comparable products sell for half as much in the United States, which has led to the preposterous spectacle of cheap Canadians crossing the border on milk and cheese runs, propping up the economies of border towns such as Point Roberts, Wash.
To call this a minor triviality of Canadian life is to ignore one of the country’s highest-profile policy debates of the past half-decade. In 2012, centrist Liberal politician Martha Hall Findlay provoked the conversation by running for her party’s leadership on what was a mostly one-issue campaign to abolish dairy tariffs. Though ultimately unsuccessful, her taboo-breaking crusade inspired a deluge of favorable editorials that helped make “supply management” — the Canadian jargon for dairy protectionism — a household phrase.
On the conservative side, libertarian former cabinet minister Maxime Bernier faced cries of hypocrisy when, as minister of industry, and later foreign affairs, he was forced to endorse the tariffs. In his subsequent run for Tory leader, he atoned for past misdeeds by campaigning hard against supply management, calling it the work of a “cartel” forcing high prices on Canadian families “to protect 10 percent of farmers” in the country. The fact that Bernier, a Quebecer himself, narrowly lost several Quebec ridings to rival Andrew Scheer was widely interpreted as evidence that the dairy vote played a significant role in the outcome.
“I certainly do not owe my leadership victory to anybody,” Scheer joked at a press gallery dinner, taking a showy gulp from a Saputo milk carton.
Support for supply management is a difficult issue to poll, largely because the Canadian public has only the dimmest awareness of the status quo. Yet judged by their actions, culture and temperament, it does strain credibility to believe that there exists a broad-based constituency in favor of paying more for a basic staple in order to further benefit a province already widely resented for its coddling by Ottawa.
Yet this is the trade-war hill that Trudeau has chosen to die on. He has alienated the entire western half of his country through bungled oil and pipeline policies, and now his path to a second term in next year’s election seems increasingly tied to maintaining the goodwill of Quebec.
Americans do not have spotless hands when it comes to using unfair measures to protect their own sacred industries, yet it’s a myth to believe Canada has ever had much interest in running hard in the opposite direction, and embracing the sort of unqualified economic integration with the United States equivalent to that enjoyed among member nations of the European Union, or one American state to another.
The consequences of this long-standing approach, which has always been grounded in economically regressive nationalism and politics, will now be felt. For centuries, much of Canadian policymaking has been justified on the grounds that maintaining sovereignty from the United States is the highest good. It works fine — so long as the United States never feels the need to indulge in a bit of pompous sovereignty of its own.
The op-ed is paywalled, so I’ve quoted it in full.
Trump isn’t bluffing on NAFTA, just as he wasn’t bluffing on DACA and he wasn’t bluffing on the Paris Climate Agreement, and he wasn’t bluffing on the Iran deal.
Read that again. While deservedly directed at an “insulted” Trudeau, those words were written for a different audience: the world’s #1 leader in bad faith diplomacy – North Korea.
With Trump, nothing is ever completely as it seems.
Though the next 2 days or so in Singapore may be telling, I think the North Korean leader “gets it” that Trump means what he says, does what he says, whereas the Canadian leader does not.
While I like and support the idea of Canada having a farming community worth supporting, indicating that they’re incapable of competition by the use of the propping up of a Canadian milk cartel by this 270% +/- tariff structure is idiocy.
American dairy farmers have taken a beating for decades from foreign competition, not to mention technology (witness Wisconsin’s attempts at keeping margarine demand low). Which means that American dairy farmers know full well what their Canadian friends are in for when these price supports end. And of course, the Canadians know it too.
Ref photo of Trump’s grandfather’s BC brothel.
Who’d a thunk it…. two generations later they’re still dealing with Canadian whores.
Let’s get rid of our dairy tariffs no problem. On condition of:
– USA eliminates all farm subsidies including 22 billion a year for dairy which enables them to sell BELOW cost. Why do you think those tariffs exist?
– eliminate the unjustified and illegal softwood lumber tariffs. WTO and NAFTA panels agree with Canada.
– no NAFTA sunset clause. To even propose that is ridiculous. Any side can trigger a review at any time.
And drop the 10% discount on Canadian crude.
That’s the market.
The market because of the Liberals.
The discount existed well before they came into power.
Yepper; Time for Quebec to fish for becoming a Canadian Province in Full or go and cut Their own bait.
…or Canada could just subsidize their dairy farmers
“…or Canada could just subsidize their dairy farmers”
We use a kinder, gentler word: grants.
You’re just making things up. Total US agriculture subsidies are just over $20 billion a year and dairy is only about 4% of that amount.
Canadian ag subsidies are about $8 billion, a hugely disproportionate amount of protectionism considering we have just 10% of their population.
And those newly converted free traders in Europe? Over $50 billion in farm subsidies alone.
The US is consistently one of the world’s freest markets and has been an engine for global prosperity for decades. Where would China be today without US consumers.
Meanwhile, how many foreign banks do you see on Canadian streets? Telecom companies? Media content? If you want to build a pipeline or refinery today, will it happen in Canada or the US?
How many Americans cross the border to shop here?
Nice to get the truth rather than Liberal talking points. There is also two sides to the lumber issue. Nice to get the truth rather than Liberal talking points. There is also two sides to the lumber tariff dispute.
Yepper.
Canada could compete in the Canadian AND US markets wth specialist cheeses and liquied milk products.
But the dairy argument is just an stick to beat Canada with and if the Government doesn’t understand that, then we are lost.
LOL or we can ask a Yorkie to bite a Rottweiler while at it, see how well this will work out.
“Why do you think those tariffs exist?”
In order to protect Quebec mafia while harming the rest of the country.
Sorry, Allan, but this $22 billion subsidy you claim is a really lame assertion you made up out of thin air to try to help your boy Trudles.
Remember the last refuge of a scoundrel is always patriotism. I would think you might get a little bit upset over Justin’s absolutely vacuous premiership and failure to get absolutely anything of value accomplished to move to Canada forward.
But who’s to say you love your country more than you love the Liberal party?
https://www.downsizinggovernment.org/agriculture/subsidies
I don’t think he made it up. As Ken said yesterday,there was a website you could visit that showed the various subsidies to American farmers.
As usual, there IS no hard and fast “truth” to any political issue.
Thanks Don.
From the site Don found. “The federal government spends more than $20 billion a year on subsidies for farm businesses. About 39 percent of the nation’s 2.1 million farms receive subsidies, with the lion’s share of the handouts going to the largest producers of corn, soybeans, wheat, cotton, and rice.
The government protects farmers against fluctuations in prices, revenues, and yields. It subsidizes their conservation efforts, insurance coverage, marketing, export sales, research, and other activities. Federal aid for crop farmers is deep and comprehensive.”
The site does mention dairy subsidies in this category, nor in the food subsidy, which is over $100 billion, section of the site. Chip mentioned 4% is allocated to dairy, which is a drop in the bucket.
And, it is our dairy and poultry marketing boards that Trump is targeting, not the rest of the agriculture subsidies.
Allan,
If what you say is true, why would you take issue with the American taxpayers subsidizing your grocery bill?
What about the $8Billion in farming subsidies received by Canadian farmers. Are they voided out as well? And that figure is using US dollars…not Canadian.
See, if Just-not had a brain, he would be making those arguments to Trump. Neither country has clean hands, but Trudeau’s holier-than-thou crap won’t wash with Trump.
“As CBC News reported then, the scam involved individuals jamming cases of “brick” cheese — used as a common pizza topping — into their vehicles to smuggle across the border and resell to Canadian pizzerias and restaurants. With U.S. cheese being as little as one-third the price it is in Canada, drivers are making $1,000 to $2,000 a trip, according to numerous sources. Authorities say more than $200,000 worth of food was purchased, and sold at a profit of more than $165,000, according to a CBC investigation in 2012.”
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/niagara-cheese-smuggling-cop-resigns-1.4209945
That’s because theirs is heavily subsidized
Yes, it’s subsidized and that probably won’t stop but supply management is worse, imo. If Quebec, or other provinces, wants to subsidize their dairy industry then it should be their responsibility. They can use equalization money. When have they shown any concerns or loyalty to western Canada or even the rest of Canada’s economic interests?
So you’re on K Bec’s side. Good for you.
I’m on the side of free trade.
You’re on the side of free trade which is why support tariffs protecting Quebec mafia. Typical libtard.
Supply management isn’t free trade. It is a Bolshevik concept that needs to be flushed down the toilet.
No you’re not, you’re a non -thinking party hack who reflexively parrots the Liberal Party talking points, and thinks you are clever in doing it.
I’d be on Québec’s “side” before I’d ever, ever be on the side of the US or any other foreign state.
Whatever our endless internal squabbles might be – whether with Québec or Alberta or BC – they’re still family squabbles.
I am amused with the irony that putative conservative voices in this forum would be inclined in any way to side with a foreign power against their own country.
The sad fact is that, in general, the US treats western Canada fairer than Quebec and Liberal governments in Ottawa. Our biggest economic risks and disasters have been designed by central Canadian politicians.
LOL as soon as Quebec develop loyalty to ROC and looses the sacred cow status they will be family.
You must be brain dead. Canada is going to get its lights punched out because Trudeau will stand up for Quebec and let the rest of the country fail. That’s the Liberal way.
How about Canadians’ side?
Canadians could be paying $ 1.00 for a staple food product like dairy.
Because that’s what it costs to make the product and make a profit.
Instead, we’re paying $ 3.00 for the same product.
The difference is going straight into the pockets of a select few.
Foreign power my a$$.
JJ whatever – get a little more creative in your defense of boy Truderp. It is lazy trolls like yourself who have left the Democrat Party in the US a flaming hulk that is burning towards the waterline. You wouldn’t want that fate to befall your dear Liberals, would you? Besides, it’s country first, for you, right?
Sounds like a Monty Python reboot. A combination of the Cheese Shop and Clock Smuggler skits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF_MEE51Yrw&fmt=6
OMG — that’s just like drug smuggling.
Will Trump force Trudeau to choose between the auto industry in Ontario or supply management cartel in Quebec? If Trump does then Trudeau is forked.
I’m not taking sides, btw, just musing about scenarios. Then again, cheaper dairy products would be great.
If Trump really wants to piss of the Liberals and Trudeau then he should offer a big trade concession to western Canada.
I think Trump wants to effect our 2019 election, and the Turd makes it so easy. Lefties are not smart, ever, on street level dealings. 2013 study shows that.
I think that’s exactly what he’s doing, in addition to signaling ruthlessness to other foreign powers.
I don’t think the current gender studies majors running government and trade have a snowballs chance in hell of winning this trade war. They are going to have to be diplomatic and negotiate to minimize economic harm. Watch Harper’s interview yesterday to see how that’s done. He and Wall would be a good negotiation and diplomatic team.
“Delingpole: McDonalds Is Far Too Good for Gender Studies Graduates”
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/06/11/too-many-graduates-says-house-of-lords-committee/
That is exactly where it is heading, in the meantime either the CAW or the Quebec mafia will get a shaft. Pity they both can’t lose. Or can they?
Why am I remembering the lyrics of First we Take Berlin or Manhattan or vice versa; but thinking First we take Quebec — from being the Liberal Party Special Voting Bloc-supreme; — then we take Manhattan.
As far as Berlin or Paris or London;– heaven betsy — for any Canadian Politician saying They will send Canadian Children _Sons & Daughters _ into Harm’s Way for the European Union’s Cartel of Courtier Class of Bureaucracy planning for a new Euro Monarchial development.
I think Trump’s real goal is to break NAFTA with Mexico and prevent Canada from being a covert entry point for other countries’ products when the global trade war heats up a bit. Canada is small beer and popcorn to the Americans. He has constantly stated that he wants 1-1 deals, not multi-lateral deals that put in place unanswerable bureaucracies to enforce. Canada has done worse deals, with the EU. Yes, our products have a rght of entry to the EU, PROVIDED they follow EU norms and [rocedures and bureaucracy. Bit a lot of independence there, eh Canada?
Make a 1-1 deal with the Yanks, as we used to have, with the auto companies pointing out that they already have a unified, cross border industry with Canada and their business cannot afford the disruption of relocation.
Yep!
Um.. nope, it’s not dairy products that matter for supply management, it’s the CRTC. The dairy vote in Quebec amounts to a few thousand people, add some egg and pork producers in Ontario and you’re still below the margin of victory for most of Trudeau’s MPs. What really counts, however, is the CRTC : imagine that Trudeau agreed with Trump during the meeting and, on leaving, got a call from one of the people who control companies like Bell, Telus, Rogers, etc and you get an instant, logical, explanation for his behavior because it’s money, not votes, that moves the liberal party.
interesting post Rudy
It’s not just Quebec dairy farmers though. The government and media in Quebec would see it as a personal insult and betrayal. Quebecers would be livid.
I don’t think any voters outside of the cultural community actually care about the CRTC. It, like the dairy industry, is not consumer friendly.
In either case, the Liberals would jeopardize their crony capitalist and regional alliances though.
Yep the Quebecois national Bleau would Quickly become Liberal Red.
True enough. Free trade and open investment in the telecommunications sector would put the Canadian media out of business in no time.
Pretty soon after the Liberal Party would be out of business as well. The new owners of Canada’s media would have nothing to lose by exposing the Libranos, and plenty to gain in winning the trust of Canadians.
A truly competitive media sector, much like reality, tends to have a conservative bias—much like their readership. People who have their heads screwed on right are invariably conservative.
Yes, strange I’ve heard nothing about our telecomms industry, nor Banks for that matter.
Naw…..Canadians are brainwashed into thinking that the Canadian “way” is the best in the world….you hear that nonsense about medicare, etc. So it’s not so much about the number of dairy farmers, etc., but the myth that has been forced into the heads of Canadians.
I think that you may have hit the nail on the head with those remarks. As far as the CRTC goes it was probably the head of the CBC who conspired with the media conglomerates to twist Turdeaus tail to make him ambush an agreement that Trump thought had been made or at least been implied.
Will the next argument between Canada and the USA be NATO?
Trump will smash the Little Potato into the mashed variety with American milk and butter…Yummy!
Deporables ..??
Canada has been held hostage on most fronts by our friends the quebek traitor.
It’s not just dairy it’s everything. They claim to be an indepdent nation – sovereign. They are however willing to play the game of ‘have not’ and suckle at the teat of Canadian transfer payments. No mention of sovereignty or independence here.
Every decision made by the liberal government begins with, “what’s in this for quebek, ” quebekie must be placated, massaged and stroked. Constantly told of their uniqueness and value to the country.
Every slight, no matter how insignificant is a provocation, a demening slight for which the Anglo’s must be held to account and publicly humiliated. Apologies are never enough.
Trudeau’s old man ethnically cleansed the civil service as a sop to quebek. No longer is a unilingual Anglo qualified for a senior job in the civil service. Those jobs are bilingual and by extension reserved for quebekies.
So now the fool who runs the country finds himself on the horns of a crisis of his own making. He’s prepared to flush the rest of the country down the toilet to save the quebek dairy industry. He fails and it’s assured – he is a one term prime minister and full blown quebek revolt results.
That wouldn’t be the worst thing. Quebek will threaten to leave and maybe they will, but quebek of 2018 is not the same province it was 40 years ago. They might have to grow up and become a participant in the country on an equal basis.
I’m tired of the quebek traitor. I’m tired of constantly having to carefully chose my words for fear of offending some fwenchman who’s faux outrage has become so commonplace that it’s predictable.
I’m tired of the money that has to be funneled to quebek to be stolen by some Adscammer or librano insider.
I could go on but those on this blog know exactly what I’m talking about. I don’t care if quebek leaves. Good luck to you but don’t forget to pickup your portion of the debt we incurred at your expense on the way out
I agree they can leave for the reasons you stated. However there is no need for quebek to pay their portion of the debt.
How many years of no transfer payments would it take for us to break even and be in the black?
A quick cut of the cord and see ya later. Having money owed and other economic ties would only keep quebek sucking at the teat for many years to come.
Gosh all we have to do is make Highway 17 the Border between the Nation Of Quebec — with a name change and all of the Buildings North of Hwy 17 to become Hull.
Move the Federal Government to Manitoba as the center of Canada. The Atlantic Provinces? They all made their Bed in the last Federal Election. See how being part of the La Belle Nation as their Gift Givers.
Excellent post… unfortunately Queerbek isn’t going anywhere, they never were, but the empty hollow “threats of separation” sure worked as intended… burning down the Riechstag…. and good old Peeair, like his one time hero Hitler was there to save the day by giving Quebec french talkers the most equal status of all… as it remains.
Tired of it too ab… lived and saw soldiers on the streets, heard about the bombs in mailboxes etc Ocober Crisis. Was worried sick, even traumatized.
Lost everything and left, started all over. Speaking Pepsi hurt my brain, best move I ever made.
They can blow off.
Slow clap, McCullough!
Do we really think the US will eliminate their dairy subsidies?
a) I don’t trust Trump to try to eliminate them – he’d loose Wisconsin votes;
b) do we think the US congress will eliminate them? Even Navarro and Kudlow know that won’t happen.
The US has a history of Presidents negotiating deals that the Senate does not ratify
Congress will not get rid of the blasted ethanol mandate. The Ethanol Mandate does little, anything, to protect the climate. It harm engines, lowers gas mileage, but dang sure buys the votes of corn farmers.
David – absolutely correct, and it drives up corn prices to food producers. US agriculture management.
Popcorn bought, Sofa cleaned, remote in hand….lets see what the French Aristocrat (in his diminutive mind), does…Im betting he dies on the dairy hill, we lose Auto Pact, will be forced to Actually spend 2% of our diminishing GDP (1.3% at last look), on Nato commitment…unless we see some Floor Crossing from Liberals – page, like THAT would ever happen.
I love the US NATO commitment and then wanting other countries to spend what the US does on defence. The US problem is they spend lots of money stupidly on foreign wars.
You aren’t being asked to match us in spending — we have the larger GDP. You are being asked to pay the 2% GDP required of you as per the alliance treaty (we pay 4% by the way, but do not ask that of you).
The self-appointed intelligentsia and governors of our conscience claim to have Trump figured out, he just won’t play by (their) rules, he is bellicose and mean when perceiving a personal sleight.
So the knowledgeable ones proceed, led by our boy blunder, to try to poke a stick in his eye, to which he responds by shoving it up their …. economies.
The Quebec dairy industry is an anachronism which, if it cannot compete, should be allowed to die, leaders’ misunderstanding of national security tariffs notwithstanding. No more bailouts – do you hear Bombardier?
I hope Trudeau champions that industry and states it’s the cause of his life to save it. Political cynicism warning – the Tories don’t need Quebec but can do very well leveraging off her intransigence.
The media will chortle, but an instant solution is available. Just before the writ drops next year, declare a CPC government will dismantle the CRTC and CBC as vestigial appendages no longer of use in the Canadian body politic. That way our mediocracy will spin themselves into the ground, covering themselves at the expense of other issues. IOW muted.
A revitalized Sun-TV would be nice too, without the Fox style ad nausea of covering the same issue all day long, host after host.
Canada wasn’t even on the radar until the stupid one and his team of ingrates showed up, beating their chests to impress Quebec along with allowing them to interfere with getting Alberta crude to Eastern refineries.
I wonder if Spawn’s eyebrows will ever recover?
Whatever side you’re on, the consumer takes it in the hoop because Big Government Is The Problem.
FORD: We will stand shoulder to shoulder with the Prime Minister and the people of Canada. My number one goal is to protect jobs in Ontario, starting with my unwavering support for our steel and aluminum workers.
What now gents?
Well when Warren Kinsellan is applauding this statement by Ford then you know Ford has made his first big mistake.
If another member of the political class, no matter their political stripes, tells me that I must stand behind Trudeau I might just scream.
So we should just roll over then and let Donald Trump do whatever he wants to our country now and in the future? Because that’s the alternative. You don’t have to like Justin as a politician or a person to realize that siding with him here is objectively the best decision for all Canadians.
Ha! Siding with a clown is our best decision?
The world of big trade deals with superpowers like the US is a serious sport for serious players.
This is Trudeau’s mess not Trump’s. Trudeau completely miscalculated how to work with Trump. Backing our idiotic PM will change nothing at this point. His bed to lie in and in saying so it does *not* make me less Canadian.
You’re siding with your country against foreign bullying. Whether or not you think Trudeau is handling the situation well, the fact is that Donald Trump’s administration is needlessly antagonizing a long time friend and ally. Just because you dislike our PM doesn’t mean you have to stand for that.
Canada has been living off US military protection forever…..so much for your foreign bullying
Steel, alumnum AND AUTO workers.
Ford has no choice but say this, however, he could have a private word with Butts that maybe, just maybe, they are being played by the Cassius Clay of Diplomacy.
I can imagine that some folks in the US are busting a gut laughing over the umbrage and panic in Canada.
So what? When the time comes to support jobs in Ontario versus those in Quebec, the narrative will change.
If Ford’s serious about preserving the jobs of Ontario auto workers, he will do what is necessary to remove Justin Trudeau from office and replace him with someone serious about keeping the Canada-US border open to trade.
24 Sussex has Doug’s name on it. All it will take for him to claim it is a little courage.
Phone him up & ask him, whydontcha. I watched Derek Burney on BNN this AM practically frothing at the mouth over Trump, ignoring that PM S for B & his Di-woresity Gang have been flinging poop ever since the Donald was elected. Publicly, when they should just have SFTU.
I think the wind shifted & any sailor worth their salt knows you don’t piss to windward.
I appreciate the calls for Canuck patriotism being a jingoistic U.S. patriot myself.
I ponder the PM’s EU alignment. None of those countries can protect themselves without NATO (the U.S.) and most are heavily dependent on American consumers. Have you read about the latest oxymoronic state of German military readiness? With Russia a few miles away, someone needs to be the adult in that room. Trump is the adult in the global room. Thank God he has the confidence and cabinet to make the grown up decisions without becoming waylaid by PC groupthink bullsh!t.
You’re welcome.
Kudlow had a trade deal with Trudeau. They were changing words like “the” to “a” etc. (Kudlow says as much in the interview).
The reversal came from above.
This is the problem.
The negotiating team, likewise (and obviously so), was not serious. They are all a front for globalist handlers.
Can the average Canadian identify who is running their government? Are these people even Canadian?
I point this out without any anti-Canadian sentiment whatsoever.
The U.S. is in the very early days of chemotherapy (since Jan. 20, 2017) for the same cancer; and, ironically, after a POTUS who was not ‘American’. In fact, U.S. leadership was infected from the top in the post Regan era. Puppet Obama and Puppet Trudeau are the hallmarks of the globalist malignancy.
The reversal is not surprising. It just affirms the amateurish leadership typified by puppet representation.
The cancer here is a very real form of fascism. Globalism is the new fascism and there should be no surprises when ties to old school Nazism arise. They are evident and everywhere.
Fine post. Well said.
Amen.
Supplied the dairy industry here in BC for many years. What a lot of people do not understand is that dairy can form a huge building block for a successful farming community. The input costs for a modern dairy op is huge. Feed alone can diversify growing ops for suppliers. Building materials, vets, labor etc.
My big beef was that BC did not even produce enough white milk to supply BC. This is the lowest common denominator but quota was not available for increased production. Top that with Quebec producers who produced and controlled all the value added products like cheese etc. People look at Equalization and get upset that Quebec gets $11 Billion a year, every year. What they don’t realize is how much goes there through indirect subsidy like dairy, Bombardier and electricity. No mention of the mandatory positions held in the Federal civil service.
The folks F** ked by NAFTA & Canada’s trade policies.. ARE CANADIAN CONSUMERS… The Canadian Border control is all about protectionism, they claim it’s not tariffs, but instead collect provincial TAXES… A $17.00 bottle of Rum will cost $45.00 taxation because Canada won’t compete on pricing… (The Imported wholesale price is equal for both the USA & Canada).. I can’t remember the last time that I filled out a USA Custom’s declaration Form when traveling from Canada to the USA……. NAFTA doesn’t work the other way for ordinary “Consumers”… Business may get the benefit
My AZ winter friend from Tri- Rivers… loads 3 Coolers with Butter when returning to Canada… Even those from Quebec know they are being screwed….
NAFTA is dead IMHO and nothing will really change for the Average consumer,, all Canadian tariffs will be added to the Canadian Consumer price on top of existing protectionism….Canadians won’t mind paying more, but they will blame the USA… We in America will import from other competing sources.. The Canadian Steel Manufactures will move to Pittsburg….What’s not to like
The Marxists are screaming about Russian attempts to influence USA politics, but cheer another Foreign Country (Canada) attempt to influence the USA… Hypocrisy on steroids CBC.CNN&NBC fake outrage.. YES CANADA IS A FOREIGN Country..
BTW: I know what happens when you have a role in arranging a meeting between 2 leaders who find they don’t like each other. The President of the NBC Network left nothing in doubt about my continuing career . I was lucky he cooled off, but I never made that mistake again.
The USA NAFTA negotiators are Toast… better they move on than wait for hammer to hit
What really scared me about the whole renegotiation of NAFTA was when Captain Stupid said we would not cut a separate deal with the US, that Mexico had to be involved or no deal. That just smacks of Ideology and stupidity and will hurt us in the long term. We should of went in with the expectation to cut our own bilateral deal. The hubris that this government displays is truly appalling. You have a man that has an MBA (Trump) and his negotiating team of billionaires and seasoned pros vs. Trudeau and company. The entire lot of our team has no business experience and now blatantly evident, no grey matter either. We are well and truly f*$^ed!
The Altering of the Deal
Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis
“I would love to be able to bring back our country into a great form of unity,” Trump said. “Without a major event where people pull together, that’s hard to do. But I would like to do it without that major event because usually that major event is not a good thing.” – Donald Trump
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/chinese-newspapers-contrast-security-summit-success-g7-disarray-024102791.html
Chinese newspapers contrast security summit success with G7 disarray
SHANGHAI/BEIJING (Reuters) – State-run Chinese newspapers on Monday crowed about a weekend meeting of a regional security bloc hosted by China, painting it as a harmonious, anti-protectionist counterpoint to the G7 summit in Canada that was marred by acrimony.
The Global Times, a nationalistic tabloid run by the ruling Communist Party’s official newspaper, the People’s Daily, asked why the G7 had “ended in disarray” while the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) summit in the port city of Qingdao was “full of enthusiasm and ambition”.
The People’s Daily WeChat account showed two pictures side by side, one of Chinese President Xi Jinping walking with other SCO leaders, and the other of G7 leaders standing looking at a seated Trump with his arms folded.
“Look at the photos! Two summits on the same day – and the pictures are totally different from each other,” it wrote.
Justin will cave. He simply has no choice. He cannot count on the Canadian army successfully beating back an American invasion or that many of the park of sissies and feminists who pass for Canadian soldiers will try. Nobody wants to be the last to die for overpriced cheese.
The most likely scenario is that the Americans would enter Ottawa without a fight, and Canadians would instead use the opportunity to settle scores with the local Libranos and encourage Muslim and Chinese settlers to self-deport post-haste. Canadians have been permitted, thank God, to keep some of our firearms if the message isn’t obvious.
By contrast, Kim Jong-Un is perfectly capable of destroying Tokyo and can count on his people fighting to the last man, woman and child for the DPRK (on pain of being summarily executed for cowardice by their own if they hesitate to give their lives for Korea). Kim Jong-Un has to be taken seriously. Justin Trudeau does not.
Unless Trump can apply sufficient political pressure there is no hope of a trade deal until after the 2019 election. The liberals intend to live or die on this hill. So far their aim of rallying Canadains against Trump has been a spectacular success. Division is one of the main strategies that put him in power in the last election and they hope it will work again. If you were paying attention there were several times Washington felt they were close to agreement . The reasons it didn’t happen likley would be revealing.
Canada is the silly Boy Scout on the block and is easy to beat up. So the US starts on Canada as an example.
It is such a pleasure to see that SDA readers are not falling for this asinine “stand behind Trudeau” nonsense. But then SDA readers have always been an intelligent free-thinking bunch.
And speaking of tarrifs, Trump could just as well mention that here in BC grocery stores are only allowed to sell BC wines. The Americans have very rightly been up in arms over that for some time.
I am a Canadian and I love my country but we often think small and often behave like whiny spoiled children. Trudeau in many ways epitomizes that.
When we have a PM who cares more about gender rights in a trade agreement than the financial details of that agreement then we deserve nothing but a giant kick in the pants.
“It is such a pleasure to see that SDA readers are not falling for this asinine ‘stand behind Trudeau’ nonsense.”
It is not standing behind Trudeau to take our own country’s side.
I couldn’t much care less about our Dear Leader (I’d like to see him gone, along with his useless cabinet), but no amount of “free-thinking” or Trump-adoration justifies demeaning our own country in a dispute with a foreign state.
It’s not our job to serve US interests.
Dairy protectionism RIPS OFF Canadian consumers for the sole purpose of Qbec appeasement. Sorry, not blindly standing with Trudeau and his team of amateurs! Shiny Socks has a choice, negotiate a deal, or go scorched earth on his own country. Canadian consumers speak loudly with their wallets, crossing the border weekly for much cheaper dairy, poultry and gasoline, amongst other products.
Something that the convenient flag waivers and anti-Trumpers forget, at their own risk.
The US holds ALL the cards here. Trudeau wants to go all in ona pair of 3s, when his opponent has a full house. Bear and popcorn, all the while, the Canadian Media continues to carry Soy Boy’s water.
“It is not standing behind Trudeau to take our own country’s side.”
As soon as the fifth column sacred cow province takes the country’s side I’ll be right with them. Fact is they are cancer and if takes Trump to break their stronghold then be it.
And it’s not Trumps to serve Trudeau’s interests.
Right. We must persue our interests, not some self-preening ideological position.
Why this Liberal government fixation with a tri-partite deal, which the US has repeatedly said is not on the cards.
Our country’s side? Trudeau is signing Canada’s death warrant.
If you make free trade with the United States on favourable terms impossible, you make invasion and conquest inevitable. Either we get rid of Trudeau or Trump does it for us. Simple as that.
You can’t make an omelette without breaking eggs.
JJM, when you don’t understand the goings on, silence would be your best option. Trump can slap the spawn idiot down, and maybe some stupid voters will see that next election we need to NOT vote for the stupid rectum. When there is such an incompetent fool as the Turd, in charge, you do not stand behind him, you do not even make appear as you might be stand behind him. Now go give the Turd a BJ, so you can feel good about yourself.
You take the side of the “Post National State” and its imbecilic Canada hating ruler Justard, the rest of us will think for ourselves.
By serving US interests (at least in regards to being a bit more negotiable with regards to some of your trade demands, or at least considering ours) Canada’s interests are also served — as I sit here sipping a glass of cold, frosty, less than $1 a gallon milk (sorry, couldn’t help myself — your dairy farmers would probably do fine without such a tariff: it costs less for them to ship to their local areas so transport costs are far less).
Make decent deals with us, you get to keep access to the world’s largest economy — and you probably won’t be dealt with unfairly, at least certainly not as profoundly as you are by the EU and China, but likely better because it is good for US to have Canada doing well — you could even restart your own manufacturing and industry…to the benefit of lower cost and lower taxes which would improve the lot of your citizens.
And lest I remind: you do get a lot of value in being close to and allied with the US militarily, so perhaps that could be worth some consideration, no? That’s probably something to figure in and at least sit down, listen, and treat with us candidly and fairly (something your PM has not done thus far).
And your country has already demeaned itself by voting Sock-it-to-me into office: he and his advisors (like that atrociously dressed, vapid sounding Freeland) are an embarrassment….and a big insult to us…your so-called closest allies. Let alone what he is doing to the lives of your people (and will be doing).
Canada no longer gets to demean my country though — if Canada wishes to persist, then I could care less how painful it becomes for you; you have acted far too…European…towards my country for my tastes for far too long. It would be better to have better relations, but if not…then I think Peter Navarro had the right reply: burn in Hades. xoxo
Exactly.
lmao “intelligent free-thinking bunch.”
Your thought process boils down to liberal team = bad, conservative team = good. How simple can you get? If Trudeau went and declared that water is wet, I’d expect no less than a dozen rambling diatribes on here explaining exactly how and why water is indeed dry. You idiots are the epitome of party over country.
IWell first off Trudeu wouldn’t be intelligent enough to declare water is wet so that question is hypothetical.
Second, if the consequences of Trump’s actions are that we must rally behind Trudeau in the name of “country” then we are well and truly screwed.
And very practicality speaking rallying behind Trudeau will not influence in any way what the Americans decide to do next.
Indeed I think it is a sign of weakness to rally behind such a fool.
It absolutely will influence their decision. Trudeau wants to be re-elected above all else. If the Americans saw that Trudeau was being pressured by the electorate to give into their demands, they would have that much more leverage. As it stands, Canadians are saying that we’re willing to fight back in order to show that we’re not so easy to push around now and for future negotiations. It’s like politics 101.
Andrew, with due respect this is not war. This is a trade negotiation that our utterly incompetent, juvenile PM and his equally useless cabinet bungled badly.
In addition Trump is not all wrong here. He is rewriting the rules of trade and Trudeau was too stupid and too consumed with progressive nonsense to see it coming.
No one said this was a war, but you’re ignorant if you think that things like this won’t slowly escalate over the years if left unchecked. Look at Ukraine and Crimea for example.
But anyway I still honestly think your hatred of Trudeau is severely clouding your judgement here. We’ll know exactly how badly he bungled the thing once it’s over, and not before.
Trudeau won’t be re-elected
The Crimea ha snothing to do with anything. The Crimean has always been Russian since they kicked out the Turks. Or are you suggesting we should make a claim on Fort Ticonderoga?
“Canadians are saying that we’re willing to fight back in order to show that we’re not so easy to push around now and for future negotiations. ”
If you call someone’s bluff, you’d better be able to back it up. That rules out Juthtin.
Coming from a Liberal boot licker, that’s pretty funny.
Andrew, I’m the second stupidest in here, guess who beats me……
Shush, the grown-ups are talking.
Trump is a dangerous ignorant fool. No doubt about it.
Proof of it is there to see every time he opens his little mouth to utter his fatuous nonsensical drivel.
That being said, I have an equally low opinion of Trudeau.
The fool is Trudeau….I mean who in their right mind begins negotiations in regard to trade agreements by declaring they must consider gender equality and other nonsensical bullshit?
Yes, talk about sending a message “Hey, look, this guy’s a twit”.
Yes, the trade tarriffs will balanth themselves. Stand with Justard because he’s not Trump. Since when did Justard care about the “Post National State”?
Thank you Kate for the full quote.
For the stand-behind-Trudeau because Trump-is-evil crowd, you should read this:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-trumps-beggar-thy-neighbour-trade-strategy-is-anything-but-foolish
They would rather pay 4 times more for dairy than agree with Trump.
and they think we are the dumb ones.
too funny.
This article postulates that Trump is trying to disrupt the entire global economy for some slight and questionable advantage for the USA. And you use this as evidence that he’s NOT evil? Shouldn’t this convince us to stand against him even more? I must be missing something.
” I must be missing something.”
Trumps meeting Kim Jong-un at McDonalds in Sentosa for dinner….
…what’s choirboy doing?
I bet he was looking forward to it too. Chatting with malevolent dictators seemed to always be a favourite pastime of his.
I’m an American, Okie by birth, Cajun by adoption. And, pretty damn old, too. We used to think of Canadians as tough guys: miners, trappers, Mounties, you know what I mean. Now, you (well, some of you) come across as wimps, big time wimps.
A REAL MAN, with power and authority, comes to you and says, “Let’s make some trade deals.” You put on your pink caps and say, “No, let’s have sweet talks about gender and climate, you know, stuff like that.” He walks away, saying, “Call me when you’re serious.”
Your response? Why you pull those pink caps down over your ears and go POUT!!
C’mon now, I betcha there are some REAL MEN in Canada somewhere. Get one of those guys and get him to call Mr. Trump. Watch what happens. It’s really that simple.
It’s a man’s world, like it or not.
Paul
Do you really think the US would eliminate its agricultural subsidies?
Why would the US do that?
If something happens, the rest of the world is counting on the US feeding them…
…not even Cuba is counting on Canada feeding them
“Why would the US do that?”
Because subsidies are a moral and economic and fiscal abomination.
Yes Paul M. but please don’t confuse Canada with Trudopia. Canada was a builders country, a country that fought against fascism punching far beyond its weight, it was an English speaking country with a different national anthem and a different constitution, it was a Parliamentary democracy with a defined culture, heck our national sports both involved using sticks (Hockey and Lacrosse) and both had fighting in the rules…. wimps need not apply… Trudopia on the other hand is a french colonial country that cares not for its real history and culture. Trudopia is a one party State that pretends its constitutional ethno nationalism makes it “diverse” when it makes the exact opposite. There’s Canada and then there’s the Canada that the Liberal Party imposed without consent from the governed, two very different country’s that should not be confused.
“It’s a man’s world, like it or not”.
Well I agree PaulM. We had a real man running Canada who was an economist, Stephen Harper. The economy worked and he steered the ship well for many years. We have elections every 4 years and then Harper was voted out for no good reason.
We have been infected by that One World Government guy, George Soros and they rigged the election and stuffed the ballot boxes. The P.M. is a puppet of the Puppet Master, Mr Soros, like Obama was.
Paul, we are suffering for no good reason. In the meantime, as sick as this sounds, Canada is the laughing stock of the world. People need comic relief, we ridicule the P.M’s appearance and his sartorial flair or lack of it and all his other disguises. He once made a Canadian movie and wasn’t very good at acting, and was never very good at anything.
Sorry if this bothers you, it bothers us too. I heard all Trump’s campaign speeches and I’m pleased that America is back on track. Trump will go into history as one of the greatest Presidents. I wish he were ours.
If you think Trump-a guy who can’t go 15 seconds without moaning about how unfair everything is to him-a ‘real man’ then you aren’t a real man. Trudeau, as much of an idiot as he is, kicked more ass in a ring than Trump ever did.
Sorry, but la Trudeau isn’t a good boxer, so says another contributor to S.D.A. Even actor Matthew Perry could tell you something about a fist fight he won sparring with Trudeau when they were kids.
I was raised to have great respect for Canada, especially the RCMP. Both countries have been seriously watered down.
No amount of self-congratulatory sophistry about being “free-thinking” will save your political credibility or restore your personal integrity if, as a Canadian, you’re so bitter over Trudeau, the Liberals, Québec and whatever other gripes about our country (real or imagined) that you’re ready to become a cheerleader for the US out of ill-conceived spite.
So rave on, mes amis. We all know what you really are.
You are a little bit delusional,OK a whole lot.
The Liberals,by their actions,theft,betrayal and destruction , have made it clear they do not respect the citizens of Canada nor any rights these citizens might imagine we still have.
So when the useless twit,son of a draft dodging ,nazi supporting saboteur suddenly wraps himself in the flag and faking military style patriotism..,what conclusion might a sane person draw?
The fools and bandits who currently govern, have finally realized they are Fucked.
President Trump told everyone what he wanted,our fools bragged about their certainty that, “Mr Trump is a fool and cannot possibly mean what he says.”
I guess one of the other G7 leaders finally realized there is no bluffing in the USA’s stance and somehow explained this small detail to the Canadian Clutzes.
As for rallying behind dear leader, get real, I am well past ripping this country asunder.
Quebec is welcome to stay,the West needs to leave before we have to pay Ontario’s bill.
Quod erat demonstrandum.
How much of your anti American flag waving, Canadian solidarity, Canadian cheer leading was in evidence when US funded “charitable” Foundations funded the demise of a major chunk of western Canada’s & the country’s economic well being & resulted in Energy East, Gateway, possibly XL & most likely KM pipelines being shut down, with the active complicity of this LPOC .gov?
With jerks like you on our side, we don’t need enemies. Same goes for the twats in Central Kontrol, yuk yukking on trade deals with “stoopit Trump”.
Yeah, except that our country is currently being run by a globalist stooge while the U.S. has at least a chance of breaking free of this poisonous, crazy ideology of fantasies and lies — so if that for you is patriotism, you are welcome to it.
I don’t think Trump is a perfect opponent for the globalists, but what else do we have? Our own political class have fumbled every chance to oppose, the best we ever got was some kind of go-slow accommodationist surrender.
Trudeau and his handlers know that his one chance to retain power is to play the anti-Trump card, he is otherwise out of the game. And it may work, obviously Trump is very unpopular in Canada even before this event, but I hope that Canadians can figure out for themselves (the media won’t tell them) that globalism is our real enemy and Trump is just a little more realism than they can handle in their delusional little world. And who made it a delusional little world? The LPC and the Canadian globalist media.
ITT, mindless babbling about ‘globalists’….whatever those are.
@ JJM
Pure sentiment.
Trudeau is a globalist. This is not, by definition, Canadian.
I don’t think the free thinkers here (sophistication, not sophistry) are as bitter at Trudeau as you sir have been convinced that Trump is a Canadian adversary. That is the straw man you are wrestling with. Trump is removing trade architecture which has held the U.S. bound in ways which, in reality, also contribute to the large overall trade deficit Canada faces every day.
The dairy tariffs are totems of what the U.S. requires for its steel industry. This is a matter of national security, (actually for both countries). Inexpensive Chinese steel is not a secure dependable resource. Its current abundance and cost have beleaguered both U.S. and Canadian production and refinement capacities.
I don’t think Trump actually cares much about butter and cheese issues. The Chinese/Canadian back door structural metals are quite a different issue.
Let’s also keep in mind, that before the grand reversal, a trade agreement was on paper. Kudlow spoke of this (probably in the early stages of a heart attack) in the interview posted in the previous “Art of the Fail” thread.
Trudeau was agreeable the whole time. So, given your faith in him, could it have been that bad for Canada????
I think not. Canada could actually do very well. Perhaps we’ll never know how well.
I think the true sophistry here is carried by commenters who are waiving the Canadian flag. This is a nationalism without patriotism.
In the end you have made a less than subtle accusation of treachery. In return I’ll counter by labeling your efforts fascist.
“Inexpensive Chinese steel is not a secure dependable resource. Its current abundance and cost have beleaguered both U.S. and Canadian production and refinement capacities.”
No they haven’t and even if it did it does not matter. The US produces as much steel now as it has for decades.
“a trade agreement was on paper.”
Was this one that sucks Canada into a quasi-customs union with the US, thereby importing their protectionism?
I’ll indulge you once.
1. “no they haven’t and even if it did… “
Blustering grammar school silliness. Learn how to form a rebuttal.
In the U.S. Steel production crashed at the end of the Regan era when the globalists disguised as Republicans took many elections including the presidential election of ’88. these people are referred to as establishment Republicans.
Since 1950 the U.S has lost over 500,000 steel and related metal manufacturing jobs.
In April 2018 Canada produced 1.9 million tons of steel.
U.S. produced 6.9 million tons.
China: 76.7 million tons
https://agmetalminer.com/mmwp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/growth-china-steel-industry-vs-US-2000-2015.jpg
2. ..it doesn’t matter…
Well, yes it does. perhaps in a future Chinada you’ll happily suck ChiCom toes for a living. I prefer to have control over the means of production of wealth to include a robust iron mining, refining, and steel production industry.
3.Was this one that sucks Canada into a quasi-customs union with the US, thereby importing their protectionism?
No. That was NAFTA.
Remember 1 thing; The Chinese and the Russians are not globalists.
Once again, quod erat demonstrandum.
Pure sentiment.
Trudeau is a globalist. This is not, by definition, Canadian.
I don’t think the free thinkers here (sophistication, not sophistry) are as bitter at Trudeau as you sir have been convinced that Trump is a Canadian adversary. That is the straw man you are wrestling with. Trump is removing trade architecture which has held the U.S. bound in ways which, in reality, also contribute to the large overall trade deficit Canada faces every day.
The dairy tariffs are totems of what the U.S. requires for its steel industry. This is a matter of national security, (actually for both countries). Inexpensive Chinese steel is not a secure dependable resource. Its current abundance and cost have beleaguered both U.S. and Canadian production and refinement capacities.
I don’t think Trump actually cares much about butter and cheese issues. The Chinese/Canadian back door structural metals are quite a different issue.
Let’s also keep in mind, that before the grand reversal, a trade agreement was on paper. Kudlow spoke of this (probably in the early stages of a heart attack) in the interview posted in the previous “Art of the Fail” thread.
Trudeau was agreeable the whole time. So, given your faith in him, could it have been that bad for Canada????
I think not. Canada could actually do very well. Perhaps we’ll never know how well.
I think the true sophistry here is carried by commenters who are waiving the Canadian flag. This is a nationalism without patriotism.
In the end you have made a less than subtle accusation of treachery. In return I’ll counter by labeling your efforts fascist.
jjm, you keep harping on this , as if you are an ignorant of fact fukk, now FO already
We stopped buying milk years ago. What fool would pay Canadian prices for milk?
Trudeau’s move with Trump was as stupid as telling Obama, when he called to congratulate Trudeau for winning the election, that he was pulling Canadian fighter jets out of the Syrian effort. It was an unforced error. After having dithered for several years, Obama promptly turned down Keystone. We can now expect something comparable, thanks to Trudeau. Another unforced error.
Trudeau craves attention at these events but is not taken seriously. Obama hated Trudeau more than any other leader (except Putin) with cause. A general described Trudeau as the second cousin at the family gathering that no one likes and who’s always doing stupid things to get attention.
Here we go again. One might have thought he learned a lesson from Grizwolds in India, but evidently he can’t help himself.
The comment from Trump that was note perfect was the one about Canada burning down the White House. Trudeau was too thick to realize he was being mocked for being thick. Of course Canada is not a security risk to the US—the security risk is erosion of domestic US steel and aluminum production. Victor Hansen’s new history of World War II is excellent from the strategic point of view on the sustainable capacities of economies (including strategic resources) in times of war. But then Trump went to military academy and seems to understand strategic thinking. Trudeau, double not.
I like the boxing analogy about Trudeau, since he likes that as a fitness activity.
As in the ring, all Trudeau ever does is spar, fully protected from injury (though I did see a video of a sparring partner knocking Justin on his butt). He thinks he’s boxing, but he’s not.
Then he goes up against a real fighter (not a coked out fat boy) name Donald Trump and he gets knocked out by the right hook, as the Donald easily fends off Dustin’s leftist jab.
Cult worship, the post.
Supply management is evil and must be eliminated, but Turmp is as usual casting rocks from a glasshouse. This glasshouse is made of about 15 billion dollars in dairy subsidies.
What are farmer parasites going to do when we get milk from yeast?
http://www.perfectdayfoods.com
Breaking News.
Larry Kudlow has been hospitalized with a heart attack.
Someone get Justin out of the fetal position and in front of a tv camera apoligizing to President Trump.
He has some bridges to rebuild.
Those globalists at the G6.5 and the Canadian media didn’t really get it first time, but this is all about Trump as leader of the world’s anti-globalist forces. He was basically just blowing off this virtue signalling exercise, as every American president should have been doing all along, but of course, we had the three stooges following Bush 41 who got much of this madness started with his thousand points of fright. (“read my lips, no more Reagan.”)
Doug Ford may get a better read on this over time, but for now he’s playing smart politics since he already has the pro-Trump segment of public opinion locked in for want of any other patron. He might as well get a few brownie points and drift away from the sinking Trudeau ship of state later on when they run out of lifeboats.
“this is all about Trump as leader of the world’s anti-globalist forces. ”
So he’s the general of The Great Tard Army to fight the ‘globalist’ bogeyman that exists in your head? Have fun with that. Confirms my suspicion that once Trump is done, nothing will remain of his ‘legacy’ except a more powerful left.
American hating Canadians (of which there are many) have determined that bongo has hit it out of the park.
A knock out.
Bongo has his election platform. He stood up to Trump.
Jeebus give me strength.
US dairy farmers receive 73% of their revenue from government subsidies – $22 billion. Our import duties simply reverse the subsidy. We provide a similar level of support by overpricing milk to poor people. Because we have identical support just funded differently, milk was left out of free trade. If Trump wants to get rid of his subsidies, lets go for it. Does he really want to give Wisconsin to the Democrats? No more than Turdeau wants to give Quebec to the Conservatives.
https://www.realagriculture.com/2018/02/u-s-dairy-subsidies-equal-73-percent-of-producer-returns-says-new-report/
So….let me get this straight …..Trump hands trudeau’s balls to him in a hand basket and all the usual suspects come out in defense of boy blunder . If I owned a gerbil it would know better than to double cross our largest trading partner to the south but then again that’s asking too much of a pot head . What is really telling is the response from the rest of Canada’s political class. They couldn’t wait to hop on the pity express as it left the station . Not surprised at all with the so called PC leader in Ottawa but even the Trump wanna be that just got elected in Ontario . Canada has absolutely no leadership…….The bottom line is that trudope should have shut his mouth…………………………………….
The Guillotine,because it is our heritage.