30 Replies to ““Drive, Baby, Drive!””

  1. Great analysis by an actual lawyer who understands the law.

    Should be required viewing by those well-meaning but misguided individuals who still don’t fathom what really happened there (and why). Protestations that, “He shouldn’t have been in front of the car!” are tantamount to “He shouldn’t have made it so easy for her to try and murder him!”.

    The officer involved made a judgment call…that the normal looking, middle-aged woman driving the car would do the expected thing that any reasonable, rational adult would do when confronted with an officer standing in front of her car to block her escape from lawful custody: shut off the car and surrender.

  2. The lethal force was legal and justified IMHO. This and many other incidents are potentially opening salvos in an almost inevitable civil war of the great partisan divide and in any war, morality becomes something easily dispensable. The Marxists have dispensed with the rule of law when it comes to immigration and the populists currently in power are back to enforcing it. Ironically, the Marxists will selectively hide behind it and attempt to be on the politically correct side in pursuing this case.

  3. That was an excessively long and mealy mouthed session of copium.
    In the end, a deadly weapon can be a knife, bat, pipe, gun…..and a vehicle.
    It doesn’t have to be aimed, gestured, or even loaded, to be clearly identified as such.
    When a LEO’s life is threatened by such weapons, deadly force is justified to defend himself.
    This isn’t precedent setting, whatsoever. Plenty of prior examples of these type of situations, where, the Mensa driver gets FAFOd.
    Of course, the left is parsing the whole matter, selective cherry picked snapshots, weasel word excuses “legal observer” and other such BS.
    She disobeyed lawful orders to exit the vehicle, instead, drove it at a LEO, and he lawfully responded. Clearly.
    Yet, look at the waves of Useful Idiots with excuses, believing in outright lies.
    The facts of the matter are this. If LEOs are to let these peeps just drive away, all of their fellow travellers would do this all the time, in volume, resulting in ineffectual law enforcement.
    That’s Their Goal.
    The best comment I’ve seen says “If the two partners were at home licking themselves instead, she would be alive today”

    1. What’s the point of trying to make a stale joke out of Renee Good being a lesbian? Do you find her death amusing?

      1. Dense
        He was ‘quoting’ some one else, git libtard?
        And I thought it rather funny, must be you have no sense of humour, or perspective.

      2. Why shouldn’t he find her death amusing? Isn’t it at least as amusing as Charlie Kirk’s death? That’s your cue to start pretending that you didn’t delight in his death. Go on, I get a kick out of you failing to fool people.

      3. I find her death hilarious. She was a complete failure as a human being and the world is much better off without her. Now go simp somewhere else, a$$wipe.

  4. Maybe Ross was justified in firing once, but three times, with the second and third shots being taken while the person was not driving at him but past him? The excuse that the next two shots eliminates the threat doesn’t wash because that does nothing to stop the vehicle from careening uncontrolled down a street. He violated protocol by walking in front of the vehicle in the first place and if he’s not at least disciplined for that, then ICE amounts to a lawless paramilitary force. My sense is that this case is never going to get to court at all because the Trump administration has made it clear that they’re not going to cooperate with local law enforcement in the investigation. On countless occasions of ICE enforcement actions they’ve also made it clear that they view violations of protocol and due process as irrelevant anyway, so I doubt that this needless tragedy would change their minds in any event.

    1. “My sense is that this case is never going to get to court at all because the Trump administration has made it clear that they’re not going to cooperate with local law enforcement in the investigation.”

      My sense is that you aren’t ever going to admit that your take on this has already been rejected by all thinking people and the real reason there won’t even be an investigation by local law enforcement is because they have now seen all the available evidence. That evidence tells them that any such investigation is guaranteed to do nothing but make them look like petty, partisan losers.

    2. I get a real sense that you have never encountered deliberate human violence. A fight, of any kind, lasts briefly, and any plan you had going in is instantly and irrevocably changed by your opponent. Oh, yes, there are rules going in, but in a brawl, like this encounter, the rules become really simple – fight or be defeated, by all and any means. And the driver didn’t understand that either. She’s dead because she didn’t understand the consequences of her actions. I tell my karate students “Don’t make a threat unless you are prepared for the consequences and you won’t know the consequences if you don’t think about it first”. She didn’t think and just reacted with the goading insolence of her current partner.

      1. “Oh, yes, there are rules going in, but in a brawl, like this encounter, the rules become really simple – fight or be defeated, by all and any means.”

        And make your decisions in a split second as well.

      2. No such thing as a fair fight, only fights you win or lose.

        The only court case that should happen from this is the one that should happen when the ‘wife’ gets charged.

    3. There was an article on Insta yesterday that linked to a SCOTUS ruling, highlighting the relevant text. It appears, once an officer starts firing, they can keep firing until the source of the original threat is neutralized. It doesn’t matter if the threat continues. I think it had to do with some LEO putting 15 rounds into someone, or something like that, which went to SCOTUS.

      1. “Yesterday that linked to a SCOTUS ruling, highlighting the relevant text. It appears, once an officer starts firing, they can keep firing until the source of the original threat is neutralized. It doesn’t matter if the threat continues.”

        That has been standard procedure for years now. All law enforcement officers are taught this right from the beginning.

    4. Oh you ignorant git. Law enforcement are trained to fire three times, because in most situations, one bullet isn’t enough to put a threat down. You TDS sufferers are all the same: evil little f&cks who deserve nothing but contempt from actual human beings.

    5. Dennis, Had you been the officer:
      1. You would not have walked in front of the car.
      2. Having been hit by the car, you would have made the thougthful split second calculation that the last two shots were from the wrong angle.
      I suggest you apply to be an ICE agent.

    6. Dennis,
      If the first shot is justified, then all the rest are as well. There was a famous case in New York, some 20 years ago. An unarmed man, Amadou Diallo (sorry if I spelled it wrong) was ordered by an officer to “freeze!”. He didn’t speak English, and reached into his coat, perhaps to get out his ID. All the officers present took it the wrong way. I think something like 40 shots were fired. It was ruled justifiable, because how could the officers have known his intention?

    7. Sure Denis, sure.
      It’s the same logic as, he should have written her a sternly worded letter before firing.
      She FAFOd. Interfered with LEO and used her car as a deadly weapon. If she was holding a gun/bat/knife, you don’t stop firing until they either drop the weapon, or, drop themselves,
      Play Stupid games, win stupid prizes.
      And stop thinking with your FEELS.

  5. In which direction was she moving the steering wheel; towards or away from the ICE agent who shot her?

    2. He was in front of the car. He wasn’t watching the wheels. He heard her gun the engine and he got hit by the car.
      Had the road been dry, he could have been hurt seriously.

  6. This shooting is exposing the fact that these useful idiots are being used to oppose the enforcement of laws and the President’s agenda. Some of them are paid, some of them are “trained”, the effort is directed, coordinated and funded. The media is fighting like hell to hide this fact. Waaah, this mother of 3, a paragon of virtue and innocence and a member of a protected class is shot by the bad fascist Orangemanbad. All of a sudden the Somali & Democrat corruption and funding of the Dem party is off the front page. They will fight like hell because the mechanism of using laundered taxpayer money to keep the Democrats in power in many states is being targeted. The money trail dissapears in a maze of NGOs and foundations but it’s a good bet they know exactly who’s doing it, individuals and governments. The administration is using the term “terrorism” to describe this effort. I’m not sure it has gone that far yet, it’s very close. But it’s 100% sedition and some public figures should be arrested for it.

  7. What does the LAW say about what the “activist Lesbians” were doing? Here’s what my AI says …

    Legal Framework for Interfering with Federal Agents
    Overview of Federal Authority
    Federal agents, including those from agencies like ICE, operate under specific legal protections that grant them authority to perform their duties without interference. This authority is rooted in both federal and state laws, which prohibit individuals from obstructing or interfering with federal law enforcement activities.

    Key Legal Provisions
    LAW/REGULATION DESCRIPTION

    18 USC 118 This statute makes it a crime to interfere with certain protective functions of federal agents. Violating this law can lead to serious felony charges.

    36 CFR § 1002.32 Prohibits threatening, resisting, or intentionally interfering with government employees engaged in official duties. This includes law enforcement actions.
    Implications for Local Law Enforcement

    Local police departments are not permitted to interfere with federal agents conducting their operations. Attempting to do so can result in legal consequences for the local officers involved. This separation of authority is crucial for maintaining order and ensuring that federal laws are enforced effectively.

    Community Considerations
    While witnessing federal enforcement actions can be distressing, community members are advised against intervening. Such actions can pose risks to personal safety and may lead to legal repercussions. It is important for individuals to report concerns to local authorities or advocacy groups rather than attempting to intervene directly. Understanding these laws helps clarify the boundaries of federal authority and the legal consequences of interference.

    Fine … talk about the “legality of the shooting” … but legally … these Lesbian activists were VIOLATING the LAW. They should both have been arrested, their car impounded, and their dog put in a shelter. Oh! And their child placed in a new home by CPS.

  8. Up until this shooting, I was convinced Ashli Babbitt was murdered. But this incident definitely changed my perspective. I suddenly see these two shootings as opposite sides of the same coin: An out of control woman zealot disregards a lawful order and pays the ultimate price. Ashli Babbitt was a hard core conservative, while Renee Good was a foam at the mouth liberal. But they’re both dead as the result of FAFO natural selection. It sucks, but they’re the ones responsible for their own demise.

    1. Well, but the cop that killed Ashley Babbitt was not at risk of his life and he wasn’t justified in shooting her. There’s no question that Ashley Babbitt showed poor judgment, and would have lived had she shown better judgment. The point is, though, that we don’t allow cops to just blow people away if they show poor judgment. The ICE fella here clearly had the grounds he needed to justify shooting, and the cop Babbittkiller did not.

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