The common narrative is that the indigenous tribes living in a particular area prior to European settlement were always living there. But that’s not really true, is it?
“Very convenient to cloak your claims in spiritualism. …No matter what your legends say, you didn’t sprout from the plains like the spring grasses and you didn’t coalesce out of the ether. You came out of the Minnesota Woodlands armed to the teeth and set upon your fellow man. You massacred the Kiowa, the Omaha , the Ponca, the Otoe, and the Pawnee without mercy …and yet you claim the Black Hills is a private preserve bequeathed to you by the great spirit. … You conquered those tribes, lusting for their game and their lands, just as we have now conquered you for no less noble a call.”
Especially younger generation bleats their hearts out that on the entire continent there was some kind of Kumbaya-Wakanda of N America.
And it’s because an entire generation grew up with CNN/Hollywood/Disney grooming where natives wouldn’t hurt a fly or perfectly drawn natives sing in cartoon musicals.
Many also grew up with summer camp. They teach the same but it may be worse because
summer camp is fun.
Just in the middle of “1491 (Second Edition): New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus” by Charles C Mann … very interesting read. Clarifies some modern ideas.
Yes! Great read; really enjoyed it.
The Cree and their Assiniboine allies pushed into central Alberta in the 1700s. The Sarcee of the Athabasca valley were pushed South onto the plains and the Beaver were pushed north. Why aren’t the Sarcee and Beaver claiming compensation from the Cree? Whitie wasn’t even here yet.
The HBC was certainly here in the 1700’s, the Cree succeeded largely because they had guns. Obviously the Chinook Mall whities were yet to arrive, although some sources suggest that Peter’s Drive-In goes back that far.
Suggested reading: The Wars of The Iroquois, George t. Hunt, The University of Wisconsin Press
Not much dijinuss fellowship and sharing to be found in these pages.
There used to be this tribe called the Neutrals around Southern Ontario. They kinda got extinctified by the Iroquois sometime after 1776-ish. And now there aren’t any.
Same with the Algonquins.
Funny how nobody mentions this stuff.
The history taught in Quebec used to (probably not anymore) mention the Iroquoi quite a lot as the French fought a war that lasted almost 100 years against the genocidal Iroquoi confederation that was expanding and erasing all others. The French allied to many of the first nations to fight them. The Huron come to mind, not sure if there are any left. The Brits allied to the Iroquoi scum by the way, even paid them to kill Catholics. Queen Anne sealed the deal i 1710 with the 3 Mohawk chiefs. Maybe that’s why nothing is said about them.
An informative article but arguing with todays Injuns and Awfls distracts from the original commie lie where the focus of attention must rest:
The claim of indigenous land ownership was completely foreign to Tribes who viewed the idea of “owning” land as ridiculous since it could not be carry it away, could only be temporarily defended from others. Hunter/gatherers aren’t even stewards or husbands of land and they knew this intrinsically also.
We know that clever Hollywood bearskin negotiation is a-historical because ‘indigenous land ownership’ is just another 20th century marxist manipulation, intended to sow division among in the west, taken up by the 21st century angry junior-high grrrls who run the world because they know everything.
Re the Mayas;
“In the 9th century (i.e. before the Europeans arrived) there was a widespread political collapse in the central Maya region, resulting in civil wars, the abandonment of cities, and a northwest shift of population.”
Civil wars?
A population shift, displacing whom?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_civilization
Indigenous people = murderous, bloodthirsty heathen. Pssst … just like the rest of us. Just lesser evolved.
Aztec originally came from what is now Sonora. (I also read somewhere they may have even come from what is now Nebraska.) They left the desert and 200 years of nomadic life later saw the eagle on the cactus killing a snake. People already there were conquered or pushed out.
https://www.historycrunch.com/where-did-the-aztec-come-from.html#/
well well well. didnt l just speculate about this here a cpl days ago?
there ya has it. right agin but scant ears and eyes perk up.
So, are the so-called “migrants” into the U.S. and Canada displacing the “indigenous” people who live there now?
Yes.
That’s why they try to align themselves with the grifting Indians.
The Indians are doing themselves no favors, especially with Islamists.
Same with BLM blacks – they’ll be the first ones culled.
FILTHY LIBERALS
They love Indians. They don’t like the uppity Brown ones, that try to run their Party, they Love the Brown ones that are displacing Old Stock Canada.
TRUTH is required. NOT reconciliation. Indians can suck on it.
They are the weapon of choice for Cultural Marxist
FILTHY LIBERALS
Our mere existence proves that we are all descendants of folks who beat the crap out of other tribes.
The dead losers did not get to pass on their seed.
There are a lot of similarities between the ‘Treaty People’ and the People’s Front of Judea as depicted in Life of Brian…
Reg: All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
PFJ Member: Brought peace?
Reg: Oh, peace? SHUT UP!
“What have the white Europeans ever done for us?”
You could add horses to the list, before peace. The Comanche used them to great advantage to attack other tribes.
A nomadic culture has no practical claim of land ownership. My French relatives landed on Ill d’Orleans on the St. Lawrence in 1575. That seems pretty indigenous to me. With no written language, infrastructure or any form of government, even one loosely organized, the Berring Strait Hiking Club has no more right of ownership to the land than the proverbial bear that shits in the woods.
“the Berring Strait Hiking Club has no more right of ownership to the land than the proverbial bear that shits in the woods.” Except that said bear, excluding humans with guns, pretty much owns whatever it wants…unless a wolf pack shows up. 😉
Traditionally, central and southern Saskatchewan lands were open because the buffalo roamed there. The Blackfoot and the Gros Ventre followed the buffalo.
The Gros Ventre were exterminated by the Cree and Assiniboines in their push west for the fur trading companies:
https://digital.library.mcgill.ca/nwc/history/10.htm
The Gros Ventre and Blackfoot saw no reason to trap beaver, so the fur traders brought in the Cree and Assiniboines as contract workers.
As a note, some Gros Ventre lived in the Niapwin area. That is where the rapids were. We all have heard of the Squaw Rapids dam near Nipawin. That is how it got it’s name.
1949 Blankets and beads: A history of the Saskatchewan River,
https://archive.org/details/blanketsbeadshis0000jame/page/30/mode/2up
Page 31
…The Big Bellies, or shall we tone it down by using the French name for them, the Gros Ventres, or Fall Indians, were located at the Rapids of the Saskatchewan near present day Nipawin and extended south and west from there. Slightly later, they were pushed into the country around Cypress Hills near Medicine Hat…