Err, no.
Via Bishop Hill, which is kind of ironic due to the study coming from the UofS. 🙂
From the full PDF (PDF, 378K, 5pp.)
“The interval from ∼230 B:C: to A.D. 40 was one of
exceptional warmth in Iceland, coinciding with a period of general
warmth and dryness in Europe known as the Roman Warm
Period, from ∼200 B:C: to A.D. 400 (23). On the basis of δ18O
data, reconstructed water temperatures for the Roman Warm
Period in Iceland are higher than any temperatures recorded
in modern times.”
Cheers,
lance
Well surprise, surprise……(Jim Neighbour’s voice)
It seems climate history has returned to the state it had prior to the “hockey-stick” and all the other nonsense.
The efforts to make the inconvenient “Medieval Warming Period disappear” have failed badly………
Examination of Alpine Passes, still blocked by glaciation, have yielded Roman and earlier Iron Age artefacts…verifying Roman era maps of roads traversing those passes….impossible today.
Left-liberal MSM “circles the wagons” as it digs into its AGW bunker.
The AGW Fraud was just “a trickle of unsettling errors” and “”Mistakes””.
It’s war: “guns”.
…-
“World’s top scientists to review climate panel
The Associated Press – Seth Borenstein – ‎1 hour ago‎
WASHINGTON – The world’s biggest scientific guns are being called in to mop up after a trickle of unsettling errors in the authoritative reports written by a global warming panel.
UN starts IPCC climate report “mistakes” review BBC News
UN to review errors made by Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Times Online”
sasquatch:
218 to 201 BC The Second Punic War
Hannibal of Carthage crossing the Alps with elephants coincides roughly with the Roman/Iceland Warm Period.
Thus a contextually helpful climate made Hannibal the scourge of Scipio…
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Hans. I think you got your scourges backwards. Scipio defeated Hannibal at Zama ( not the reefs either)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scipio_Africanus
They called it Greenland for a reason.
The same Nature website referenced at the top of this post contains the following editorial:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v464/n7286/full/464141a.html
Climate scientists are on the defensive, knocked off balance by a re-energized community of global-warming deniers who, by dominating the media agenda, are sowing doubts about the fundamental science. Most researchers find themselves completely out of their league in this kind of battle because it’s only superficially about the science. The real goal is to stoke the angry fires of talk radio, cable news, the blogosphere and the like, all of which feed off of contrarian story lines and seldom make the time to assess facts and weigh evidence. Civility, honesty, fact and perspective are irrelevant.
cal2:
Yes, I know that Hannibal was ultimately defeated but not before Hannibal had fairly successful romp throughout the Italian peninsula. See Battle of the Trebia, Battle of Lake Trasimene, Battle of Cannae Thus Hannibal was a scourge to the Romans for a considerable period.
Massinissa, leader of the Massyli Berber tribe, was originally an ally of Carthage and fought against the Romans in Iberia. But after the Battle of Ilipa in 206 BC, he switched sides. His support at the Battle of Zama, leading the cavalry, was critical to the Roman victory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Punic_War
In any case, scourge or not, the Roman Warm Period would have been an aid to having elephants crossing the Alps, not to mention a large army.
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
O’marriage of the AGWarmists and Big Oil; “American Petroleum Institute”, et al.
“Earlier Tuesday, Kerry, Graham and Lieberman met with a group of business leaders, including the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, American Petroleum Institute, Nuclear Energy Institute and National Association of Manufacturers.”
…-
“Obama pushes senators for climate bill”
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h5iS14YOIUrpdmPuNylwKcVpSnmAD9EBELMG3
Ist Punic War…..Hannibal’s main problem crossing the Alps was the celtic residents of the time……weather was not a problem.
His brother Hamilcar came the same route from Spain, to reinforce Hannibal, and had no opposition crossing and in fact managed to recruit the troublsome Alpinists as auxiliaries.
Scipio was a second Punic War participant.
Basically he bought his victory…..by hiring all Hannibal’s mercenary auxiliaries…..not just the Berber cavalry, but Nubians, Baleric archers and slingers…….critically and essentially altering the odds….
When Rome finally conquered what is now Switzerland, they swiftly spanned the Alps with roads…vastly improving communication to the Upper and lower Rhine from Rome.
Those roads are apparent and now disappear under the current Alpine glaciers.
The NATURE editorial cites:
“…….The real goal is to stoke the angry fires of talk radio, cable news, the blogosphere and the like, all of which feed off of contrarian story lines and seldom make the time to assess facts and weigh evidence. Civility, honesty, fact and perspective are irrelevant.”
When the reality is it is the fundemental “science” which has been exposed as fraud and the “scientists” have been exposed as uncivil dishonest bureaucrats with a political agenda divourced from any environmental interest. Bureuacrats falsifying data and suppressing anythingand anybody contrary to the alarmist hoax.
Geez sasquatch, I hate to do this but……
I get a little freaky about spelling and such.
You are referring to Jim NABOURS, AKA Gomer Pyle.
That would be yer Gomer that works at Wally’s fillin’ station. Goober took his job when Gomer joined the military.
I am also an Andy Griffith show freak. My analyst and I are working on that.
Assessing facts and weighing evidence is about all this skeptic has ever done … and Nature can bite me for lying so transparently about it.
Don’t they think anyone can do climate science except the East Anglia people?
Those guys are the equivalent of beer league hockey players, and now everyone knows it, except for Nature apparently.
They should stick to biology, astronomy and other real sciences.
How refreshing to see an informed discussion of the Punic Wars.
As I often remark, everybody knows about Hannibal’s elephants. But who remembers the Hamilcar tiger cats?
Notice that even in the warm Roman times, they would not venture into Scotland in their togas.