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March 7, 2008

We Are The Ones

Lower the volume on the top video, and then play simultaneously.

Posted by Kate at March 7, 2008 6:28 PM
Comments

Amazing work. At first it was just interesting, then the chanting started and it got scary.

Posted by: dean spencer - fox at March 7, 2008 6:33 PM

This is frightening stuff. Americans should be careful that they don't get all of the Government they pay for.
The stuff of Dr Goebbels

Posted by: melwilde at March 7, 2008 6:34 PM

Good sideshow Kate!!

And yes to quote Lenin we will use the term " Useful Fools "

Posted by: simon at March 7, 2008 6:35 PM

_All_ chanting is scary

Posted by: Imethisguy at March 7, 2008 6:43 PM

What's that sound....could it be....yep, Kinsella's head just exploded again!

Kate, you little stinker!

Posted by: Eskimo at March 7, 2008 6:46 PM

Well Done!!!

The far left fascists verses the far right fascists. Can you tell the difference?

What does it matter, either one wants our subjugation and obedience!

Posted by: Knight 99 at March 7, 2008 6:53 PM

Left and right fascism?

Fascism is a very leftist phenomenon.

Right wing fascism is a term invented by leftists to distract the masses from their culpability in giving birth to that scourge...

Posted by: Kursk at March 7, 2008 7:04 PM

LOL!

Posted by: Lance at March 7, 2008 7:07 PM

I think I really don't like chanting no matter who the candidate is/was. It just seems so undignified (not on the part of the candidate, but the supporters).

Here's one to grow on - when they had the Republican convention here in NY in '04, whole chunks of midtown were paralyzed by the security, protesters etc. The protesters were all of the lefty variety, yet all my liberal friends and colleagues blamed the Republicans for bringing this disruption to NYC, yet without the protesting rabble, it would have been just another convention and some extra limos - and NYC can handle that without a breaking a sweat.

This year we are likely to see the same protesters at BOTH conventions. The lefties will protest the Republican convention because Republicans are evil and mean and like to drink the blood of infants (umm yummy). They will protest the Dem convention because the Dems are, in the view of those that animate the rabble, insufficiently leftist and neither candidate is promising to outright surrender to the Jihadis on Day One of their presidency.

This in a nutshell, is why I am a conservative - I don't agree with the Dems, I am certainly to the right of John McCain on many issues, but I could not imagine rioting in front of one or another of the conventions to get my point across - now maybe that's because I actually have a job and a life, and am not a smelly hippie, but I like to think it is because I also have some faith in the political process, and I am mature enough to know that just because it doesn't deliver the result that I want, it does not mean that the process is broken.

Posted by: holdfast at March 7, 2008 7:18 PM

I see there was some of the Obama Youth there!

Posted by: Al W at March 7, 2008 7:27 PM

As I have said on these pages several times before, it is not hard to see how the Hitlers of the world come to power. Hitlers/JimJones/Obamas, all built on the same people, weak people, they have to follow, they can't lead or think for themselves. The first two did themselves in, what about the third? Who cares?

Posted by: Western Canadian at March 7, 2008 7:31 PM

"Right, I'm a bigot, I know. But for the Left."

-- Woody Allen, "Annie Hall" (1977)

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at March 7, 2008 7:40 PM

Wow. I reached a similar conclusion late last night watching a rebuttal video, but I was too lazy to look for actual footage.

Does Godwin's Law apply here?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 7, 2008 7:41 PM

Al, I think there was, Green Shirts.

Posted by: Western Canadian at March 7, 2008 7:44 PM

Hey, Leni Reifestahl was the architect of all modern political theater. Obama's modeling his campaign on one of the most brilliant propaganda films ever made. Hell, maybe THE most brilliant.

I'm not sure I like what that says about modern politics. Or Obama.

Posted by: The Phantom at March 7, 2008 7:47 PM

Who cares what a bunch of degenerate, narcissistic fools think anyhow?
Unfortunately, Oprahma knows the powere of music, image and yes, mindless chanting!

Truly scary!

epw

Posted by: evilprinceweasel at March 7, 2008 7:59 PM

I love smalldeadanimals because I can be rest assured that Kate will go no more than three days without making another absurd comparison of a current event to that of Nazi Germany. It's heavily insulting to all that suffered at the helm of Hitler. If only I could invest with such certainty. I would be rich!

Posted by: Steve at March 7, 2008 8:00 PM

Populism is populism, and the propoganda used to build is similar. As The Phantom said, I think it says more about how long a shadow Leni Reifestahl casts.

I think it is a stretch to the point of breaking to make a serious comparison between the individuals. However it is a humorous juxtaposition.

The one to be afraid of is Hillary. But if Billary plays it as expected she will bring the temple down around her and make McCain president.

Its a long time to election day and much can happen.

Posted by: Stephen at March 7, 2008 8:01 PM

You’re gonna give spinyella an aneurysm.

Posted by: Bernie at March 7, 2008 8:03 PM

Cult of Personality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ5SVDYBNrY

Sorry, Vitruvius, for invading on your territory.

Posted by: Jan at March 7, 2008 8:03 PM

Thank you, Jan.

Posted by: Kate at March 7, 2008 8:09 PM

Steve - think for a moment...I do realize that this may be painful, but please try, 'cause it's important.

"We are the ones(we have been waiting for)" is either a blatantly manipulative piece of emotionally coercive propaganda exploited by an egotistically hypocritical man for the glorification of himself in the acquisition of political power, or...

...he really does think this way.

Absurd comparison? Clearly, you have not considered the historical parallels.

Posted by: Tenebris at March 7, 2008 8:19 PM

Obama is probably about as dangerous to America as Hitler was to Germany, but I don't think he's as dangerous to our allies as Hitler was to Germany's allies.

Certainly, it is an effective demonstration of the dangers of blindly following a leader, without individually studying what he is and actually stands for and the merits of such issues, as many Obamah supporters freely admit.

Posted by: Q at March 7, 2008 8:21 PM

As scary as Obama seems, I've been spending a great deal of time in Chicago lately with my relatives who are, surprise, dyed in the wool Chicago Democrats.

Guess what folks, even they are scared of Obama. Don't forget, Black America is only about 12-13% of total population, despite media portrayal.

Posted by: Doug at March 7, 2008 8:25 PM

More video for your viewing pleasure:

Obama Man (apologies to Candy Man)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgt6YQiZTkc

Posted by: Doug at March 7, 2008 8:31 PM

"We are the ones that we have been waiting for."

"The once and future king."

(The one, of course, who pulls the sword from the stone demonstrates his unsurpassable virtue to become the king of all the Britons.)

"Hark, the herald angels sing,
Glory to the newborn king!"

He's a politician! He's a savior! He's cosmic!

He's a brother!

He's being fairly effective at identifying himself with a universal. As in The Hobbitt when they say things like "His cloak was of purple," or "His tunis was of crimson."

See, it's like the dude isn't just wearing crimson. His nature is in identification with the universal crimson.

(I'm derivative of the House of Orange.)

So he's trying to cause there to be an association between a deep universal factor in the human mind, particularly the Western mind, so that the dumber among us see these universal, god-like qualities in him.

Actually, he's just a fairly dumb brother working an angle bigger than he is... incidentally, I think Justin Trudeau should run as his vice president.

Posted by: Greg in Dallas at March 7, 2008 8:45 PM

I thought I saw Hollywood and some dreamer entertainers expressing their wishes for a war free world.

It*s a free country. Too many are too young to understand the price of earning and holding onto the freedom that allows them to chant their songs for Obama.

Politically correct allowance for some Sharia law could be a good lesson but regaining lost freedoms afterward could be messy. = TG

Posted by: TG at March 7, 2008 9:04 PM

hmmmmmm drop the audio from one... drop the video from the other... merge the remaining audio and video and then all of a sudden...

Oh, have you guys heard the "Barack The Magic Negro" song yet? Oh wait... Am I allowed to quote a title of a song if it has that word in it? Anyway...

here's the link: http://www.no-libs.com/audio/barackthemagicnegro.mp3

Posted by: Richard Evans at March 7, 2008 9:06 PM

The clips above brought back memories of this little Broadway ditty....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMVql9RLP34

Posted by: MarkJ at March 7, 2008 9:19 PM

Ho. Hum. More boring reactions from the SDA reactionaries.

Posted by: volik at March 7, 2008 9:42 PM

Damn. I miss Living Color.

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at March 7, 2008 9:44 PM

"Too many are too young to understand the price of earning and holding onto the freedom that allows them to chant their songs for Obama." TG at 9:04 pm.

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it on to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children what it was once like in the United States when men were free."
Address to the annual meeting of the Phoenix Chamber of Commerce, (1961-03-30).

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Image:Ronald_Reagan_and_Nancy_Reagan_aboard_a_boat_in_California_1964.jpg

Posted by: felis corpulentis at March 7, 2008 9:54 PM

Oh yes, and I forgot -

- "he's a brother", "Barack the Magic Negro", "In Living Color"...ad infinitum -

More boring racism from the boring SDA reactionaries.

Posted by: volik at March 7, 2008 10:09 PM

OK, the Obamaman video somehow lead me to this video - which made me laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU5ytNS_Tsc&feature=user

/I am SO sorry...

Posted by: Jim Pook at March 7, 2008 10:11 PM

But these beautiful people are Hollywood. If I can’t believe their informed opinion, then who's vacuous opinion can a base my decision on?

Posted by: Tom at March 7, 2008 10:21 PM

You're weird volik.

Posted by: Jan at March 7, 2008 10:28 PM

Ask not for whom the chad dangles.

Posted by: shaken at March 7, 2008 10:33 PM

hey, volik, or should I call you diklik, Barack "The Magic Negro" was coined by......wait for it.....a BLACK MAN.....ooooooooooooooooo!

Posted by: Doug at March 7, 2008 10:52 PM

Think I saw George W at about 35 seconds (top video).

Is he friends with Rudy?

Posted by: Stew at March 7, 2008 11:02 PM

This is all in keeping with Hitler's own conception of mass psychology as given in MEIN KAMPF where he says:

"The psyche of the broad masses does not respond to anything weak or half-way. Like a woman, whose spiritual sensitiveness is determined less by abstract reason than by an indefinable emotional longing for fulfilling power and who, for that reason, prefers to submit to the strong rather than the weakling - the mass, too, prefers the ruler to a pleader."
...

Yeates-Brown (592) :

"He was a man transformed and possessed. We were in the presence of a miracle."

http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/documents/osssection2.htm

Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at March 7, 2008 11:20 PM

I call Godwin. Sure, Obama supporters are doing the whole cult-of-personality thing, but then so were the Ron Paul supporters.

Yes, Obama (or any Democrat at this point) would be a disaster for America. However, America tends to be self-correcting in many ways. Perhaps we should hope for Obama to win, because after his presidency the Republicans would be in power for a very, very long time.

Posted by: Ed Minchau at March 7, 2008 11:21 PM

Careful, Kate,
you're coming close to 'jumping the shark' on this one.

Yes, the Obama videos are creepy, the messianic-cult-worship is scary, the content is as shallow as it can get. Just let it run it's course without pointing out the obvious. You should know by now that comparisons to Hitler will get you nothing but grief. Better to compare Obama-mania to Trudeau-mania.

Don't forget the culture we live in is fickle and one of chronic ADHD. By November Obama will definitely be exposed for what he is - all sizzle and no steak.


Posted by: Norman at March 7, 2008 11:36 PM

Ed Minchau,
you've got some good points, but you have to remember that Ron Paul is a 10-term US Congressman from Texas. He once ran for president on the Libertarian ticket.

He is enormously well known in Libertarian circles and where Libertarian and Republican circles meet. His economic policies and political philosophy have been outlined for many decades.

So all he had to do was run on his message. (Incidentally, although he dropped out of the race, he handily won the primary for his Congressional seat again and will still be a Congressman.)

Obama has virtually risen out of nothing. He won an election for senator in Illinois by a fluke. The Republican Party had a scandal, their candidate was tainted, and the party dragged in Alan Keyes, a black motivational speaker from another state, to run against Obama.

Obama is an integral part of the Democratic machine in Illinois and basically won the election on this confluence of irregular events.

And the thing is that Obama's team is doing everything in their power to manipulate mass psychology from the top. Ron Paul in a sense was simply running on his record and political philosphy. Obama is running on however successful they can be at manipulating Democratic voters.

This is why a lot of Texans intentionally jumped into the Democratic primary to vote for Hillary. The thinking is that half the American people already dislike her. And because Republicans are reluctant to speak frankly about a black candidate as they would be charged with racism, we now will have the continuation of Bill and Hillary attacking Obama, which hopefully will lead to both of them being disparaged by the time of the general election.

Posted by: Greg in Dallas at March 7, 2008 11:50 PM

his says it all for me...


http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2907

Posted by: lwestin at March 8, 2008 12:06 AM

I've decided that I really can support Barack Obama. He's the candidate I've been looking for since he's going to end fear. All we have to do is elect Obama and we never need to be afraid again.

Posted by: CanuckInMI at March 8, 2008 12:06 AM

Maybe I'm incredibly thick ... but ... how hard is it to tell a drufus exactly what he/she wants to hear? In my generation we called them marks.

Posted by: ural at March 8, 2008 12:12 AM

damn it kathy I don't miss living colour...lousy crap imho

Posted by: kelly at March 8, 2008 12:40 AM

Everyone knows that modern American presidents are simply the play toys of their puppet masters – bankers the conspirators of the New World Order! I don’t think that Obama being a Negro really matters. What do you think volik?

Posted by: Knight 99 at March 8, 2008 12:53 AM

he said she said on top sort of thing

Posted by: brian at March 8, 2008 1:10 AM

he said she said on top sort of thing

Posted by: brian at March 8, 2008 1:10 AM

Those people back then were....and today are....delusional.

I am EXTREMELY happy he will end fear and war. I just hope our enemies are thinking the same thing.

Posted by: ownshook at March 8, 2008 1:31 AM

It's a cool video, but lets not get into a conservative existential crisis over it.

Posted by: david maclean at March 8, 2008 2:02 AM

Greg in Dallas, I like Ron Paul, I like that he has a coherent political philosophy and that he adheres to it. If I was an American I'd happily vote for the guy.

His supporters in the presidential nomination process are another matter altogether. They were engaging in some sort of "John Galt will save us!"-style messianic fervor, just as Obama's supporters are doing.

It is the *ideas* that are important, and the individual politician is only important to the extent that he implements those ideas which are useful and abandons those that are not. From what I have seen of Obama, there are only empty slogans and no ideas. For Hilary! there are only ideas which are not useful (except to the bigwigs in the Democrat party). And I really haven't seen a lot in the way of ideas from McCain either.

Too bad NoneOfTheAbove can't be elected president.

Posted by: Ed Minchau at March 8, 2008 3:03 AM

There should be a 'law',

about inappropriately using "Godwin's Law".

Let's call it "Biff's Law",

and it shall henceforth refer to the point at which Godwin's law is used to shut down legitimate debate involving a bona fide comparison to the Nazis.

Both Godwin's Law, and Biff's law are designed to enforce the boundaries of legitimate debate, just from opposite ends of the "acceptability" threshold.

Posted by: biff at March 8, 2008 4:53 AM

Very good comparison between the two propaganda films.

Another "progressive" politician using Goebbels's principles to brainwash the population into going their way.

I linked to this.

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at March 8, 2008 7:00 AM

Ahh yes newage secular proselytizing from a 20 second attention span generation conditioned by MTV...all the answers to the human condition were there all along...all we needed was self absorbed TV culture halcyon moppets to enunciate it.

I'm so happy for the world.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at March 8, 2008 7:59 AM

WLM, the conditioning started a generation before MTV. I believe that BHM is going to buy the world a Coke. Of course, he can't come right out and say so, lest he alienate the Pepsi generation. Perfect harmony...

Posted by: shaken at March 8, 2008 8:51 AM

What's really scary is that the talking heads on the O-BAA-MA video don't realize how dumb they look: like a bunch of bleating sheep: O-BAAAAA-MA, O-BAAAAA-MA.

If I were O-BAA-MA, I'd deep-six the thing in a hurry. This video alone would be enough to remind me not to vote for him in the next election, and I don't think I'd be alone in this dtermination.

Posted by: batb at March 8, 2008 8:54 AM

Dear Volik,

"More boring racism from the boring SDA reactionaries."

More knee-jerk flinging of tired latte leftist cliches supposed to end all discussion.

Volik's definition of "racist": Anyone who's actually bothered to review He-Who's-Middle-Name-Must-Not-Be-Used's record (or lack of one) and thinks he'd make a rotten president.

Volik's definition of "reactionary": Anyone to the right of Mao Tse-Tung.

Posted by: MarkJ at March 8, 2008 9:09 AM

...HA, Kate, you sly dog.

This from a cat lover.

Posted by: tomax7 at March 8, 2008 9:10 AM

I think it's a great video -- very uplifting and positive.

Unfortunately, it says absolutely NOTHING about how he is going to bring about change, make it a better world, end war...I guess those are just silly, messy facts that only us rightwingers are preoccupied with.

Leftards think world peace can be brought about with nothing more than a catchy tune. Just like when Band Aid thought a lame pop hit would end African famine in 1984...still waiting on that one.

For all the talk about "it's not because he's black", 90% of the "change" junkies in this video are black. HE REPRESENTS EVERYONE! ...and remedial education has a sudden boon...

Posted by: Wonder Woman at March 8, 2008 9:12 AM

"In a sermon delivered at Howard University, Barack Obama’s longtime minister, friend, and adviser blamed America for starting the AIDS virus, training professional killers, importing drugs, and creating a racist society that would never elect a black man as president."
http://newsmax.com/kessler/obama_minister_wright/2008/03/06/78440.html

Posted by: alan at March 8, 2008 9:22 AM

I DON'T want to learn how to goose step.

Posted by: Woodporter at March 8, 2008 9:25 AM

NOT goose-stepping, but you WILL learn Hip-Hop if the Obamanator becomes POTUS. In fact, the history of Hip Hop will supplant the history of Ballet.

Posted by: Doug at March 8, 2008 9:38 AM

I guess Hu-say-yeahn-Hu-say-yeahn wouldn't cut it because it has too much of an Islamic feel to it. Oh-bam-ah-Oh-bam-ah has the right African emphasis on beat two. Although, Oh-sam-ah-Oh-sam-ah could work as a worthy compromise, or at least as an Arabic translation.

Posted by: irwin daisy at March 8, 2008 9:59 AM

Actually, I'm gonna side with Kate on this one. I've been, let us say, a bit skeptical of her work in the past, what with the holocaust fakery and whatnot. But I think it's clear now that, judging from this post, that Kate is truly fighting the forces of evil and tyranny in the world, and this post demonstrates her necessary role in the battle for democracy. Indeed, I think we all need to hang our heads in shame for a few minutes, and contemplate our sorry state.

At any rate, while I know I haven't yet done MY part for freedom, I think we can all rest easy knowing that, on a Friday evening, while some of us are out enjoying the fruits of our forefather's sacrifices, she's busy contrasting sound and video files to find similarities with Hitler.

There's gotta be an Order of Canada or a Nobel Prize for this brave, noble, and - dare I say it - valiantly patriotic work.

Kate, God bless you.

Posted by: JohnnyRingo at March 8, 2008 10:20 AM

"I think it's a great video -- very uplifting and positive."

which one, the top one or the bottom one?

;-b

Posted by: tomax7 at March 8, 2008 10:21 AM

Judging by his post, Johnny Pinko likes the top one.

Posted by: irwin daisy at March 8, 2008 10:28 AM

Does the number of Caucasians in this video reflect the true ethnic makeup of America? If not, why not?

Posted by: violet at March 8, 2008 10:38 AM

JohnnyPinko, I like that one Irwin. That's got some sting to it.

Upon reflection (and driving around in 6" of fresh global warming) I suppose its possible I didn't make my earlier comment clear enough for the Pinko synapse set.

I (and Kate, obviously) are not suggesting Mr. Obama is a Nazi, based on one video. Because, you know, that would be silly.

No, what I (and Kate, obviously) are remarking on is that Leni Reifenstahl could have made that video. It uses all her techniques and then some. This guy's whole campaign is a Reifenstahlesque propaganda exercise.

The reason for doing that is they have nothing to talk about. Either you don't actually have any convictions or plans, or you do but you know people won't vote for them.

IMHO, Obama fits in the first category. He's an empty suit riding a wave of PC populism, mostly because he like being on TV and when you're the President you get to be on TV lots and lots. That's a job for Leni.

Hillary Clinton is clearly in category two. Nobody would vote for nationalizing the entire US medical system, and that's just one of the things she's got planned. Another job for Leni.

Leni is real busy these days, eh? Lots of people taking Kim Campbell's advice, elections are no place to discuss the issues.

Hence my discontent. Pinko.

Posted by: The Phantom at March 8, 2008 11:17 AM

Johnny Pinko and Vomit are here,who rang the, I'm a left wing loser without a life so I'll visit and heckle on a right wing site,idiot bell.

Posted by: h.ryan. at March 8, 2008 12:16 PM

Thank you Phantom, for commenting on what the single-helixed trolls volik and johnnyPinko couldn't somehow discern: it's not the implication that O-BAA-MA is a Nazi, but in the similarities in filmography between the two clips.

Ahh, well. There's never an excuse too good for a leftist or a liberal to shut down debate, eh?

Although Ed Minchau has a point above (to wit, there had to be a Carter in the White House before Reagan came along), it's too troubling to think of the damage obama could cause in the interim.

It's a toss-up between obama and hillary clinton as to who is most inexperienced to be POTUS; but I'm more concerned with obama's "cult of personality" and what it's precipitating: already the RNC is advising members to ix-nay on the ussein-hay iddle name-may, and there's no telling what else will be out of bounds with the fear of liberal "racism" backlash against any criticism of obama. The repubs better get it together; you can slam obama's policies/voting record/lack of substance to the ground quite easily while avoiding any "racist" labelling: he's a hard-left socialist and disturbingly naive on how to deal with national security and international issues.

Limbaugh has a great point: should this novice win the white house, then liberal pc-ism will prevent any criticism of his governance as detractors will be afraid of the "racist" label.

Myself, I am much more concerned with this election than whatever happens in Canada. Even if the liberals came to power again (shudder-r-r), this would at worst only destroy canada. Obama's election could have negative impact on the world.

mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm

Posted by: mhb at March 8, 2008 12:41 PM

I guess Obama is just a very religious person and would like everybody else to be.......on his terms.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xtNr5-up0U&eurl=http://www.proudtobecanadian.ca/blog/

Posted by: Glen at March 8, 2008 1:00 PM

pppp

Posted by: volik at March 8, 2008 1:17 PM

Seig Heil...Obama!

Posted by: Dave in PA at March 8, 2008 1:23 PM

Right on! I believe! I see the light!

Obama will save the world! (In his father's Swiss bank account)

An indoctrination video of Obama chants? This is scary.

I overheard one person at breakfast last Saturday talking about how eloquent Obama was. I didn't start a bun fight by suggesting that, if he was so eloquent, how come he says nothing.

Posted by: RW at March 8, 2008 1:41 PM

It seems that some dont see the similarities in the road to power of the two men.Trudeaumania was the same and Canada is still suffering from its effects.

Posted by: spike 1 at March 8, 2008 1:46 PM

I prefered the German soundtrack, less scary.

Posted by: RW at March 8, 2008 1:47 PM

Instead of running the Reifestahl video side by side with the Smiley-Face "Yes we can" Obama video, try running it side by side with the Trinity United Church's Jeremiah A.Wright address at the Andrew Rankin Memorial Chapel in 2006 (Wright was Obama's pastor in Chicago). This is the event referred to in the url provided in alan's post at 9:22 above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfNEfEBYIZs

The audio is a little muffled at the start.

Posted by: Richard Saunders at March 8, 2008 2:02 PM

Video pulled from youtube.
Liberals. All for banning censorship except when it suits them.

Posted by: Jay at March 8, 2008 2:15 PM

Anyone else reminded of "Palestinian" propaganda films in both videos?

And of the Islamic fascists in the images of Nazi soldiers doing the Nazi salute?

Now... Here's the thing.

The Muslims were part of the Nazi Forces. They fought shoulder to shoulder with the "Aryan" Nazis.

So there's no coincidence that today's Islamic fascists share so much in common with the Nazis of yore and with today's neoNazis.

Ok, then.... I've blogged that many radical Muslims praise Obama. They are actually linked from Obama's own site. And that Obama has worked with a terrorist for the purpose of fundraising.

First we get Keith Ellison in Congress, swearing in on a Koran, not a Bible. You know, this guy is linked very strongly and unapologetically to the likes of CAIR, and I just found out that CAIR has praised and declared support for Hamas a few days ago.

Now we have Obama.

I definitely have a problem with Obama's ties to the Islamic fascists.

Imagine if a Republican contender had such staggering ties to neoNazis, Skins, KKK, etc... can you imagine that Republican getting a free ride to the Presidency?

Didn't some guy named David Duke try to become President or something like that? Well, everything negative about him was rightly exposed by the MSM, terminating his political career, fortunately.

Well, this is the optics of Obama...

Surely such optics are supposed to be the end of one's political career in the Free World?

We can only hope and pray.

Change? What kind of change?

We don't know. He won't say.

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at March 8, 2008 2:34 PM

I have to admit that, for the young at least, that this is a great slogan "We are the ones we have been waiting for. We can change the world.".

The slogan is a call for bottom-up action - we can change the world.

However, instead of people energized to actually change things we see the same old liberal passivity and pessimism at work - things are awful, please, please someone do something to fix it. Here are a few of the hip comments from the video:

- I would like to see us in a world without fear
- I just want the war to end
- I would like to see a cleaner earth for my child.
- I want Someone to actually make a difference in my life
- I want a better future for my children

It seems that Vladimir and Estragon are still hopelessly and idly "spending" time, waiting for the Obamessiah to come and save them.

Posted by: Richard Saunders at March 8, 2008 2:54 PM

I TOLD you people months ago:

"Brown people, women, and homosexuals gang up on white males in elections to steat their money and homes and cars and children"

And you laughed.

Now we have hard video evidence that that is the precise M.O. of the Obama campaign.

I, and I alone, called it, months before anyone noticed that Obama was building an anti-white male coalition.

Posted by: fsafaf at March 8, 2008 3:26 PM

"Fsafaf", you wouldn't happen to be an infiltrator from the CHRC, would you?

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at March 8, 2008 5:01 PM

Canadian Sentinel>

“Infiltrator” would presume that there is something untoward and secretive about this blog, which obviously is not the case.

Possibly “troll” or “provocateur” would substitute - even from the CHRC as you have suggested (obviously has been proven in the past) baiting or goading otherwise reasonable conservative bloggers into falsely labeled hate mongers. At the very least paint them as such to sell a Liberal audience the message that they are not the only delusional hypocrites on the planet.

Posted by: Knight 99 at March 8, 2008 5:34 PM

""Fsafaf", you wouldn't happen to be an infiltrator from the CHRC, would you?"

That's one of the higher quality insults I've received, nice job :-)

Dude, the video contains actual evidence, OK? Actual evidence that Obama wants to build a Liberal Party of Canada-style coalition of the White Man Haters. Is it really that big of a deal to just say so? Isn't free speech somewhat fashionable these days?

Posted by: fsasf at March 8, 2008 6:48 PM

There is an awful lot of pessimism in the World today but its flipside, blind faith, is very scary indeed.

Posted by: Earl the Pearl at March 8, 2008 7:34 PM

fsasf.
I have considered carefully etc. The persons involved in the campaign for the presidency. Indeed the wife of Barack Obama included.

There is no question in my mind of a certain animosity toward definable groups that make up American society. (Granted my statement is a bit sanctimonious). Those who have an acute sense of what people are really about, often have a tough row to hoe. For the majority could be almost literally cold shouldered by their hero/s. It does not fizz on them at this time.

I find that the working class very often bear the brunt of someone's angst against society. While they- this class, do not have much to do with the running of the system, they are the easiest target.

Any working class person and lower middle-class white person may well be the first to get the wrong end of the wedge.

This woman, Michelle Obama is a disturbed person. I pity the group of persons who get in the way of her repaying the " have nots".

Working class may live to rue the day and hear this statement..... "Now it's our turn".

Posted by: Peter(Lock City) at March 8, 2008 7:45 PM

Knight99, your're right.

Fsasf, well, wrt Obama, while one will reasonably have the concern that Obama might well be racist, I wouldn't simplify it to just Caucasophobia on the part of Obama and the Obamites. There's much more to him than meets the eye, which I mentioned in an earlier comment on this thread.

You know, Hillary has more obvious baggage, and the MSM may be much more willing to make a stink about it than about Obama's baggage. So, if we want to see our preferred guy McCain the Republican be the President, it makes sense to, right now, scrutinize and expose findings about things about Obama that reasonable people will find very worrisome. Doing so will help Democrats make a more informed decision and hopefully pick Hillary, whom many believe would be more easily beaten as it's not as politically incorrect to go after a Clinton, even the female one, as it is to go after Obama, simply cos going after darker-skinned folks tends to bring retaliatory accusations of "racist" and "bigot" even though one is merely pointing out facts that matter to Americans and nothing else. Surely, it's germane to point to a presidential nomination candidate's past utterances, for example, about promising to "side with Islam if politcs gets ugly" and about "feeling good hating his mother's race" and so on... this stuff is found in the books he himself wrote.

Besides, he never explained what exactly he means by "change". To simply talk about change is unacceptable and invariably leads to suggestions of a hidden, sinister agenda and so on.

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at March 8, 2008 9:44 PM

Johnny Ringo says "At any rate, while I know I haven't yet done MY part for freedom."
Well JR, little puss, why don't ya go down to the Canadian Army recruiting site closest to you and enlist. Then you can get an education in Afghanistan and write back to us what you've learned. I doubt it would be the trash you write now. You might actually learn something

Posted by: Rick at March 8, 2008 10:00 PM

Canadian Sentinel>

I personally don’t think it’s a matter of Obama being racist or not (I personally take it for assured that he is) it is really a matter of the hordes of believers within the USA and the greater world, and what they accept and expect him to be.
The bulk of the black population within the US and the greater hordes of fanatical Muslims throughout the world (particularly in high density poverty stricken areas) see Obama as a second coming of a Messiah coupled with a profound change in the USA (the evil empire) that will finally allow them the riches and respect they deserve. Really and truly! Whether Obama actually fly’s with this crowd or not will not change the momentum and the righteousness that these billion feel that they are entitled. Whether or not it’s handed to them on a silver plate is a matter of the aftermath, imagine the impact when all of these groups accustomed to special entitlement feel jilted by the obsessive lose of the millennia? It’s a lose lose proposition for the west and western values regardless of the outcome of Obamas presidency. We have always been the worlds Satan and the inner American white oppressors of the blacks (in their minds). How could this be a positive outcome for the status quo???

Posted by: Knight 99 at March 8, 2008 10:38 PM

Apologies for the bad spelling and grammer on the last post, I was rushed at the time. ment to say #1 "obsessive loss" - #2 the confusing "lose lose" was supposed to be one word losing (one time). Sorry me bad.

Posted by: Knight 99 at March 9, 2008 12:42 AM

So this is what Canadian conservatism is producing nowadays. This post is stunning in its ignorance. You can call me whatever names you want but this post and the ensuing comments are disgusting. "Seig Heil...Obama!" Unbelievable.

Posted by: Robert S. Porter at March 9, 2008 3:51 AM

So this is what Canadian conservatism is producing nowadays. This post is stunning in its ignorance. You can call me whatever names you want but this post and the ensuing comments are disgusting. "Seig Heil...Obama!" Unbelievable. -Robert S. Porter

Idiot. The Nazis and the Obamites produced the videos, not Canadian conservatives, nor would we ever. Ignorance? Another cliche "progressive" attack without foundation, meaning, actually, that we dare to use our brains rather than let progressiNazis tell us what to think.

Robert, your ilk, the self-labelled "progressives" are already guilty as sin of producing filth that defames conservatives as Nazis, racists, bigots and so on... WITHOUT PROOF.

The irrefutable, shocking proof about Obama is trickling out, and, as a progressive, you find these to be inconvenient truths, therefore you call us "ignorant" for daring to dig up the truth. Obama is on record in his books as promising to "side with Islam" and "feeling good hating his mother's race". It's in his books, in black and white, no pun intended.

Ignorant "progressives" like yourself annoy the hell out of me. You would seek to slander us rather than opening your minds to the truth that some folks may be very bad despite not having pale faces and so on.

I mean, Osama bin Laden and Robert Mugabe are dark-skinned, and they're monstrously evil, hateful, racist butchers in their beliefs and in the way they treat human beings. I suppose you would call me a "racist" or "ignorant" for saying this? Or maybe you're unaware that these guys are horrendous monsters?

Hey, isn't refusing to believe that it's possible that non-white folks can be racists and bigots and have possibly dangerous hidden agendae... racism? If you wish to believe that Obama is necessarily good based on his skin color and his "progressivism" and political correctness, then that's ignorance and much worse... then what does that make you, if not a racist?

...so we have no lessons to take from ignorant "progressives". Take a hint, pal... don't be ignorant. Think for yourself and seek the plain inconvenient truth that maybe Obama isn't all that good, regardless of skin color.

Progressives, eh? I roll my eyes at their stupidity, ignorance and racism.

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at March 9, 2008 9:01 AM

dipdive in the top left corner says it all.

Posted by: old white guy at March 9, 2008 9:52 AM

Well, we don't call him the Obamessiah for nothing. Although Oprahbama might be closer to the truth.

Posted by: Expat Texan at March 9, 2008 10:38 AM

I have the 26th rated North American blog read internationally, so I feel compelled to say my piece.
I gave this site to a friend in America to read, thinking she would get a kick out of the motorcycle comments.
Then I started reading it. Being from Saskatchewan as well, I am today disgusted at the content of this hate filled, misleading, pro-oil, anti-science, pro-stupidity website.

You squander your gift for writing with these posts, and Canadians should take a proactive stance against this. This is not representative of the Canadian public view, but rather appeals to the fringe folks that like to read misleading snippets of quasi news from other blogs.

Id try some antidepressants for your bi-polar writing. At the very least, try writing about flowers and leave the real issues to those with principles.

Posted by: silencer at March 9, 2008 4:42 PM

Canadian Sentinel, that is one hell of a rant coming from you. It's also very rich that you would call me a racist, without a modicum of evidence.

Your ignorant and hate-filled tirade shows what a sorry state conservatism is in. You repeatedly call me a "progressive" without me saying absolutely anything about my political leanings. But for your future reference and tirades I am a libertarian, not a progressive. Of course that probably will just confuse you since you think in simple us vs. them terms. Thus my ilk is not progressive. But good try, I'm not even a big Obama fan, I find his social and economic plans to be troublesome.

As for your "irrefutable, shocking proof about Obama", are you serious? You post two "quotes" about Obama without even an attempt at providing a source or, even better yet, context. I haven't read Obama's books, but I'd guess that what you are accusing him of is nowhere in them. I'll gladly be proved wrong, just give me the page numbers so that I can find this "shocking proof".

I'm completely confused as to why you would bring race into the equation. I said nothing about Obama's race or, in fact, anyone's race. Where would you get the idea that I would call you a racist for hating bin Laden and Mugabe? You are just making wild assumptions without any basis whatsoever. People can be evil or monstrous regardless of race.

And again, where did I say absolutely anything about Obama being "good based on his skin color and his 'progressivism' and political correctness". I said nothing on this topic. Your entire post makes wild assumptions and conjectures which bear no resemblance to what I said. The fact that you went off on this tangent shows you have some serious issues that you should address.

My entire point was that comparing Obama to Hitler is ignorant of history, extremely offensive and a pathetic reflection of Canadian conservatives.

Posted by: Robert S. Porter at March 9, 2008 4:48 PM

Your "entire point" that the intent of this post was to compare Obama to Hitler reveals that you're either intellectually lazy or intentionally obtuse.

Posted by: Kate at March 9, 2008 6:21 PM

Being from Saskatchewan as well, I am today disgusted at the content of this hate filled, misleading, pro-oil, anti-science, pro-stupidity website.

I'd comment on the unintentionally appropriate nature of your name, "Silencer", but I can't be certain that it is in fact unintentional.

Posted by: Templar at March 9, 2008 9:42 PM

Yes, Mr. Porter, you silly man

If you can't see that Kate's brilliant mash-up of two youtube videos (and let's all applaud Kate for her hard work and intellectual acuity in seeing the obvious similarities and posting them here with the direction: 'one with sound on, one with sound off!'), I mean if you can't see the point of it is that Obama's *followers* are like Hitler's *followers*, well, hell, man, you must be intellectually *lazy*, or intentionally obtuse!

"A pathetic reflection on Canadian conservatives"? Bah! Get with the program, Porter!

Posted by: volik at March 9, 2008 10:01 PM

Yes Volik, Mr. Porter seem to miss the point, it is about the narcissism of the "volk", the followers. Perhaps Mr. Potter can not get passed a juxtaposition of an German national socialist with a Black racialist socialist. Or perhaps the ironic pairing of a militarist with connections to anti-Semitic groups and an appeaser with connections to anti-Semitic groups is hard to fathom.

I think we have to commend Kate for this wonderful presentation.

We Are the Ones
Juxtaposed with
Ich Bin - (in German)
I am - (in English)

It even seems to work as sort of "call and response", antiphon and fugue ... a dialectic between followers and leader ...

BTW I'm not Canadian so Volik you should have to worry about taking the heat for my comments ;-)

Posted by: Mike O'Malley at March 9, 2008 11:55 PM

Yes, Mike O'Malley

Mr. Porter *did* miss the point, didn't he? He likely couldn't fathom the idea of an appeaser with connections to anti-Semites any more than one can fathom the likes of McCain with his connections to anti-Semites (John Hagee) or the Bushes' connections with anti-semites (Rev. Sun Myung Moon).

Silly Mr. Porter can't appreciate the new cutting edge of conservative thought as exemplified by Kate's use of Nazi footage and her recent mocking of the Holocaust. What a dolt!

Posted by: volik at March 10, 2008 12:12 AM

Kate, do you really think that I am being intellectually lazy? Do you really believe that putting an Obama video next to Hitler isn't saying "look, they're doing the same thing!" It doesn't matter if you think you are making a sly comment about Obama's advertising, you put his video next to a video of Adolf Hitler. The fact that you cannot fathom why people might find that offensive, ignorant and just plain stupid says it all.

Posted by: Robert S. Porter at March 10, 2008 12:23 AM

You know, Robert, the pathetic aspect of your ad hominem (because you haven't provided an argument that my comparison was a false one) is that a number of readers did make the connection, wrote about it, and I actually acknowledged that higher in the thread.

So, perhaps it's unfair to narrow in on your "intellect" when it appears that a more general laziness may be to blame here.


Posted by: Kate at March 10, 2008 12:47 AM

[deleted. Take your insults some place else. ED]

Posted by: volik at March 10, 2008 12:50 AM

Your comparison is false. Can pretend that there is a vast comparison between the videos? If you take some time to learn about the rise of Hitler and Third Reich you will know why the comparison just doesn't follow.

Sure there is a slight similarity in the chanting, but aside from that, what is there? Obama is not advocating the hatred of one ethnic group. He isn't advocating a strong military presence. He isn't advocating an ultra-nationalist program.

Is there an attachment to the personality of Obama? Sure. But that doesn't have any resemblance to Goebbels' propaganda. Would you say that Kennedy and Trudeau were following Nazi ideas? Surely not. Was the “Four More Years!” chant for Bush also reminiscent of the Nazis?

The comparison is unfair and offensive. When Obama’s campaign starts deliberately targeting issues like that and presenting Obama as the only answer, get back to me.

When his Sturmabteilung starts throwing people in concentration camps, tell me. A music video with a choir chanting does not a fascist make.

Posted by: Robert S. Porter at March 10, 2008 1:54 AM

Sturmabteilung?
concentration camps?

At this point the Dali Obama comes across to me as an elitist red-diaper baby who does well for himself in the dirtier end of notorious Chicago Democrat Party politics. However, I don't see him having the stuff it takes to make it as a Fuhrer. Could Barry Hussein Obama make it as a Nevil Chamberlain? Yes, it seems likely. But then I haven't read his ode to his absent father yet so my view of Obamamessiah is evolving.

That said Mr. Porter, you could do a little research. Some number of Barry Hussein Obama's long time supporters do advocate parallel institutions with older names such as jihad, Ummah, jizya and dhimmi.

Posted by: Mike O'Malley at March 10, 2008 7:18 AM

"... the Bushes' connections with anti-semites (Rev. Sun Myung Moon)"?

LOL Volik

Now that would seen to be weak tea compared to the Bushes' connections to the Saudis! However, I'd guess that healthy intellects would sense the cognitive dissonance of pegging George W. Bush as a Israeli Zionist Cabal and "neocon" enabler and a tool of the anti-Semitic Saudis too boot!

LOL

Posted by: Mike O'Malley at March 10, 2008 7:30 AM

One last kick at the Obama can.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=50b_1205151349

Posted by: Glen at March 10, 2008 12:13 PM

Oh I see what you did there! You said Barak Hussein Obama. See, he's a Muslim!!!

I have done my research. You're the one ranting and raving about Obama and his supposed appeasing of Islamic terrorism. You can disagree with his take on the war, but to argue that he's going to bow down to the Middle East is stupid and part of the unsubstantiated right-wing conspiracy.

Posted by: Robert S. Porter at March 10, 2008 12:24 PM

Americans do need to segregate and divide the US land mass in half - East to West with a huge Israeli border fence separating it.

The northern half of the “new” America should be occupied by the conservative right, cleansed of any freeloading hippies, sexual deviants or other leftist dependants now deported to the south. The southern half would be infested with the lefty liberal’s lead by their socialist caregiver and entitlement champion Obama Barak.

The left would then be free to do what they wish, and would have all the latitude and freedom they require to feel victimized and share their new desert of thoughts and ideas of hope & change with their third world counterparts.

Americans now living in the north would have the all security they desire along with freedoms of expression and “American” culture that they genuinely would respect and preserve.

Guaranteed this time around the fence would hold.

What would be interesting, is a poll conducted across the US today to gauge peoples reaction to this idea, how many right minded conservatives would agree to the idea, in proportion to the left? I think we all know the answer to that question.

Posted by: Knight 99 at March 10, 2008 2:11 PM
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