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December 14, 2007

Mulroney Testimony: CBC On The Hotseat

CPC Director of Political Operations Doug Finley has written an official letter of complaint to the CBC Ombudsman.

On the TV program Mike Duffy Live, Mike Duffy stated the following.

"Liberal researcher Jay Ephard approach him and say, no, Jean, it's not true. The CBC didn't write those questions that were asked by the Liberals. We wrote them. Yes, the CBC phoned us up and suggested questions we should ask but we actually typed them out ourselves."


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Update - CBC has announced search for sacrificial lamb.

Posted by Kate at December 14, 2007 4:16 PM
Comments

LOL. Let the heads roll...

Posted by: Norseman at December 14, 2007 4:41 PM

"Yes, the CBC phoned us up and suggested questions we should ask but we actually typed them out ourselves."

Wow, these guys don't even need to be goaded into looking stupid.

Posted by: Zip at December 14, 2007 4:42 PM

Could they show us with their hands how thick the pages of questions were?

Posted by: Ironside at December 14, 2007 4:46 PM

The Liberal researcher said THEY TYPED the questions that CBC fed to them?

On the radio right now a Conservative MP said that Liberal Pablo had 3 pages of HANDWRITTEN questions. In English - a language this MP rarely speaks.

Posted by: Lorraine at December 14, 2007 4:52 PM

Heh. But watch the CBC slither out of this. Remember, this is Canada. Big names have been teflon-coated as soon as they step into the Ottawa-Montreal corridors of power.

So, what will the CBC do? Declare Jay Ephard 'expendable fodder' and release all kinds of smears against this individual? Same with LaPierre?

And what will the bosum buddies of the CBC, namely CTV and Canada Press, and the Toronto Star, Globe and Mail, do to help their friends at the CBC out of this?

Posted by: ET at December 14, 2007 4:53 PM

um ... so instead of the Liberals acting as the CBC's mouthpiece, they were taking dictation and THEN acting as the CBC's mouthpiece.

Boy, for a while there, I was worried that there might be something untoward going on. Glad we got that all cleared up then.

Posted by: whoevr at December 14, 2007 4:57 PM

Any guesses on how many decades this has been standard CBC "policy" ??

Posted by: ron in kelowna at December 14, 2007 4:57 PM

As true as this is, what MSM outlet is going to report this story and beat it into a dead horse?

Sadly, no one. Just like you said ET, the snakes slither out of this one because they control "truth" and the sheep passively eat it up.

Posted by: Doug at December 14, 2007 4:58 PM

The only way to get to the bottom of these serious allegations is to have CBC's management, producers and reporters testifying, alongside Liberals, in front of a televised public inquiry.

If there has been any collusion whatsoever between the CBC and the Liberals this could turn into one of the biggest political scandals in Canadian history.

In the meantime the Conservatives should hammer the Liberals non-stop in the HOC over these allegations. This is very serious stuff indeed.

Posted by: EBD at December 14, 2007 4:58 PM

Think about it: These MPs are so dimwitted that they need guidance from the CBC. The Liberals just get more and more contemptible and pathetic.

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at December 14, 2007 5:00 PM

'CBC Pravda', not a stretch at all.

CBC, the 'Friendly Dictators' little (big) helper ?

Posted by: ron in kelowna at December 14, 2007 5:03 PM

Coyne's been suggesting questions on his blog for the last week. Is that okay?

Posted by: justin at December 14, 2007 5:04 PM

Justin, Coyne is not on Commons Ethics Committee. So, spare us the equivalentism BS.

Posted by: Shamrock at December 14, 2007 5:12 PM

I am going to write to CBC today to ask that I be allowed to use their channels to submit some questions of my own at this inquiry.

For example, why is Paul so nice to Karl and so mean to Brian? Where does Pablo get his hair done? How come Ken has gotten so fat? Who in heck voted for Pat and why do they keep doing it? Why isn't Irene on the ethics committee so she can save us all a whole lot of time and money by coming to conclusions before asking any questions?

Posted by: Jan at December 14, 2007 5:12 PM

SO is this the first time ?? Are the Liberals declaring this taxpayer funded support as part of their funding ? Does Elections Canada know ? Did they declare the support in the year it was incurred?

How long have the CBC and the Liberals worked hand in hand to defeat a legally elected government ?

I DEMAND a Public Inquiry.

PabloScam, also known as CBC Gate demands answers.

Posted by: Fred at December 14, 2007 5:13 PM

It's never a STORY when it's the Liberals. If this were the Conservatives pulling a stunt like that howls would be deafening.
CBC will remain as they are, a bastion of Liberal Hacks.

Posted by: Liz J at December 14, 2007 5:14 PM

Does this even have to be dealt with in the HoC?
As a Crown Corporation the CEO must be accountable in some form to the government.Who has the portfolio?

Why wait for the media to deal with it?They are not our elected officials.

I'm betting PMSH is looking at the 'papers' as we speak.

Posted by: bluetech at December 14, 2007 5:20 PM

but it could be worse, well a little bit worse than CBC, it could be Hamas TV

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1625.htm

Posted by: Fred at December 14, 2007 5:21 PM

ron in kelowna:

The CBC are the cheerleaders for the "LIEberal choir."

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP

Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion

2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)

Knecht Rupprecht Division

Hans Corps

1st Saint Nicolaas Army

Army Group “True North”

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at December 14, 2007 5:22 PM

"PabloScam, also known as CBC Gate demands answers"

Thats funny.

Go CBC and take the Liberals with you.

PS-And don't come back!!!!!!!!

Posted by: capt_bob at December 14, 2007 5:24 PM

I always thought the CBC was the Liberal propoganda machine.

But lo and behold, it's not true.

The Liberals are the CBC's propoganda machine.

I stand corrected.

Posted by: irwin daisy at December 14, 2007 5:29 PM

This should be a huge scandal, but it won't be. Just as the army should not get involved in politics in a democracy, neither should a state broadcaster. Of course the easiest way to fix this would be to disband the CBC. This could be a perfect opportunity for the government to do that. The CBC outlived its usefulness forty years ago.

Posted by: minuteman at December 14, 2007 5:31 PM

I always thought the CBC was the propaganda arm of the LPC, now I'm not so sure. It appears the LPC is the political arm of the CBC.

BTW, did anybody else see that old fart catcher Craig Oliver on MDL the other day? Mike asked him what he thought of the LPC researcher confirming the story and Craig brushed it off by stating that Pablo is a smart fella and can write his own questions.

What??? When faced with confirmation of Liberal and CBC collusion Craig's journalistic instinct is to ignore the facts.

If he wasn't such a sycophant I'd assume senelity was taking hold.

And while I'm on a rant, that was some "At Issue" townhall on The National last night. AC coming across like BM must have pissed on his cornflakes at some point in the past, Pansbridge trying desperately to look casual and suave as he fields softballs from the "invited" audience of "common Canadians", the aforementioned common folk offering long winded and obviously scripted questions about how the CPC has abandoned the major urban centers...blah..blah..blah.

As usual the only one who made any sense was Chantal Hebert.

All this and LMOTP for a mere 1 billion a year.

And finally, Adler summed this whole issue up on his show yesterday. I'll paraphrase:

"The CBC is deathly afraid of the axe that will fall if Harper ever wins a majority and will stop at nothing to ensure that doesn't happen".

No shit Chuck.

Syncro

Posted by: syncrodox at December 14, 2007 5:40 PM

These are my two latest letters to the CBC Ombuds-toady: the levels to which this outfit will stoop knows no bounds. (I’m providing quotation marks only at the beginning and end of each letter.)

1) “Yesterday [December 12) on the 4:00 p.m. o’clock CBC radio news, which I heard in my car, the reopening of the Chalk River nuclear reactor was presented as having been supported by both the government and opposition parties, as well as by the Liberal Senate. 'Fair coverage', I thought.

By the 6:00 p.m. o’clock news, the coverage was altogether different. The fact that PARLIAMENT—which included, of course, the support of the Liberals, NDP, and Bloc—supported the reopening, had turned into, I believe, 'the government' (a minority, unless the CBC needs reminding) passing the bill. (Certainly, the emphasis was on 'the government', although, as earlier reported, the support was widespread across all parties.) The last word in the 'report' was given to a critic of the Conservative government, who, in retrospect, was conspicuously absent from the earlier report. 'Unfair, biased: the usual CBC propaganda coverage,' I thought.

I’d like an explanation from the CBC concerning its very conspicuous about-face. In the two hours between the time I heard the 4:00 and 6:00 o’clock news, the story was unchanged. (Except, maybe the CBC had acquired a 'juicy' anti-Conservative quote: 'Rewrite the story!')

So, why was a balanced report, about all parties supporting a motion, replaced by biased, inaccurate coverage? It was PARLIAMENT, not the GOVERNMENT which passed the bill. Yes, comments by the Conservative Minister, Gary Lunn, were included, but the story ended with a broadside against the Conservatives, buttressing the CBC spin that the Conservatives—a MINORITY government, Mr. Carlin—were culprits here.

I’d like to point out, that being so obviously—and transparently—partisan, which the CBC has been for decades, diminishes the CBC’s credibility and integrity tremendously. The CBC’s constant denials of the obvious—most of your critics aren’t stupid, Mr. Carlin—only make the CBC look incredibly defensive and totalitarian.

(I’d also like to ask what the point of your position is re the public: you recently admitted to me an indiscretion on the part of Avi Lewis, where he was not adhering to standard protocol and procedure. I asked what the consequence would be: an on-air admission or apology? I did not receive an answer from you. So, it seems that, even IF the CBC admits a shortcoming, there are no consequences. If there are no consequences, which would require that the CBC adjust its policies and procedures in order to fulfill its mandate, please tell me: just what is the purpose of your office?)”

2) “On the CBC radio 5:00 p.m. news (more like old hat) today [December 14], I heard Elizabeth May—not even an elected Member of Parliament—criticize the Conservative government at the Bali Conference. Now, that’s allowed, but . . . there was no counter argument: no one, with a different point of view—not even a Conservative—was interviewed.

(However, I DID like the part where May accused the Conservatives of convincing the Japanese that they should obstruct 'progress' on the global warming—sic: how about 'climate change'?—file. Who’d have thought that the Canadian Conservative MINORITY government was that powerful?! In my opinion, too bad it’s not true, but just another CBC fiction.)

This 'news' story was altogether unbalanced. There was obviously no attempt at all to present the Canadian public with an alternate viewpoint. Why not?

(This reminds me of the fine children’s story, The Amazing Bone, by William Steig. When the fox wants to eat Pearl, a sumptuous young pig, dressed like Bo-Peep, the amazing bone, which can talk, says to the fox, 'Have you no shame, sir?' I ask the same question of you: rhetorical, of course.)”

I’ve also sent copies to the PM, Gary Lunn, and John Baird.

I encourage everyone here to flood the CBC Ombudsman with complaints, with copies to the PM and the Minister responsible.

Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 14, 2007 5:47 PM

Scott Reid, the Liberal was repeatedly slithering out of this fiasco on Mike Duffy's show. He claimed that 'reporters call up MPs all the time; it's nothing'.

Scott, this situation isn't about reporters calling up MPs to ask 'What's new'. It's about the CBC calling up MPs to ask them to ask specific questions in an inquiry.

Questions with one agenda, to link the current govt and their spectrum policies, somehow, to Mulroney-Schreiber. Not only is this outside the mandate of the inquiry, not only is it false, BUT, no reporter has the right to set the questions for an MP within an inquiry.

Reporters are supposed to report. They have no mandate to conduct an inquiry, and if they did, then they must ask the questions. Not have an MP front for them. The CBC was not elected and has no right to conduct a House Committee.

It's a breach of ethics and moves the CBC into yellow journalism.

Meanwhile, the CBC is saying nothing.

Posted by: ET at December 14, 2007 6:21 PM

Why are other media not picking up the story ?

In Canada, the CBC is a huge elephant. With a $Billion gov't handout ever year, the CBC has a huge advantage over the others ---- even over the other majors, such as CTV.

Wouldn't you also be afraid of pissing-off someone with a $Billion$ head start ?

On top of that --- it seems true that Reuters and Associated Press (AP) control the news, not only in Canada, but world wide as well.

They control what will be news and what will not. When all media carry the same story-line it seems like the truth even when it is not.

Simple as that. Am I wrong ?

Examples;
Bad, bad RCMP officer tasers --- story is in papers and on TV around the world the next day.

Polar bear falls off melting ice berg. All media carry it.

CBC acting like an insurgent ? Nope. If Reuters, AP says no story --- print it and you will have an * beside your organization.

Posted by: ron in kelowna at December 14, 2007 6:33 PM

Sorry Kate...OT but I don't see a "tips" post.
According to CTV.ca heads are rolling in Chalk River Nuclear Plant.
Maybe next week will be CBC's turn

Posted by: bluetech at December 14, 2007 6:38 PM

Blogs are getting to the big boys ??

But the broadcaster says it was an "inappropriate way of going about it and as such inconsistent with our journalistic policies and practices."

Posted by: ron in kelowna at December 14, 2007 6:40 PM

Reference my comment yesterday.......... I guess the CBC and LPC COULD be that unstintingly stupid...

Posted by: Jim at December 14, 2007 6:40 PM

What we need is a $20,000,000 inquiry to look into this.

Posted by: Richard Ball at December 14, 2007 6:46 PM

Another interesting thing, is that the Liberals are backing away from an inquiry. Scott Reid was setting the ground for this, claiming that it's the Conservatives who don't want an inquiry - but, I think the reality is that the Liberals don't want one.

Remember, they and the NDP were screaming for one at the start; then, they and the NDP set up the Ethics committee to review the situation. And, they haven't gotten anywhere in their original agenda: Smear Harper.

But the real Original Agenda, which is Schreibers, has been to keep him out of Germany. Will this be successful?

Posted by: ET at December 14, 2007 6:56 PM

What a waste of tax money the CBC is.

All they have to do is have one unbias political show, and not even a full Conservative political show. Just a Fox News, Hannity and Combs, and I could justify my tax dollars.

Plus the CBC could spin and say, "see we have a conservative point of view, when we discuss politics".

They can have all the far left, nanny state programing they want, after that. Like Don. and Peter

Please, for the love of my Tax dollars. Just give me one F'n Conservative point of view, when you are talking about poltitics(and not a Harper hater from the past. ie. Rick Anderson).

Enough with the gotcha poltics, at least when my f'n tax dollars are involved.

REALITY CHECK: They can't even do that. Instead for my tax doallars, they get in bed with the liberals.

Our tax dollars at work people.


PS, SUGESTION FOR THE CBC: Just give me a Hannity and Combs, Canadian style. That is the most unbiased show, and we need that in Canada. I could then at least justify the CBC working with the liberals.

Just a thought.


Posted by: Canadian at December 14, 2007 6:58 PM

Played right, this could be the CBC's death nell. Oh, I hope so.

I think before that happens, if anything happens, then someone will be made to fall on their sword.

Posted by: Wimpy Canadian at December 14, 2007 7:14 PM

I predict that when he is answering a liberal question, PMSH might just slip in, and who wrote that for you.

Posted by: MaryT at December 14, 2007 7:14 PM

"Meanwhile, the CBC is saying nothing."

That's not true. They've posted a statement that they're investigating it now.

Posted by: Joanne (TB) at December 14, 2007 7:20 PM

After all the coverage yesterday re. Mike Duffy and the questions and the coverage of the S/M inquiry i watched the CBC last night and couldn't believe the supposed coverage. The CBC would have made Hitler's Propaganda Minister look like Mickey Mouse. What the internet has to do is complain to the CRTC, this is supposedly a Crown Corporation which is above the CBC. If the CRTC get enough complaints then maybe they will have the ability to appoint another National News broadcaster and allocate the 1.2 billion (taxpayer)dollars to an independent newscaster that can take the moral highground and broadcast truly UN-BIASED NEWS, not the pap that CBC has been smearing across this country since the Forties.

Posted by: Antenor at December 14, 2007 7:33 PM

Watch for a janitor moving on to new career opportunities.

Posted by: Wimpy Canadian at December 14, 2007 7:36 PM

Hey, why don't we pay our international Kyoto Ponzi Scheme taxes with the CBC's budget ??

Gets rid of the stupid and convinces the other stupid we are "doing our part" & they'll have to STFU.

Win/Win at no net cost

Posted by: Fred at December 14, 2007 7:42 PM

Good idea, Antenor. I've sent my complaint to the CBC Ombudsman. Now I'll register it with the CRTC.

Not that I hold out much hope. They've never much cared about my complaints in the past. Don't seem to care about stopping the interminable faxes I get offering cleaning services, cheap loans and discounted ink cartridges to my home fax number - all of them, creating waste, using my money (paper) and requiring that I replace my ink cartridges earlier than needed.

Posted by: Jan at December 14, 2007 7:48 PM

This is a great example of how sites like Kate's and the blogoshpere in general really help expose this kind of institutional bias. Even 5 years ago these kind of incidents wouldn't have even been remarked on, it would just go into the daily anti-conservative drumbeat from the CBC. I certainly don't expect the CBC to truly turn unbiased, but I'll take the small victories (for now) of them at least looking embarrassed when they're caught doing it!! Keep it up Kate and Stephen Taylor!

Posted by: cynical joe at December 14, 2007 7:51 PM

"The CBC would have made Hitler's Propaganda Minister look like Mickey Mouse."

That is absolutely the one of the most irresponsible statements I've ever read on SDA. If anyone here agrees with that, you're certifiably insane.

But on the other hand, with a massive bureaucracy railed against you, a Liberal dominated senate, a mass media that hates you, a potential Democratic presidency down south, a waning conservative movement internationally, a rise in socialism in South America, and the inability of Harper to crack into majority territory, well, things are looking up for the rest of us, and you're probably right to be paranoid.

Posted by: JohnnyRingo at December 14, 2007 7:56 PM

Really Johnny, judging your postings (both past and present), one would have thought you would appreciate hyperbole!

Posted by: Jan at December 14, 2007 8:03 PM

Second that, cynical joe.

Put their feet to the fire. Destroy Liberal hegemony. Ferret out the bastards.

Posted by: irwin daisy at December 14, 2007 8:07 PM

Steve Janke (stevejanke.com) has some interesting posts up about this exposure of CBC/LPC...uhh, synchronicity, and as usual he asks all the right questions, including:

"Who at the CBC was working with the Liberals?"

"Is that person associated with one of the CBC's on-air personalities or with one of the CBC's news programs?"

"Who at the CBC knew of the connection?"

"What other news events included the collaboration by the CBC and the Liberals?"

"Is the CBC trying to manufacture the news, and guide the direction of the events?" (Okay, we've long known the answer to that one.)

Regarding the CBC's "internal investigation" he asks:

"Should the CBC be investigating itself?"

"What element of the CBC is conducting the investigation? Is it sufficiently independent of the news arm of the CBC?"

He wryly notes that "the Liberals were helping to elevate the CBC from merely a news gathering organization to a quasi-judicial investigative body, but without the troublesome transparency and accountability that normally comes with the job."

For interesting extra info pertaining to CTV's developing coverage and on-air twists be sure to go also to proudtobecanadian.ca

Posted by: EBD at December 14, 2007 8:09 PM

Moonbat ringo,

Wishful thinking. Chavez is on the run. A majority Democrat house is polling worse than the former Republicans (due to your fellow idiot moonbats like Pelosi). America will still be at war, it's unlikely they'll change the government. The Liberals are Dion. Even the Liberals hate Dion. Dion can't relate to, or communicate with 80% of the country. France and Switzerland went Conservative. Blow back is coming in many other European countries. Gore is an exposed liar.

And in the morning, you will still be an idiot.

Posted by: irwin daisy at December 14, 2007 8:19 PM

the ChavezBroadcastingCorps' Keay(PR) said they will be looking into this "so called" unprofessional conduct. And Rodriguez is not taking calls or responding emails.
Is the effen tail wagging the excrement or the shit finally falling? Think of how slackjaw ruled without doing anything.

Posted by: reg dunlop at December 14, 2007 8:24 PM

In the CP story (also a liberal domian) says--

"A Liberal party official denied there was anything untoward, saying the party gets "bombarded" daily with comments and ideas for questions from Canadians and from reporters"

What about the liberal staffer who confimed the story?

Posted by: Canadian at December 14, 2007 8:39 PM

In the CP story (also a liberal domian) says--

"A Liberal party official denied there was anything untoward, saying the party gets "bombarded" daily with comments and ideas for questions from Canadians and from reporters"

What about the liberal staffer who confimed the story?

Posted by: Canadian at December 14, 2007 8:46 PM

Whining to the ombudsman is a dodge...zip will happen...get frikking mean...send in the blue tie lawyers!

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at December 14, 2007 9:11 PM

But Keay said the CBC does "not accept that this is evidence of bias against any particular political party, but rather was something that occurred in the context of trying to determine the specific circumstances of an ongoing political story."

I accept that it does evidence a longstanding bias favoring the LPC. Nice try Keay.

Posted by: Shaken at December 14, 2007 9:17 PM

Comment at Andrew Coyne:

In addition to her Rockliffe mansion I read that Green Party leader Elizabeth May is the proud owner of a Nova Scotia compound. I'm no real estate expert but that's gotta be $1-$1.5 million in property right there.

Pretty impressive for a single mother who waitressed her way through university then took a succession of not-great paying nonprofit sector jobs and now pulls down a cool fifty grand a year. Hell, even I make more than that, and if I asked my bank to finance a Nova Scotia compound they'd tell me to pound sand.

Where did single mother\nonprofit sector employee Elizabeth May get the money and the financing to pay for a Rockliffe mansion and a Nova Scotia compound?

If Harper started buying condos in Banff left and right we'd start asking questions so I think it's only fair that the media investigate this matter thoroughly. After all, $300,000 paid to a long retired politician surely pales in comparison to an active politician and her unexplained multi-million dollar real estate deals, no?

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at December 14, 2007 9:31 PM

I agree with WL. It's time to take the kid gloves off and spit in their eye.

Posted by: irwin daisy at December 14, 2007 9:44 PM

Only in Canada can we have the ethics committee committing the unethical act act of accepting questions from a biased news agenecy (known as the standard for yellow journalism in Canada) and knothing is said about it across the country except in cyberspace.

Posted by: Fiumara at December 14, 2007 9:54 PM

Only in Canada can we have the ethics committee committing the unethical act of accepting questions from a biased news agenecy (known as the standard for yellow journalism in Canada) and knothing is said about it across the country except in cyberspace.

Posted by: Fiumara at December 14, 2007 9:55 PM

Fred has hit the nail on the head. Part of the need for a public inquiry has been the coverage of Muldoons business dealings. Coverage that has been hostile in the past and still is. As PMBM has requested a public inquiry, INCLUDING THE 5TH ESTATE, this could get to be spectacular.

SO is this the first time ?? Are the Liberals declaring this taxpayer funded support as part of their funding ? Does Elections Canada know ? Did they declare the support in the year it was incurred?

How long have the CBC and the Liberals worked hand in hand to defeat a legally elected government ?

I DEMAND a Public Inquiry.

PabloScam, also known as CBC Gate demands answers.

Posted by: Pat at December 14, 2007 10:00 PM

But if we turfed the CBC where would all the boho hippy lefties get their beloved and necessary kinky sex/transgendered/gay/swinging television programming they depend on so much every night on Newsworld? And how about all those filmmakers of said programming who depend on the CBC to purchase their crap (because no one else will). Have pity on them!

The CBC is has morphed into the Liberal Kinky Transgendered Gay Television Network. And as taxpayers, we should not be subsidizing them. Enough already.

Posted by: Soccermom at December 14, 2007 10:17 PM

I really think we deserve better, and think we must continue putting pressure on the CBC. It is okay for Pablo to slander Mr. Mulroney, but did not notice when Mike Duffy asked him directly, did anyone from the CBC contact you and ask you to present questions to Mr. Mulroney, he said definitely NO and said he did not like the Tory Member of that panel slandering him with statements that were not correct... He had stayed up all night and made up his own answers..... Well, that wasn't the case... he outright lied... and I think we deserve to keep the pressure on and demand more answers, not only from him, but also the CBC.... What is going on here... It is okay for the "Fifth Estate" to slander Mr. Mulroney... but don't slander the liberals, the CBC will run you out of the country... This is not right... we have to continue this investigation, if we have to do it ourselves... Let's all write the CBC and demand a more truthful response... and demand the names of the reporters who are contacting the liberal panel members...

Posted by: Hines at December 14, 2007 10:34 PM

I really think we must continue putting pressure on the CBC. It is okay for Pablo to slander Mr. Mulroney, but did not notice when Mike Duffy asked him directly, did anyone from the CBC contact you and ask you to present questions to Mr. Mulroney, he said definitely NO and said he did not like the Tory Member of that panel slandering him with statements that were not correct... He had stayed up all night and made up his own answers..... Well, that wasn't the case... he outright lied... and I think we deserve to keep the pressure on and demand more answers, not only from him, but also the CBC.... It is okay for the "Fifth Estate" to slander Mr. Mulroney... but don't slander the liberals, the CBC will run you out of the country... Let's all write the CBC and demand a more truthful response... and demand the names of the reporters who are contacting the liberal panel members...

Posted by: Hines at December 14, 2007 10:36 PM

I really think we must continue putting pressure on the CBC. It is okay for Pablo to slander Mr. Mulroney, but did not notice when Mike Duffy asked him directly, did anyone from the CBC contact you and ask you to present questions to Mr. Mulroney, he said definitely NO and said he did not like the Tory Member of that panel slandering him with statements that were not correct... He had stayed up all night and made up his own answers..... Well, that wasn't the case... he outright lied... and I think we deserve to keep the pressure on and demand more answers, not only from him, but also the CBC.... It is okay for the "Fifth Estate" to slander Mr. Mulroney... but don't slander the liberals, the CBC will run you out of the country... Let's all write the CBC and demand a more truthful response... and demand the names of the reporters who are contacting the liberal panel members...

Posted by: Hines at December 14, 2007 10:37 PM

The CBC is a cartoon. It is time to tear that thing to pieces....the money would be better spent on MRI's in this country rather than buildings full of Che admirers.

Posted by: John Luft at December 14, 2007 10:38 PM

The CBC seems to be a collection of low life totalitarians that would really, really like to run the country.
Maybe they have, you never know what they have on the liberals that they can actually direct them to ask questions they would like manufacture some news to.
Have they done this before? More likely than not.
The discussion between Ephart and who ever Jean is, is something to behold.
So the CBC dictates the questions, they write them down, what the hell is the difference who wrote the questions down. Could be their grandmother, the point is they were dictated by the CBC.
You really can’t talk about ethics here, you would be insulting ethics.
Seems that there is not much anybody can do, you get that damned voice mail and you can’t talk to no one. You send email, they send it to their spin department and everything goes on as usual. Talking to a brick wall may get results.
The one good thing is that a blog like this will expose them and the more people read blogs for actual happenings the better. The people need to know and be firm in dealing with politicians and their apparent masters in the CBC.
Talking firm, though decent, with knowledge behind it, does get results, first hand experience here.

Posted by: Lev at December 14, 2007 10:46 PM

Kudos to the CBC for launching an investigation into this isolated incident! In my eyes, at least, they have completely rehabilitated themselves as a credible news agent.

I no longer suspect that they have a liberal bias. They have completely regained my unqualified respect.

How utterly irredeemable is the person who suggests that they might not observe themselves with complete honesty and zeal!

The very idea that the task force would simply play cards for two weeks, and then announce that, after an exhaustive, ruthless investigation, has found that the CBC is as without bias as the driven snow is without colour, and -- holy shit! A PIG just flew by my window!

Posted by: Darrell at December 14, 2007 11:00 PM

Too bad the HoC is on break . LACK OF QUESTION PERIOD would have been a riot .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 14, 2007 11:13 PM

I certainly do hope the CPC MPs start referring to Pablo as the Member From The CBC during question period.

Posted by: Stan at December 14, 2007 11:18 PM

.... wonder if they get acting advice as well ..... Ralphie sure has the projecting righteous indignation look down to a TEE !

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 14, 2007 11:25 PM

No mention of the flap on The National tonight.

But see if you can spot any other signs that the CBC is committed to promoting the party of le Petit Green Machine:

A story on the resignation of the head of the AECL: After Liberal Omar Alghabra -- "the government needs to accept responsibility for the national medical crisis that we've had" -- a Greenpeace activist has his say.

A story on climate change. Protesters in polar bear suits; the French environment minister criticizing Canada; environmental activist Steven Guilbeaut, "who accused John Baird of skipping a crucial meeting of ministers" says his bit.

Later, a climate change story: Guy who bought hybrid car in US can't get rebate. "I don't think the minister of transportation specifically on an environmental program should be using an environmental program to dissuade people from..."

Later, a long story/lecture on...climate change. Excerpt: "It's a cold winter night on the University of Toronto campus. Inside, Danny Harvey is speaking to the converted: a familiar group of climate change activists..."

All Armageddon, All The Time, ever since the Conservatives were elected. Why, you'd almost think the Liberal leader is running on an environmental platform, or something...

Posted by: EBD at December 14, 2007 11:34 PM

'The Cellular Spectrum Auction' appeared to be of particular interest of the bearded Lib guy, (CBC's questions?) and tying it to Bernier and Harper was an obvious fishing expedition with nothing to do with Schreiber/ Mulroney / Airbus.
Blatant political sewer tactics obviously meant to move the CBC's agenda in this mess.
Recall Larry Zolf's pronouncements many months ago about the media breaking Harper at election time?
I would say it's well in the works right now with CBC in the forefront.
The RCMP is going to be overhauled, head chopped at the AECL, why not the CBC as well?
Clean out the CBC Augean Stable.

Posted by: Joe Molnar at December 14, 2007 11:40 PM

".. wonder if they get acting advice as well ..... Ralphie sure has the projecting righteous indignation look down to a TEE !"

Would that be Ralphie Goodale you're talking about?
Mr. Huff'n'Puff seems to be going for the Teddy Kennedy look these days.
If so, be careful girls, you might want to take an Aqualung along on any dates.

Posted by: Stan at December 14, 2007 11:44 PM

Would that be Ralphie Goodale you're talking about?

Of course it was .... but now that I think of it HR Puffin'such is more like it .... Ruby can be Wichypoo and Churniak can play flute ( Jimmy ? ), Dion , naturally , being the flute .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 14, 2007 11:59 PM

How much does CBC cost the taxpayer?

Read this and prepare to be shocked and outraged:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Broadcasting_Corporation#Funding

Posted by: Lorraine at December 15, 2007 12:21 AM

We get junk like Little Mosque that promotes hijab wearing as "real Muslim" attire (with tragic results) and wildly biased reporting and programming for:

For the fiscal year 2006, the CBC received a total of $1.53 billion from all revenue sources, including government funding, subscription fees, advertising revenue, and other revenue (e.g. real estate). Expenditures for the year included $616 million for English TV, $402 million for French TV, $126 million for specialty channels, a total of $348 million for radio services in both languages, $88 million for management and technical costs, and $124 million for "amortisation of property and equipment".

Neat eh!!

Posted by: Pat at December 15, 2007 12:43 AM

Heh...a few funny images from people here of a sinister legion at the CBC.

Truth is, most are bearded bald or balding guys, with a hint of wimpiness about them. The stink would be coming from the upper middle and top. Mind you they are all pathetically tarded to the left of course and they behave as though they strode in the elysian fields of academia instead of a broadcasting company. You don't need to shut it down, just set it free by putting it up for sale in the market place. They will adjust or die very quickly.

Is it possible to petition for the privatization of the television network? I would back that.

Posted by: BL@KBIRD at December 15, 2007 12:43 AM

Good one, Soccermom,
Rick Mercer couldn't say it any better!!

Posted by: gellen at December 15, 2007 1:09 AM

Wow, Pat, that's a $270 million shortfall in FY2006 - even with a billion dollars of taxpayer funding. They're sinking faster than the New York Times.

Posted by: Ed Minchau at December 15, 2007 3:17 AM

If there ever is an inquiry into the liberal/cbc connection, I want it to go back to Trudeau's win of the leadership of the liberals. That was the first time the cbc would be using computers and they were bragging how they would have the results first etc. Much later, on a cbc program, a female reporter, whose name I am not sure of so wont use it, talked about how they got the results so fast. First, they wanted PET to win, she admitted that. Computers were preprogrammed with various results. During convention, parties, hospitality suites etc cbc people (very young then) spread out to talk to delegates and told many of them that so and so was dropping out and
going to PET. Others were going to switch votes, and wouldn't you want to be on the winning side.
It was rigged from start to finish, and yes, they were announcing the winner first. I watched that convention. The reporter telling this went on to bigger and better things with the cbc, but never made GG. The program was the Journal, before Barbara Fraum. It must still be in the archives somewhere. Most of the reporters then are still with the cbc and still love PET. What other events have they manipulated, scandals they have initiated by twisting coverage.
The cbc is terrified of a majority for PMSH, these things might see the light of day and many might have to go get a real job.
PMSH warned of where an inquiry could go and did the liberals really want him to have such power.
The liberals and cbc might end up wishing they had encouraged the govt to deport KS asap.
All those complaining about reporting the pymts and paying tax should go to the govt web page and read the info there on taxes, reporting income, etc. Make sure you read the page on voluntarily reporting past income, and being caught not reporting income. Big difference in penalties, interest etc. Brian was never asked if he still has copies of his tax assessments for those years, just if he had his returns. As for them still being on file, remember the numerous times boxes of tax returns have been discovered in warehouses, garbage etc. Remember the stories of discared computers with hard drives still in them. Easy to say Brians records no longer exist.
Finally, phone rev can and ask for copies of your assessments from 1980 to 2006. I recently called for a copy of the 1998 T1, and guess what, it wasn't available. They would have to search for one and photcopy it for me. Still waiting for it.
No one seems upset that KS had bank accounts all over the world, but Brian having money in a SDB in the US needs to be explained. Thousands of cdns have money in the states for various reasons.
With bloggers and 24 hr news the cbc can't manipulate like they did for years.
Hope this doesn't come thru as a double post.

Posted by: MaryT at December 15, 2007 3:54 AM

I do not understand all the shock. I have always thought of the CBC as the proproganda arm of the Liberal Party! Right?

Posted by: Dan F at December 15, 2007 5:20 AM

Going back a ways but when I was phone canvassing for Stockwell Day in Toronto several times the people that I spoke to when I asked if the Reform Party could count on their support responded that they worked for the CBC and would have to vote Liberal. It seemed no different than a teacher saying they always vote NDP or Liberal. It was only later when talking to the other canvassers that we got a "Wait a minute" flash about our supposedly unbiased national newsbroadcaster.

Nothing has changed as even the trolls on SDA still insist the MSM is not Lieberal biased. If Harper can't shut them down he should clean house and watch them hop around in their Birkenstocks in the snow.

Posted by: Dave at December 15, 2007 8:10 AM

The Harper government should reduce the CBC's handout by 25-50% next budget and dare the opposition to defeat them on it. It would put the Liberals in a very difficult defense-of-CBC footing and would only further re-enforce the Liberal/CBC alliance in the voters' minds, thereby deteriorating their collective credibility further.

It would also get at the root causes directly - the structure/philosophy that drives the CBC's piorities and behaviours. Less money means less bandwidth to pursue their agenda. Public dollar reduction would incrementally force CBC management (what an oxymoron that is...) to have to find private dollars or scale itself back. There'd be alot less time, money and tolerance for politicizing.

Yeah, there'd be a hew/cry on CBC service cutbacks. But with the amount of choice in media today, the impact would likely not be widespread. In fact, the impact lessens daily as choice grows.

This type of move on the CBC is long overdue and frankly I don't see much downside for the Harper government in executing this.

Posted by: George in Eastern Ontario at December 15, 2007 8:53 AM

Already the cover up is in full swing...in blanket statements out of CBC exec. offices it appears they are spinning this as the personal actions of a single parliamentary reporter...toss a victim to the wolves to save Mothercorpse.

Crap this is getting all too predictable.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at December 15, 2007 8:54 AM

If they shut down the CBC where will we get our Governor generals, senators, crown corp commissioners and sundry PMO appointments from???

Don't we need a pool of conceited, dogmatic mediocre journalists-cum-partisan ass-kissers to draw from to provide the mortar for Trudeaupia?

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at December 15, 2007 9:12 AM

Pablum Rodriguez is hardly worthy of mention at the best of times but he sure got his ass in a sling this time. He certainly didn't appear to be familiar with what the he was asking Mulroney aside from the fact the questions had nothing to do with this particular committee's mandate. That in itself should raise suspicions as to the source of the questions.

We've been accepting for many years the fact the CBC is an organ of the Liberal Party, it's nothing new. The problem is more pronounced since the Conservatives took power because the inbreds are getting more obviously desperate.

Posted by: Liz J at December 15, 2007 9:23 AM

@Mary T:

That reporter was Barbara Amiel: she 'outed' herself a long time ago. The story's in her early autobiography Confessions.

Posted by: Daniel M. Ryan at December 15, 2007 9:29 AM

George in E.O.
Nice thought george, Problem is though that the CBC would play the cuts in programing card, So the favorites would be in jeopardy. EG: they would annouce that they could not longer afford to purchase Corrie St. (Which has a loyal following in Canada) or Hockey NIC they would pull the Liberal twist & turn outrage & would be throwing blame to Government Clawbacks, which in turn would not be favorable to the PM.
A thought though: Hit them in the pocket book where it hurts the most Revenues after Government Contribution, write to Advertisers that you will not purchase their products if they continue support of CBC, Call your cable provider ask for rebates or ask if the CBC can be pulled from your service, Remember you are paying for it Twice(Taxes & cable provider) so it should be either Free or Just if you wish it.
If this cannot be provided maybe you will consider a different provider, When cable providers get complaints re: a certain Network they start to listen, they do not like to lose out to their competition.

Posted by: bryanr at December 15, 2007 9:36 AM

...When all media carry the same story-line it seems like the truth even when it is not.

---Ron in Kelowna

Exactly!

and that is why this story will be ignored.

The MSM know too well the power they have.

They "under-report" their own liberal bias so the average Joe thinks it is not happening.

Simple and evil.

Posted by: Friend of USA at December 15, 2007 9:47 AM

I wonder what motivated LaPierre?

Was he "mistreated" while he was in the liberal party, and this is sweet revenge?

I'd be curious to know...

Posted by: Friend of USA at December 15, 2007 9:51 AM

Send the communist cbc bastards back to the attics where they started out from, course all these years later we would have to include the closets for this horde of lieberal commies.

Posted by: bartinsky at December 15, 2007 10:18 AM

Instead of cutting funding, they should shift it to the overseas news services. Any shithole Canadian troops are stationed, CBC is there. When the English world (and the French world)is looking for news on Kosovo, Kandahar or Haiti, the wire services should be buying the Canadian coverage... because CBC will be so embedded in the area. Any snot nose journalist wannabe that wants Mansbridge's job has to spend a couple years in Cyprus or wherever. This would impress on the Canadian public the importance of our overseas work, but the journalists produced would promote up to Parliament Press Gallery. They'd be world travelled and not incubated in Toronto, Quebec or Winnipeg. Maybe they'd come back a little more curious about the strange things that slide in Canada. After you watch some kids get trampled by starving people grabbing bags of rice, Greenies protesting in Bali would seem a little less impressive.

I think most Conservative supporters are too quick to want to destroy the CBC. It is obviously a powerful propaganda tool. It can be rebuilt to serve new masters. Need patience. How long can Harper stick around, realistically? CPC will not lose until he's gone.

Not that I'm trying to discourage slamming CBC, maybe rethink destroying it?

Posted by: johnmac at December 15, 2007 11:32 AM

Thanks Daniel, see what I mean about getting info today. I thought it was her but wasn't sure of my memory. Think I will borrow her book from the library. I am positive there are other bits of info out there re cbc manipulation, all it takes is a little nudge and someplace to bring it to the public. Every little tip helps.
Since this story broke I think we will all be watching coverage of QP, news etc more carefully and report suspicious commentary.

Posted by: MaryT at December 15, 2007 12:24 PM

Either CBC has a death wish or is going for broke, literally. The point was made that CBC feared Tory majority, so they are actively working against it, in familiar territory, with the Grits (so the allegations go).

If Harper does get a majority, he will be within his rights to take a good look at CBC. The CBC has proved themselves to be self-interested rather than informative many times before. When the Grits cuts their funding, they reported on themselves for days on end.

The CBC has been reduced to the network that "tells Canadians stories, by people you've never heard of, to nobody watching. If people were watching, advertisers would step forward. Why in this day and age would we subsidize this type of network, with seriously low viewership (except for their "hit" Little Mosque on the poliically correct Prairie - watched it a couple of times to give it a chance, but the story line is so insipid and devoid of any reality whatsoever, that I gave up, as I'm sure many others did).

Posted by: Shamrock at December 15, 2007 12:36 PM

"right now CBCpravda and the liberal party have burning questions on the lawns of Prince George even as we speak" Hot Cross Hedy Fry.

Posted by: cal2 at December 15, 2007 12:46 PM

The truly sad part of the CBC's anti-right bias is that when a lefty-liberal states there is no bias there....they honestly believe it to be true.

I watched the coverage of this witch-hunt equally between the CBC and CTV.I tried very hard to keep an open mind.

What I found was the CBC being overtly biased from their line-ups of pundits skewering Mulroney to the grainy slo-mo shots of the ex-PM(a proven negative ad technique)in the background.

On the other hand,I found the CTV to be quite fair,to the point where almost all their invited talking heads agreed the whole affair was little more than a sham to tar the current day conservatives.

The problem with the CBC's agendized selection of soundbites and guests is that far too many people actually swallow it as a fair assessment of the days events.

When did they stop teaching integrity in journalism school?

Posted by: teddy at December 15, 2007 2:03 PM

Jean LaPierre is far too neutral these days to be a friend of the Liberals. He's really doing a good job as a TV journalist, one of the better ones IMO.

It seems almost like he has an small ax to grind with the Liberals.

Mulroney can't win respect or fair treatment in this country, just as Conrad Black can't get even any sympathy or fair comment from most of the press.

Both of these men contributed substantially to the Country in different ways, however the one fault they have is their politics, they're CONSERVATIVES. No matter what penance they serve, how much they bow down and be humbled and shamed for less than many pay for murder, they can't win.

According to the perfect people who never cheat on the tax man or tell a lie, which apparently is most of the MSM and all Liberal, Dipper and Blochead politicians, they should be hung, drawn and quartered.

IT'S ALL DIRTY, FILTHY, ROTTEN, OUT OF CONTROL POLITICS.
How have we come to this? How can we treat a former Canadian PM or Canadian Icon like Black so disrespectfully for all the world to see?

Posted by: Liz J at December 15, 2007 3:25 PM

An overview of the MSM ignoring the latest CBC scandal with a reminder of an earlier piece about the PPG.

http://blackrod.blogspot.com/2007/12/trust-us-cbc-liberal-collaboration-not.html

Posted by: The Black Rod at December 15, 2007 3:51 PM

George in E.O.

The Harper government should reduce the CBC's handout by 25-50% next budget and dare the opposition to defeat them on it. It would put the Liberals in a very difficult defense-of-CBC footing and would only further re-enforce the Liberal/CBC alliance in the voters' minds, thereby deteriorating their collective credibility further.

I'm afraid that what will happen has already been mentioned that that is that the good programs on CBC will vanish, the sound stage techs., the carpenters, the lighting people and on and on will be let go and the same chattering class will stay till the bitter end.

Reorganizing the the CBC makes sense and to do that would require a serious steam cleaning of the upper floors, and that would be a good thing.

Pat

Posted by: Pat at December 15, 2007 3:55 PM

Watch for the cunning of the CBC. It seemed to me at the last Federal election, with just two weeks to go, CBC seemed to do some mild appraisals of Harper's boys and girls. Certainly this is arguable. I felt that the CBC somehow was hedging their bets. A minority Conservative government had been hinted at by those wretched polls. If, prior to the next election, the trends showed a Harper majority, watch for CBC to deliver moderate observations.

This would soften the Harper government up. I have said before that Harper should speak softly and carry a big stick. The CBC is a snake in the grass, yes, cunning and able to slither away.

Just give them a chance and they will strike and strike hard.

Harper must not be deceived. Many Canadians are sent out into the real world, because of cutbacks. Let the CBC elites taste what they are really worth in the market place

Posted by: Peter at December 15, 2007 5:56 PM
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