Trudeau tweeted: “We are also introducing stronger and more rigorous background checks on gun sales. If you want to buy a gun by law you’ll have to show a license at the point of purchase. Right now that’s not a requirement.”
But, this is the law now, and since the PM is changing existing laws to be more “adequate”, why doesn’t he know this?
Not only should Trudeau know this but he does know this, based on statements he himself made to the Hill Times in 2011 when he said he was a gun owner.
Related – This bill is political theatre.
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but, but, but… justin promised on his twithead page…
“The measures we announced today will help keep
assault weapons and illegal handguns off our streets –
making all of us safer.”
canadian firearms outlets were selling illegal handguns?
seriously? who, besides the cbc, actually believes this?
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nb. a small clarification…
“canadian firearms outlets were selling
illegal handguns?
apparently, only to folks who couldn’t produce
an acquisition/possession license.
good thing pierre-lite closed that loophole.
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“when he said he was a gun owner.”
Did you know that people can actually inherit things instead of having to go to a store and buy them? Yeah, it’s true.
By now requiring all gun sellers to maintain a detailed list of WHO their gun buyers are, WHAT & WHEN they bought it, they bought, the serial numbers, and KEEP THIS DATA FOR 20 YEARS, the government has brought in gun registration, at the expense of gun sellers not at the expense of the government. By outsourcing all of this complicated and costly, pain-in-the-@$$ administrivia they have now created the potential for numerous ‘process crimes’ allowing the feds to charge / try / convict gun sellers for nothing more than a paperwork mistake. MANY current gun sellers (i.e. – individual Cdn Tire franchisees) will now listen to their lawyers (while seeing their insurance rates go up) and will decide to stop selling guns. The Libranos will claim “WE are not responsible for THEIR business decisions.” Watch … within a year of this passing parliament there will be roughly half as many retailers selling guns in Canada.
“This bill is political theatre.” I think that statement could apply to the vast majority of legislation enacted in my lifetime. It certainly applies to everything this government does. Harper’s proroguing Parliament was one of the best thing done in Ottawa in memory.
The entire episode is a bit odd. Remember that the rural Liberal MPs were quite concerned about what the Liberal PMO was proposing, to the point of Trudeau yelling at them. The changes that were announced aren’t really hissy fit worthy for either rural MPs or Trudeau. Is it possible that something changed between the day of the argunent and the gun law change announcement? Was something more controversial dropped?
The biggest change is letting the RCMP make changes to banned weapons. The RCMP’s action during the Alberta floods doesn’t inspire confidence but that gun law change is easily reversed if the police get over-enthusiastic.
“The RCMP watchdog says Mounties improperly took guns from flood-stricken homes in Alberta two years ago — seizures that angered High River residents and fostered mistrust of the national police force.” CBC
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“oz says… people can actually inherit things”
which the executor of the estate is then legally obliged to
deal with under canada’s already draconian firearms regime.
inheritance does not exempt anyone from the existing laws.
or are you saying the members of the “jane-finch fish
& game club” have found a way to beat the system?
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The majority of retailers already keep records. 20 years of data doesn’t take up much room if it is stored electronically. If that customer sells, swaps or has the gun stolen then the retailer has zero responsibility for the accuracy of the data.
Private sales and inherited guns aren’t required to keep records so even if there were fewer retailers, the change/reduction in gun ownership would be very small.
Shallow, emotional, heartstring moment for PM Sockeye. He is keeping all Canadians … “safe”. Awwwww … how WON der FUL of the PM. He really carrrrrres.
Now about those steak knives …
Anyone possessing a thought process already knows that Justin Trudeau is pretty well a Grade A stupid doofus.
However the only thing that approached the banality of Trudeau’s statements are the smug ponderings of Sheila Gunn
Reid. Did she really require 10 dreadful minutes of mind-numbing blathering to tell us something that should have taken thirty seconds:ie: that Justin is a dumbass?
I love Sheila Gunn Reid.
Incredibly, the Trudeau fluffers at CBC missed this!
He must have come through another promise to increase their funding.
So the “Gun Registry” has been off-loaded to the retail market place, and the cost of keeping records will be off-loaded to the gun buying public. Great Kabuki theatre. The previous Liberal Government Gun Registry that cost Canadian Taxpayers somewhere in the neighbourhood of,…. what was that number again between 2 million and 2 billion, who was keeping track? Anyway that Federal Gun Registry was hacked numerous times during its existence, what are the chances of a retail gun registry getting hacked or stolen or copied, and voila a ready made shopping list to be sold at the nearest bar. But it’s going to keep Canadians safe. As far as the RCMP having control of classification, that is going to work out really well.
On another topic how many RCMP front line constables have died or been wounded in the last twenty years with all of the modern gun laws and checks as compared to the number killed or wounded during the twenty year period after WWII. Maybe the Liberal Immigration and Refugee policies of the last forty years have more to do with the increase in gun violence and crime than anything hunters and farmers do.
Here’s the CBC actually doing its job. I’ve noticed more of this in the past few weeks. It seems that even the CBC has realized that the Liberals are lying incompetents.
Liberals’ claim of ‘steady increase’ in gun crime rests on a ‘drastic’ comparison to a low-crime year
The average citizen, hearing how gun crime has soared since 2013, might well conclude that something alarming has been going on.
In fact, it’s “a good deal less.”
Speaking of the cbc, did anyone catch the news where they outed the Liberals for untruthful gun statistics.
“But 2013 does not represent any kind of Canadian norm. Choosing it as a baseline could be seen as an example of what statisticians call “selection bias.”
“They obviously picked the one year where it was lowest, so as to maximize the impact, the one year to make the change look most drastic, essentially,” said Pierre-Jérôme Bergeron, who teaches statistics at the Department of Mathematics and Statistics at the University of Ottawa.
The McGill-trained statistician, who authored a paper called How to Engage in Pseudoscience With Real Data, said it doesn’t look like an honest mistake, either.”
There’s a dig in the article about climate “deniers” but that’s expected because the cbc abd climate alarmists “deny” the existence of lukewarmers.
“are you saying the members of the “jane-finch fish
& game club” have found a way to beat the system?”
Zoolander is not a spring chicken. He is old enough to have inherited a rifle before the FAC regime came into law.
“selection bias.”
That wouldn’t be the reason what charts proving global warming always start with the coldest years in recent history in the 1940s or 1950s?
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“oz tells a porkie… Zoolander is not a spring chicken.
He is old enough to have inherited a rifle before the FAC
regime came into law.”
not so, my cbc-sucking friend…
Justin Pierre James Trudeau was born December 25, 1971 making
him a first grader when Bill C-51 establishing the FAC system
was passed.
an-ti-fa! an-ti-fa!
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Sometimes. Generally they use data starting around 1850, near the end of the little ice age and the beginning of the use of accurate thermometers.
Anyone who believes hair lisp has even held a gun is delusional.
quebekie has a long storied history waterfowling along the St. Lawrence. Perhaps bongo’s old grandpa (he was a Conservative) engaged in the blood sports and left significantly valuable firearms in his estate. These would be family heirlooms. Sooo, maybe he owns firearms by way of inheritance?
Somehow I doubt he grew up shooting gophers out of a pickup.
As for Sheila Gunn Reid… I support the Rebel but don’t follow it. They provide an important voice that is largely stifled in Canada. I can do without the smugness as well.
Russians in 1917 were fairly well armed. What good did that do? When Chekists accompanied with police/Red Army arrived to confiscate guns the rural Russians meekly complied.
Willingness to employ guns to stave off totalitarians is imperative. Docile duck hunters and claybird shooters are more of a problem than a solution.
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“rizwan declares… Docile duck hunters and claybird shooters”…
lot of experience with the gun-owning, hunting, sport shooting set,
huh riz?
ps… isis and the taliban don’t count.
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Maybe so, yet Jr definitely claimed ownership and basic shooting knowledge learned from his father in a news story about 2011. He claimed to have some rifles stored at his cottage somewhere in the Laurentiens. I remember because it sounded then as if he had not stored them properly, also by blurting out this fact, he was enabling criminals to steal them. He was criticized at the time for this breach of law, probably to no effect.
With Trudeau everything is theater, including the job he is doing, he is acting the roll of prime minister, he has a director and stage manager. What prime minister or leader of any country would play dress-up when on a government business trip to another country? What prime minister would take his whole family along and dress them in theatrical attire pertinent to that countrey’s history?
The man is fool and we are being exposed as fools for electing him.
I heard that all you have to say is:
“Give me a gun,
Give me a gun,
Give me a gun.”
And then spit.
And they have to give you a gun.
That’s what my Liberal voting neighbour told me anyway.
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“Anyone who believes hair lisp has even held a
gun is delusional.”
how about someone from the media ask pierre-lite to
produce his possession/acquistion licensee.
and when he can’t, have his rcmp bodyguards affect
an arrest.
now that’d be good tv.
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In response to your questions, this kind of a PM:
http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/pm-warns-senators-on-cannabis-bill/ar-BBKzBd2?li=AAggNb9&ocid=HPCDHP
This Sorry Excuse is a pathological, delusional liar.
“Maybe the Liberal Immigration and Refugee policies of the last forty years have more to do with the increase in gun violence and crime than anything hunters and farmers do.”
I think you have a good point there.
West Canada and East Canada…..hmmm sounds good to me ..
All killed by .22 rifles and shotguns stolen from farm kitchens.
http://ottawasun.com/2017/01/01/ottawa-homicides-in-2016-a-list-of-the-24-we-lost/wcm/fd81476a-56db-407b-9d33-daff3e49730c
So it’s your position that a 1st grader couldn’t possibly have inherited a rifle from his grandfather, is that it, penis-breath?
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“So it’s your position that a 1st grader couldn’t possibly have
inherited a rifle from his grandfather, is that it, penis-breath?”
not legally, no. and why are you constructing all these hypotheticals,
anyway? does justin occupy a special place in your socialist heart?
ps… do you do the homo-erotic thing very often, or should i assume
you really, really like me?
let’s not tell mrs neo, alright?
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Oz, If Turdeau inherited a gun as a child he would noty have been able to possess it legally through the liberal gun registry years without obtaining a PAL and registering his firearm.
So he is either lying or a criminal. You choose.
Don’t you guys think its interesting that this bill doesn’t really -do- anything? Almost as if they realize angering the gun owners would be a bad idea. Particularly given how well the gun registry went for them.
“This bill is political theatre.”
That’s its best feature. Gun owners of Canada should be proud: their insurgency of some 15-20 years ago caused enough pain that today’s majority Liberal government is not interested in another round. This bill isn’t harmless but you can bet that without that remembered pain of long ago gun owners would be getting it in the barrel (even more so than they already do).
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“they realize angering the gun owners would be a bad idea”
in a way, it’s the perfect solution… magic pixie dust that don’t
mean sh!t in the real world, but captures the imagination of all
the marxist childminds that embrace “social justice”.
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http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/will-testament-eng.htm
You can’t inherit a gun unless you have the proper type of licencing,PAL,RPAL,Prohbited PAL,etc.,the guns have to be kept in the possession of the Executor of the estate until the requirements are satisfied.
Every year the B.C. government has a gun amnesty in which they try to convince owners of inherited guns to give them up to the cops,and every year they succeed in stealing about 200 or more guns,usually hunting rifles worth a lot of money,which are “destroyed”,which is a euphemism for “go into the collection of the highest ranking cop in the local detachment”.
“The Canadian way” is,apparently,the USSR way as well, you have property, we take it,you get f*** all in return.
“You can’t inherit a gun unless you have the proper type of licencing”
Canadians didn’t need any kind of firearm licence for an non-automatic rifle prior to 1977.
One could own and possess a non-automatic rifle with a mere minor’s permit if one had been given one prior to the age of majority.
‘political theatre’ mm-hmm.
life imitating ahht.
TURDoo keeps showing his imbecility each day now.
at this rate by next year it will be every 10 minutes.
Canadians DO need a PAL now. Possession of a firearm without a license in Canada, TODAY, is a violation of the Criminal Code. Regardless of how or when the person acquired it.
Canadians DO need a PAL now. Possession of a firearm without a license in Canada, TODAY, is a violation of the Criminal Code. Regardless of how or when the person acquired it.
Canadians DO need a PAL now. Possession of a firearm without a license in Canada, TODAY, is a violation of the Criminal Code. Regardless of how or when the person acquired it.
Wow NEO must be on his meds, that late in day and he still haven’t accused OZ of being UnMe.
Er, I don’t know where you’re getting your info from, but the link you’ve provided is mostly of homicides by stabbings, not shootings, and there’s no mention of what the calibre of the firearm was in the actual shootings tallied, nor is three any mention of where the firearms came from.
Care to try again?
Holy crap. Just when you thought the Laurentian elites have reached a new low, Trudeau opens his yap. Climate Barbie is now officially the smartest tool in the shed.
I made this point back in the alan rock days:
major shortcoming with his bid at the pmo piggybacking on ‘gun legislation’.
a criminal cannot legally buy a firearm in Canuckistan.
that’s crime #1, whatever it was, gave it/xe/zhe/xit/zit a record.
crime #2, acquire the firearm, theft, black mkt, found the t’ing WHATEVER.
what to do wit’ it:
join the target club? show off their vintage collection?
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to commit more friggin crimes !!! crime #3 !!!
NOTHING the LIEberals have coughed up since then properly ADDRESSES that demographic which already shows criminality. NOTHING.
Climate Barbie is now officially the smartest tool in the shed.
Gee, thanks. If that won’t keep me awake all night, nothing will.
Colon, don’t be an ass and try starting a flame war!!!
When you buy a gun the seller will hand write the snow of the gun and your name and license number in his ledger book, just like they always have, and it will cost nothing but a minute of his time and a new ledger when the old one is full. It has been like this forever.